I mean think about it. They would have money to revitalize the game, better graphics, new story, new campaign, FREAKIN SAME MECHANICS and gameplay, along with same PvP system....and they would not have the option to ignore us anymore.
I mean why let the game die when its obvious that there is still a huge public for it?! It's the only game in the genre out there (COOPRPG w/ some elements of MMO).
Guild Wars guru could take the lead, make it and spread all over the internet (also in GW2 forums) and we would wait for the result.
Sincerely it has everything to succeed. And no damage whatsoever.
Just a thought.
Kickstarter for Guild Wars 1? Could Work?
I ride my Pokemon
ACWhammy
I would donate to it because I love this game, but not so sure how much fun new content would be with the low player-base we have now.
Cuilan
I doubt you would get all of that from one Kickstarter. It would and could work, but not if the high ups at Anet look down at the game as stagnate and limited.
I'm fine with another addition of WiK and WoC type content with a skill update or maybe even an elite area.
I'm fine with another addition of WiK and WoC type content with a skill update or maybe even an elite area.
Schmerdro
The most important thing to keep in mind is that we can not do this without the approval of Arena-Net (and, possibly, NCSoft). And seeing as how, about a month ago, they made that bull**** update of giving teleportation the same restrictions as shadow-stepping just one day before Guild Wars was on sale for 30% less, from Feb 22nd until the 25th, (I mean, really, the coincidence is too convenient) I'd say they would prefer everybody forget about the original GW as soon as possible.
This may even make sense when you think that they wouldn't want their player base to be spread out between 2 games. By having most of their "fans" concentrated on one game, they can also concentrate their own resources on that same game, which is also more profitable than its predecessor since it allows players to buy in-game gold with real life money. Furthermore, they wouldn't want to make GW 2 look less active by having even a small percentage of GW 2 players go play some other game. GW 1 already appears to be "dead" and they probably don't think it's worth the effort to change this.
We'll know soon enough just how much Arena-Net cares about GW around April 28th.
This may even make sense when you think that they wouldn't want their player base to be spread out between 2 games. By having most of their "fans" concentrated on one game, they can also concentrate their own resources on that same game, which is also more profitable than its predecessor since it allows players to buy in-game gold with real life money. Furthermore, they wouldn't want to make GW 2 look less active by having even a small percentage of GW 2 players go play some other game. GW 1 already appears to be "dead" and they probably don't think it's worth the effort to change this.
We'll know soon enough just how much Arena-Net cares about GW around April 28th.
cosyfiep
I dont think you will have to wait that long---tomorrow will tell a lot-----if they dont do anything new for april fools day (just the same stupid 'quests' from the last 2 years) or something new....if we dont see anything new, dont bother looking for ANYTHING from the birthday, just the same minis again with the same drops from mobs from the previous years. (ss dd).
sad since there is a lot they COULD do (and bring MORE revenue to BOTH games) but most companies are too short sighted to see beyond the end of the quarter revenue and ncsoft has shown that on more than one occasion.
sad since there is a lot they COULD do (and bring MORE revenue to BOTH games) but most companies are too short sighted to see beyond the end of the quarter revenue and ncsoft has shown that on more than one occasion.
I ride my Pokemon
Geesh, i thought that no one would have such low esteem about the idea.
I mean even if doesn't work, we would just get our money back like most of the project tha fail. Like I said earlier there is no potential threat to us or ArenaNet for that matter.
I have my doubts that we need approval of them (NCSoft or ArenaNet) this needs to be checked out, but even if it does, all we have to do is make this idea reach someone else ears like Gaile so they can just test the soil see if there is demand and also money to do that (remember they won't touch a penny of their own money)
And we would have a revitalized game, by that i mean a complete remake, that would sustain the very core experience of GW1, better graphics more awesome OST, new areas and lores, hell even more classes and so on. Not just some expansion.
We just need some support to get there and if we don't have that in here, believe me, its not going to happen.
I think its totally worth the shot. Put some achievable goals and voilá. Even shitty games (at my opinion) like Star Citizen and Shadowrun Returns made two millions without any sweat. Hell we have a bigger fanbase! That should be easy.
Start at 5,000 grand than 10,000 and so on....Let the fanbase have their chance!
