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Originally Posted by Xsiriss
No you're missing the point in your bias. The invoke build was an all round good thing, capable of consistently dealing large amounts of damage to multiple or single targets as well as being able to take support skills for cracked armour or even stuff like rend enchantments or blind. It was versatile. Something like a mesmer or a rit is more situational and has different functionalities (splinter wep/spirit support and anti caster/interrupts respectively). Yes they deal damage, but through utility. You can't compare the single damage factor of E-surge to the Air line, which is designed for the main purpose of dps. Especially seeing as do make a decent mesmer dps built you need the help of pve skills.
Invoke also has a much better role in places where the raw damage outclasses armour ignoring damage in most cases. This can spell classes or the whole of Normal Mode. Yes NM, it's still a large part of PvE that people play and is worth taking into account.
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Im not talking about nor bothered with NM, anything works in NM. In fact in that case, Searing Flames would be better than Invoke.
Invoke is a good build, but in HM PVE it wasnt close to as good as people are pretending / hyping it up to be. Against larger mobs, both Energy Surge and Mistrust easily dealt far more raw damage than Invoke ever could, and the conditions for them were easily met in PVE (also for Cry of Frustration, Overload and Unnatural sig).
Fire magic was meant to have been designed for more DPS than Air, but as we all know nothing about ellys worked as the class was intended once HM was turned on, and this update is specifically concerning the effectiveness of ellys in HM, not in incredibly easy NM.
The nerf to Invoke is meaningless to a player controlled character, all it affects is heroes. It is still easy to use, and heroes can still use wither one of Invoke or Chain lightning without any problems.
Invoke and Chain Lightning were also incredibly brainless skills to use in their previous form, all you had to do was stand there mashing buttons 1 + 2 without ever thinking about anything. I suppose that is why people enjoyed using them in PVE, as most other builds tend to require additional thought and skill. Now you simply have to be careful not to over spam them, hardly anything worth complaining about.