Kickstarter for Guild Wars 1? Could Work?

I mean think about it. They would have money to revitalize the game, better graphics, new story, new campaign, FREAKIN SAME MECHANICS and gameplay, along with same PvP system....and they would not have the option to ignore us anymore.


I mean why let the game die when its obvious that there is still a huge public for it?! It's the only game in the genre out there (COOPRPG w/ some elements of MMO).

Guild Wars guru could take the lead, make it and spread all over the internet (also in GW2 forums) and we would wait for the result.

Sincerely it has everything to succeed. And no damage whatsoever.


Just a thought.

I would donate to it because I love this game, but not so sure how much fun new content would be with the low player-base we have now.

I doubt you would get all of that from one Kickstarter. It would and could work, but not if the high ups at Anet look down at the game as stagnate and limited.

I'm fine with another addition of WiK and WoC type content with a skill update or maybe even an elite area.

The most important thing to keep in mind is that we can not do this without the approval of Arena-Net (and, possibly, NCSoft). And seeing as how, about a month ago, they made that bull**** update of giving teleportation the same restrictions as shadow-stepping just one day before Guild Wars was on sale for 30% less, from Feb 22nd until the 25th, (I mean, really, the coincidence is too convenient) I'd say they would prefer everybody forget about the original GW as soon as possible.

This may even make sense when you think that they wouldn't want their player base to be spread out between 2 games. By having most of their "fans" concentrated on one game, they can also concentrate their own resources on that same game, which is also more profitable than its predecessor since it allows players to buy in-game gold with real life money. Furthermore, they wouldn't want to make GW 2 look less active by having even a small percentage of GW 2 players go play some other game. GW 1 already appears to be "dead" and they probably don't think it's worth the effort to change this.

We'll know soon enough just how much Arena-Net cares about GW around April 28th.

I dont think you will have to wait that long---tomorrow will tell a lot-----if they dont do anything new for april fools day (just the same stupid 'quests' from the last 2 years) or something new....if we dont see anything new, dont bother looking for ANYTHING from the birthday, just the same minis again with the same drops from mobs from the previous years. (ss dd).
sad since there is a lot they COULD do (and bring MORE revenue to BOTH games) but most companies are too short sighted to see beyond the end of the quarter revenue and ncsoft has shown that on more than one occasion.

Geesh, i thought that no one would have such low esteem about the idea.

I mean even if doesn't work, we would just get our money back like most of the project tha fail. Like I said earlier there is no potential threat to us or ArenaNet for that matter.

I have my doubts that we need approval of them (NCSoft or ArenaNet) this needs to be checked out, but even if it does, all we have to do is make this idea reach someone else ears like Gaile so they can just test the soil see if there is demand and also money to do that (remember they won't touch a penny of their own money)

And we would have a revitalized game, by that i mean a complete remake, that would sustain the very core experience of GW1, better graphics more awesome OST, new areas and lores, hell even more classes and so on. Not just some expansion.

We just need some support to get there and if we don't have that in here, believe me, its not going to happen.

I think its totally worth the shot. Put some achievable goals and voilá. Even shitty games (at my opinion) like Star Citizen and Shadowrun Returns made two millions without any sweat. Hell we have a bigger fanbase! That should be easy.

Start at 5,000 grand than 10,000 and so on....Let the fanbase have their chance!

Well thats all i had to say. If you dare to disagree my hands are tied. That's it.

its not that its a bad idea, its that anet has almost completely decided that gw1 never happened. It would be incredibly hard to convince them (and ncsoft) of anything about a game they are trying desperately to forget exists.

I would really like to see more life in this game since it is very much a one of a kind (unlike its supposed sequel), and no matter what they do with gw2 I will not buy it.

I know that. Even though i played this game for 5 yrs straight (2005-2010) i still cannot forget how awesome it was and that makes even more harder to accept how inexplicable is this treatment that they have been giving us since GW2 announcement.

Suppose that we don't need their approval, would you kickstart this thing?!

And also for this to work out we need GW Guru and GW2 Guru to help with advertisement.With 36k (people) we could raise millions easy easy. And that's the average base we have today and if its not its at least the number of people that even not playing anymore would support the idea.

If we need ArenaNet/NCSoft, fine its totally unlikely to happen. But if we don't, why not kick the can and see what happens?!

I can not speak for guru--you would nead Curse approval (Kvinna at least), I just work here
I still play every day and would love to see something done to keep this game alive, if that means helping out, yeah, sure I am in. (financially--I have no job to speak of so-------might be a weee bit more difficult).

Is there any other Kickstarter project that is organized by their fans instead of the company who is actually going to do all the work? And who is going to decide the monetary goal or the incentives to donate more than 1$? How ridiculous would it be to ask people to donate money when we don't even know what Arena-Net is actually willing to add or improve?

Also, there's this (from Kickstarter Guidelines):
Video games are application software.

Just curious, and sorry if this is off-topic, but what do you think would bring more revenue to both games?

Doesn't anyone here find it interesting that big and growing companies can't fund their older games? It's not like Anet has a half dozen games.

Schmerdro that just mean we have to try a little harder. Geez, an open letter made by "all users" at the frontpage of Guild Wars Guru/GW2 Guru would already make such a fuss! They would at least hear us!