Well thats all i had to say. If you dare to disagree my hands are tied. That's it.
I mean even if doesn't work, we would just get our money back like most of the project tha fail. Like I said earlier there is no potential threat to us or ArenaNet for that matter.
I have my doubts that we need approval of them (NCSoft or ArenaNet) this needs to be checked out, but even if it does, all we have to do is make this idea reach someone else ears like Gaile so they can just test the soil see if there is demand and also money to do that (remember they won't touch a penny of their own money)
And we would have a revitalized game, by that i mean a complete remake, that would sustain the very core experience of GW1, better graphics more awesome OST, new areas and lores, hell even more classes and so on. Not just some expansion.
We just need some support to get there and if we don't have that in here, believe me, its not going to happen.
I think its totally worth the shot. Put some achievable goals and voilá. Even shitty games (at my opinion) like Star Citizen and Shadowrun Returns made two millions without any sweat. Hell we have a bigger fanbase! That should be easy.
Start at 5,000 grand than 10,000 and so on....Let the fanbase have their chance!
Well thats all i had to say. If you dare to disagree my hands are tied. That's it.
cosyfiep
its not that its a bad idea, its that anet has almost completely decided that gw1 never happened. It would be incredibly hard to convince them (and ncsoft) of anything about a game they are trying desperately to forget exists.
I would really like to see more life in this game since it is very much a one of a kind (unlike its supposed sequel), and no matter what they do with gw2 I will not buy it.
I would really like to see more life in this game since it is very much a one of a kind (unlike its supposed sequel), and no matter what they do with gw2 I will not buy it.
I ride my Pokemon
I know that. Even though i played this game for 5 yrs straight (2005-2010) i still cannot forget how awesome it was and that makes even more harder to accept how inexplicable is this treatment that they have been giving us since GW2 announcement.
Suppose that we don't need their approval, would you kickstart this thing?!
And also for this to work out we need GW Guru and GW2 Guru to help with advertisement.With 36k (people) we could raise millions easy easy. And that's the average base we have today and if its not its at least the number of people that even not playing anymore would support the idea.
If we need ArenaNet/NCSoft, fine its totally unlikely to happen. But if we don't, why not kick the can and see what happens?!
Suppose that we don't need their approval, would you kickstart this thing?!
And also for this to work out we need GW Guru and GW2 Guru to help with advertisement.With 36k (people) we could raise millions easy easy. And that's the average base we have today and if its not its at least the number of people that even not playing anymore would support the idea.
If we need ArenaNet/NCSoft, fine its totally unlikely to happen. But if we don't, why not kick the can and see what happens?!
cosyfiep
I can not speak for guru--you would nead Curse approval (Kvinna at least), I just work here 
I still play every day and would love to see something done to keep this game alive, if that means helping out, yeah, sure I am in. (financially--I have no job to speak of so-------might be a weee bit more difficult).
I still play every day and would love to see something done to keep this game alive, if that means helping out, yeah, sure I am in. (financially--I have no job to speak of so-------might be a weee bit more difficult).
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sad since there is a lot they COULD do (and bring MORE revenue to BOTH games)
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Cuilan
Doesn't anyone here find it interesting that big and growing companies can't fund their older games? It's not like Anet has a half dozen games.
I ride my Pokemon
Schmerdro that just mean we have to try a little harder. Geez, an open letter made by "all users" at the frontpage of Guild Wars Guru/GW2 Guru would already make such a fuss! They would at least hear us!
Give them the idea and if the officially say no, everybody just move along and hope that there is someone with good sense to make a similar game. If they say yes, hooray! We continue to have a damn good satisfying Hobby!
PS: I had more fun in Random Arena in GW1 than my entire experience in GW2 (6 months) and any other MMORPG.
Give them the idea and if the officially say no, everybody just move along and hope that there is someone with good sense to make a similar game. If they say yes, hooray! We continue to have a damn good satisfying Hobby!
PS: I had more fun in Random Arena in GW1 than my entire experience in GW2 (6 months) and any other MMORPG.
Cuilan
Why must it be the Guru sites? They're owned by a network that doesn't have interest in the game and many of its staff no longer play. Sites like these either need replacing or their demise to make room for progress and passion. There's Twitter, Facebook, your own blogs, your own sites, and other fan sites.
