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Gli

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

25 Jan 2006 at 15:23 - 81

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilentAssassin

And don't come with this bs that I dont know what ppl do with their green items, cmn you see trade chat flooding with green items. 90% of the ppl who farm greens do this to sell them (yes when I find a green item I sell it unless I can use it)

Well... I don't know if it's 90%, but...

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When you will get a green drop like victos blade, you probably will sell it, are happy for 1 day and the next day your farming again and you will be complaining for not having a drop...

You were talking to us, your fellow posters on this thread, not about the general GW populace. You didn't just say 'we' sell our greens, you said 'we' sell our greens and then come crying on the forum if our next run doesn't give us a drop. Challenging that wasn't BS. What I challenged was YOUR bs assumption.

War Hound

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2006

minnesota

none

R/Mo

25 Jan 2006 at 15:25 - 82

everyone complains about the price drops on these items because there are so many framers selling these green/gold items...but yet everyone also complains that each person in a group shoul get atleast one good drop per run but if that were to happen then what would be the need in selling these items at all for everyone in the game who could would have these items flood the market in game and items are worth nothing to anyone so you still have wasted your time in that area framing for these items....i like some of the others here play for fun not in game wealth...i could care less what i get for drops.. is nice to get a good one but still dont care if i do or not...i have been framing UW for months and i have only gotten 1 ecto and a couple of golds from the chest there....if ya ask me i think they should reduce the drop percent and not give out as many green or gold items....then prices go back up an for those who value wealth can work for it....but thats just my thoughts

MrBugs

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

25 Jan 2006 at 15:51 - 83

How much different are the green in UW than the greens in SF? I can't remember but I think I got a bow with the same stats as that from SF.

Sofonisba

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Tucson, AZ

The Black Hand Gang [BHG] and The Black Helm Gang [BHeG]

25 Jan 2006 at 16:02 - 84

The people who say the drop distribution should stay the same, are the ones who actually get something once in a while.

Try doing that run three times *MONKING* over the course of a few days, get nothing as reward, everyone else getting multiples.... then get back to me, okay?

BTW, the word "rant" is actually in the title of this thread. So this actually happens to be the perfect and only place for losers like me to come and complain. If you don't want to hear the whiners, go to another thread.

(Last night finally got a drop - Victo's Blade - was going to swear off the place forever more if I didn't get anything. Now I'm allowed to go back again. That was the fourth green drop I've gotten in my entire lifetime.)

Zephyr Jackson

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Kansas

E/Mo

25 Jan 2006 at 16:17 - 85

Can anyone post a SS of the Bosses?, i havent found a group good enough to get to the last level.

aron searle

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/

25 Jan 2006 at 16:32 - 86

Quote:

Originally Posted by generik

Actually you can.. 5 encrusted lodestones.

For a 15^50 Axe?

are you sure because all the lists point to it being enchanted or in stance, provide a screen shot of the location please.

Yes rather anal of me, but severl people have claimed the same in the past to be found out as liars.

It has either been changed, or your mistaken, if your telling the truth apoligies in advance, if your fibbing go away.

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Originally Posted by Tijger

I said better then 99.9% of the drops you get and I stand by that, I've never actually had any of the items you want drop for me in well over 1000 hours of play so in this case I could even say 100%

[QUOTE=Tijger]You can get weapons and items from collectors which are better then 99.9% of the stuff that drops for free (well nearly free anyway), so you can always get the items you need or want basically.[/QUOTE]

Hmmm your quote in full

Im confused as to your point then, what you said (the part in bold) is that i can get the items i need or want from collecters.

which is false.

And to point out to people again i never asked for an increased drop rate, but it is unfair to see 3 greens go to once person whilst others get 0, i dont want increased but fairer drops.

Mustache Mayhem

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

BEN

R/N

25 Jan 2006 at 17:13 - 87

actually aron there is collector for just about anything you could want.. and you can mod and dye collectors items too but you can't salvage the mods back.. check drokars weapons crafter for some great stuff too

Meo Yeong

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Canada Eh!

