Ok, so its time to talk about staff skins. Lets work together here and try and come up with a rarity list of sorts. We all know the more rare staves are the Canthan Dragon Staff, Bo Staff, and the Platinum Staff. There are a few a tier lower like Celestial, Forbidden, Zodiac, and Ghostly. I want to also touch on some other not well known skins. There are many skins that drop commonly in white or blue that are actually quite rare to find perfect gold versions other than those listed above.
*Addition* We are going to put the staffs into tiers of rarity.
TIER 5 Rarity - Very Rare
Dragon
Bo
Platinum
Pre Nerf 20/20 or 20/10 [Example to be added]
Post Nerf Req 8 20/20 or 20/10 or ANY Mod [example to be added]
TIER 4 Rarity - Rare
Outcast
Forbidden
Cockatrice
Plagueborn
Ghostly
Celestial
Zodiac
TIER 3 Rarity - Semi Rare
Raven
Amber
Jade
Shadow
Jeweled - Twin Serpeant
Obsidian Earth
Dark Tendril
Holy Branch
Divine
TIER 2 Rarity - Un Common
Bone Dragon
Chrysocola
Astral
Cobalt
Crystal Flame
Embercrest
Ancient Moss
Icicle
Insectoid
Moldavite
Onyx
Suntouched
Turquoise
Goldhorn
Red Asuraline
Ghostly - Inscribable
Zodiac - Inscribable
TIER 1 Rarity - Common
All Inscribable Skins NOT Designated to an Dungeon End Chest
Platinum - Inscribable
Holy Branch - Inscribable
Jeweled - Twin Serpeant - Inscribable
Divine - Inscribable
Dead
Holy
Any Staff Attainable by Crafting or Quest Completion
Tormented
Oppressor's
Destroyer
Asuran
Charrslayer
Norn
Undead
Charr
Mursaat
Tengu
Lotus
Raven - Craftable
Gemstone
Candy Cane
Rarity - Staff Skins
Cleavage
Cleavage
I recently got a 20/10 Air Raven staff and cant remember over the years having seen many nice raven staves. They are not very well known and the demand is low but how rare is this staff really ?
I also just got a 20/20 Canthan Air staff. I dont remember seeing many of that particular skin as well. How many of those are out there ?
Feel free to share some of your skins and try and group them together rather than mixed.
I also just got a 20/20 Canthan Air staff. I dont remember seeing many of that particular skin as well. How many of those are out there ?
Feel free to share some of your skins and try and group them together rather than mixed.
system.fan
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I also just got a 20/20 Canthan Air staff. I dont remember seeing many of that particular skin as well. How many of those are out there ?
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What I'd rly like to see is....
Any Req Dualmod prenerfed or Any Req 20/20 Noninscr Postnerf...
Orrish/Obsidian Earth Staff =)
didnt see many of those last days
greetz
lishi
Plagueborn staff are not exactly rare but they do come in all variety and attribute.
Xx Citrus Spike Xx
I got a 20/20 high req illusion jewelled staff (twin dragon), i believe they don`t drop much. Dropped about 2 weeks ago when i was in tyria.
Cleavage
Yes, Twin Dragon Illusion is a rarer skin.
Plagueborn are semi rare. More towards the middle.
Plagueborn are semi rare. More towards the middle.
Pleikki
Double dragon aint that rare Imo, getting loads while chesting in Cantha
Raven Staff, well its kinda rare now as it drops alot from shiverpeaks which noneone rly plays/farms anymore, but also its real unwanted skin..
For staffs. Rarity for canthans goes imo: Bo>plat>dragon>outcast>celestial>forbidden>cockrat rice>plagueborn>jade/Amber
I didnt bother add Zodiac & few like divine staff, Dark tendril, Winged staff etc.
Raven Staff, well its kinda rare now as it drops alot from shiverpeaks which noneone rly plays/farms anymore, but also its real unwanted skin..
For staffs. Rarity for canthans goes imo: Bo>plat>dragon>outcast>celestial>forbidden>cockrat rice>plagueborn>jade/Amber
I didnt bother add Zodiac & few like divine staff, Dark tendril, Winged staff etc.
