The Forge Runner
Mistical miss
I may even try a sup tactics rune on a +tactics helmet now :P
Sk8tborderx
I never used the Lt helm, all it did was make me take more damage.
The only thing that changed with the wurm AI that I can tell is that they attack instead of only casting spells.
The only thing that changed with the wurm AI that I can tell is that they attack instead of only casting spells.
Undead Preacher
I dunno about the wurms now, I have mixed feelings.... with dual runs it seems like they are np, but solo.... i used to have about 97.5% success rate..
dropped to about 75%.. seems like I can't get them off my tail sometimes
dropped to about 75%.. seems like I can't get them off my tail sometimes
Me NoFat
I have ran this 10 times between last night and today. The "update" did not do anything to change the run. I had regular spawns, chaser spawns, and an easy spawn. If there was supposed to be an update on their AI I don't really notice it.
If you success rate dropped 20% then you had better start running it again for practice. I had not ran this in a month and the 2 times that I did it solo I did not have a problem.
If you success rate dropped 20% then you had better start running it again for practice. I had not ran this in a month and the 2 times that I did it solo I did not have a problem.
Weeping Wind
I think like posted above that the AI was maybe just making them fight better. The other update for the LT. Helm really hurt my W/E running. The freeze's used to be easy to get through but now they last that little bit longer and it is causing a few problems. I refuse to have to go back to W/Mo running :P
I spose I'd better do a few runs tonight I am kind of short on cash
Weeping
I spose I'd better do a few runs tonight I am kind of short on cash
Weeping
Sk8tborderx
Undead, could it possibly be because you are used to having the Lt helm to make the run?
Mistical miss
Nah I got used to it too 
and I still use it, ran it 3 times now since update, no problems whatsoever, 2 regular spawns, one hard one (3 groups of pinesouls + siege golems at the end of lornars, all non-avoidable...)
made it past all three, no changes on the worms I think (had one short chaser worm)
and I still use it, ran it 3 times now since update, no problems whatsoever, 2 regular spawns, one hard one (3 groups of pinesouls + siege golems at the end of lornars, all non-avoidable...)made it past all three, no changes on the worms I think (had one short chaser worm)
wheel
Quote:
Originally Posted by Minus Sign
Why beat the dog for chewing our wallets when we’re the ones who put that piece of rawhide in his bowl?
I rarely run anymore, and almost never solo since there are now several Wa/Mos that have Ascended in my guild just for Droks running (I've become our unofficial trainer). Like its been said, I make more money farming shells than I would with a bunch of 2k no paying scammers who are barely worth the hassle to report. Like most, I got into running more to prove to myself that I could and "for something to DO" when farming became too mind numbing to stand.
Sk8tborderx...how to put this. Welcome to the McDonalds Mentality. When GW was new, Droks runners were the Elite; the best of the best. But--thanks in no small part to guides like this one--everyone now feels like they can get into it. But they aren't as good (having a tendency to die when spawns aren’t “just right”) so they lower the price. There are more runners running Droks, so they charge less to compete.
And people pay them; Angus beef or soy meat, both do the job (presumably...eventually). Droks is a buyers market now.
And we created them. We create the very people we rail against, exacerbate the problem by freely sharing what we know so they can use it--or exploit it--to their own benefit. I don’t regret that, and I hope no one else who contributes to this guide—or any other—ever does. But expect it; accept it. Ah I remember those days. People were paying me 10k per person to rush them to Droks. Fun, fun.
I rarely run anymore, and almost never solo since there are now several Wa/Mos that have Ascended in my guild just for Droks running (I've become our unofficial trainer). Like its been said, I make more money farming shells than I would with a bunch of 2k no paying scammers who are barely worth the hassle to report. Like most, I got into running more to prove to myself that I could and "for something to DO" when farming became too mind numbing to stand.
Sk8tborderx...how to put this. Welcome to the McDonalds Mentality. When GW was new, Droks runners were the Elite; the best of the best. But--thanks in no small part to guides like this one--everyone now feels like they can get into it. But they aren't as good (having a tendency to die when spawns aren’t “just right”) so they lower the price. There are more runners running Droks, so they charge less to compete.
And people pay them; Angus beef or soy meat, both do the job (presumably...eventually). Droks is a buyers market now.
And we created them. We create the very people we rail against, exacerbate the problem by freely sharing what we know so they can use it--or exploit it--to their own benefit. I don’t regret that, and I hope no one else who contributes to this guide—or any other—ever does. But expect it; accept it. Ah I remember those days. People were paying me 10k per person to rush them to Droks. Fun, fun.
