What would everyone do without Discord?

vader

vader

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

P/W

What would everyone do if Discord was suddenly massively nerfed or removed from the game? Seriously? I think at least half of the people playing the game would all of a sudden suck. It seems like every single time I group up with someone in GW they either already have Olias, Livia, and Whispers in their group or they add them shortly after a few people join. Do people even know how to play this game without Discord?

Riot Narita

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2007

Move on to the next OP build of course -_-

I use Discord heroes if I think its going to be most effective, and quite often it is. But I have plenty of other hero builds to suit other places/situations.

I'm not going to avoid using Discord just for snobbery. Or to prove that I can play without it.

novawhiz

novawhiz

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

A/

they would wait til the next op gimmick build appears on pvxwiki and then copy that and run it.

and discords not that great anyway

RedDog91

RedDog91

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2007

Farming for Nick gifts

R/

Wouldn't bother me...I already don't use it cause I'm too lazy to unlock the skills.

Fillyra

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

Nothing. Or rather, I'd go on about my merry self. I don't use discord as there's a lot of other things out there that are up there and better than discord.

Mouse at Large

Mouse at Large

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Scotland

Fuzzy Physics Institute

E/

As above - never used it

dasmitchies

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2007

Sacred Forge Knights

W/P

Discordway Sucks. Try using it in WIK. People use it because they can't make their own builds.

Ayuhmii Shanbwa

Ayuhmii Shanbwa

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

Holland

[GaMe]

Rt/

i use discord, but thats cuz i'm pretty slow cuz of an accident long ago
discord helps me through alot of stuff
however, should they kill discord, i can try my own heroes, as i dont wanna use spiritway, and with the upcoming full hero teams, i already was planning to do that anyway

for me, not much will change, i just gotta make new builds if this happens, thats all

Stolen Souls

Stolen Souls

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by dasmitchies View Post
Discordway Sucks. Try using it in WIK.

^This. I admit I used to use it, up until I realized just how "not godly" it actually is. Come up against anything with good hex/condition removal and the build is crippled.

As for what would happen if Discord was nerfed...everyone would use Spiritway instead.

Marco_vd

Marco_vd

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2010

Belgium | Antwerp

Howling Voids [hv]

W/

If it gets nerfed, just go sabway =)

Johno77

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

England

Apocalyptica UK

N/Me

Never used it. The whole fun of GW for me is using your head, experimenting and trying your own ideas out.

pedrobds

pedrobds

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2010

???oo ???ugs ???lan [?????????]

N/

i only just started using discord a few months ago because i decided to give it a try, before that i used my own builds for panic, nuker, monking, or whatever i needed for the area and it was no problem. discord is just faster and easier, but if it went away it wouldnt be that big of a blow

vamp08

vamp08

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

PA, USA

[COPY]

D/

Id move on to SF eles and a TOF! Para.

That or stop playing pve all together.

jazilla

jazilla

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

Guernsey Milking Coalition[MiLk]

E/Me

I would start using Fevered Dreams, Extend Conditions, and Virulence on heroes with Fragility. I would use YMLaD and AP with EVAS and Sig. of Infection.

The main thing about Discord that people seem to lose sight of is when you are VQ'ing you can use it for 80% of your VQ's. That is SO useful when you aren't having to switch up your hero builds and runes a lot when you are trying to do something that is already time consuming.

To the OP: People wouldn't suck. If they nerfed Discord, people would adapt. There just hasn't been a major skill update in so long that people don't need to change anything up. Also, what do you care what people run? It's not people's fault that they use something that works and that ANet hasn't given us a meaty skill update in ages. Also, it's pretty lolz coming from someone who has Livia for their avatar.

Aldric

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2007

[IG]

R/

Never used it so wouldnt really give a shit

LifeInfusion

LifeInfusion

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

in the midline

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by vamp08 View Post
Id move on to SF eles and a TOF! Para.

That or stop playing pve all together.
SF sucks against most mobs in HM, and against condition removal. You do 75% of listed damage tops, with fire magic. You'd need Spirit Rift/Weaken armor to see respectable numbers.

Regardless, I never use Discord.

Verene

Verene

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jan 2009

[SOTA]

D/

Same thing I've always done, because I've never used Discord.

AndrewSX

AndrewSX

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2010

Italy, Turin

Lake

E/

No problem..used Discord only when i started to vanquish....sabway or custom hero skillbar are much better, expecially if u are able to create the optimal team build for the area....

