What Kind of Builds Will you create with 7 Heroes?
Maver1ck87
Ok, i'm interested in what people are gonna run for team builds with the upcoming change to 7 hero parties.
I normally run war however as ive maxed that I have decided that im gonna centre on my paragon.
With recent skill changes and the such like I believe this is a rough template for what I am going to run.....
Me, Imbagon:
Merciless, Anthem of flame, SY, Tntf, Ebsoh, Focused anger, FGJ, Aggressive refrain
Dazagon:
Barbed spear, merciless spear, Stunning strike, ballad of resto, aria of resto, mending refrain, Aggr refrain, signet of return
Ineptitude:
Ineptitude, clumsiness, wandering eye, leech signet, P drain, Waste not want not, Aegis, Prot spirit
Panic (or Esurge):
Panic (or esurge in small mob areas), Wastrels demise, Mistrust, Unnatural signet, cry of frustration, p drain, waste not want not, Death pact
Discord 1:
Discord, Rising bile, Animate shambling horror, sols, Death nova, masochism, Dwaynas sorrow, cure hex
Discord 2:
Discord, putrid bile, Animate shambling horror, sols, masochism, mend body and soul, spirit light, death pact
Curser:
Barbs, Mark of pain, Enfeebling blood, Xinraes weapon, Spirit light, Mend body and soul, prot was kaoli, dps
SoS:
SoS, Bloodsong, Splinter weapon, Spirit syphon, Life, Mend body and soul, spirit light, prot was kaoli
so thats what i was thinking....
2 things...
a) feedback or suggestions for build improvements
b) post your own ideas for what ur gonna run on ur 7 heroes and for what classes
c) DO NOT QQ OR JUST SAY WOW I CANT WAIT FOR 7 HEROES <3 xxxxx
or whatever..... thats for another thread so go there pls
Pz
I normally run war however as ive maxed that I have decided that im gonna centre on my paragon.
With recent skill changes and the such like I believe this is a rough template for what I am going to run.....
Me, Imbagon:
Merciless, Anthem of flame, SY, Tntf, Ebsoh, Focused anger, FGJ, Aggressive refrain
Dazagon:
Barbed spear, merciless spear, Stunning strike, ballad of resto, aria of resto, mending refrain, Aggr refrain, signet of return
Ineptitude:
Ineptitude, clumsiness, wandering eye, leech signet, P drain, Waste not want not, Aegis, Prot spirit
Panic (or Esurge):
Panic (or esurge in small mob areas), Wastrels demise, Mistrust, Unnatural signet, cry of frustration, p drain, waste not want not, Death pact
Discord 1:
Discord, Rising bile, Animate shambling horror, sols, Death nova, masochism, Dwaynas sorrow, cure hex
Discord 2:
Discord, putrid bile, Animate shambling horror, sols, masochism, mend body and soul, spirit light, death pact
Curser:
Barbs, Mark of pain, Enfeebling blood, Xinraes weapon, Spirit light, Mend body and soul, prot was kaoli, dps
SoS:
SoS, Bloodsong, Splinter weapon, Spirit syphon, Life, Mend body and soul, spirit light, prot was kaoli
so thats what i was thinking....
2 things...
a) feedback or suggestions for build improvements
b) post your own ideas for what ur gonna run on ur 7 heroes and for what classes
c) DO NOT QQ OR JUST SAY WOW I CANT WAIT FOR 7 HEROES <3 xxxxx
or whatever..... thats for another thread so go there pls
Pz
Xenomortis
Replace the hero paragon or Inep Mes with a SoGM Communing Rit.
Maybe replace Wastrel's Demise or the res on the Panic hero with Prot Spirit too.
I'd look at Bone Minions over one of the hexes on one of your Discord heroes too.
After that I couldn't change anything without dramatically altering the setup.
Maybe replace Wastrel's Demise or the res on the Panic hero with Prot Spirit too.
I'd look at Bone Minions over one of the hexes on one of your Discord heroes too.
After that I couldn't change anything without dramatically altering the setup.
Axel Zinfandel
Are there actually be Seven Hero Parties? The only thing I've heard is there's an outpost that allows you to directly go to mission outposts WITH a seven hero party.