I ride my Pokemon
Sure those options that you mention could help and would be used. But it would be way better if the huge (or used to be) - and only most likely only fanpage site of the game that its still alive - helped.
There is at least 1k of views of this site by week, that would improve spreading the word out. I don't think that i need to explain any further.
PS: Even RAWR site that used to be heated up its totally dead.
There is at least 1k of views of this site by week, that would improve spreading the word out. I don't think that i need to explain any further.
PS: Even RAWR site that used to be heated up its totally dead.
jayson
I don't mean to sound like a wet blanket but a Kickstarter is pointless for GW. If Arenanet/NCSoft was genuinely interested in promoting this game further, they'd have done so. Instead we are gently being guided away from this game in the form of 100% rehashed events, odd updates and the sudden discontinuing of account recoveries.
They are trying to say it as nicely as possible to move on. This game is nothing more then a HoM link and then they'd prefer you to leave after you've gotten what you wanted from it. If they started promoting GW again by offering expansions or campaigns, they might lose customers for GW2. Arenanet has spent too many years and too much money on GW2 to lose players.
And let's be honest, GW2 can't be doing as well as they claim. I've received several offers to buy the new game on discount, they offer no free trials that I know of (Fear of people realizing the game isn't as good as they claim) and I have far too many people telling me to stay far away from the game.
You could throw 10 million at Arenanet and get nothing out of it.
I'd love to be proven wrong though.
They are trying to say it as nicely as possible to move on. This game is nothing more then a HoM link and then they'd prefer you to leave after you've gotten what you wanted from it. If they started promoting GW again by offering expansions or campaigns, they might lose customers for GW2. Arenanet has spent too many years and too much money on GW2 to lose players.
And let's be honest, GW2 can't be doing as well as they claim. I've received several offers to buy the new game on discount, they offer no free trials that I know of (Fear of people realizing the game isn't as good as they claim) and I have far too many people telling me to stay far away from the game.
You could throw 10 million at Arenanet and get nothing out of it.
I'd love to be proven wrong though.
cosyfiep
of course its doing well---its almost pay to play now! so yeah, they are doing well--making money, if that is how you define 'good'.
as for what they could do---anything that gives points from one game for the other, for example, a new area that if you vanquish in gw1 will give you say, a minipet or gem or some stupid trinket in gw2 (the aion wings here come to mind). Not going to go into more detail since no one from the dev team can read these forums for ideas----
but there is potential not being used since it has been pointed out, they dont want their now PAYING customers to leave for even a while to play a game they are not making money on any longer.
as for what they could do---anything that gives points from one game for the other, for example, a new area that if you vanquish in gw1 will give you say, a minipet or gem or some stupid trinket in gw2 (the aion wings here come to mind). Not going to go into more detail since no one from the dev team can read these forums for ideas----
but there is potential not being used since it has been pointed out, they dont want their now PAYING customers to leave for even a while to play a game they are not making money on any longer.
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of course its doing well---its almost pay to play now! so yeah, they are doing well--making money, if that is how you define 'good'.
as for what they could do---anything that gives points from one game for the other, for example, a new area that if you vanquish in gw1 will give you say, a minipet or gem or some stupid trinket in gw2 (the aion wings here come to mind). Not going to go into more detail since no one from the dev team can read these forums for ideas---- but there is potential not being used since it has been pointed out, they dont want their now PAYING customers to leave for even a while to play a game they are not making money on any longer. |
Arenanet doesn't need a kickstarter for GW1. They need to release the source code so you can host your own GW servers and do what you want to it.
Schmerdro
I ride my Pokemon, as has been mentioned before, the developers are very uninterested in GW 1 and are far more concerned with GW 2. I think the best thing that we can do is figure something out that could benefit both games at the same time. We need to think about the unique strengths of each game and make them complement each other. For example, GW 1 can be played like a single-player game, due to heroes and henchmen, while GW 2 requires other real players for most of its content, such as dynamic events and dungeons. GW 1 has a better story and characters but GW 2 has a higher quality and more pervasive voice-acting.