P.S:try discord in 4-men Old Ascalon areas...

FoxBat

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Amazon Basin [AB]

Mo/Me

In H/H setup Discord is closely tied with the AP Caller. In fact it's the only real reason to run discord over better DPS options like spirits or mesmer AoE... but the ability to summon 5 assassins at a time is far from trivial. So if Discord vanished you'd probably see AP builds in H/H setups lose popularity (albeit said builds would be far from dead.)

Iuris

Iuris

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2006

Crazy ducks from the Forest

W/

Never used a Discord build at all.

Right now, I'd worry most about nerfing Fast casting, since it has finally given mesmers what they needed - the ability to affect more than one enemy in the group.

Dre

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2007

Belgium

Dutch Doom Brigade

W/

I'd run a Minion bomber, a spirit spammer and an Ether renewal infuser,...


oh wait,...

Kerwyn Nasilan

Kerwyn Nasilan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2007

WHERE DO YOU THINK

W/

Spiritway a gogo

End

End

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2008

Rubbing Potassium on water fountains.

LF guild that teaches MTSC (did it long ago before gw2 came out and I quit...but I barely remember)

N/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by vader View Post
What would everyone do if Discord was suddenly massively nerfed or removed from the game?
Avoid guru for a few days since it will all be QQ threads.

Quaker

Quaker

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Aug 2005

Canada

Brothers Disgruntled

Quote:
Originally Posted by vader View Post
What would everyone do if Discord was suddenly massively nerfed or removed from the game? Seriously?
I never use it anyway, so no loss. And if the loss of discord would ruin GW for you, you really need to explore other skill options.

Edit: Lol! and like End says above - I'd avoid the many QQ threads.

lishi

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by dasmitchies View Post
Discordway Sucks. Try using it in WIK. People use it because they can't make their own builds.
learn to call proper target,
proper tabbing to check the build of enemy before letting your AP removed
proper interupt the ress
Proper hex covering

etc


work fine in WiK just not as mindless like usual.

of course eventually something will happen then you will not be able to spam EVAS but shit happen with all builds.

AndrewSX

AndrewSX

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2010

Italy, Turin

Lake

E/

Quote:
learn to call proper target,
proper tabbing to check the build of enemy before letting your AP removed
proper interupt the ress
Proper hex covering

etc


work fine in WiK just not as mindless like usual.
A caller build makes discord more effective(a LOT) but a lot of people i know don't use it...and QQ when tehir discord didn't work...that's probably why they an AP nerf would create some problem to Dway...

Morphy

Morphy

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2009

The Netherlands

Not going to keep up with that anymore

R/

....There are plenty of other popular hero set-ups. People would just switch to those.

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

I have never used the builds that are popular so it wouldnt bother me at all (dont even think I have a discord build on any or my heroes).... the only necro one I use is mm, and that has changed over time, but olias still has it and I use him (no other necro gets much play time with my characters).

so....nerf it, wont bother me one bit.

ACWhammy

ACWhammy

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2009

Texas

Gold Trim Guild [gtg]

R/

I would go to pvxwiki and find the most effective build that is currently being used

sosycpsycho

sosycpsycho

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2008

Atlanta

Krazy Guild With Krazy People[KrZy]

I like to run all blank bars so I can be awesome.
I just realized that other people play this game so I'm off to invent a new one so I don't copy anyone inadvertently. lol I digress

I like discord because I like Necromancers as they are my first and favorite class. Honestly if there is anything in this game I'm addicted to it's minions. People like minions and lots of green dots. Discord is a powerful build that is used rampantly but it's so one sided how can someone hate it? All minion builds have huge weaknesses with interrupts, corpse denial, ect. It's just a build that people use and most don't understand it's synergy with other skills.
Don't hate people, why I am even answering a another "everyone that doesn't design builds is a moron". I am answering it because not everyone is here is a troll, like everyone who runs Discord is not a weak player.

The Synergism between Discord and other skills makes it a good skill for building. You can run a triple minion discord with shambling horrors to trigger bleed and satisfy part of the req for discord. You can discord bomb mixing minion bombing with discord spam. If your in a corpse free zone the discord Necros can work great with spirits instead doing a triple rit subbed team.

Don't hate meta
use it, get bored of it as you have done here, but next time you get bored.... change it up and re-invent it. Don't go to a forum to talk about how the world would be great if the guild wars community was an 8th as awesome as you. If you say "I don't play metas" I am wondering how you got all your awesome build knowledge never playing any skills self-deemed as overpowered and being unwilling to try other builds. Trolls go back to your mountain top and continue to look down on the rest of us having fun ;p I enjoy discord and the 400 billion other builds clogging my hard drive, some mine some not I love all my builds.