To me this insinuates that you won't be able to go into explorable zones with 7 hero parties, do other quests with seven hero parties... only missions.
Forgive me if this has been discussed elsewhere, I can't find it.
To me this insinuates that you won't be able to go into explorable zones with 7 hero parties, do other quests with seven hero parties... only missions.
Forgive me if this has been discussed elsewhere, I can't find it.
ruk1a
Quote:
Originally Posted by Axel Zinfandel
Are there actually be Seven Hero Parties? The only thing I've heard is there's an outpost that allows you to directly go to mission outposts WITH a seven hero party.
To me this insinuates that you won't be able to go into explorable zones with 7 hero parties, do other quests with seven hero parties... only missions.
Forgive me if this has been discussed elsewhere, I can't find it. lol? http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/w...t10455534.html
To me this insinuates that you won't be able to go into explorable zones with 7 hero parties, do other quests with seven hero parties... only missions.
Forgive me if this has been discussed elsewhere, I can't find it. lol? http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/w...t10455534.html
Kojima
I gave all my heroes a pet when they are playing ranger secondary.... so I am so gonna have an army.....?
Perfected Shadow
With 7 heroes, you can roll through any area extremely easily (barring gay protect npc quests imo).
You may be able to crush mobs so fast that it'd be better to leave out spiritways. (30 second recharge spirits vs destroying mobs in half the time or less?). Oh and don't forget dual fallback.
You may be able to crush mobs so fast that it'd be better to leave out spiritways. (30 second recharge spirits vs destroying mobs in half the time or less?). Oh and don't forget dual fallback.
Chthon
I'll think about it more when it happens. For now my first thought is: I want a fourth necromancer hero. (And none of them would be running discord...)
Rumi The Poet
spiritway + panic + any stupid necros
KingCrab
Be creative! What are some of the things you've been waiting to do? No need to be specific, but lets think about which builds would be really fun to run.
Lysinc
I'll probably make something out of 3 necros, 2 rits, 2 mesmer. If the upcoming hero is a rit, I'll replace 1 of the mesmer with the rit. I'm thinking about fitting an ether renewal protter in there somehow maybe but I think it might be overkill on defense.
lemming
One MM, two n/rt discord heroes, two spirit poopers, two tease mesmers.
cosyfiep
outside of my reg 3 (mm, sos and hb) I would add a nuker, another healer, paragon....last spot to be determined by the class of the character I am playing (as well as if there are duplicates like mm or sos).....as well as the area ......
ashes
3 x Discord, VoR, Inep, 2 x Smiters = Win
Adul
I'm thinking about a combination of an mm, a curser, a spirit spammer, a RoJ monk, a para, an earth ele, and a shutdown mesmer.
Wait, that turned out way less gimmicky than what I was hoping for... 7 heroes is not enough!
Wait, that turned out way less gimmicky than what I was hoping for... 7 heroes is not enough!
Mr. Undisclosed
Umm...I'll just do what I'm sure everyone else will. I'll mix and mash sabway with other hero builds in the meta section of PvX
Edit: Basically mesmers, rits, and necros rofl
Edit: Basically mesmers, rits, and necros rofl
Charlie Dayman
My current three heroes I normally use are a party wide AR Paragon, AoL MM, and an Orders Blood Necro/SoS Rit (depending on the area I'm in). For the rest I'm thinking an AoE Ele, your standard dedicated healer, a Prot monk for single target damage reduction and hex removal, and a Lyssa's Aura Mesmer for anti-melee and caster hate. For the last role, I'd probably fill it with a fun hero like Jora, Koss, MOX, etc. just to have them by my side bludgeoning things to death.
UnChosen
3 Discord Necros, 2 Spirit Spammer Rits, 1 ER Prot, 1 Signet Mes (Specifically for heavy E-denial / Anti-casters areas), and me as a monk doing whatever I want.
Or a team of me and 2 heroes as sin dagger spam and 2 WE wars, 1 ER prot, 1 N/Rt Heal / Splinter, 1 ER order / melee buff curses, 1 ROJ smiter with melee buffs, and 1 Signet Mes.
Or 3 Mes + 3 N/Me + 1 N/Rt Heal full lockdown.