As cosyfiep has said, something similar to the HoM rewards (namely, completing tasks in GW 1 in order to receive bonus skins, pets, or titles in GW 2) might be a solution. But I think we need to find a way to encourage players to be on GW 1 when they feel like playing alone, and gain better rewards in GW 2 for their time spent in GW 1, and still be connected to their friends in GW 2 while playing GW 1. So I guess the only way to do this is to make the GW 1 friends list show the accounts in GW 2. And the purpose of all of this would be to replace some of the boring farming in GW 2 with the varied content and rich story from GW 1.
Anybody know what are some of the more boring chores that players would rather not do in GW 2? Because, for me, that's basically the entire game.
GW 2 allows players to use real life money for in-game gold. And, with a few exceptions, you can buy almost everything with that in-game gold. That, by definition, makes GW 2 pretty close to a pay-to-win game. Just because you're not using it, doesn't mean that other players are doing the same.
Yeah, I totally agree. I can't figure out why A-Net hasn't done this yet.
As cosyfiep has said, something similar to the HoM rewards (namely, completing tasks in GW 1 in order to receive bonus skins, pets, or titles in GW 2) might be a solution. But I think we need to find a way to encourage players to be on GW 1 when they feel like playing alone, and gain better rewards in GW 2 for their time spent in GW 1, and still be connected to their friends in GW 2 while playing GW 1. So I guess the only way to do this is to make the GW 1 friends list show the accounts in GW 2. And the purpose of all of this would be to replace some of the boring farming in GW 2 with the varied content and rich story from GW 1.
Anybody know what are some of the more boring chores that players would rather not do in GW 2? Because, for me, that's basically the entire game.
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I ride my Pokemon
Sincerely?! I highly doubt that they will ever release the code.
I mean look at how many MMORPG's failed and got shot down, still, their developers didn't gave a shit about realising their code. It doesn't make sense after all. Its like working for free. Why would release something for free if you can't take any benefit afterwards?!
And tbh if they did that, any greatly hosted private server would fill up with tons of people. Do 2 months meta swifts give new items and quests and the game would be alive in a matter of weeks (and that just for the PvP). That's almost a shot at their own feet (ArenaNet).
I say make a good written open letter, have some back up at GWGuru 1 & 2, let the "media" know by putting some articles at N4G and we will have an answer. A deadly or godly one. But at least an answer.
Edit PS: Let the dices roll, don't have anything to lose. There is almost no effort whatsoever.
I mean look at how many MMORPG's failed and got shot down, still, their developers didn't gave a shit about realising their code. It doesn't make sense after all. Its like working for free. Why would release something for free if you can't take any benefit afterwards?!
And tbh if they did that, any greatly hosted private server would fill up with tons of people. Do 2 months meta swifts give new items and quests and the game would be alive in a matter of weeks (and that just for the PvP). That's almost a shot at their own feet (ArenaNet).
I say make a good written open letter, have some back up at GWGuru 1 & 2, let the "media" know by putting some articles at N4G and we will have an answer. A deadly or godly one. But at least an answer.
Edit PS: Let the dices roll, don't have anything to lose. There is almost no effort whatsoever.
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I dont think you will have to wait that long---tomorrow will tell a lot-----if they dont do anything new for april fools day (just the same stupid 'quests' from the last 2 years) or something new....if we dont see anything new, dont bother looking for ANYTHING from the birthday, just the same minis again with the same drops from mobs from the previous years. (ss dd).
sad since there is a lot they COULD do (and bring MORE revenue to BOTH games) but most companies are too short sighted to see beyond the end of the quarter revenue and ncsoft has shown that on more than one occasion. |
also, anet officially announced that GW gets no more new content, doesnt mean the game is dying
although they COULD do a bit more (and not just once) for GW to let people enjoy it more..... and let others buy it, meaning they get money out of it
anyway, it starts to be a "GW2 gets more attention, so GW is dying" topic.... i mean forum
lets hope they'll eat the words they gave us, and still will give us more, cuz i think that alot of people now refuse to pay anet anything cuz they said GW wont get more content, from now on
meaning they COULD get back on those words, and make people happy in GW, to keep em as customers
lets hope for that to happen
Razer.blue
IF the kickstarter project is successfull it is free cashing for them so why wouldn't they make another add-on? (A new expension is pointless imo, an add-on would be the best).
I would donate for sure. Also I'd like to help promoting it if you need help.