Test

Mo/E

25 Jan 2006 at 17:14 - 88

I gave up on farming them when in 7 runs in a row as a healing monk I got one crap pillar.

Not even worth my time or work to go in to try and get them.

They should have had a chest at the end and everyone gets a random green to make it fair. They say this game is based on a reward system but I dont see it. Also a person getting 2-3 of them when its a group effort is just bull.

Mustache Mayhem

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

BEN

R/N

25 Jan 2006 at 17:18 - 89

hehe no doubt meo =] esp on a run that long

led-zep

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

25 Jan 2006 at 17:19 - 90

i have collecters weapons for everything i need apart from an axe which is why im glad i have victos axe. the reason for this is there is not 15^50 axe from a collecter that i have found/seen/read about.

Mustache Mayhem

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

BEN

R/N

25 Jan 2006 at 17:23 - 91

I'm positive there is.. there was site I had bookmarked on my old comp that had all of the collectors listed- more than likely it was in mineral springs or the desert.. I'll try and find that listing again (got new comp and lost all that old info)

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

25 Jan 2006 at 17:23 - 92

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meo Yeong

They say this game is based on a reward system but I dont see it. Also a person getting 2-3 of them when its a group effort is just bull.

it is RANDOM

what you want is special olympics trick or treat.

everybody is a winner.

here is one for you and one for you and one for you...................

if is bull do something else(yes i saw that you stopped so dont bother saying so)

War Hound

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2006

minnesota

none

R/Mo

25 Jan 2006 at 17:29 - 93

well lets think about this.... if ur monking and getting nothing and everyone else is get stuff whats the problem... is it maybe you should consider a change of professions...btw way i can read and i know what the thread is for i was just giving my thoughts it is a forum right thats what you do

Mustache Mayhem

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

BEN

R/N

25 Jan 2006 at 18:10 - 94

Quote:

Originally Posted by led-zep

i have collecters weapons for everything i need apart from an axe which is why im glad i have victos axe. the reason for this is there is not 15^50 axe from a collecter that i have found/seen/read about.

could'nt find the list.. but I found pretty complete one here http://www.mmorpgitalia.it/forum/arc...p/t-67650.html

the axe can be crafted though in drokars for a little money

snapp

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

W/

25 Jan 2006 at 18:30 - 95

Quote:

Originally Posted by War Hound

well lets think about this.... if ur monking and getting nothing and everyone else is get stuff whats the problem... is it maybe you should consider a change of professions...btw way i can read and i know what the thread is for i was just giving my thoughts it is a forum right thats what you do

wtf?..why should you have to change your profession to get a drop?..aren't you working just as hard if not a little bit harder than the others in the group?

I've done three runs, on my first run I got my first EVER neterr 7 on the courtyard level, that made me bitter, second run, my GW game locked for the first time ever..ok still bitter, lets try again another night, third great PUG in a row, I felt really bad about getting booted from the previous two PUGS because they were good as well. Everyone is working out great, we are cracking jokes having fun, making our way through, chests = purple then we defeat the darknesses later and the other tank besides myself gets the pillar and the axe, I get nothing and the monks get nothing...extreme bitterness...the timer starts ticking and we are subjected to "woooo AXE, I got the AXE, third time I get the AXE..W00000" for the next 30 seconds or whatever it is....I really enjoyed playing with the guy and even gave him candy canes for free when he died, but my longsword was begging to be plunged through his neck at that moment.

ohhhh but I did get a req 13 purple falchion though so yay me.

I think it's funny how Anet wants group play, but all the richest most furtile spots are easily solo farmable, then they create this new UW where pretty much you HAVE to go in a group and then they send you to Raven staff hell.