Or Neo-Barrage pet with minions, rit spirits, multiple pets, a few ranger spirits, PvE summons, ebon vanguard assassin, and item summons all on the same screen XD
OMFG, so many OP possibilities.
Can I have 600/Smite and the old CoP back now? 7 Heroes H/h puts those to such shame, Guild Wars should be renamed Automatic Wars.
Or a team of me and 2 heroes as sin dagger spam and 2 WE wars, 1 ER prot, 1 N/Rt Heal / Splinter, 1 ER order / melee buff curses, 1 ROJ smiter with melee buffs, and 1 Signet Mes.
Or 3 Mes + 3 N/Me + 1 N/Rt Heal full lockdown.
Or Neo-Barrage pet with minions, rit spirits, multiple pets, a few ranger spirits, PvE summons, ebon vanguard assassin, and item summons all on the same screen XD
OMFG, so many OP possibilities.
Can I have 600/Smite and the old CoP back now? 7 Heroes H/h puts those to such shame, Guild Wars should be renamed Automatic Wars.
Necromas
For my rit character:
Rt/- Spirit Spammer with GDW (player)
Beastly offense with spirits and spirit siphon allows spamming of GDW on recharge. Spirits can also be very useful to body block.
N/Rt Healer with a dip in curses
N/Rt Healer with a dip in blood magic
N/Mo MM with hex removal
Infinite energy, good healing and prot, offensive/defensive support with curses and minions.
E/Me SF ele with interrupts
E/Me SF ele with interrupts
Cracked armor (can be easily provided by the necros) helps a lot with the fire damage, burning certainly helps, and they can do a lot of interrupting in between castings of SF.
P/- Commandagon
Buffage. "They're on Fire!" combos with the SF eles, anthems affect spirits, and "Go for the Eyes!" affects minions.
?/?
Some physical hero with a pet so with the commandagon that makes 3 allies to maintain GDW on.
For my necro main it'd be similar but I'd be a barbs/MoP caller instead of a spirit spammer, get rid of the eles, and have four physical heroes with pets (at least one of them covering the commandagon role too) for optimum triggering of barbs/MoP. Maybe take out one of the physicals for an SoS rit since spirit spam is just so OP.
Or for animal lovers....
Player with pet
Mo/R with pet & phys support
Mo/R with pet & phys support
Rt/R with pet & phys support
P/R with pet & phys support
3x R/- Beastmasters
Rt/- Spirit Spammer with GDW (player)
Beastly offense with spirits and spirit siphon allows spamming of GDW on recharge. Spirits can also be very useful to body block.
N/Rt Healer with a dip in curses
N/Rt Healer with a dip in blood magic
N/Mo MM with hex removal
Infinite energy, good healing and prot, offensive/defensive support with curses and minions.
E/Me SF ele with interrupts
E/Me SF ele with interrupts
Cracked armor (can be easily provided by the necros) helps a lot with the fire damage, burning certainly helps, and they can do a lot of interrupting in between castings of SF.
P/- Commandagon
Buffage. "They're on Fire!" combos with the SF eles, anthems affect spirits, and "Go for the Eyes!" affects minions.
?/?
Some physical hero with a pet so with the commandagon that makes 3 allies to maintain GDW on.
For my necro main it'd be similar but I'd be a barbs/MoP caller instead of a spirit spammer, get rid of the eles, and have four physical heroes with pets (at least one of them covering the commandagon role too) for optimum triggering of barbs/MoP. Maybe take out one of the physicals for an SoS rit since spirit spam is just so OP.
Or for animal lovers....
Player with pet
Mo/R with pet & phys support
Mo/R with pet & phys support
Rt/R with pet & phys support
P/R with pet & phys support
3x R/- Beastmasters
Dzjudz
- Spirit Rit
- MM Necro
- ER Ele
- Smiter Monk
- Mesmer
- Necro
- Necro
Now where is the update for 7 heroes of each profession? 7x necro hero anyone?
- MM Necro
- ER Ele
- Smiter Monk
- Mesmer
- Necro
- Necro
Now where is the update for 7 heroes of each profession? 7x necro hero anyone?
Sharkinu
3 MM necros, 2 spirit rits, 2 monks.
all with pets
ZERG RUSH!!!
all with pets
ZERG RUSH!!!