Undead Preacher
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Originally Posted by Sk8tborderx
Undead, could it possibly be because you are used to having the Lt helm to make the run?
Well i was using it, now I use my ascolon helm and I find the extra point in tactics and the extra armor works so much better than the LT helm
and my success rate is back to where it belongs
and my success rate is back to where it belongs
Sk8tborderx
I have always used the alscalon helm for running, I like the +1 to tact. (It also looks great with 15k glads).
Me NoFat
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sk8tborderx
I have always used the alscalon helm for running, I like the +1 to tact. (It also looks great with 15k glads).
Who knew you were into fashion.
Sk8borderx is a different kind of runner IMO. No mending and no Lt helm. He does a great job. Like I said in the OP this run is about skill more than skill set or armor. If you know the run inside out you will not have a problem with the updates.
Has anyone placed deflect arrows on their skill bar since the update?
It might have some uses {not on a Droks run} in heavy archer areas.
Sk8borderx is a different kind of runner IMO. No mending and no Lt helm. He does a great job. Like I said in the OP this run is about skill more than skill set or armor. If you know the run inside out you will not have a problem with the updates.
Has anyone placed deflect arrows on their skill bar since the update?
It might have some uses {not on a Droks run} in heavy archer areas.
Undead Preacher
Quote:
Originally Posted by Me NoFat
Who knew you were into fashion.
Sk8borderx is a different kind of runner IMO. No mending and no Lt helm. He does a great job. Like I said in the OP this run is about skill more than skill set or armor. If you know the run inside out you will not have a problem with the updates.
I used to like the LT helm.... but who runs with mending.... at least not for forge run.... the only enchantment I ever put up is Holy Veil... and the ascolon helm owns now
I use the following..
1) Holy Veil
2) Smite Hex
3) Purge Conditions
4) Endure Pain
5) Balanced Stance
6) Charge
7) Sprint
8) Healing Sig
Strength 13
Tactics 14
Sk8borderx is a different kind of runner IMO. No mending and no Lt helm. He does a great job. Like I said in the OP this run is about skill more than skill set or armor. If you know the run inside out you will not have a problem with the updates.
I used to like the LT helm.... but who runs with mending.... at least not for forge run.... the only enchantment I ever put up is Holy Veil... and the ascolon helm owns now
I use the following..
1) Holy Veil
2) Smite Hex
3) Purge Conditions
4) Endure Pain
5) Balanced Stance
6) Charge
7) Sprint
8) Healing Sig
Strength 13
Tactics 14
Me NoFat
Quote:
Originally Posted by Undead Preacher
I used to like the LT helm.... but who runs with mending.... at least not for forge run.... the only enchantment I ever put up is Holy Veil... and the ascolon helm owns now
I use the following..
1) Holy Veil
2) Smite Hex
3) Purge Conditions
4) Endure Pain
5) Balanced Stance
6) Charge
7) Sprint
8) Healing Sig
Strength 13
Tactics 14 I still run with mending. I am very sure that I know what the hell I am doing also. There are 2 places to use mending. Troll Cave and up and down the hill outside of them. No need to remove any hex there.
The other place is the entire rest of the run other than dreds drift where I use 0 enchants.
While it is very possible to make Snakes Dance without mending (should be able to do it at 60 Dp without) why not use it. There is 0 need for 2 hex remove skills. I use it because there is nothing else that benifits me.
I use the following..
1) Holy Veil
2) Smite Hex
3) Purge Conditions
4) Endure Pain
5) Balanced Stance
6) Charge
7) Sprint
8) Healing Sig
Strength 13
Tactics 14 I still run with mending. I am very sure that I know what the hell I am doing also. There are 2 places to use mending. Troll Cave and up and down the hill outside of them. No need to remove any hex there.
The other place is the entire rest of the run other than dreds drift where I use 0 enchants.
While it is very possible to make Snakes Dance without mending (should be able to do it at 60 Dp without) why not use it. There is 0 need for 2 hex remove skills. I use it because there is nothing else that benifits me.
Mistical miss
Quote:
Originally Posted by Me NoFat
Has anyone placed deflect arrows on their skill bar since the update?
It might have some uses {not on a Droks run} in heavy archer areas. I have, before the update, when I started running, I ran myself trough maguuma, I used it to avoid getting big hits from maguuma spiders and centaurs.
But then again, I was w/me back then ^_^, when I got to w/r I removed that skill from my list, haven't touched it since, but its sure a nice filler stance (if you have room and want to be in stance all the time ^_^)
Or if you are going to farm devourers
Sarah Arano
Quote:
Originally Posted by Undead Preacher
I used to like the LT helm.... but who runs with mending.... at least not for forge run.... the only enchantment I ever put up is Holy Veil... and the ascolon helm owns now
I use the following..