Cleavage
I will have to disagree with you on the order. Dragon Staff is by far the rarest staff skin in the game. Platinum may possibly be more rare than Bo as well.
I really like the Divine Staff. Great skin and fairly rare as well.
I said Twin Dragon is a rarer skin but of course thats meant with 20/20 as the mods
I really like the Divine Staff. Great skin and fairly rare as well.
I said Twin Dragon is a rarer skin but of course thats meant with 20/20 as the mods
Pleikki
Well What i said is my own exprience about em.. From chesting 13k chests in cantha and farming alot etc ive had 1 gold bo staff, maybe 10-20 plat staffs and 50+ dragons
lishi
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Yes, Twin Dragon Illusion is a rarer skin.
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At least i know that i sold one on guru after few bumps for much less.
animal fighter
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Originally Posted by Pleikki
Well What i said is my own exprience about em.. From chesting 13k chests in cantha and farming alot etc ive had 1 gold bo staff, maybe 10-20 plat staffs and 50+ dragons
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18 gold bo staves
1 gold dragon staff
but that could just be my bad luck. I think dragon is more rare though. I have many less chests opened than you. about 2400 in cantha, and not many in dragon staff areas.
Cleavage
Well he is just taking a piss at me thats all. I have gotten Bo at a ratio of 6:1 vs Dragon and thats even while farming Dragon's. I may as well claim ive gotten 10,000 Gold Max 20/20 Bo Staves but only 1 Dragon if I wanted to sound silly as well. 50:1 your sir are silly.
tghoodoo
so i do think u forgot a very important skin on the "rare" listing... that being Outcast staffs. thank u Pleikki for bringing them up.
Pleikki
Well Thats the truth Cleave lol. Ive had hundreds Purple bo staffs sure, but only one gold ever
LicensedLuny
I'll also cast a vote to add Outcast to the list. Nice gold versions are probably worthy of being at least on your second tier with Forbiddens.
And I'll second system.fan's request to see a sexy 20/20 Obsidian Earth Staff! I love those res-shire staffs.
Since I live to mess with Cleav
I'll slightly derail his topic here and ask if anyone has (or has pics of) nicely dual mod inherent offhand skins that reappeared in NF. I'm thinking of things like Stone and Wooden Chakrams, Aureate Chalices and the claw Grim Cestas. (No, those were not new skins introduced in NF. They've always been a possible drop in Prophecies, just like the "eye" skin Flame Artifacts and the obsidian skin Earth Staff.)
And I'll second system.fan's request to see a sexy 20/20 Obsidian Earth Staff! I love those res-shire staffs.
Since I live to mess with Cleav
I'll slightly derail his topic here and ask if anyone has (or has pics of) nicely dual mod inherent offhand skins that reappeared in NF. I'm thinking of things like Stone and Wooden Chakrams, Aureate Chalices and the claw Grim Cestas. (No, those were not new skins introduced in NF. They've always been a possible drop in Prophecies, just like the "eye" skin Flame Artifacts and the obsidian skin Earth Staff.)
obastable
My 2 cents on the matter ...
I've had two "Orrish" earth staff drop in 5+ years. They were both 10/10 global (sold well over 4 years ago).
I've had two gold Bo staves (lots of grapes). Best one was 20 all/9 all r9 divine (still have it) & the other was utter poop.
I've had 3 gold Outcast staves and they were all crap ... r13 reduce disease, poison, and one had no mod.
I've had maybe 8 of the Mursaat Jeweled staves drop for me, all from chests in Whitmans Folly. Today yielded the latest, which was r12 20/19.
Never had a Platinum staff drop for me, ever, but for me those are kinda like Black Dyes ... which next to the Plat staff is (for me) the rarest drop in the game (1!)
I've had two "Orrish" earth staff drop in 5+ years. They were both 10/10 global (sold well over 4 years ago).
I've had two gold Bo staves (lots of grapes). Best one was 20 all/9 all r9 divine (still have it) & the other was utter poop.