*Rant gone...calmness returning...serenity now*

Mustache Mayhem

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

BEN

R/N

25 Jan 2006 at 18:38 - 96

lol I feel you snapp.. think if they increased the drop rate so more drop it'd fix the problem- that chest idea mentioned earlier is'nt bad either.. everyone opens a chest at the end with a green.. I mean 2 hours is extreme to basically get nothing- time's better spent in other areas right now if your skilled (droks run, solo toa uw)

mikysee

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

25 Jan 2006 at 18:54 - 97

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilentAssassin

well I just did my first tomb run and everybody in the party got a green one and some got even 2... so I don't see the problem here, and yes I've red the thread.

I thought there is a max of 3 drops per run. Unless if there is only 2 people in your party, how did everyone get one and some got 2?

Bale_Shadowscar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Manchester, England

New Dragons [NDR]

25 Jan 2006 at 18:59 - 98

Quote:

Originally Posted by War Hound

everyone complains about the price drops on these items because there are so many framers selling these green/gold items...but yet everyone also complains that each person in a group shoul get atleast one good drop per run but if that were to happen then what would be the need in selling these items at all for everyone in the game who could would have these items flood the market in game and items are worth nothing to anyone so you still have wasted your time in that area framing for these items....

Very True. Read that people. It is these 'unfair' drop rates you're complaining about that is the reason you're farming. If everyone on a run got a drop, then prices would drop very rapidly, since everyone would have them. If 3 drop for one person, then he can sell them for a lot, however if one dropped for everybody, then when you actually got one, you wouldn't be able to sell it for as much at all, since the chances are a lot of other people would already have it, because it dropped for them too, thus defeating the whole point of farming in the first place.

Green weapons are meant to be powerful, rare, highly sought after weapons, named after legendary heroes (in this case Kings) and so are meant to be rare.

As for one person getting more than one, think about it this way: give 10 children one sweet each, and they won't be able to sell them between each other, as they'll all already have one. Give one of the 10 all the sweets instead, and he makes a load. Chances are that YOU are going to be that one kid someday, so don't complain.

Hope this post made sense

Rehevkor

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

Blue Note Cafe

W/R

25 Jan 2006 at 19:15 - 99

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Jazzy

they wanted this part of the game to be challenging/frustrating

Any developer that wants something to be frustrating shouldn't be trusted to write a notepad clone, let alone a game. Games are about having fun; fun and frustration are mutually exclusive states of mind. Challenge is fine; I would like the new tombs just fine on that basis alone. But challenge without a reward is frustrating, which is why I've sworn off ever going back to the damn place again unless everyone in the team gets some kind of reward (and no, salvage from random drops doesn't count. I can get that from trolls MUCH easier). Six runs with nothing to show for it is too much.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bale_Shadowscar

since everyone would have them

You're assuming that everyone actually visits the new tombs, and that everyone reaches the end. Both of these premises are not necessarily true. In fact, I would venture to say that only a small portion of the GW community has bothered with the place. Even those that do aren't likely to succeed. Pick-up groups there tend to die in the second area most of the time, and most people probably give up after a few team wipes. Like I said, frustration without reward is no fun.

Gli

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

25 Jan 2006 at 19:20 - 100

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loviatar

it is RANDOM

Yes, it is. But should it be as random as it is? Wouldn't it be better if, when X number of random special items drop, they get distributed randomly but evenly over Y number of players so that no one will have 2 before everyone has 1? Here X may even be smaller than Y, so there's no absolute guarantee of a drop, but people will be spared to witness their fellows pick up 3 when they get none. That's still pretty random, but less annoying.

The people really hurt by the way it works now are the casual players, the ones that don't run in highly efficient 'area cleaning machine' builds. The PUG players that can't even finish the area 1 out of 3 attempts. The ones who can't even try to finish the 4 areas on a regular basis, because they can't play 4 hours straight that often. (Some groups take 4-5 hours to clean the place out.) When a game stops being fun to many people, you have to start wondering if the 'it's random!' stance is such a good idea.

The farmers, when they don't get a drop, they just grin and bear it, and have another go. These areas are, unlike what the majority of posts seem to suggest, farmer friendly and ONLY farmer friendly.

