So having finally been brought up to speed by listening to the Juhn Stumme interview http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO5xAGxfCKU&hd=1, I fnd the mercenary heroes an interesting update. We can now make any composition of heroes given the willingness to invest time to get a character to level 20 and pay for him/her to become a hero.
The number of team hero builds has the potential to increase exponentially. What does everyone think about this?
Mercenary Heroes
MrKGado
razerbeak
To be honest, I didn't really see the potential of this until I realized that this negates the number of heroes in any given profession. Add 4 necros, yes this a complete waste of character slots, and a 7 man discord team is ready to fly through things. It could be interesting, but I probably won't pay for it.
Porkchop Sandwhiches
I guess I will have a better opinion once it's been implemented. However, does this mean I have to level up a character, gear them, and pay real life money just to get additional heroes of a certain class? If so, not impressed. 
Kityn
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Originally Posted by Porkchop Sandwhiches
I guess I will have a better opinion once it's been implemented. However, does this mean I have to level up a character, gear them, and pay real life money just to get additional heroes of a certain class? If so, not impressed.
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I think you are missing the 'cool factor'. The fact that we could use our own characters as heroes is pure awesome. I would definitely use the in-game store for this.
Dark-NighT
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Originally Posted by Kityn
I think you are missing the 'cool factor'. The fact that we could use our own characters as heroes is pure awesome. I would definitely use the in-game store for this.
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Vulturion
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Originally Posted by Porkchop Sandwhiches
I guess I will have a better opinion once it's been implemented. However, does this mean I have to level up a character, gear them, and pay real life money just to get additional heroes of a certain class? If so, not impressed.
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So all you need is one character slot and 60 seconds of effort, in theory.
Dzjudz
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Originally Posted by Porkchop Sandwhiches
I guess I will have a better opinion once it's been implemented. However, does this mean I have to level up a character, gear them, and pay real life money just to get additional heroes of a certain class? If so, not impressed.
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LifeInfusion
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Originally Posted by Miss Presler
Yup the same for me, i have some pretty nice looking characters to replace some of the more ugly heroes, my ele would easily replace Zhed or vekk, sousuke looks decent once you put some primeval armor on him, but the other 2 are pretty bad.
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The real potential here is 6 necros, Avatar of dwayna Dervish to heal the minions o.O.
When we heard of 7 Hero update we didn't know that they would do the mercenary hero update that would let there be more multiples-of-one-profession abuse.
Dzjudz
Lot of Searing Flames heroes 
. Not great for HM, but fun 
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. Not great for HM, but fun 
shoyon456
It sounds very cool. I would hope they don't milk people on this one though, unlike with costumes. I think that a reasonable pricing would be $10 to turn 4 characters into mercenary heroes.
Dark-NighT
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Originally Posted by LifeInfusion
Have fun making a build with no PVE skills that heroes can run properly (they don't run ER that well).
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Rites
the only difference between "merc" hero and the normal heroes would be pixels. oh and the fact that it can be of the proffession you want since you will be leveling it. i guess to some this is important, as for me, i don't care for the idea of paying for "better" pixels.
go cubs
Yeah, this is a fantastic idea and I love it, as people have said though, the problem with that is the 7 necro or the whatever classes, I have no need for that but it could become a problem. It wont affect me but it is kinda unfair for that to happen.
I am very excited for that though, if its a fair price.
Itd b cool if my rit replaced Xandra, although I know that wont happen, or you can only have a max of 3 profs per party for the heroes
I am very excited for that though, if its a fair price.
Itd b cool if my rit replaced Xandra, although I know that wont happen, or you can only have a max of 3 profs per party for the heroes
Kakumei
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Originally Posted by Rites
the only difference between "merc" hero and the normal heroes would be pixels. oh and the fact that it can be of the proffession you want since you will be leveling it. i guess to some this is important, as for me, i don't care for the idea of paying for "better" pixels.
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Benderama
would be nice if we could have characters from other accounts. I wouldn't mind an army of gaile grays/regina buenaobara (sp?) going crazy on some grawl
Xenomortis
Hmm.
If the merc heroes took the place of one of your regular heroes or there was still the cap on how many heroes of each profession you may have then I would support the idea.
But if this allows people who pay more money to take more Necs, Rits or whatever than those who don't, then I'm against it. It doesn't even matter if a popular meta build that uses more of a certain profession than what would traditionally be allowed comes up or not.
If the merc heroes took the place of one of your regular heroes or there was still the cap on how many heroes of each profession you may have then I would support the idea.
But if this allows people who pay more money to take more Necs, Rits or whatever than those who don't, then I'm against it. It doesn't even matter if a popular meta build that uses more of a certain profession than what would traditionally be allowed comes up or not.
