The only reason one should vote "No" against this is e-peen. I'm not pointing a finger, I'm not throwing a blame, it's the truth. Any arguement to not make this title acount wide could be used just aswell to make current acount wide titles non-acount wide.
On top of this, LDoA is the only title in the game which is exclusive to Prophecies, and not just Prophecies, Pre-Searing at that. This means that every player before the update that had to make the choice between LS or LDoA and chose LS also doesn't have access to this title.
Now, I'm sure noone will have commited suicide over this recent update, but that doesn't mean some people don't get annoyed by it. It takes an hour of a dev's time to make the title acount wide, and it would fix this intire problem with no downsides whatsoever.
Poll : Make LDOA account wide?
Killed u man
Kunder
The logic of the recent update amuses me greatly.
"We changed Survivor because it disadvantaged characters that were created the 1 year or so before Survivor title began"
"We changed LDoA so its no longer exclusive with survivor, permanently disadvantaging everyone of the past nearly 6 years who chose to do survivor over LDoA because LDoA is ridiculous and the titles were supposed to remain exclusive."
Herpdy Derpy?
There is really no reason for it not to be account wide. No gameplay effect other then, gasp, more people have GWAMM which makes your precious GWAMM so much less cool to them. I already have GWAMM without LDoA and don't give a damn, stop being selfish jackasses.
"We changed Survivor because it disadvantaged characters that were created the 1 year or so before Survivor title began"
"We changed LDoA so its no longer exclusive with survivor, permanently disadvantaging everyone of the past nearly 6 years who chose to do survivor over LDoA because LDoA is ridiculous and the titles were supposed to remain exclusive."
Herpdy Derpy?
There is really no reason for it not to be account wide. No gameplay effect other then, gasp, more people have GWAMM which makes your precious GWAMM so much less cool to them. I already have GWAMM without LDoA and don't give a damn, stop being selfish jackasses.
Hobbs
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Killed u man
The only reason one should vote "No" against this is e-peen. I'm not pointing a finger, I'm not throwing a blame, it's the truth. Any arguement to not make this title acount wide could be used just aswell to make current acount wide titles non-acount wide.
|
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Kunder
"We changed LDoA so its no longer exclusive with survivor, permanently disadvantaging everyone of the past nearly 6 years who chose to do survivor over LDoA because LDoA is ridiculous and the titles were supposed to remain exclusive."
|
Kunder
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Hobbs
Find me a quote from an official Arenanet source which specifies that LDoA and Survivor were supposed to remain mutually exclusive. Oh, and you're at no disadvantage to those who hold both LDoA and LS. Your gameplay is in no way harmed.
|
Its clearly a disadvantage to someone who wants the maximum amount of titles.
Killed u man
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Hobbs
lol @ stating opinion as "truth". Current account wide titles make sense as they're all about things that you do across a number of characters within the course of normal play (opening chests, IDing golds, accruing Luxon/Kurzick faction etc.). LDoA, on the other hand, is gotten solely by playing on one character in, even with the new quests, circumstances which cannot be seen as "normal play". It doesn't make sense for a title which can only be progressed on one character to become account wide once the title is achieved.
|
Anyways, there's some major flaws in your reasoning which are unneeded to get pointed out. Read what you wrote a couple of times, look at how titles currently work and you'll already see you're missing the ball.
[email protected] objective statements as "opinion"; My opinion is that I really don't care enough about this to make a big deal out of it -Hence why I didn't make a thread-, I did took the liberty to point out the current facts and standings for people to understand why it isn't a bad suggestion, which is that there is nothing you can bring in against it, aside from the: "It cheapens my title", to which I say: "Re-organize your priorities in life."
Crimson Court
/signed
Anything to make the game faster, easier and more accessible should be priority. So far A.Net has done an awesome job, but more can be done.
In this particular case, it would be to gain that extra GWAMM point without having to restart all over again.
No respect for the elitist here. Shame on them.
Anything to make the game faster, easier and more accessible should be priority. So far A.Net has done an awesome job, but more can be done.
