Live Team shifted over to work on GW2

DiogoSilva

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Join Date: Feb 2011

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As a reminder, GW1 is still being supported in the sense that they are still polishing it up what's already there (bug fixes, skill updates). It's just that the days of new content like WiK and WoC have ended.

artemis-fowl

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2009

Duchy Przeszłości [DP]

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But there should be WiK/WoC like nf content!
I think it may be relased on annivessary

MithranArkanere

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Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

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Let's just hope they can eventually dedicate resources to GW1 again.

AngelWJedi

AngelWJedi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2008

orlando,florida

Society of Souls [Argh]

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its probably just me but it didnt seem like they did a lot of big stuff like woc/wik except rarely. so how is it any different then it was before?

FallenAngel_

FallenAngel_

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Join Date: May 2010

Canada

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Although I'm looking forward to Guild Wars 2, I wish that they wouldn't abandon support for this game. With the very spaced out skill balances and things that need fixing, once they attend to those issues leaving this game will be alright.

Swingline

Swingline

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2010

Somewhere far away from you

The Mirror of Reason[SNOW]

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Goodbye Paragon skill update.

Goodbye Smiting skill update.

Goodbye second ele update?

Goodbye NF beyond content.

Goodbye to any hope for an AB update.

I assume starting Easter early was meant to soften the blow?... It didn't.

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

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hmmm...guess they have already shifted since the log in announcement is STILL last weekends---

Fatouma

Fatouma

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Feb 2008

Germany

Sancta Lux [StLx]

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Originally Posted by Swingline View Post
Goodbye Paragon skill update.

Goodbye Smiting skill update.

Goodbye second ele update?

Goodbye NF beyond content.

Goodbye to any hope for an AB update.
You forgot one: Goodbye Ranger update.
Bad news indeed.

Crom The Pale

Crom The Pale

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

Ageis Ascending

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Realistically I think they want GW to become update free shortly after GW2 is out. Aside from bug fixes I would be surprised if we see much in the way of updates for GW in the future.

It's a fact that they could just shut down the servers for GW the moment GW2 goes live but they won't do that. They are going above and beyond just by keeping GW alive after the release of GW2.

It's not like the game is unplayable as it is. How much more can we expect from them?

MagnumShadow

MagnumShadow

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2010

Far Shiverpeaks

No more Beyond content ? Balls...

ogre_jd

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2008

Canadia

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I'll never forget Anet abandoned AB!
Eh. The only thing they could do for AB is put the border back in the middle and decouple it from the AB results. With the border almost permanently giving almost every outpost that *can* change hands to the Luxons, why would anyone want to play Kurzick?

FoxBat

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Amazon Basin [AB]

Mo/Me

I really want to be cynical on this one, but honestly the reason they aren't hiring more people is because they only need this stuff on a temp basis and would just have to lay any new hires off after GW2 is out the door. So in that instance, it makes more sense to save the trouble of hiring and just borrow the GW1 live team.

"Temp" could be all the way up till the end of the year though.

DiogoSilva

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Join Date: Feb 2011

Girl

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Originally Posted by Swingline View Post
Goodbye Paragon skill update.

Goodbye Smiting skill update.

Goodbye second ele update?


Goodbye NF beyond content.

Goodbye to any hope for an AB update.

I assume starting Easter early was meant to soften the blow?... It didn't.
this means that the Live Team will be shifting much of its focus to support the GW2 team. We’re going to be pretty busy, but we will still support the live game with balance updates and bug fixes

enter_the_zone

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2007

R/

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Originally Posted by FoxBat View Post
I really want to be cynical on this one, but honestly the reason they aren't hiring more people is because they only need this stuff on a temp basis and would just have to lay any new hires off after GW2 is out the door. So in that instance, it makes more sense to save the trouble of hiring and just borrow the GW1 live team.

"Temp" could be all the way up till the end of the year though.
Especially when any new hires or contractors are going to take ages to get up to speed with the GW engine, when one can reasonably assume that the Live Team have been required to keep abreast of the changes and are fully conversant on both the original engine and the updated engine.

Missing HB

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2010

Anna

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Quote:
Originally Posted by DiogoSilva View Post
this means that the Live Team will be shifting much of its focus to support the GW2 team. We’re going to be pretty busy, but we will still support the live game with balance updates and bug fixes
Come on, most balance updates we had past 2 years concerned GvG and bug fixes were about things that noone ever noticed... As far as i know, the turtle is still bugged in FA..