I would donate for sure. Also I'd like to help promoting it if you need help.
Arkon Necrocannibal
I agree for the open letter.
We have to try at least.
/signed
We have to try at least.
/signed
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this is a joke, right? i mean, thinking that GW's lifespan can be seen through a joke event.....
also, anet officially announced that GW gets no more new content, doesnt mean the game is dying although they COULD do a bit more (and not just once) for GW to let people enjoy it more..... and let others buy it, meaning they get money out of it anyway, it starts to be a "GW2 gets more attention, so GW is dying" topic.... i mean forum lets hope they'll eat the words they gave us, and still will give us more, cuz i think that alot of people now refuse to pay anet anything cuz they said GW wont get more content, from now on meaning they COULD get back on those words, and make people happy in GW, to keep em as customers lets hope for that to happen |
No its not a joke...if they do nothing for april fools day ---a day which they have done quite a lot for in the past including the stupid commando quests (which have almost nothing to do with gw2 really), then we know that they really have no plans for doing anything for gw for quite sometime (if any time). It is a very sad way to show your player base that you simple just dont give a flying *^%*)^$^&*(( about them or the game that they still love and play (some religiously).
I kinda feel like that puppy that parents get their kid for xmas, the kids promise to take care of it, feed it, walk it, yet it grows into a HUGE dog that no one wants to deal with any longer, and winds up being neglected and then dumped at the pound (if the parents are nice--or on the side of the road if they arent). woof
well I think we have our answer...same crummy quest, nothing else (unless someone has found something I have not)...../really sad puppy
I ride my Pokemon
Well we got our answers and believe me even if we did get anything new from 28 April or 1 April that wouldn't mean that they were planning to give us more attention at all (like last update remember?!)
They could be just throwing some bones to keep us calm.
We have to keep in mind that we are at a propitious hour. Making an open letter now would force them to give us an answer with a deadline (April 28). We just have to contemplate/think 323132133123 before making it cuz we have to be really certain of what we are going to demand and what questions need to be answered.
Nevertheless i still vote for giving them the idea of Kickstarting Guild Wars 1.
That would attract more people/more money. Revitalize the whole game (don't think small people, aim higher, lol) and that would bring a lot of newbies that would renew the entire base and give some prosperous years to the game (2005 all over again). Making this "official" by having the dev initiate the project people would feel compelled to help and also had more reliability about it getting done.
Cosyfiep could take a look if his "superiors" are against the idea. And also would be nice to know what he truly think about this usually he has more rounded idea when it comes to Arenanet.
They could be just throwing some bones to keep us calm.
We have to keep in mind that we are at a propitious hour. Making an open letter now would force them to give us an answer with a deadline (April 28). We just have to contemplate/think 323132133123 before making it cuz we have to be really certain of what we are going to demand and what questions need to be answered.
Nevertheless i still vote for giving them the idea of Kickstarting Guild Wars 1.
That would attract more people/more money. Revitalize the whole game (don't think small people, aim higher, lol) and that would bring a lot of newbies that would renew the entire base and give some prosperous years to the game (2005 all over again). Making this "official" by having the dev initiate the project people would feel compelled to help and also had more reliability about it getting done.
Cosyfiep could take a look if his "superiors" are against the idea. And also would be nice to know what he truly think about this usually he has more rounded idea when it comes to Arenanet.
cosyfiep
his? (me lady not guy).
I can ask Kvinna about it, but I have no sway as to what Curse does---
I will ask her---but dont expect much.
I can ask Kvinna about it, but I have no sway as to what Curse does---
I will ask her---but dont expect much.
Improvavel
It will never happen.
You have a better shot at starting a new project to make a new game.
NCSoft is a publisher so it doesn't need kickstarter.
GW1 made $41M in 2005, $52M in 2006, $42M in 2007, $2M in 2008 and after that is marginal.
GW2 made $150M In 2012.
You have a better shot at starting a new project to make a new game.
NCSoft is a publisher so it doesn't need kickstarter.
GW1 made $41M in 2005, $52M in 2006, $42M in 2007, $2M in 2008 and after that is marginal.
GW2 made $150M In 2012.
I ride my Pokemon
Sorry, didn't knew you were a lady :3
Try to be super super persuasive if that doesn't work out fill some reasonableness in their heads. Lol.