In this particular case, it would be to gain that extra GWAMM point without having to restart all over again.
No respect for the elitist here. Shame on them.
Matirion Maeronta
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Hobbs
Oh, and you're at no disadvantage to those who hold both LDoA and LS. Your gameplay is in no way harmed.
|
Getting LDoA and LS means you need one title less, this means you can choose to not do one hard/expensive title and take LDoA instead, do survivors and just do 28 other titles. It might not be a huge difference for some people, but for others it is. Lets take the goldsink titles as an example, at 100g/point its 1 million gold less to get GWAMM if you get LDoA. This may not seem like much for the people who can afford to buy things with values of 500 ectos easilly, but for the average player, its alot of work to get that much.
If money isn't the issue, time might be: LDoA can be done in 10 hours easilly, while a more timeconsuming title (master of the north) can take several days, depending on the player.
Other then GWAMM, if you look at it from a completionists point of view, assuming the completionist chose survivor in the past (over LDoA), it's impossible to get a "complete" character without doing LDoA on it and every other non account-wide title on it again. This costs alot of extra time (weeks/months if you do not have infinite resources).
Assuming that the completionist made the char have the LDoA instead of survivor in the past, it's just a matter of getting survivors now. This is just a few hours work.
If you still think there is no advantage to anyone (even in smaller groups, such as the completionists). I would advise you to rethink things a bit.
Even if the advantage only occurs on very small scale, if it is a small advantage, then it is an advantage nonetheless.
MithranArkanere
Once you get one GWAMM, getting another doesn't change anything.
LDoA should stay in pre just because it's a pre title, for those that were there.
If there character never was there, there's no reason for the character to have it, even if it lore it could have been there.
LDoA should stay in pre just because it's a pre title, for those that were there.
If there character never was there, there's no reason for the character to have it, even if it lore it could have been there.
Bright Star Shine
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Crimson Court
/signed
Anything to make the game faster, easier and more accessible should be priority. So far A.Net has done an awesome job, but more can be done. In this particular case, it would be to gain that extra GWAMM point without having to restart all over again. No respect for the elitist here. Shame on them. |
Omg, this game is too hard, please change it. It is not, people are just lazy and selfish. It's not us that are, it's you that is.
In my language -going to have to literally translate here- we have a saying: "they give you a finger, and you want the arm." Don't know if there is an equivalent in english, but you should get the point.
You whiny people are never satisfied. You want everything handed to you, which is pretty sad.
A character that has never been in pre should not have LDoA. It's like saying survivor should be account wide.
If some people get what they want, everything should be account wide, every character should be lvl 20 upon creation and should have access to the entire game.
Crimson Court
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Bright Star Shine
It's like saying survivor should be account wide.
|
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Bright Star Shine
If some people get what they want, everything should be account wide, every character should be lvl 20 upon creation and should have access to the entire game.
|
No one suggested for an "I WIN" button.
No matter how much they "nerf" these title grinds, it still takes months for a normal, non-24/7 player to max some. In this case, it makes sense for titles like LDoA to be account based.
Screw e-peen and elitism.
Killed u man
I think the majority of the people opposing this suggestion seem to live under the illusion we (the pro-side) want free titles, which obviously is something that was never said.
But hey, good to see the only people opposing are the people incapable of reading the thread first. (Which only adds the more merit to the pro-side)
But hey, good to see the only people opposing are the people incapable of reading the thread first. (Which only adds the more merit to the pro-side)
Bright Star Shine
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Killed u man
I think the majority of the people opposing this suggestion seem to live under the illusion we (the pro-side) want free titles, which obviously is something that was never said.
But hey, good to see the only people opposing are the people incapable of reading the thread first. (Which only adds the more merit to the pro-side) |
Also, at two posts above this: what I meant was, that people keep asking Anet to make things easier. And easier, and easier etc etc... That's what I meant with "if some people get what they want". Never said it related to this thread; this is just another "give me what I want, so my GWAMM is easier" thread, although the OP never stated it, some people in this thread have.
matter of time
at COAST
to be honest pll using the word retarded vis a vis others are retarded in fact ... no point to discuss with you then ... EOT
to be honest pll using the word retarded vis a vis others are retarded in fact ... no point to discuss with you then ... EOT
Coast
And if u don't want it account based then theres some fair option left also.