Apok
ima have them all take interrupts
3 rangers
2 mesmers
2 whatevers
56 interrupts in all
and i win pve
right?
3 rangers
2 mesmers
2 whatevers
56 interrupts in all
and i win pve
right?
Mr. Undisclosed
ooh that neo barrage pet idea sounds interesting.
aspi
I'm gonna try a full paragon team, since I read a nice team build on this forum and its one of the profession I havent gotten very far with. Probably some splinter/spirit rits but that means I have to finish nightfall first with my para. Fire ele to make sure they are on fire.
Luminarus
Minion Master, SoGM Necro with Order of Pain, SS Necro with Phys support, Psychic Instability Mesmer, RoJ Monk, SoS Rit, UA Monk and myself as a melee to blow s#!t up!
Karate Jesus
Probably some stupid crap. I'm not very creative.
I'll probably just give 7 heroes Pdrain and Chaos storm and say "GG" and afk.
I'll probably just give 7 heroes Pdrain and Chaos storm and say "GG" and afk.
Adul
Ayuhmii Shanbwa
wow, alot will use pvx and the same builds others do
as for me, i will use discord (3 necro) as always, but i will try stuff
i will for example also try to make a good blood magic necro
what builds i will "create" are things like paragon assistance (especially song of concentration will do)
then mesmer, i have panic and psychic instability mesmers atm
also my rits have spiritway equipped, however, this will change, i think into the build i made for my own
my eles will be Savannah Heat (fire), air magic with blinding surge, earth magic with unsteady ground and water ele with shatterstone
i will use 3 of these, and will try to perfect them
warriors will be hammer and sword/axe, as i will use 2 at a time if i use them
assassin heroes are not my kind of thing, so i will try to make good ones later
dervish heroes..... well they got builds and will keep those, lol
monks will be 2 (ogden and tahlkora) healing/protection, and dunkoro will be smiting (holy dmg)
rangers will be pet,condition,interrupt, later i'll try 3 beastmasters, which will sync with each other
and i will make beastmasters out of 7 heroes, for fun AND to see if i can make it effective
i will first make a nice team for rotscale, as that will be my 1st test with 7 heroes, and wont rest til i got him on HM
i even kept his z bounty for this
as you see, i have plenty ideas, and some may have the elite they use on pvx but except for Savannah Heat, i made everything by myself
later on i will try something unique (i think), which is...... hero builds without an elite !!
well, can always try, and with the space i'll have, i can do it on my own tempo
will also make different builds which sync, like mesmer and ele, for example... still gotta find out how, but i'll do that once its here
until then, i stay like this, i probably will come up with the craziest ideas once i'm busy with 7 heroes... or 5 for kryta and maguuma jungle
maybe i'll even try to make a 5 hero team, so that i can do alot with 2 spaces free, or rather 6 heroes, as i like to try to make a team which will be very good, so that i can take even some of the worst players, who knows
well, enough ideas, and will get much more once its here
as for me, i will use discord (3 necro) as always, but i will try stuff
i will for example also try to make a good blood magic necro
what builds i will "create" are things like paragon assistance (especially song of concentration will do)
then mesmer, i have panic and psychic instability mesmers atm
also my rits have spiritway equipped, however, this will change, i think into the build i made for my own
my eles will be Savannah Heat (fire), air magic with blinding surge, earth magic with unsteady ground and water ele with shatterstone
i will use 3 of these, and will try to perfect them
warriors will be hammer and sword/axe, as i will use 2 at a time if i use them
assassin heroes are not my kind of thing, so i will try to make good ones later
dervish heroes..... well they got builds and will keep those, lol
monks will be 2 (ogden and tahlkora) healing/protection, and dunkoro will be smiting (holy dmg)
rangers will be pet,condition,interrupt, later i'll try 3 beastmasters, which will sync with each other
and i will make beastmasters out of 7 heroes, for fun AND to see if i can make it effective
i will first make a nice team for rotscale, as that will be my 1st test with 7 heroes, and wont rest til i got him on HM
i even kept his z bounty for this
as you see, i have plenty ideas, and some may have the elite they use on pvx but except for Savannah Heat, i made everything by myself
later on i will try something unique (i think), which is...... hero builds without an elite !!