1) Holy Veil
2) Smite Hex
3) Purge Conditions
4) Endure Pain
5) Balanced Stance
6) Charge
7) Sprint
8) Healing Sig
Strength 13
Tactics 14 And why not? Mending has its uses. Personally I use breeze instead, for burst healing or while jogging/in aggro, but unlike breeze, mending has the benefit of allowing you to recover to ur max energy while consistantly providing the regen. Its a trade off.
P.S. I dun care.. still like the LT helm
I use the following..
1) Holy Veil
2) Smite Hex
3) Purge Conditions
4) Endure Pain
5) Balanced Stance
6) Charge
7) Sprint
8) Healing Sig
Strength 13
Tactics 14 And why not? Mending has its uses. Personally I use breeze instead, for burst healing or while jogging/in aggro, but unlike breeze, mending has the benefit of allowing you to recover to ur max energy while consistantly providing the regen. Its a trade off.
P.S. I dun care.. still like the LT helm
Sarah Arano
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mistical miss
I have, before the update, when I started running, I ran myself trough maguuma, I used it to avoid getting big hits from maguuma spiders and centaurs.
But then again, I was w/me back then ^_^, when I got to w/r I removed that skill from my list, haven't touched it since, but its sure a nice filler stance (if you have room and want to be in stance all the time ^_^)
Or if you are going to farm devourers
Farm devourers?? o.0
But then again, I was w/me back then ^_^, when I got to w/r I removed that skill from my list, haven't touched it since, but its sure a nice filler stance (if you have room and want to be in stance all the time ^_^)
Or if you are going to farm devourers
Farm devourers?? o.0
Mistical miss
thats why the was there :P
no one in the right mind farms devourers, really if you solo them they dont drop goldies (got one 1 in like 50 devourers) <--- oh that proves im not in the right mind ^_^
Btw, I still use the lt helmet, works fine... (don't need another helmet or so to keep running consistent, its really more about the skill..)
btw, I hope they make the droks run harder soon, prices going to low :P
was there :Pno one in the right mind farms devourers, really if you solo them they dont drop goldies (got one 1 in like 50 devourers) <--- oh that proves im not in the right mind ^_^
Btw, I still use the lt helmet, works fine... (don't need another helmet or so to keep running consistent, its really more about the skill..)
btw, I hope they make the droks run harder soon, prices going to low :P
Mistical miss
no, they made it easier 
Yesterday I tried lornars 9 times, made 8 of them with ease, 1 had a spawn with lovely 3 groups of siege golems clustered...still made it though.
I made it past the worm areas in lornars without using balance or charge... only sprint...
I made it 2 times with my r/w out of 2 tries...
Today I'm going to try and do it walking backward... (dolyaks sig ftw:P)
Yesterday I tried lornars 9 times, made 8 of them with ease, 1 had a spawn with lovely 3 groups of siege golems clustered...still made it though.
I made it past the worm areas in lornars without using balance or charge... only sprint...
I made it 2 times with my r/w out of 2 tries...
Today I'm going to try and do it walking backward... (dolyaks sig ftw:P)
Sarah Arano
Ok.. this is a first for me, happened just outside the troll cave in snakedance.. heard its a random spawn.. nasty 
wurm.JPG
wurm.JPG
Sk8tborderx
I have done this run over 500 times and solo snake all the time and have never seen a wurm there. Could it be from the update?
Sarah Arano
My guild mates told me its always been around there, its a boss (notice the aura). It must have spawned pretty close to the left edge of the rift on the way to the zig-zag path down to the cave because that was where i picked it up. Must have been pretty lucky.. or unlucky..
wheel
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sarah Arano
My guild mates told me its always been around there, its a boss (notice the aura). It must have spawned pretty close to the left edge of the rift on the way to the zig-zag path down to the cave because that was where i picked it up. Must have been pretty lucky.. or unlucky..
You need a new map if you encountered the Wurm in Dreadnought's Drift while on a Droknar's Forge run. (image from http://www.xennon.co.uk/eliteskills/)
You need a new map if you encountered the Wurm in Dreadnought's Drift while on a Droknar's Forge run. (image from http://www.xennon.co.uk/eliteskills/)
Me NoFat
^^agree 100%. You are way out of the area you should be if Maw (boss) spawns while you are running the Forge. You should never get close to his spawn aggro area. Use the maps in the OP and go the correct way. Once you do this will never happen to you.