This would remove ldoa from characters who left presearing, so they don't got 1more title for gwamm or past gwamm an everyone is happy.(well maybe not the people with ldoa in post, but it's a lot fairer alrdy than how it is now).
This would remove ldoa from characters who left presearing, so they don't got 1more title for gwamm or past gwamm an everyone is happy.(well maybe not the people with ldoa in post, but it's a lot fairer alrdy than how it is now).
JONO51
4/10 of professions cannot achieve this title no matter what. People who made a character pre titles or chose LS instead of this are penalized by never being able to achieve this, like how pre-titles char were penalized for never being able to attempt LS. Make it account wide and be done with it.
Hobbs
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Killed u man
I think the majority of the people opposing this suggestion seem to live under the illusion we (the pro-side) want free titles, which obviously is something that was never said.
|
I have no problem with making GWAMM easier, but I do have a problem with nonsensical adjustments like making characters who have never visited and can never visit an area have access to a PvE title solely available in that area.
Probably won't post here again since it's just two sides firing the same arguments at one another getting no where.
Kunder
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Hobbs
Not at all. I don't have a problem with making stupid titles easier to get. The change to LDoA was a very welcome one and even though I got Incorrigible Ale Hound the old fashioned way, I still think the recent change to make that less time consuming was a good one.
I have no problem with making GWAMM easier, but I do have a problem with nonsensical adjustments like making characters who have never visited and can never visit an area have access to a PvE title solely available in that area. Probably won't post here again since it's just two sides firing the same arguments at one another getting no where. |
The ideal solution would be to let players to temporarily lose all equipment/skills/inventory, go back to pre searing, and let them gain 20 levels worth of experience and get LDoA themselves, but the chances of that happening are very slim.
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Bright Star Shine
You just made my day. You're reflecting so hard, you could point yourself at a wall and start a powerpoint presentation (quote isn't from me, see: Zero Punctuation)
Also, at two posts above this: what I meant was, that people keep asking Anet to make things easier. And easier, and easier etc etc... That's what I meant with "if some people get what they want". Never said it related to this thread; this is just another "give me what I want, so my GWAMM is easier" thread, although the OP never stated it, some people in this thread have. |
Bright Star Shine
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Kunder
Bullshit, I already have GWAMM (and 2 titles above it, actually). We want it changed because locking characters out of titles is just stupid, as Anet themselves admitted when they changed survivor, even though their "fix" screwed it up even more because now LDoA is just as bad as survivor was x 10. Quit your bitching about making things easier when you yourself support using cons for pve (something that actually makes the GAME easier instead of simply requiring a player to start a character over because Anet changed the rules). QQ much?
|
Also, gg bringing up consets, very mature, very mature indeed, it's called deflecting the subject cause you can't handle it.
Also, I never asked for consets, I never went and QQ'ed that the game was too hard and Anet should make it easier by introducing consets. They did, and I use them, but only for SCs, not for general PvE, because that's so easy anyway it's ridiculous. I don't get why people use them for, for example VQ's etc..
Kunder
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Bright Star Shine
So do I, actually, am currently getting a couple more titles. But my point is, if you go on about "letting out on titles", I want my lvl 1 warrior from in Shing Jea to have max LB, because I think it's unfair that he hasn't got access to NF yet. Logic, right?
|
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Bright Star Shine
Also, gg bringing up consets, very mature, very mature indeed, it's called deflecting the subject cause you can't handle it.
|
Any reasonable person sees the difference between making the game easier and not forcing players to throw away a character and re-grind several titles they already accomplished.