PS: but still, wut do you think about this?! From a general perspective.
Try to be super super persuasive if that doesn't work out fill some reasonableness in their heads. Lol.
PS: but still, wut do you think about this?! From a general perspective.
cosyfiep
I believe what pokemon (apology accepted) is trying to do it let anet (ncsoft) realize that guildwars is still a loved game and VERY playable (and profitable if they so desire) and that they are making a mistake by not keeping some kind of interest in it. A letter from the playerbase could tell them that we are still here and that they should keep some fires burning for the game (and not JUST for gw2).
It reminds me of what anets original plan for gw was--back when it all started. You were supposed to LEAVE pre-searing, learn everything in pve and then ALL move over to pvp---didnt happen, there are STILL people in pre-searing (and see they did hear them and made quests just for pre-searing), LOADS of people refuse (for whatever reason) to pvp (me being one) and so they made end-game and elite missions (which were not in prophecies)....so a few (lots) of voices just might kick them in the butt and let them know that we are still here (horton hears a who?) and arent going anywhere anytime soon. (and that there is room for BOTH games!)
nothing may come of it, but at least they will know our position.
It reminds me of what anets original plan for gw was--back when it all started. You were supposed to LEAVE pre-searing, learn everything in pve and then ALL move over to pvp---didnt happen, there are STILL people in pre-searing (and see they did hear them and made quests just for pre-searing), LOADS of people refuse (for whatever reason) to pvp (me being one) and so they made end-game and elite missions (which were not in prophecies)....so a few (lots) of voices just might kick them in the butt and let them know that we are still here (horton hears a who?) and arent going anywhere anytime soon. (and that there is room for BOTH games!)
nothing may come of it, but at least they will know our position.
I ride my Pokemon
There is no acceptance for PvP because the mechanics were not "User-friendly". Also it heavily depended on having a PvP-Based guild to do most of it's modules efficiently (PvP).
There wasn't any incentives for PUG's not even a easy way to form them (a interface just for that would solve many problems) shouting was tiring and not having a good matching system were deterrent. Its not nice to play agains't R8+ people in HA when you are still R3. Its not nice to play against RAWR, tE, WM when you are not even in the ladder. Being a easy bullied prey because of a failed match system just made people depart and forget about PvP once for all.
I'm so telling the truth that most people (even PvE based players) still liked Random Arena and held high Ranking Gladiators tittles. It was the most balanced form of all (until people synchronize to death).
But getting to business, i'm kinda excited to see that the community per se is willing to not let the game die, since its the first and only one of its species. It's like fighting to not let someone kill the last white whale. Save the whale!
There wasn't any incentives for PUG's not even a easy way to form them (a interface just for that would solve many problems) shouting was tiring and not having a good matching system were deterrent. Its not nice to play agains't R8+ people in HA when you are still R3. Its not nice to play against RAWR, tE, WM when you are not even in the ladder. Being a easy bullied prey because of a failed match system just made people depart and forget about PvP once for all.
I'm so telling the truth that most people (even PvE based players) still liked Random Arena and held high Ranking Gladiators tittles. It was the most balanced form of all (until people synchronize to death).
But getting to business, i'm kinda excited to see that the community per se is willing to not let the game die, since its the first and only one of its species. It's like fighting to not let someone kill the last white whale. Save the whale!
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It will never happen.
You have a better shot at starting a new project to make a new game. NCSoft is a publisher so it doesn't need kickstarter. GW1 made $41M in 2005, $52M in 2006, $42M in 2007, $2M in 2008 and after that is marginal. GW2 made $150M In 2012. |
They shot themselves in the foot when they released eye saying that they were giving up on guildwars to make guildwars 2--which took them longer than they had expected (and still isnt quite ready for release). IF they had waited to release the we are making a new game-dont bother playing the original or buying anything for it- bombshell, they could have made a lot more off of guildwars. THEY STILL CAN.
Guildwars 2 is a TOTALLY DIFFERNT KIND OF GAME! They are making money off of more than just the basic purchase of the game (and speaking of--just what was the cost of the uberspecial editions?? more than the CE from the original prophecies!--so just on that alone they made more), they are making money off the cash store since people's 'gotta have it NOW' attitude is being played to as well.