I've had 3 gold Outcast staves and they were all crap ... r13 reduce disease, poison, and one had no mod.
I've had maybe 8 of the Mursaat Jeweled staves drop for me, all from chests in Whitmans Folly. Today yielded the latest, which was r12 20/19.
Never had a Platinum staff drop for me, ever, but for me those are kinda like Black Dyes ... which next to the Plat staff is (for me) the rarest drop in the game (1!)
Cleavage
Yes, I agree Outcast would be a tier 4 rarity. I think I will start to separate the staves into tiers. Instead of arguing which is the rarest or if the one you like is rarer than the next we can just chime in on which tier it belongs.
op is a work in progress
op is a work in progress
Frozen Ele
With the pre-nerf staves, I'm assuming 10/20 would be in tier 5 (what about 10/10s)? Are nerfed skins (like the tyrian/dead-skinned water and fire staves) and nerfed attribtues (restoration zodiac, celestial, etc.) included in the tier ranking?
LicensedLuny
Well, off the top of my head, I'd say Evil Eye Staff and the Canthan-skin varieties of Ele staffs should be on the list somewhere.
What is the point of this list? Is it just a general list of skins you don't see very often, or is the idea more to help give folks a little head's up to avoid selling something for 10k or less that might be far more valuable? If the latter, I suspect you'll need to include better details about what kind of stats they need. For example, a Jade Staff with inherent blind reduction is probably merch food while an inherent matched 20/20 Bone Staff is probably not. A core-skin Air Staff with inherent 20/10 is almost merch food while an inherent 20/10 Forbidden is probably not.
If something like that is the final goal, you may need more of a table format than just a list.
Oh, and it would be so much better in bullet lists!
What is the point of this list? Is it just a general list of skins you don't see very often, or is the idea more to help give folks a little head's up to avoid selling something for 10k or less that might be far more valuable? If the latter, I suspect you'll need to include better details about what kind of stats they need. For example, a Jade Staff with inherent blind reduction is probably merch food while an inherent matched 20/20 Bone Staff is probably not. A core-skin Air Staff with inherent 20/10 is almost merch food while an inherent 20/10 Forbidden is probably not.
If something like that is the final goal, you may need more of a table format than just a list.
Oh, and it would be so much better in bullet lists!
Cleavage
No I didnt have values as an interest for this thread. Obviously since Bone dragon are in demand and have a value while not being rare. 20/20 & 20/10 are the only mods of value so thats what the list is meant to reflect. Sure some 20/19 mods are decent but you can gauge that off the list by using common sense. I do plan on adding all staff skins to the list but after an hour or so I needed a break.
N E D M
how common is the crytal skin earth staff? i have not seen many good gold ones...
Pleikki
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while an inherent 20/10 Forbidden is probably not.
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Cleavage
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Id merch that one also tbh, lol had few of those r9 which hasnt managed sell for 5k
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And maybe this thread will help you get what they are worth. This is to train the lemmings and make them realize Bone Dragon Staff's are crap and everyone has one, why not own a rare staff and be different.
Avatar Exico
GoK seems to drop those Obsidian Staves. Iv got one from their before. Bone Dragon Staffs are crap why get something that ugly when could spend or farm for Dragon Staff that is alot rarer and looks alot nicer too.
Xx Citrus Spike Xx
I`m sorry for my newbness on earth staffs but i have no idea what a orrish or obsidain looks like.
Could someone show me a picture of these :/
Edit: I need to open my eyes You got pics up. Please excuse my stupidity :/
Could someone show me a picture of these :/
Edit: I need to open my eyes You got pics up. Please excuse my stupidity :/
Rushin Roulette
It seems like all super rare staff skins come from Factions. Are there no rare Tyrian inherant skins to add to that list? or are they all so common that no one bothers to add them to any list?
The first Staff that can drop in Tyria I can see is in that list is the Raven Staff and Shadow Staff (second being core and not Tyrian core).
EDIT: The OP post links need to be fixed. The Shadow Staff tag links to the Destroyer staff in Wiki.