DiogoSilva

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Join Date: Feb 2011

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Originally Posted by Missing HB View Post
Come on, most balance updates we had past 2 years concerned GvG and bug fixes were about things that noone ever noticed... As far as i know, the turtle is still bugged in FA..
I'm not saying it will be any better now, just that it shouldn't be any worse.

Demon's Dance

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2010

A/

There are 4?! people in the Live Team... When you borrow 100% of a team with 4 members you really don't care about the projects they are working on. On top of that GW2 is different game and has almost nothing in common with GW.

My personal opinion is : GW started bleeding with "bimonthly updates", suffered deep wound from Mercenary heroes and now it is in downed state.

StormDragonZ

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Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2008

New York

W/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by DiogoSilva View Post
this means that the Live Team will be shifting much of its focus to support the GW2 team. We’re going to be pretty busy, but we will still support the live game with balance updates and bug fixes
August can't come any sooner.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

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Originally Posted by Demon's Dance View Post
[...]

My personal opinion is : GW started bleeding with "bimonthly updates", suffered deep wound from Mercenary heroes and now it is in downed state.
Let's hope no one hits [F] for a long, long time.

Porkchop Sandwhiches

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Join Date: Jun 2005

Fishing Village in Wizard's Folly

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Well at least they were honest about it. I'm sure most of us were expecting that was happening. For sure we aren't getting the Elona chapter of Beyond now.

Odinius

Odinius

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Netherlands

[OBEY]

N/R

Does this mean our last 3 heroes and the WoC weapons won't ever go in our HoM too?
That's too bad
Well I'll just sit on my last heap of wealth till I see what the &th Bday brings and if it's nothing special I'll just return to help other getting to 30/50 till gw2 is out.

Aeyl

Aeyl

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Join Date: Jan 2007

The Wardrobe

Kirins of Holy Light [聖光麒麟]

R/Rt

i hate guild wars 2...

StormDragonZ

StormDragonZ

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2008

New York

W/R

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Originally Posted by Aeyl View Post
i hate guild wars 2...
I still intend to be the final person in Guild Wars. Everyone else can "grow up 250 years older", but I'll still be "the young at heart" person reminiscing about the good days.

Mintha Syl

Mintha Syl

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Join Date: Apr 2010

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i hate guild wars 2...
...who doesn't?
no wait it's just few of us who do, the rest loves with passion

Yol

Yol

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Join Date: Feb 2007

GameAmp Guides [AMP]

E/

"there’s also something special planned for our 7th Anniversary."

For all we know, this could be the entire GWB:Elona story, a HoM update, AB fix, and skill update. Let's wait and see what they have in store for us before proclaiming that the sky is falling, eh?

Swingline

Swingline

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2010

Somewhere far away from you

The Mirror of Reason[SNOW]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by DiogoSilva View Post
this means that the Live Team will be shifting much of its focus to support the GW2 team. We’re going to be pretty busy, but we will still support the live game with balance updates and bug fixes
Key word there. All "balance" means is skill updates to pvp. If it was intended to include pve skill updates then it should of been worded better but I'm 100% certain it means only pvp.

I am guessing the 7th anniversary is the second ele update and new presents. Maybe something else but I would be surprised if it was NF beyond stuff.

BenjZee

BenjZee

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Join Date: Dec 2006

The Overacheivers [Club]

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I've just realised after all these years I've expected a dragon to wake up on the birthday event just before guild wars 2 release.... it is probably this year! maddddd

Not New

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Join Date: Jan 2012

Where the Occupation takes me

Occupy this [site]

Mo/D

Yeah the surprise for 7th anniversary...

GW2 release date announced

Discontinuing any support for GW1

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I've just realised after all these years I've expected a dragon to wake up on the birthday event just before guild wars 2 release.... it is probably this year! maddddd

Oo.. an epic dragon boss fight..that would be awesome....where everyone can play together at once!!! And take 2 weeks to kill a single foe....that would be nice..

Missing HB

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2010

Anna

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Something really original and unexpected would be cool. That dragon boss battle might be too much, and i doubt it will be such a thing..It will probably be either WoC bounties, either some items.
I just hope it won't be costumes, i would be totally disappointed by then...

Crimson Court

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2010

MCWO

Mo/R

Come on guys...
7 years is a shit-ton for any multiplayer videogame.
Time to move on.

Sequel looks decent and it's still F2P.

Lanier

Lanier

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2010

[Pink]

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Originally Posted by Crimson Court View Post
Come on guys...
7 years is a shit-ton for any multiplayer videogame.
Time to move on.