I ride my Pokemon
Lets put in a really really bad scenario into our minds just to have a parameter:
1) They said in interviews that it was extremely easy to create content for GW because they had all the tools since the "development was long ago complete".
2) If they did a whole lot of content, A WHOLE LOT, that would take at most 4 months of hard work at most, which would not cost for the company more than 50k.
3) If they put this new content for...lets say $49 and then sell 30,000 copies which is extremely reasonable they would have an income of 1.470.000,00 dollars (not even a gout of sweat for that revenue) If they sell 200,000 copies which is likely to happen since most of users comeback to play this game and thats been proven and happening for almost 6 yrs straight they would had 10 million bucks. Yep. 10 millions bucks.
Now if it was "remade" Guild Wars 1 game, you could easily throw 400,000 copies at worst scenario and gezus do the math.
4) Now take it for granted what ArenaNet could do with 500 grand of a Kickstart project?! Hell they don't even need the money. It's just lack of perspective. They don't believe in their own "child".
5) What realistic they have to lose?! Absolutely nothing.
Its so freaking easy to rehash guild wars that even users have done that with mods. Its kinda absurd thinking that it would not succeed.
1) They said in interviews that it was extremely easy to create content for GW because they had all the tools since the "development was long ago complete".
2) If they did a whole lot of content, A WHOLE LOT, that would take at most 4 months of hard work at most, which would not cost for the company more than 50k.
3) If they put this new content for...lets say $49 and then sell 30,000 copies which is extremely reasonable they would have an income of 1.470.000,00 dollars (not even a gout of sweat for that revenue) If they sell 200,000 copies which is likely to happen since most of users comeback to play this game and thats been proven and happening for almost 6 yrs straight they would had 10 million bucks. Yep. 10 millions bucks.
Now if it was "remade" Guild Wars 1 game, you could easily throw 400,000 copies at worst scenario and gezus do the math.
4) Now take it for granted what ArenaNet could do with 500 grand of a Kickstart project?! Hell they don't even need the money. It's just lack of perspective. They don't believe in their own "child".
5) What realistic they have to lose?! Absolutely nothing.
Its so freaking easy to rehash guild wars that even users have done that with mods. Its kinda absurd thinking that it would not succeed.
Kvinna
Unfortunately I don't think Anet keeps their eye on either Guru site very much. If you wanted to bring awareness to both communities, well, you've already done it here and a thread in Gamer's or MI on GW2Guru would work there. Other than that, my suggestions are to contact ArenaNet directly and tweet some of the big gaming media sites, GW fansites, and Anet themselves and ask for retweets. Try using a unique hashtag so that Anet can see how many people are talking about it.
I ride my Pokemon
Kvinna, would you mind to give us your personal view on this?
PS: I don't use twitter, i'm kinda frump to this new stuff. I only use FB and still its not really mine, i use my dogs as "figurehead" (A Britanny Spaniel and a Golden). But hey, what did you mean by Arenanet Directly?! Its just suggestions or you mean something else?! :3
PS: I don't use twitter, i'm kinda frump to this new stuff. I only use FB and still its not really mine, i use my dogs as "figurehead" (A Britanny Spaniel and a Golden). But hey, what did you mean by Arenanet Directly?! Its just suggestions or you mean something else?! :3
Arkon Necrocannibal
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Unfortunately I don't think Anet keeps their eye on either Guru site very much.
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I've just written a comment on their Facebook page:
http://www.facebook.com/GuildWars
Last comment by Mathieu Mailhos (me) is talking about this Guru subject and the other one (Dev and GW1). I really hope that they will see our conversations.
I can't do much but at least I want to try. GW is like a part of my life for 7 years and I don't want it to die.
Edit: English is not my native speaking language so sorry for my mistake and if I didn't explain all very well
I ride my Pokemon
That's actually great Arkon.
I mean we shouldn't make a move right now but that's the freakin spirit that i want to see. I feel like we are going to achieve something. If not something "life saving" at least we are going to produce some "waves". Indeed social networks are a way to go, they feel unquiet when they see people gathering at their page. Its a nice way to get a quick answer.
But there is some need to make something more organized. Will see. Schmerdro seems to be scheming something up, he has been here on the thread for awhile. Amaze me. Lol.