Also, I don't see how it isn't obvious that there should be a system that goes some way to rewarding people more equally for an equal, shared accomplishment. Did 'skill over time played' get tossed out of the window? How is equal distribution of loot in PvE any different than equal distribution of fame/faction after a victorious PvP battle?

Perhaps having specific mobs dropping specific items isn't such a good idea to begin with if you're going to assign them randomly.

But yeah, it's random.

sun is in us

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Organic Soup

Of the Day

Me/

25 Jan 2006 at 19:27 - 101

Being able to change looting schedule is a feature in several games.....the choice to change it to Round Robin (in absence of an absolute "no" by ANET or code-wise) should be added to this game.

Ayres_Spellbinder

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

Atlanta, GA

Grimmwulfs Raiders

Me/E

25 Jan 2006 at 19:32 - 102

No one here knows what frustrating is. I had a green drop and the Necros Minions blocked me in and i didn't get to it before the time ran out. That pissed me off to no end.

SilentAssassin

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Belgium

Remnants of Ascalon, KT alliance

R/N

25 Jan 2006 at 20:54 - 103

max 3?? can't be, we were with 5 in a team and everybody atleast got one...

maybe you mean max is 3 each boss...

generik

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

25 Jan 2006 at 21:08 - 104

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bale_Shadowscar

As for one person getting more than one, think about it this way: give 10 children one sweet each, and they won't be able to sell them between each other, as they'll all already have one. Give one of the 10 all the sweets instead, and he makes a load. Chances are that YOU are going to be that one kid someday, so don't complain.

This is a load of rubbish, give all sweets to one of the kids, and the other 9 will plot against him and "Oh! No heal!!", "Rez me now!!!"

And isn't this supposed to be a team game? Tell me, why is a TEAM game supposed to be unfair?

Big_Iron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

The Edge

Tormented Weapons [emo]

25 Jan 2006 at 21:14 - 105

It's been said, but I feel it needs repeating. If everyone got a Green drop everytime and it was easy, then they wouldn't be rare drops and wouldn't be worth poo. And before someone says, "oh yeah, that's from someone who's prolly been getting lots of green," I've only gotten ONE out of about 5 trips and it wasn't even a great one.

snapp

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

W/

25 Jan 2006 at 21:23 - 106

Quote:

Originally Posted by WoodyDotNet

It's been said, but I feel it needs repeating. If everyone got a Green drop everytime and it was easy, then they wouldn't be rare drops and wouldn't be worth poo. And before someone says, "oh yeah, that's from someone who's prolly been getting lots of green," I've only gotten ONE out of about 5 trips and it wasn't even a great one.

thats the point, it's not easy. It's two hours that someone spent trying to get this accomplishment and then have that time wasted with nothing to show for it. The reward is what drives people to do these quests, if you are one of the few people who are all "blah blah, I like the challenge don't need the reward" then you have no place in this thread. After completing the 4 levels and beating the bosses, the players deserve a reward for a job well done. Yes I said DESERVE because it's true.

Sereng Amaranth

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Amazon Basin [AB]

25 Jan 2006 at 21:24 - 107

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ayres_Spellbinder

No one here knows what frustrating is. I had a green drop and the Necros Minions blocked me in and i didn't get to it before the time ran out. That pissed me off to no end.

Our arrogant MM does that also. I don't party with him on the new Tombs anymore. I am NOT gonna lose an axe because he's busy claiming how he 'pooned the darkness'.

generik

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

25 Jan 2006 at 21:35 - 108

Quote:

Originally Posted by WoodyDotNet

It's been said, but I feel it needs repeating. If everyone got a Green drop everytime and it was easy, then they wouldn't be rare drops and wouldn't be worth poo. And before someone says, "oh yeah, that's from someone who's prolly been getting lots of green," I've only gotten ONE out of about 5 trips and it wasn't even a great one.

Hello pal, nobody said anything about everyone getting a drop each time.

What really RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOs people up is HOW it is possible for multiple items to drop "which your party reserves for XXX" while someone else gets none.