Mistical miss
Nah Maw spawns randomly, I have encountered him in lornars pass, my friend has met him in grenth's
Me NoFat
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mistical miss
Nah Maw spawns randomly, I have encountered him in lornars pass, my friend has met him in grenth's
Sure but we are talking about where he spawns in Dreads Drift. He spawn point is random according to zone but it is always in the same spot in that zone.
Sarah Arano
Nope.. thats why i was shocked.. this was in snakedance just before the troll cave.
3.JPG
3.JPG
Mistical miss
btw we need an update, hexed shield is now +60hp -3 dmg while hexed
and +45 health stance -2 dmg stance only costs 2 bleached shells now'!
and +45 health stance -2 dmg stance only costs 2 bleached shells now'!
Sk8tborderx
Me NoFat has left the game and most likely not comming back.
Weeping Wind
I thought the hexed sheild was only PvP? If not then Ive got to get myself one
Weeping
Weeping
Sk8tborderx
I think they changed it so the collectors shields now give the same stats as the pvp hexed shields.
Mistical miss
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sk8tborderx
Me NoFat has left the game and most likely not comming back.
can't be true :'(
boohoo..
can't be true :'(boohoo..
Hockster
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mistical miss
can't be true :'(
boohoo.. It's true.
boohoo.. It's true.
Mistical miss
that's very bad for this thread..
lord of shadow
might as well bump this up again-its really helped me
Demon Rebel
Maw the mountain heart spawns all over the place! But Sarah thats the worst spawn I have Ever seen in the droks run! wow...
So the +45 -2 stance is now just 2 bleached shells???? OMG... I spent 5 on it a long time ago.
This is a fun run... I like it... and it looks like I really need to get back to working on my Droks walk-through... I like the comments in the pics.
So the +45 -2 stance is now just 2 bleached shells???? OMG... I spent 5 on it a long time ago.
This is a fun run... I like it... and it looks like I really need to get back to working on my Droks walk-through... I like the comments in the pics.
Lord Osi
Nice, the desert collect shield is now
-3 (while hexed)
+60 (while hexed)
-3 (while hexed)
+60 (while hexed)
Montolioo
Hi i really wanna become good at this run, but i need a few things first. I have all the skills and armor, etc, but it would be nice if someone expirienced could show me ingame how to do it. Send me a private message here or ingame if you can.
IGN: Rand Al Thorre
Thank you for any help you can give me.
IGN: Rand Al Thorre
Thank you for any help you can give me.
Sk8tborderx
It is best to just practice the run yourself so you can get a feel for it and learn from first hand experience. If I would teach you how to make the run then you would not learn as much and you would not be as good a runner.
Shadow-Hunter
Well Just read the Guide as it give alot of good tips and stuffs.. Then Head out from beacons alone and start trying.. You should get hang of it after a while.. Ofc you should remember even if you die just one time then it could be bad luck or a dumb spawn.. ill even say that the ppl who say they can run from beacons --> Droks Solo with 100% succes is full of bs.. i have gotten a spawn that i allmost new i couldent make... =/.. 2 wurms following me in loknars pass and then the way ahead was full of imps and Siege golems =/ .. But the run after i ran though with no Problem... So just get out there and begin trying Pratice make a Master..
~Shadow
Pratice make a Master.. ~Shadow
Evilsod
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Osi
Nice, the desert collect shield is now
-3 (while hexed)
+60 (while hexed) Surely they've been like that ever since the update...
I decided i needed myself a +60/-3 shield yesterday, so i made myself the dodgiest solo Blessed Griffon farming build i've ever seen and got myself 5 (ended up with 7) frosted wings from outside Rankor.
If Maw can spawn in Lornars, Snake and Grenths. Whats the big deal about him spawning/appearing slightly further away from normal in Dreadnoughts? He once jumped me in Snake too, scared the bejeezus outa me, had never seen him before. It was on the hill near where the entrance to GF is. I think he does this sorta thing VERY rarely though.
-3 (while hexed)
+60 (while hexed) Surely they've been like that ever since the update...
I decided i needed myself a +60/-3 shield yesterday, so i made myself the dodgiest solo Blessed Griffon farming build i've ever seen and got myself 5 (ended up with 7) frosted wings from outside Rankor.
If Maw can spawn in Lornars, Snake and Grenths. Whats the big deal about him spawning/appearing slightly further away from normal in Dreadnoughts? He once jumped me in Snake too, scared the bejeezus outa me, had never seen him before. It was on the hill near where the entrance to GF is. I think he does this sorta thing VERY rarely though.