I mean we shouldn't make a move right now but that's the freakin spirit that i want to see. I feel like we are going to achieve something. If not something "life saving" at least we are going to produce some "waves". Indeed social networks are a way to go, they feel unquiet when they see people gathering at their page. Its a nice way to get a quick answer.
But there is some need to make something more organized. Will see. Schmerdro seems to be scheming something up, he has been here on the thread for awhile. Amaze me. Lol.
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you are still missing the point, the last time they did anything for gw was eye in 2007? since then nada. IF they did an expansion (similar to eye for example) they could make another what 42M???
They shot themselves in the foot when they released eye saying that they were giving up on guildwars to make guildwars 2--which took them longer than they had expected (and still isnt quite ready for release). IF they had waited to release the we are making a new game-dont bother playing the original or buying anything for it- bombshell, they could have made a lot more off of guildwars. THEY STILL CAN. Guildwars 2 is a TOTALLY DIFFERNT KIND OF GAME! They are making money off of more than just the basic purchase of the game (and speaking of--just what was the cost of the uberspecial editions?? more than the CE from the original prophecies!--so just on that alone they made more), they are making money off the cash store since people's 'gotta have it NOW' attitude is being played to as well. |
They will probably sell 2M GW2 copies of an expansion so that is $80M.
Plus Cash shop.
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No way they going to make $42M now.
They will probably sell 2M GW2 copies of an expansion so that is $80M. Plus Cash shop. |
I think we have made a big enough noise here, anyone who wants can do so on gw2 guru (as Kvinna suggested) as well as the other sites---I dont get to many other sites anymore and I dont do the facebot or twit thing (heck, I dont even own a cell phone!), but I will help here anyways I can.
xgottadollax
I'm all for Gw1 expansion, but I don't see why, when they can make 3x the money with a GW2 expansion whenever they decide to announce it.
I love GW1, I still prefer it over GW2, but all biased opinions aside, its common sense, GW2 brings in a lot more money than GW1 ever will. Business is business.
Gw2 made more money in half a year than Gw1 ever did in its 7-8 year span.
I love GW1, I still prefer it over GW2, but all biased opinions aside, its common sense, GW2 brings in a lot more money than GW1 ever will. Business is business.
Gw2 made more money in half a year than Gw1 ever did in its 7-8 year span.
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Lets put in a really really bad scenario into our minds just to have a parameter:
1) They said in interviews that it was extremely easy to create content for GW because they had all the tools since the "development was long ago complete". 2) If they did a whole lot of content, A WHOLE LOT, that would take at most 4 months of hard work at most, which would not cost for the company more than 50k. 3) If they put this new content for...lets say $49 and then sell 30,000 copies which is extremely reasonable they would have an income of 1.470.000,00 dollars (not even a gout of sweat for that revenue) If they sell 200,000 copies which is likely to happen since most of users comeback to play this game and thats been proven and happening for almost 6 yrs straight they would had 10 million bucks. Yep. 10 millions bucks. Now if it was "remade" Guild Wars 1 game, you could easily throw 400,000 copies at worst scenario and gezus do the math. 4) Now take it for granted what ArenaNet could do with 500 grand of a Kickstart project?! Hell they don't even need the money. It's just lack of perspective. They don't believe in their own "child". 5) What realistic they have to lose?! Absolutely nothing. Its so freaking easy to rehash guild wars that even users have done that with mods. Its kinda absurd thinking that it would not succeed. |
Improvavel
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probably right, they wouldnt make that much, but I know LOADS of gamers who would come back for another expansion for guildwars. (and just when is that gw2 expansion coming out? Have they fixed everything they said the were going to have done when it first came out yet?)
I think we have made a big enough noise here, anyone who wants can do so on gw2 guru (as Kvinna suggested) as well as the other sites---I dont get to many other sites anymore and I dont do the facebot or twit thing (heck, I dont even own a cell phone!), but I will help here anyways I can. |
Also big april fools update with some 8bits goodness. https://www.guildwars2.com/en/the-ga...es/april-2013/
Expansion is rumoured end of year begging of next year.
I don't know if that is big noise when compared to the 10000 post in under 1 day thread complaining about ascended items.