Gill Halendt
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Hobbs
Hero and Treasure/Wisdom are account wide for convenience; due to the nature of PvP characters it would be stupid for Hero to be character based and Treasure/Wisdom just led to people putting their Golds/Keys in storage and switching characters to ID/use them. It was time consuming and needlessly complicated.
LDoA on the other hand requires the exact same input no matter what character you do it in and is made no less convenient by being account based, it only screws up the lore. |
Sure, other titles (like, reputation titles) could be turned account-wide, provided they're revised to match the existing account-based titles in terms of time/efforts required to max.
As for LDoA, it rewards a very specific achievement of a specific character. I can't see a single reason for it to be account-wide, so, /notsigned.
melissa b
3 Things to point out to the no crowd ....
People saying this is to make Gwamm easier. Actually it would be making Gwamm = in work to someone that creates a new character in prophecies. ie balance
People saying it goes against lore ....
Other titles already go against lore. Even a recent update goes against lore. The march 3rd update gives people that death leveled LDOA a chance to get survivor. Seem not very logical that someone dying thousands of times is a legendary survivor. Again changing LDOA to account base going against lore would be balanced by other titles going against lore.
Anet specifically supporting implementing balance so that all characaters have access to titles. Same number of titles for one character = balance.
Going to wiki, Anet says in reference to why survivor was changed..."There were also vast legions of characters who existed and were well established in the world long before this title was implemented; they almost certainly never obtained it. " source: http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Devel...in_Pre-Searing
So updating LDOA to being accountwide would be consistent with Anets vision of allowing characters access to titles that existed before they were implemented. This would finish the balancing they started with survivor.
In summary: Yes = Balance
People saying this is to make Gwamm easier. Actually it would be making Gwamm = in work to someone that creates a new character in prophecies. ie balance
People saying it goes against lore ....
Other titles already go against lore. Even a recent update goes against lore. The march 3rd update gives people that death leveled LDOA a chance to get survivor. Seem not very logical that someone dying thousands of times is a legendary survivor. Again changing LDOA to account base going against lore would be balanced by other titles going against lore.
Anet specifically supporting implementing balance so that all characaters have access to titles. Same number of titles for one character = balance.
Going to wiki, Anet says in reference to why survivor was changed..."There were also vast legions of characters who existed and were well established in the world long before this title was implemented; they almost certainly never obtained it. " source: http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Devel...in_Pre-Searing
So updating LDOA to being accountwide would be consistent with Anets vision of allowing characters access to titles that existed before they were implemented. This would finish the balancing they started with survivor.
In summary: Yes = Balance
Bad Company Sin
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by JONO51
4/10 of professions cannot achieve this title no matter what. People who made a character pre titles or chose LS instead of this are penalized by never being able to achieve this, like how pre-titles char were penalized for never being able to attempt LS. Make it account wide and be done with it.
|
Qing Guang
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Bad Company Sin
Non proph chars should NOT BE ABLE TO OBTAIN LDOA. It is an area/campaign specific title. unless theres some mythical Ascalon Cities in Fac/NF. Though there isn't.
|
I could see making GWAMM account-wide, so people don't feel forced to get all their titles on one character, but this is just stupid.
cosyfiep
no
ldoa means ONE character made it to level 20 in pre searing, the same way protector of tyria says that ONE character finished all the tyria missions, same as protector of cantha as well as cartography--these are titles that ONE character must do. When you make a new character you dont get protector or guardian without ever having done a mission do you? WHY would you give any other character than a prophecies based character ldoa?
makes about as much sense as making protector and guardian (and cartography) account wide, heck why bother playing a new character if they already have all the missions mastered/bonus achieved and the whole map already unfogged? These are things that your character should do not your account.
ldoa means ONE character made it to level 20 in pre searing, the same way protector of tyria says that ONE character finished all the tyria missions, same as protector of cantha as well as cartography--these are titles that ONE character must do. When you make a new character you dont get protector or guardian without ever having done a mission do you? WHY would you give any other character than a prophecies based character ldoa?
makes about as much sense as making protector and guardian (and cartography) account wide, heck why bother playing a new character if they already have all the missions mastered/bonus achieved and the whole map already unfogged? These are things that your character should do not your account.
melissa b
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Qing Guang
This, right here. Even if I had the patience to get LDoA on my ele, my necro should not get credit for it... she was born on Shing Jea, she went to school in Shing Jea, she's lived her entire life in Cantha, and she's never even set foot in Ascalon. Why the heck should she get the title?