Give them the idea and if the officially say no, everybody just move along and hope that there is someone with good sense to make a similar game. If they say yes, hooray! We continue to have a damn good satisfying Hobby!

PS: I had more fun in Random Arena in GW1 than my entire experience in GW2 (6 months) and any other MMORPG.

Why must it be the Guru sites? They're owned by a network that doesn't have interest in the game and many of its staff no longer play. Sites like these either need replacing or their demise to make room for progress and passion. There's Twitter, Facebook, your own blogs, your own sites, and other fan sites.

Sure those options that you mention could help and would be used. But it would be way better if the huge (or used to be) - and only most likely only fanpage site of the game that its still alive - helped.

There is at least 1k of views of this site by week, that would improve spreading the word out. I don't think that i need to explain any further.

PS: Even RAWR site that used to be heated up its totally dead.

I don't mean to sound like a wet blanket but a Kickstarter is pointless for GW. If Arenanet/NCSoft was genuinely interested in promoting this game further, they'd have done so. Instead we are gently being guided away from this game in the form of 100% rehashed events, odd updates and the sudden discontinuing of account recoveries.

They are trying to say it as nicely as possible to move on. This game is nothing more then a HoM link and then they'd prefer you to leave after you've gotten what you wanted from it. If they started promoting GW again by offering expansions or campaigns, they might lose customers for GW2. Arenanet has spent too many years and too much money on GW2 to lose players.

And let's be honest, GW2 can't be doing as well as they claim. I've received several offers to buy the new game on discount, they offer no free trials that I know of (Fear of people realizing the game isn't as good as they claim) and I have far too many people telling me to stay far away from the game.

You could throw 10 million at Arenanet and get nothing out of it.

I'd love to be proven wrong though.

of course its doing well---its almost pay to play now! so yeah, they are doing well--making money, if that is how you define 'good'.

as for what they could do---anything that gives points from one game for the other, for example, a new area that if you vanquish in gw1 will give you say, a minipet or gem or some stupid trinket in gw2 (the aion wings here come to mind). Not going to go into more detail since no one from the dev team can read these forums for ideas----

but there is potential not being used since it has been pointed out, they dont want their now PAYING customers to leave for even a while to play a game they are not making money on any longer.

I have been playing GW2 since its release and have not put a single cent of my own money in the game. Did you know you can use in-game gold to convert into gems to use in the store? Simply saying 'its almost pay to play now' is just someone with preconceived notions.

Arenanet doesn't need a kickstarter for GW1. They need to release the source code so you can host your own GW servers and do what you want to it.

I ride my Pokemon, as has been mentioned before, the developers are very uninterested in GW 1 and are far more concerned with GW 2. I think the best thing that we can do is figure something out that could benefit both games at the same time. We need to think about the unique strengths of each game and make them complement each other. For example, GW 1 can be played like a single-player game, due to heroes and henchmen, while GW 2 requires other real players for most of its content, such as dynamic events and dungeons. GW 1 has a better story and characters but GW 2 has a higher quality and more pervasive voice-acting.

As cosyfiep has said, something similar to the HoM rewards (namely, completing tasks in GW 1 in order to receive bonus skins, pets, or titles in GW 2) might be a solution. But I think we need to find a way to encourage players to be on GW 1 when they feel like playing alone, and gain better rewards in GW 2 for their time spent in GW 1, and still be connected to their friends in GW 2 while playing GW 1. So I guess the only way to do this is to make the GW 1 friends list show the accounts in GW 2. And the purpose of all of this would be to replace some of the boring farming in GW 2 with the varied content and rich story from GW 1.

Anybody know what are some of the more boring chores that players would rather not do in GW 2? Because, for me, that's basically the entire game.

GW 2 allows players to use real life money for in-game gold. And, with a few exceptions, you can buy almost everything with that in-game gold. That, by definition, makes GW 2 pretty close to a pay-to-win game. Just because you're not using it, doesn't mean that other players are doing the same.

Yeah, I totally agree. I can't figure out why A-Net hasn't done this yet.

Sincerely?! I highly doubt that they will ever release the code.

I mean look at how many MMORPG's failed and got shot down, still, their developers didn't gave a shit about realising their code. It doesn't make sense after all. Its like working for free. Why would release something for free if you can't take any benefit afterwards?!

And tbh if they did that, any greatly hosted private server would fill up with tons of people. Do 2 months meta swifts give new items and quests and the game would be alive in a matter of weeks (and that just for the PvP). That's almost a shot at their own feet (ArenaNet).

I say make a good written open letter, have some back up at GWGuru 1 & 2, let the "media" know by putting some articles at N4G and we will have an answer. A deadly or godly one. But at least an answer.

Edit PS: Let the dices roll, don't have anything to lose. There is almost no effort whatsoever.

this is a joke, right? i mean, thinking that GW's lifespan can be seen through a joke event.....

also, anet officially announced that GW gets no more new content, doesnt mean the game is dying
although they COULD do a bit more (and not just once) for GW to let people enjoy it more..... and let others buy it, meaning they get money out of it

anyway, it starts to be a "GW2 gets more attention, so GW is dying" topic.... i mean forum

lets hope they'll eat the words they gave us, and still will give us more, cuz i think that alot of people now refuse to pay anet anything cuz they said GW wont get more content, from now on

meaning they COULD get back on those words, and make people happy in GW, to keep em as customers

lets hope for that to happen