well, can always try, and with the space i'll have, i can do it on my own tempo
will also make different builds which sync, like mesmer and ele, for example... still gotta find out how, but i'll do that once its here
until then, i stay like this, i probably will come up with the craziest ideas once i'm busy with 7 heroes... or 5 for kryta and maguuma jungle
maybe i'll even try to make a 5 hero team, so that i can do alot with 2 spaces free, or rather 6 heroes, as i like to try to make a team which will be very good, so that i can take even some of the worst players, who knows
well, enough ideas, and will get much more once its here
Xsiriss
Well unlike everyone else apparently I'm gonna try lots of different stuff, trying to incorporate a paragon or two and maybe make a decent physway.
Iuris
Well, first Idea I get would be N/Rt healer, SoS spammer, Soul twisting protective spirit spammer, Jagged bones minion master, SS/Barbs/Mark of pain physical support, Panic or Tease mesmer, Tease or Hybrid Heal-Prot monk.
Or possibly something else... there are many things that could be done. Too bad we've only got 2 mesmer heroes, it'd be interesting to see a whole group of them with cry of frustration and other damaging interrupts...
Or possibly something else... there are many things that could be done. Too bad we've only got 2 mesmer heroes, it'd be interesting to see a whole group of them with cry of frustration and other damaging interrupts...
distilledwill
Probably lots of different stuff, but ultimately I reckon my most effective team will be:
SoS Pooper
ST Pooper
AoTL MM
Discord Healer
Discord Curser/Tease Mesmer
Panic Mesmer
ER Infuser
SoS Pooper
ST Pooper
AoTL MM
Discord Healer
Discord Curser/Tease Mesmer
Panic Mesmer
ER Infuser
Krill
I might play some general PvE now that it can be done w/o people or gimped henchmen. Was thinking about some SoH buffed RaO's or HB wars.
Need moar necro heroes =/
Need moar necro heroes =/
distilledwill
Oh Oh! Or the following:
3 Barrage Pet heroes
SoS Spirit Pooper with Splinter and AR
N/A assassin's promise with enchant removal, mark of pain, enfeebling blood and weaken armour
AotL MM
Healers Boon Monk
3 Barrage Pet heroes
SoS Spirit Pooper with Splinter and AR
N/A assassin's promise with enchant removal, mark of pain, enfeebling blood and weaken armour
AotL MM
Healers Boon Monk
Hells Fury
I daydream of this day.
Here it goes :
Me - my generic W/D scythe build
N/Mo -Icy Veins melee pump smiter support
N/mo - standard jagged minion bomber /w prot spirit and hex removal
N/rt - standard Xinrae healer
P/W - melee pump fall back support
Rt/mo standard SoS with splinter and some hex removal
Me/E - Echo Panic or some tease domination hybrid (depending on mob)
and depending on the area :
E/mo infuser OR another rupt mes OR Rt/N mm OR another support Para
I also want to try fun builds like 6 Searing flames with ancestor rage (using 3 eles, 3 necros and a monk.
Or full party discord (using other caster class to cast discord)
Here it goes :
Me - my generic W/D scythe build
N/Mo -Icy Veins melee pump smiter support
N/mo - standard jagged minion bomber /w prot spirit and hex removal
N/rt - standard Xinrae healer
P/W - melee pump fall back support
Rt/mo standard SoS with splinter and some hex removal
Me/E - Echo Panic or some tease domination hybrid (depending on mob)
and depending on the area :
E/mo infuser OR another rupt mes OR Rt/N mm OR another support Para
I also want to try fun builds like 6 Searing flames with ancestor rage (using 3 eles, 3 necros and a monk.
Or full party discord (using other caster class to cast discord)
distilledwill
Wait, wait, I have another:
N/Me AotL with Cry of Frustration and other Mes stuff
N/Mo AotL with Prot Spirit/Aegis
N/Mo AotL with Hex removal/Aegis
Rt/N AotL with Channeling Support
Rt/N AotL with Restoration
Me/N Tease with Curses support (enfeebling blood etc)
E/Mo Infuser
Minioooooooon aaaaaarrrmmmmyyy!