I could see making GWAMM account-wide, so people don't feel forced to get all their titles on one character, but this is just stupid. |
Kunder
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by melissa b
I see where your coming from, sure your necro never went to Ascalon so it doesn't fit in with lore. However, other titles don't fit in with lore. So unless every title strictly follows lore why make non-consistent rules? LDOA should not be a special exception to follow lore for it but than turn arround and say well its ok for survivor title to not follow lore and well why not do the same for treasure hunter.
|
PvP titles? Your PvE characters didn't earn them, why should they get the title? In fact, if you reroll to another class you should reset your title progresss. I ask you: how can your 1 day old character be a Legendary Hero/Champion? God damn whiners keep wanting Anet to make things easy for them, you might as well just award r15 Hero to anyone who starts up guild wars I suppose.
The Real Avalon
Uhm. Couple of options to me.
1# Make it an exclusive pre-title. It's already in your HoM so you get the benefit off of it. When people leave pre, they should strip it.
2# Don't make it count for GWAMM
3# Change the Elona/Cantha Beginner islands to an area similar to pre. Strip those missions from the Protector/Guardian title track and add a Defender title to those areas.
4# An entire new Beginner area for both other Expansions.
5# Make it Account-based
Honestly, if you're just saying no, it's because you're trying to protect your precious GWAMM title.
My monk main wasn't able to do Survivor & LDoA because he's THAT old. Now that I've got Survivor it's pretty cool cause I'm at 36 Maxed Titles now, I'd just like to have the same options that others had when they got that title on another character. I already have it on my ranger, but I didn't want to make that one my main. Are people to be disadvantaged when they want a main from any of the expansions? Seems somewhat unfair to me, doesn't it?
1# Make it an exclusive pre-title. It's already in your HoM so you get the benefit off of it. When people leave pre, they should strip it.
2# Don't make it count for GWAMM
3# Change the Elona/Cantha Beginner islands to an area similar to pre. Strip those missions from the Protector/Guardian title track and add a Defender title to those areas.
4# An entire new Beginner area for both other Expansions.
5# Make it Account-based
Honestly, if you're just saying no, it's because you're trying to protect your precious GWAMM title.
My monk main wasn't able to do Survivor & LDoA because he's THAT old. Now that I've got Survivor it's pretty cool cause I'm at 36 Maxed Titles now, I'd just like to have the same options that others had when they got that title on another character. I already have it on my ranger, but I didn't want to make that one my main. Are people to be disadvantaged when they want a main from any of the expansions? Seems somewhat unfair to me, doesn't it?
Ghull Ka
Nope.
The "account wide" titles are account wide because "something" about them results in a painful, un-fun or otherwise bad playing experience. Account wide titles should be the exception, not the rule.
I'd vote for making Drunkard, Sweet Tooth and Party Animal account-wide, for the same reason they made Seeker of Wisdom account-wide: It was lame having to "pass your golds to your wisdom character" to identify them. It's also lame having to pass all your booze, toys and sweets to your GWAMM-in-progress so that you don't "waste" these items.
The "account wide" titles are account wide because "something" about them results in a painful, un-fun or otherwise bad playing experience. Account wide titles should be the exception, not the rule.
I'd vote for making Drunkard, Sweet Tooth and Party Animal account-wide, for the same reason they made Seeker of Wisdom account-wide: It was lame having to "pass your golds to your wisdom character" to identify them. It's also lame having to pass all your booze, toys and sweets to your GWAMM-in-progress so that you don't "waste" these items.
melissa b
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Ghull Ka
Nope.