Either get rid of the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing wording and reword it into something else, or introduce a more transparent drop allocation process. This current one is making me sick

Gli

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

25 Jan 2006 at 21:40 - 109

Quote:

Originally Posted by WoodyDotNet

It's been said, but I feel it needs repeating. If everyone got a Green drop everytime and it was easy, then they wouldn't be rare drops and wouldn't be worth poo. And before someone says, "oh yeah, that's from someone who's prolly been getting lots of green," I've only gotten ONE out of about 5 trips and it wasn't even a great one.

But they aren't rare drops to begin with! They're the most reliably common drops in the whole game. The only reason they have any value at all is the relatively steep amount of time it takes to get them coupled with the lottery aspect of their distribution. On the one hand we have people who got lucky within the first few days of their introduction, who made hundreds of platinum off them. On the other hand, we still have people who started playing the areas at the same time, who by now made twice or maybe three times the effort and still have to get their first drop. And when they do finally get something, it won't be a rare item anymore, because the market is already flooded with them.

The commonness of these items is why people are frustrated at not getting them, not their rarity.

CKaz

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2005

25 Jan 2006 at 21:57 - 110

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mustache Mayhem

the axe can be crafted though in drokars for a little money

no you CAN'T. gaaah people read. 15% while enchanted in drok, NOT 15^50.

SilentAssassin

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Belgium

Remnants of Ascalon, KT alliance

R/N

25 Jan 2006 at 22:18 - 111

well you think of a better item engine, maybe like diablo

killing a boss, everybody stands next to him when he is gonna die everybody stops attacking and starts clicking a million of times to get as many items.. that better?? no

I love the drop engine, if you got bad luck.. well thats life

Deathqueen

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

25 Jan 2006 at 22:26 - 112

Woohoo first time ever in new UW and I got two greens. Victo's Shield and Maul!! (dances around forum). I love the way stuff drops. (smile) The shield is to die for and the maul looks keen, great for hammer warriors. Shield is Black with emblems and a slight light outline of them. It is like the most awesome lookin shield in the game.

Rehevkor

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

Blue Note Cafe

W/R

25 Jan 2006 at 23:19 - 113

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deathqueen

Woohoo first time ever in new UW and I got two greens. Victo's Shield and Maul!! (dances around forum). I love the way stuff drops. (smile) The shield is to die for and the maul looks keen, great for hammer warriors. Shield is Black with emblems and a slight light outline of them. It is like the most awesome lookin shield in the game.

Just curious... what does this have to do with the topic of discussion here?

aron searle

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/

25 Jan 2006 at 23:32 - 114

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mustache Mayhem

could'nt find the list.. but I found pretty complete one here http://www.mmorpgitalia.it/forum/arc...p/t-67650.html

the axe can be crafted though in drokars for a little money

As someone else said read it thourouly

and check drokners

there is NO 15^50 axe at droks its +15 enchanted
The desert and shiverpeak collectors only do stance and enchanted as well

Its the same for the flatbow which i wanted for my ranger, there is enchanted and stance. there is NO 15^50 flatbow to be had from droks or collectors (only longbow / short / composite).

Quote:

I'm positive there is.. there was site I had bookmarked on my old comp that had all of the collectors listed- more than likely it was in mineral springs or the desert.. I'll try and find that listing again (got new comp and lost all that old info)

There is a collector location thread on this forum in quest discussion i think. there is a link in there that shows all collectro weopons and what they need. no 15^50 axe/flatbow is listed, or a sheild -2 +45 enchanted (again stanced or hexed only) or a holy rod with +5 energy (max damage, not the nolani one), no rod that +20 protective recharge but required heal or divine (a strange combo yes), there is no collector rod giving 10+ recharge for skills for all classes, there is no ect ect ect ect.

My point being you cant get all you want from collectors, as someone tried to say.

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max 3?? can't be, we were with 5 in a team and everybody atleast got one...

maybe you mean max is 3 each boss...