Sequel looks decent and it's still F2P.
The point is, the sequel isn't here yet.

enter_the_zone

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2007

R/

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Originally Posted by Lanier View Post
The point is, the sequel isn't here yet.
Yeah, but it's not like they've left GW to die, there just won't be some updates for a while.... seriously, get some realistic perspective.

Lanier

Lanier

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Join Date: Jan 2010

[Pink]

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Originally Posted by enter_the_zone View Post
Yeah, but it's not like they've left GW to die, there just won't be some updates for a while.... seriously, get some realistic perspective.
"get some realistic perspective"?

Of course there wont be updates for awhile. Thats what a lot of people in this thread are disappointed about.

DRGN

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

In Memorium [iBot]

Mo/A

Eh, as long as they give some support, I can understand this. It was getting way too close to GW2 to hope for anything big anyway. If this helps them get it out sooner then go for it.

enter_the_zone

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2007

R/

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Originally Posted by Lanier View Post
"get some realistic perspective"?

Of course there wont be updates for awhile. Thats what a lot of people in this thread are disappointed about.
The realistic perspective is that any updates after 4 years (5 in august) since the last paid installment are frankly miraculous, let alone the addition of new, free content and, up to now, semi-regular balance updates.

Tell me, is there a single comparable game (so no subs, no restrictions on f2p, no cash shop that's effectively mandatory) that age (as in, the last time you had to pay money to buy an expansion was 4 years ago) that's had any recent updates at all, let alone a dedicated Live Team? I can't think of one.

Lanier

Lanier

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2010

[Pink]

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Originally Posted by enter_the_zone View Post
Tell me, is there a single comparable game (so no subs, no restrictions on f2p, no cash shop that's effectively mandatory) that age (as in, the last time you had to pay money to buy an expansion was 4 years ago) that's had any recent updates at all, let alone a dedicated Live Team? I can't think of one.
um, ok. I'm not quite sure what point you're trying to make. I already said earlier in this thread that I didnt think we deserved updates. That doesn't change the fact that I still want to see them.

Mintha Syl

Mintha Syl

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2010

People keep talking about deserving...it's not like it's a gift for having been good kids...
It's just a matter of promises vs facts. It's a matter of ssaying you'll do something and then do otherway. I know big companies have difficulties with planning etc etc, but I'd prefer them being clear from the start even if brutalish then promising something they can't assure.

Shayne Hawke

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Join Date: May 2007

Clan Dethryche [dth]

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Another confirmation of my belief that the worst enemy of GW has been its own sequel.

Just how long will this go on, I wonder? Will the Live Team be tied up until after full release of GW2, or are they only pulling them for long enough to get some of the beta periods to be running more smoothly? Will the entire team be returning focus to GW, or will some of them remain working on GW2? Will we get any new people shifting focus to GW once GW2 has shipped?

It is a mystery.

By the way, what's with the rush? If the release is scheduled to be "when it's ready", then there's really no need to pull people from the Live Team to push the game out any faster, is there? Is big daddy NCsoft becoming impatient?

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yol View Post
"there’s also something special planned for our 7th Anniversary."

For all we know, this could be the entire GWB:Elona story, a HoM update, AB fix, and skill update. Let's wait and see what they have in store for us before proclaiming that the sky is falling, eh?

probably more costumes and that there isnt going to be anymore birthday gifts....and something else added to the cash store.

I tend to agree with shayne on this one, gw2 is gw's biggest problem....we have been hearing for 5 years that why something has not been done on gw is because they are working on gw2....just exactly what will happen when gw2 is released? will the EXCUSE continue to be 'we are working on gw2' since the live team is all over there now? Or the other 'we dont have the man power to do that (because all our people were moved over to gw2)?
/sad panda

Mintha Syl

Mintha Syl

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2010

Quote:
Originally Posted by cosyfiep View Post
we have been hearing for 5 years that why something has not been done on gw is because they are working on gw2....just exactly what will happen when gw2 is released? will the EXCUSE continue to be 'we are working on gw2' since the live team is all over there now? Or the other 'we dont have the man power to do that (because all our people were moved over to gw2)?
Probably something along the lines of "because all the updates/mantainance we need to do to gw2"

You two are right saying the sequel ruined the first, I hope for them they calculated this right, cause in case gw2 would happen to be a flop they'd find themselves with a disastered top game they decided to abandon and a new game which only costed them a lot of money and losing profit from the good one. And that would be a bad hit.