Shakkara
I'd only pay for it if we can use PVE skills on them AND we get the loot that drops for them.
Else, I stick to my secondary accounts and filling parties with them, tyvm.
GW complete collection is $15 here.
Else, I stick to my secondary accounts and filling parties with them, tyvm.
GW complete collection is $15 here.
go cubs
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Originally Posted by Shakkara
I'd only pay for it if we can use PVE skills on them AND we get the loot that drops for them.
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But you can still fill your 7 hero party for free at least.
Marvel-Kid
Cannot wait for the 7 hero update. Mercenaries?? AWESOME! HOWEVER (yes caps) I sure hope we don't have to pay with REAL money, I mean COME ON. Yeah, not doing that. Idc if it costs 1000K per character, I would do THAT, but not pay $10 real for 1 character JUST for the looks.
Porkchop Sandwhiches
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Originally Posted by Rites
the only difference between "merc" hero and the normal heroes would be pixels.
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go cubs
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Originally Posted by Marvel-Kid
Cannot wait for the 7 hero update. Mercenaries?? AWESOME! HOWEVER (yes caps) I sure hope we don't have to pay with REAL money, I mean COME ON. Yeah, not doing that. Idc if it costs 1000K per character, I would do THAT, but not pay $10 real for 1 character JUST for the looks.
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turbo234
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Originally Posted by Marvel-Kid
Cannot wait for the 7 hero update. Mercenaries?? AWESOME! HOWEVER (yes caps) I sure hope we don't have to pay with REAL money, I mean COME ON. Yeah, not doing that. Idc if it costs 1000K per character, I would do THAT, but not pay $10 real for 1 character JUST for the looks.
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honestly if you don't want to buy it then don't. it costs money for a reason.
Spiritz
something id like to know but wont be answered till merc release - if you make one of your chrs a hero - what happens to them exactly , eg do they stop being a playable chr etc.Also it was mentioned its going to be a micro transaction meaning you pay for the ability - when this all goes live players are going to be stuck in wiki waiting for details so i hope anet will have on their website a manual for new stuff rather than let us fend for ourselves and screw up bigtime.
makosi
From the French site:
1 mercenary = 9 euros,
3 mercenaries = 15 euros,
8 mercenaries = 35 euros.
If currencies are converted well, and the above prices are correct, the GBP and USD prices will be about:
£8, £13 and £30
$13, $21 and $49.
The above estimates are dependent on the accuracy of this article.
http://www.leprieuredesion.fr/?p=203#more-203
1 mercenary = 9 euros,
3 mercenaries = 15 euros,
8 mercenaries = 35 euros.
If currencies are converted well, and the above prices are correct, the GBP and USD prices will be about:
£8, £13 and £30
$13, $21 and $49.
The above estimates are dependent on the accuracy of this article.
http://www.leprieuredesion.fr/?p=203#more-203
` Marshmallow
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Originally Posted by Miss Presler
Oh dont worry, i can make decent builds for heroes without the need of pve skills, thing is that unlike a lot of people i have patience and i dont need to be killing mega fast with gimmick pve skills to enjoy myself.
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Pretty excited for this. It'll be weird questing with...me.. o_o Would they only take the look of the character when we talk to the registrar? Or can we change them while on a different character?
go cubs
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Originally Posted by makosi
From the French site:
1 mercenary = 9 euros, 3 mercenaries = 15 euros, 8 mercenaries = 35 euros. If currencies are converted well, and the above prices are correct, the GBP and USD prices will be about: £8, £13 and £30 $13, $21 and $49. The above estimates are dependent on the accuracy of this article. http://www.leprieuredesion.fr/?p=203#more-203 |
Thats pretty expensive if you ask me, i would have liked it if 1=$5 3=$10 8=$20
But meh, no need for em anyway ill get over it.
Edit: Ok, I like that you can change what character u have on that slot. That will be helpful, but I would never buy 8? why would anyone?
Dzjudz
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Originally Posted by Spiritz
something id like to know but wont be answered till merc release - if you make one of your chrs a hero - what happens to them exactly , eg do they stop being a playable chr etc.Also it was mentioned its going to be a micro transaction meaning you pay for the ability - when this all goes live players are going to be stuck in wiki waiting for details so i hope anet will have on their website a manual for new stuff rather than let us fend for ourselves and screw up bigtime.