No, what i meant is that 3 greens all dropped for 1 person, whilst some got 0.

Im not asking for more green drops AT ALL, but that they are distributed. Its still luck if enough drop for everyone, and its still luck which one you get, cant see a problem with that.

Deathqueen

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

25 Jan 2006 at 23:39 - 115

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rehevkor

Just curious... what does this have to do with the topic of discussion here?

Well it's a rants thread about drops in the new UW. I merely added my rave to the rants, to "balance" things out. Since everything about GW's is supposed to be balanced correct? (smile) And I still love my new shield (still dancing around forum).

Sid Doog

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

DR (Drunkin Rangers)

E/Me

25 Jan 2006 at 23:49 - 116

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilentAssassin

max 3?? can't be, we were with 5 in a team and everybody atleast got one...

maybe you mean max is 3 each boss...

6 greens drop atleast all the time max is 9, i have only seen that 2 times and i have completed this 10 times now

generik

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

26 Jan 2006 at 01:14 - 117

Quote:

Originally Posted by aron searle

As someone else said read it thourouly

and check drokners

there is NO 15^50 axe at droks its +15 enchanted
The desert and shiverpeak collectors only do stance and enchanted as well

Its the same for the flatbow which i wanted for my ranger, there is enchanted and stance. there is NO 15^50 flatbow to be had from droks or collectors (only longbow / short / composite).

Well, my bad, I did mix up the requirements, but the point remains, collectors give the best items.

Who lead you to believe that a 15^50 is indeed the best requirement to die for? Your life is probably below 50 half of the time! And if you are not in a stance always, then I'd suggest you delete your Waahhh Moooh

=HT=Ingram

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2005

Anchorage Alaska

Haz Team [HT]

R/W

26 Jan 2006 at 02:32 - 118

farmed to death already... wow took SF area a week to cause the greens to decrease exponentially.. Its a shame but I foresee very soon a 3 hr+ run yielding a grand total of 1 green drop for the entire party... All because of the Thousands of farming runs an hour... go figure... I still like that this is a Green Run that is EARNed and not easily obtained... the fact that the drops are reducing is really good cause people will soon give up on it in the numbers that are going right now. are many of these people using what they find? NO thats evident on the sales that are transpiring in auction pages and in game... So the fact that those people are less likely to get such an item in another run is very pleasing to me.

In fact I think it would be IDEAL if ALL characters would have the ability to get every green item drop for them once. and once only... Boy that would solve TONS of problems...

Sir Skullcrasher

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

15 over 50 [Rare]

W/Mo

26 Jan 2006 at 03:56 - 119

I agree the drop rate sucked ( i sat through 2 hours once only to get nothing but Millus Eye while someone got both Battle Axe and Shadowblade) But peoples, its just a new area for peoples to enjoy granted it take 2 hours or more to reach the bosses and get (hopefully) some greens but its design to be challenging and fun for the team. Beside these new greens are the flavors of the month and wait till chapter 2 is released with more new greens than no one will even bother to come here. I been through 4 failed attempt to get into tomb (once we're in level 4 and i did a bad pull and got two groups to rush us and we died) But its all about luck, sometime you get those great pug team going and than get something at the end, sometime you get nada.

Big_Iron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

The Edge

Tormented Weapons [emo]

26 Jan 2006 at 03:56 - 120

Quote:

Originally Posted by snapp

thats the point, it's not easy. It's two hours that someone spent trying to get this accomplishment and then have that time wasted with nothing to show for it. The reward is what drives people to do these quests, if you are one of the few people who are all "blah blah, I like the challenge don't need the reward" then you have no place in this thread. After completing the 4 levels and beating the bosses, the players deserve a reward for a job well done. Yes I said DESERVE because it's true.

Yeah, it is disappointing. I understand, believe me! I've been there a lot! And the more I think about it and been there with nothing to show for it, I'm starting to see the light. Give me something for my effort. I'm sick of Raven staffs and canes. At least throw me a nice perfect gold or some ecto. But give me something in the end!