The "account wide" titles are account wide because "something" about them results in a painful, un-fun or otherwise bad playing experience. Account wide titles should be the exception, not the rule. I'd vote for making Drunkard, Sweet Tooth and Party Animal account-wide, for the same reason they made Seeker of Wisdom account-wide: It was lame having to "pass your golds to your wisdom character" to identify them. It's also lame having to pass all your booze, toys and sweets to your GWAMM-in-progress so that you don't "waste" these items. |
Un-Fun...it not fun for a sin to not be able to participate in LDOA or any main character that can't access LDOA
Bad Playing Experience...see painful
Lame....its lame that a main can't attain LDOA due to creation date
Bad Company Sin
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by melissa b
Painful.... it's very painful to delete a character with 40 titles and redo all those 40 titles just to get where you were and have access to LDOA
Un-Fun...it not fun for a sin to not be able to participate in LDOA or any main character that can't access LDOA Bad Playing Experience...see painful Lame....its lame that a main can't attain LDOA due to creation date |
Perkunas
I knew this argument would come up sooner or later.
No. LDoA is a pre-sear title. If another title is needed to "balance" the titles, put one in Factions and NF exclusive to them.
No. LDoA is a pre-sear title. If another title is needed to "balance" the titles, put one in Factions and NF exclusive to them.
Bad Company Sin
Lol, Legendary Gardener of Ran Musu Gardens.
Kunder
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Bad Company Sin
Lol, Legendary Gardener of Ran Musu Gardens.
|
Cantha should get Legendary Ninja, while Elona gets Legendary Pirate. Cmon Anet, this is too good to pass up.
Elfblade
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by melissa b
Painful.... it's very painful to delete a character with 40 titles and redo all those 40 titles just to get where you were and have access to LDOA
Un-Fun...it not fun for a sin to not be able to participate in LDOA or any main character that can't access LDOA Bad Playing Experience...see painful Lame....its lame that a main can't attain LDOA due to creation date |
Bad Company Sin
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Kunder
Cantha should get Legendary Ninja, while Elona gets Legendary Pirate. Cmon Anet, this is too good to pass up. |
matter of time
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Coast
who are u? never heard of you, must be pretty well known in the game i suppose...
And I'm calling u a RETARD because u are unfair towards other people, thats a good reason enough to be retarded or have Downs. |
Matirion Maeronta
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by matter of time
I have explained to you the mechanisms of these titiles because your comparison wasn't right and what you have you did?
|
ANET has already made it clear that titles weren't supposed to be exclusive unless you do not own the campaign they belong to. In combination with the fact that the LDoA title is a grind, just as the wisdom/chest titles are. It has more weight to be converted into an account wide title, in order to remove the exclusiveness, then that any other title has.
My advice is to check your spelling, grammar and reasoning before you post anything, all you do now is make yourself look like a random kid that complains when people want to take his toy away.
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Bad Company Sin
Non proph chars should NOT BE ABLE TO OBTAIN LDOA. It is an area/campaign specific title. unless theres some mythical Ascalon Cities in Fac/NF. Though there isn't.
|
If you would bring up a single reason why they shouldn't make LDoA account-wide that doesn't say "they can't have that if they weren't in Ascalon back then", please reply... Untill then, that same reason will also dismiss any other account based title...
If you would be correct the following needs to change:
A pre-searing char shouldn't have the luxon/kurzick title, they were never in Cantha! They shouldn't have gladiator, they never fought in PvP! They haven't opened a chest or even seen a gold item! They can't have those titles!
If anyone of the against side has any reason that it shouldn't change, other then elitism/epeen/stupidity, let me know. If it is a valid reason, I will admit it. If it is not, I will compare it with other situations which already exist.
dagrdagaz
LDoA is to me a character based title.
So, no, to making it account wide.
Especially becos it should be and remain impossible for Rits,Sins,Paras and Dervs to get LDoA.
I still find it silly that several account based titles show up for my pre char when there is no chance at all the pre char could have done any thing for them.
But thats another thing.