N/Me AotL with Cry of Frustration and other Mes stuff
N/Mo AotL with Prot Spirit/Aegis
N/Mo AotL with Hex removal/Aegis
Rt/N AotL with Channeling Support
Rt/N AotL with Restoration
Me/N Tease with Curses support (enfeebling blood etc)
E/Mo Infuser
Minioooooooon aaaaaarrrmmmmyyy!
NerfHerder
Casters:
-2 RoJ Monks
-2 Mesmers(PI and E-surge)
-2 Rts(SoS/Resto and Communing)
-Jagged bones prot.
Melee:
-One or Two RoJ Monks(SoH/JI)
-SoS/Resto with Splinter
-ER Prot
-ER Orders
-Command Paragon
-One or Two more melee(same profession as character)
Paragon(Imba):
-Motigon Paragon
-Command Paragon
-SoS/Resto with Splinter
-ER Orders
-2 Warriors(WE and Earthshaker)
-Another Caster/Physical
Ranger(Barrage Pet with ESoH):
-3 Barrage Pet Rangers
-ER Orders
-SoS/Resto with Splinter
-N/Rt Healer with Splinter
-Command Paragon
I'm glad to see alot of other players(myself included) are interested in reviving Barrage Pet.
All of them will change according to situation, but thats the basic idea. I'll probably get some better ideas from this forum and PvX. I got my work cut out for me to rune and weaponize all these heros on 10 professions, time to stimulate the GW economy!
-2 RoJ Monks
-2 Mesmers(PI and E-surge)
-2 Rts(SoS/Resto and Communing)
-Jagged bones prot.
Melee:
-One or Two RoJ Monks(SoH/JI)
-SoS/Resto with Splinter
-ER Prot
-ER Orders
-Command Paragon
-One or Two more melee(same profession as character)
Paragon(Imba):
-Motigon Paragon
-Command Paragon
-SoS/Resto with Splinter
-ER Orders
-2 Warriors(WE and Earthshaker)
-Another Caster/Physical
Ranger(Barrage Pet with ESoH):
-3 Barrage Pet Rangers
-ER Orders
-SoS/Resto with Splinter
-N/Rt Healer with Splinter
-Command Paragon
I'm glad to see alot of other players(myself included) are interested in reviving Barrage Pet.
All of them will change according to situation, but thats the basic idea. I'll probably get some better ideas from this forum and PvX. I got my work cut out for me to rune and weaponize all these heros on 10 professions, time to stimulate the GW economy!
Snorph
With the 7 heroes comming, will this cause ecto prices to go down and plunder?
joey20
I'll defo go FLESHGOLEM-WAY! YEAH BABY!
GrimmNinja
discord or sabs+Rojway=win
Xiner
If this would happen to GW this would be the best update ever IMO xD! Myself I usually play a necromancer, so caster.
- N/Rt SoLS Healer
- N/Rt SoLS Healer
- N/* Minion bomber (and maybe some prot spells)
- Rt/* SoS Spiritspammer (maybe some resto spells)
- Rt/* SoGM/ST Spiritspammer
- Me/* Panic/Psychic Instability
- Depends on area: Ele-nuker, Melee, RoJ, etc.
Anyways I really wish ANet does this update. xD In lots of cases much more helpful than those henchies.
@Above comments: is this update coming? Anyways can't find anything about it on GW Wiki, so I assume it's not. ^^ Would be great if it is.
EDIT: Found it on Guru already!
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/w...t10455534.html
It's real! I hope it's fast. Anyways, why isn't it announced on the wiki yet?
- N/Rt SoLS Healer
- N/Rt SoLS Healer
- N/* Minion bomber (and maybe some prot spells)
- Rt/* SoS Spiritspammer (maybe some resto spells)
- Rt/* SoGM/ST Spiritspammer
- Me/* Panic/Psychic Instability
- Depends on area: Ele-nuker, Melee, RoJ, etc.
Anyways I really wish ANet does this update. xD In lots of cases much more helpful than those henchies.
@Above comments: is this update coming? Anyways can't find anything about it on GW Wiki, so I assume it's not. ^^ Would be great if it is.
EDIT: Found it on Guru already!
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/w...t10455534.html
It's real! I hope it's fast. Anyways, why isn't it announced on the wiki yet?