The first Staff that can drop in Tyria I can see is in that list is the Raven Staff and Shadow Staff (second being core and not Tyrian core).
EDIT: The OP post links need to be fixed. The Shadow Staff tag links to the Destroyer staff in Wiki.
Darcy
Where would Fuchsia staffs fall in the ranking? I don't see many of those. Or are you just doing non-inscription ones?
Xenomortis
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Hulen_Hairyback
He crafts Raven Staves. They won't be gold, but neither are the Asuran, Norn or Charr staves when made from the crafters (and hence those three are impossible to get in gold).
He crafts Raven Staves. They won't be gold, but neither are the Asuran, Norn or Charr staves when made from the crafters (and hence those three are impossible to get in gold).
mighty xxl
The link for the Shadow Staff in the first post is wrong, you put the link to the Destroyer staff.
YornStar
Why not do this kind of thread for other weapons? (Shields, Axes, Wands, etc)
Cleavage
Shadow Staff link fixed. Thanks for noting.
Darcy the Fushia staff would fall under Tier 1 Common. Some common staffs of course do hold a value based on demand. Looks play in part for that demand. Fushia however is a drop from farming Vaetirs.
Yorn thats a great idea. Maybe a few of my colleagues can jump on them.
Darcy the Fushia staff would fall under Tier 1 Common. Some common staffs of course do hold a value based on demand. Looks play in part for that demand. Fushia however is a drop from farming Vaetirs.
Yorn thats a great idea. Maybe a few of my colleagues can jump on them.
Cleavage
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http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Hulen_Hairyback
He crafts Raven Staves. They won't be gold, but neither are the Asuran, Norn or Charr staves when made from the crafters (and hence those three are impossible to get in gold). |
system.fan
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how common is the crytal skin earth staff? i have not seen many good gold ones...
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and got quite a few 20/10's from chestruns in nearly any area in tyria...
not that rare imo... but still cool
Avatar Exico
Cleave, might want add in Insectiod staff and Ancient Moss Staves in that list in Tier 1-3.
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Insectoid_Staff
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Ancient_Moss_Staff
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Insectoid_Staff
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Ancient_Moss_Staff
carnage-runner
Just sold an r11 illusion Raven staff 20/20. Have SS if needed for confirmation. I don't know how long i've had it but I remember it was from South Shiver.
Cleavage
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Cleave, might want add in Insectiod staff and Ancient Moss Staves in that list in Tier 1-3.
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Insectoid_Staff http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Ancient_Moss_Staff |
Wish Swiftdeath
I'm not sure if Forbidden staff's should be in the rare section, there were 7 that dropped during the zmission today, 6 of them gold and 4 of them went to me.
Avatar Exico
Shouldn't Amber and Jade Staves be higher in rarity. Iv seen in past that perfect modded like 20/10 etc.. can sell for 300e+. Cause it very rare to find one perfect in mods like that.
jimbo32
20/10 Jade and Ambers are as common as dirt imo. Even perfect matched req9 20/20 in those skins don't sell for *near* 300e.
Right, but how many of those are usable? 20/10 or matched 20/19 or 20/20? An inherent mod like 20% against disease doesn't count as a decent drop - other than for the wisdom title, it might as well be a white.
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I'm not sure if Forbidden staff's should be in the rare section, there were 7 that dropped during the zmission today, 6 of them gold and 4 of them went to me.
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Cleavage
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I'm not sure if Forbidden staff's should be in the rare section, there were 7 that dropped during the zmission today, 6 of them gold and 4 of them went to me.
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No because a Forbidden Staff with perfect mods is valuable. If this was based off drops alone then the Bo staff would be tier 1 since thousands of them drop daily in white. Forbidden only drop Grape & Gold and only from 1 place. You may need to spend a week chest farming there to get a decent modded one.
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Shouldn't Amber and Jade Staves be higher in rarity. Iv seen in past that perfect modded like 20/10 etc.. can sell for 300e+. Cause it very rare to find one perfect in mods like that.
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