Except, that Prophecies characters can travel to Cantha and do quests and missions there.
pre-searing Ascalon is in the past for Factions and Nightfall characters, they cannot travel there. As simple as that.
So, no, to making it account wide.
Especially becos it should be and remain impossible for Rits,Sins,Paras and Dervs to get LDoA.
I still find it silly that several account based titles show up for my pre char when there is no chance at all the pre char could have done any thing for them.
But thats another thing.
Quote:
| If the campaign specificness would matter, then protector of cantha shouldn't be available to a prophecies character either, as it is specific to factions... |
pre-searing Ascalon is in the past for Factions and Nightfall characters, they cannot travel there. As simple as that.
Aldric
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Matirion Maeronta
If the campaign specificness would matter, then protector of cantha shouldn't be available to a prophecies character either, as it is specific to factions...Obviously a prophecies or nightfall character should never be allowed to get that!
|
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Matirion Maeronta
A pre-searing char shouldn't have the luxon/kurzick title, they were never in Cantha! They shouldn't have gladiator, they never fought in PvP! They haven't opened a chest or even seen a gold item! They can't have those titles!
|
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by The Real Avalon
Honestly, if you're just saying no, it's because you're trying to protect your precious GWAMM title.
|
Anet royally arsed up when implementing this title, they should spare us all the outpouring of whining and either give everyone that leaves presearing it or just delete it altogether. Either way removing it from 50/50 & gwammage wouldnt bother me in the least
Bad Company Sin
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Matirion Maeronta
I have to agree on the point that his comparison is incorrect... But the truth actually makes the balance go to his side.
ANET has already made it clear that titles weren't supposed to be exclusive unless you do not own the campaign they belong to. In combination with the fact that the LDoA title is a grind, just as the wisdom/chest titles are. It has more weight to be converted into an account wide title, in order to remove the exclusiveness, then that any other title has. My advice is to check your spelling, grammar and reasoning before you post anything, all you do now is make yourself look like a random kid that complains when people want to take his toy away. If the campaign specificness would matter, then protector of cantha shouldn't be available to a prophecies character either, as it is specific to factions... Obviously a prophecies or nightfall character should never be allowed to get that! Let's change every title to match your great choice of words! PvP titles should only be available to PvP only characters, nightfall titles only to nightfall, etc... If you would bring up a single reason why they shouldn't make LDoA account-wide that doesn't say "they can't have that if they weren't in Ascalon back then", please reply... Untill then, that same reason will also dismiss any other account based title... If you would be correct the following needs to change: A pre-searing char shouldn't have the luxon/kurzick title, they were never in Cantha! They shouldn't have gladiator, they never fought in PvP! They haven't opened a chest or even seen a gold item! They can't have those titles! If anyone of the against side has any reason that it shouldn't change, other then elitism/epeen/stupidity, let me know. If it is a valid reason, I will admit it. If it is not, I will compare it with other situations which already exist. |
I'm sorry there are no missions in pre, those titles are obtainable by all pve chars, aslong as they can travel to that area, like I posted earlier, LDOA is an AREA SPECIFIC title, not only campaign. Who are you to admit anything? After all we are all going off opinion right? Thats what polls are based on right? I'm sorry people dont want to make a char and get LDOA and add it to their HoM, Not anyones problem but their own. If they want the title bad enough, they'll obtain it. As for Kurz/Lux, Wisdom/Pirate(Treasure) Titles I'm sorry they are account wide, just like pvp titles. One thing I think everyone can agree on though is PVP chars should not, will not ever be able to obtain campaign completion titles. Thats something I don't get about people, GW is a FTP game (free to play) yet when something is too hard, they whine, when it gets changed they whine, when it goes how they want, THEY WANT MORE. As for me looking like some random kid who's whining because my (toy was taken away) I have yet to obtain LDOA, but I dont bitch and complain about it like everyone else. "Oh I got it on this char, I wanna show it on all, ffs, wanna show it on all, go delete all, and remake all your chars in proph excluding dervs, sins, rits, par.