Sytherek

Sytherek

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2008

Florida, USA

R/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by vader View Post
What would everyone do if Discord was suddenly massively nerfed or removed from the game? Seriously? I think at least half of the people playing the game would all of a sudden suck. It seems like every single time I group up with someone in GW they either already have Olias, Livia, and Whispers in their group or they add them shortly after a few people join. Do people even know how to play this game without Discord?
Wouldn't change my game one bit. I don't use any of the "ways". Ever.

As for other people: They'll just move to another "way."

Pyrthas

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by vader View Post
It seems like every single time I group up with someone in GW they either already have Olias, Livia, and Whispers in their group or they add them shortly after a few people join. Do people even know how to play this game without Discord?
You know there are other op necro builds that they might be using them for, right? People bring necros (and rits, and mesmers) because they're really good in pve, and removing discord won't change that.

Shadowphoenix

Shadowphoenix

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2008

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Johno77 View Post
Never used it. The whole fun of GW for me is using your head, experimenting and trying your own ideas out.

Never like it the dark green box (obtained my GWAMM about 2 years ago), I only use it once and it feels so boring as hell, either way I agree with you buddy the fun of GW is using your head and thinking outside the box

afya

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mo/Me

I don't use discord no more.

BenjZee

BenjZee

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2006

The Overacheivers [Club]

Mo/

Im still using the old Sabway without Discord Still works fine for me

Captain Bulldozer

Captain Bulldozer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2008

Servants of the Dragon Flames [SODF]

First of all, Discordway is far from game breaking, so there's not really much need for a nerf. What it is, despite what you hear from the negative nancies out there, if a powerful spike based build with good both good offense and good defense. Its also generally pretty easy to use (and heroes run it more or less as they should). If you can't do WiK with discord heroes (yes even in HM) its because you fail to understand something, or have let your brain atrophy.

Anyway, if discord was nerfed, it wouldn't be a big deal. There are many other builds out there that are just as effective (or more) than discordway.... Sabway, Arcfenway, general spiritway, panic + ER protter + MM, etc. Anyway, just because people add necro heroes doesn't mean they are using discord. Necros generally perform exceptionally well due to the craziness of Soul Reaping. This would be true (and was true before discord was buffed down to a 1 sec cast) even if discord got smiters booned. N/Rt healer heroes have been outperforming monk heroes for pretty much as long as they've been around.

Zanagi Kazuhiko

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2009

Kamadan Dis 1

LF trolling/flaming guild, 8=D

W/

hmm...I would use my koss, monk, ele.

Necromas

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

I don't think I've ever used discord as anything but an optional elite on an bomber hero.

I wince slightly whenever I join a pug and the leader decides nobody is allowed to bring heroes that aren't discord.

Shadowspawn X

Shadowspawn X

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

Fellowship of Champions

R/E

People who know how to play properly will just go back to playing regularly and people who don't will QQ. I never used any of the sabway/discordway for a long time. I always used my own builds when getting my 1st GWAMM in 2008. It was not until I asked some guys in the mesmer forum what they recommended for vanq'ing with a mesmer that I found out about the AP caller build and used it to vanq earlier this year. After using it for that purpose I never loaded it up again.

I think the fact that I have done everything on all my characters before these meta's erupted on the scene contributes more to my exclusion of them from my repertoire than any other reason. I just went though the game at a different time so they are not really on my radar. But yeah, if anyone was actually paying any attention to GW1 those builds would have been nerfed a long time ago.

The current live team looks like they will water the game down even more and eventually remove what little strategy is left in the game so the lovers of pve meta play should not have anything to worry about.

FalloMeh

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2010

Faint Luminance [FL]

R/Rt

Quote:
Originally Posted by dasmitchies View Post
Discordway Sucks. Try using it in WIK. People use it because they can't make their own builds.
lol 1st of all, i got thru Wik fine 4 times using mostly discord EVEN tho Anet Made wik to be "discord proof" PPL use discord becuz it is EFFECTIVE. not because of any Gimmick. And i actually only have full dicord on a few chars, but like the first dude said, I wont stop using them becuz of snobbery of to prove im a better player, cuz heros dont mean shit!!!!! i will destroy u in 1v1 lol :P