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And to answer the first question:
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Originally Posted by John Stumme on wiki
Well, I wasn't expecting to be talking about Mercenary Heroes so early today, but let me see if I can clear up some confusion before it gets too rampant:
* Mercenary Heroes will not delete the character you used to make them. It is creating a copy of that character, and making them available as a Hero to the other characters on your account. One of the big points of this feature is to have a compelling reason to invest time in alts - we wouldn't ask you to then throw that hard work away. * You can set your runes and insignias as you would any other Hero. * Having a one slot means that you can have one Mercenary Hero - you can update that slot to be another character if you wish, the slot can be used repeatedly. It isn't a one-time use, that'd just be mean. |
Voodoo Rage
Am I the only one who's gonna feel weird having one of "myself" fighting alongside me? lol
FoxBat
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Originally Posted by go cubs
Edit: Ok, I like that you can change what character u have on that slot. That will be helpful, but I would never buy 8? why would anyone?
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Another question would be if you can keep merc heroes from deleted characters. So you roll a necro and level to 20, snapshot, delete the char, roll another necro to 20, snapshot in a new slot, delete, etc. If so that's not a process you'll be wanting to repeat too often, every time you want to switch your hero setup; if you want more flexibility in multiples of character primaries, you'll need many slots to store all the desired options.
AngelWJedi
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Originally Posted by Shakkara
I'd only pay for it if we can use PVE skills on them AND we get the loot that drops for them.
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Originally Posted by Voodoo Rage
Am I the only one who's gonna feel weird having one of "myself" fighting alongside me? lol
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Enko
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Originally Posted by Marvel-Kid
Cannot wait for the 7 hero update. Mercenaries?? AWESOME! HOWEVER (yes caps) I sure hope we don't have to pay with REAL money, I mean COME ON. Yeah, not doing that. Idc if it costs 1000K per character, I would do THAT, but not pay $10 real for 1 character JUST for the looks.
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go cubs
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Originally Posted by FoxBat
You can't use a mercenary hero of yourself. So if you want to use char A as one of your merc slots for other chars, that mean char A only has access to 7 of your 8 merc hero slots, which is just enough for a full party.
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And yes, it will feel very weird to fight along yourself. I might get confused on which char im using :0 lol
Rites
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Originally Posted by shoyon456
It sounds very cool. I would hope they don't milk people on this one though, unlike with costumes. I think that a reasonable pricing would be $10 to turn 4 characters into mercenary heroes.
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didn't realize there was already a post with price estimates
betonboor
What about PvP-only characters? Can I use those as mercenary heroes?
If that's the case there is really no time-wise investment. Just create some PvP characters of the professions you want, and you're done.
If that's the case there is really no time-wise investment. Just create some PvP characters of the professions you want, and you're done.
NerfHerder
In regards to a full hero party, I dont see 5 or more of any one profession giving you a distinct advantage. In fact, you are most likely gimping yourself to better alternatives. But, if you want to pay for a full party of Necros, why not. Players take 6 Necros all the time and no one seems to care. Of which, those two players can easily be Necros. Does it still seem unfair? How is that different from what we can already do?
I'm sure most people will just add the toons they already have. It wont be broken.
I'm sure most people will just add the toons they already have. It wont be broken.
Another Felldspar
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Originally Posted by Rites
the only difference between "merc" hero and the normal heroes would be pixels. oh and the fact that it can be of the proffession you want since you will be leveling it. i guess to some this is important, as for me, i don't care for the idea of paying for "better" pixels.
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Until we see how it's implemented there's just no way to know what they're doing. And tbh, some of it could piss me off.
go cubs
Also, If it has the name of your char, Even though the name will be indented on the party window...Wont it be confusing for people when they see a real name instead of a heros name? Maybe they will have an obvious differential thingy...
Rites
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Originally Posted by Another Felldspar
How do you know? Seriously, how? To me it seems like it would now be possible for a player who only owned Factions to have heroes -- that's a cash shop advantage. When do you have access to loading heroes if you've bought mercenaries? On Shing Jea? In Ascalon City? Why not in Presearing? After all, you paid for it, right?
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trilogy gives you 2 more slots per campaign and of course access to skills/missions/etc of said campaign. that to me is more of an advantage over a hero in the image of one of my toons
i'm pretty sure you get the mercs from embark beach, which is supposed to be accessable from any outpost tied to a campaign mission
billypowergamer
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Originally Posted by Voodoo Rage
Am I the only one who's gonna feel weird having one of "myself" fighting alongside me? lol
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1. Take Ranger
2. Dye armor all red and add as hero
3. Repeat steps 1 and 2 on 4 other hero slots but using black, blue, yellow, and pink dye.
4. GO GO Power Rangers!
Xsiriss
As has been said, it's purely pixels. Not even on the same level as paying munneh for costumes. Especially seeing as I went and pimped up my hero armour in pursuit of HoM.