with the gale nerf and the war buffs I doubt i will have a non-warrior skill on my bar. Also thrill of victry is looking pretty good
Great update a-net stuff like this keeps the game interesting and encourages me to purchase factions.
March 2 skill balance update!
Toll Booth Willie
M C H A M M E R
Wow...I think I might be done with GW...
The dreadnaught chest was my main income...
The dreadnaught chest was my main income...
ilmau
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I dont see how iway was really nerfed.
"I will avenge you!": reduced attack speed to 25%; fixed a bug that caused this skill to trigger off of dead ally minions. are pets minions? |
crimsonfilms
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Wow...I think I might be done with GW...
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Loviatar
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They nerfed farming. Now the rich will stay rich and the poor will quit the game. Good job Arena Net another smooth move Ex lax.
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Yichi
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no seriously that was hella funny.The nerf to veil and mend ailment were what disapointed me most. It makes it a strong argument to not even bring them at times. lucky the new 20/20 prot staff helps with this some for mend. Crip shot was way to easy to spread multiple conditions and needed that. OoB is a hit for my monk, but still by far the best single energy management for monks, even after this update. just have a feeling youll start seeing a 3monk backline maybe with the heal party adjust.
Mysterial
Looks like they tried to buff Signet counters (Rust/Ignorance) instead of nerfing Resurrection Signet... which basically means absolutely nothing except possibly in 4v4; Rust now has a duration/recharge ratio that makes it possible to hit everyone on the other team before people start dropping.
Mark of Rodgort was a nice buff if you can find the energy for it - have to try running Warriors with fiery weapons and spamming it and see what happens.
The Lightning Javelin buff was an attempt to make it spammable at incoming warriors to screw with their attacks. Of course, you can't actually hit them because Warriors chasing a fleeing target move eratically and a projectile will miss as often as it hits. So just keep using Blinding Flash.
Fire elementalists in general got a little better but not enough. Air still sucks except for utility, Water has hope without the hex helm but needed some duration/recharge buffs it didn't get, and Earth didn't need all that much anyway. (although making Eruption not suck would've been nice)
Mark of Rodgort was a nice buff if you can find the energy for it - have to try running Warriors with fiery weapons and spamming it and see what happens.
The Lightning Javelin buff was an attempt to make it spammable at incoming warriors to screw with their attacks. Of course, you can't actually hit them because Warriors chasing a fleeing target move eratically and a projectile will miss as often as it hits. So just keep using Blinding Flash.
Fire elementalists in general got a little better but not enough. Air still sucks except for utility, Water has hope without the hex helm but needed some duration/recharge buffs it didn't get, and Earth didn't need all that much anyway. (although making Eruption not suck would've been nice)
trankle
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yay, i did a little test, iway now don't count pets for his effect.
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Yichi
hint for iway. did some testing, and well, try it on another party members pet
Lady Erighan
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Wow...I think I might be done with GW...
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And don't tell me that chest was the only reason you played this game...
dont feel no pain
Wary Stance: reduced recharge time to 45 seconds.
Riposte: increased damage to 20..80.
Deadly Riposte: increased damage to 15..75.
Defy Pain: decreased adrenaline cost to 6 swings.
Inferno: increased damage to 30..13
Conjure Flame: no longer removes Enchantments.5.
Flame Burst: increased damage to 15..120.
Peace and Harmony: skill reworked. Now ends if ally casts a Spell on target foe or deals damage to a foe; reduced recharge time to 30 seconds.
Healing Hands: increased the amount healed to 5..35; now triggers on damage instead of attack.
Live Vicariously: increased amount healed per swing to 2..17.
Melandru's Resilience: increased Health regeneration to 3 pips.
Enfeebling Blood: reduced recharge to 5 seconds; reduced sacrifice to 10%.
im so happy
whos a happy bunny ..... me me me!!!
Riposte: increased damage to 20..80.
Deadly Riposte: increased damage to 15..75.
Defy Pain: decreased adrenaline cost to 6 swings.
Inferno: increased damage to 30..13
Conjure Flame: no longer removes Enchantments.5.
Flame Burst: increased damage to 15..120.
Peace and Harmony: skill reworked. Now ends if ally casts a Spell on target foe or deals damage to a foe; reduced recharge time to 30 seconds.
Healing Hands: increased the amount healed to 5..35; now triggers on damage instead of attack.
Live Vicariously: increased amount healed per swing to 2..17.
Melandru's Resilience: increased Health regeneration to 3 pips.
Enfeebling Blood: reduced recharge to 5 seconds; reduced sacrifice to 10%.
im so happy
whos a happy bunny ..... me me me!!!
zsoltcc
Are Bloodstained boots an undocumented change? I think Gaile mentioned something before the update about them being fixed.
The dreads chest was the only one i've seen drop a dwarven axe. Did anyone see a dwarven drop of a monster?
Skill changes ae always welcomed here. Makes the game interesting , change is good
The dreads chest was the only one i've seen drop a dwarven axe. Did anyone see a dwarven drop of a monster?
Skill changes ae always welcomed here. Makes the game interesting , change is good
Yanman.be
harvest moon is definetaly ( sp? ) one of the most addictive games out there...
ooho i like fevered dreams now...or i might get my old r/me condition spreader from the dust...with some update offcourse
ooho i like fevered dreams now...or i might get my old r/me condition spreader from the dust...with some update offcourse
Symbol
I'm a little disappointed in the elementalist skill buffs. The javelin recharge buff was potentially nice, but you'll never have the energy to spam it without twin attunements. Energy costs really needed to come down, and that didn't happen.
On the plus side my gimmick PBAoE fire bomber got even more (potentially) vicious as all three of his attack skills got buffed (MoR, Flame Burst, Lava font).
On the plus side my gimmick PBAoE fire bomber got even more (potentially) vicious as all three of his attack skills got buffed (MoR, Flame Burst, Lava font).
Dzan
They didn't nerf Hamstorm, in fact, they buffed it. Thanks a lot A-net.
EnvyHax
Since I only play a monk, this really hasn't effected me at all. I usually (always) only play a spiker, and the ONLY skill they changed that I use is Mend Ailment. I can just swtich in Mend Condition instead though, which still only has a 2 sec recharge time.
Lasher Dragon
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They didn't nerf Hamstorm, in fact, they buffed it. Thanks a lot A-net.
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thelessa
lol, that might be more effective!
koneko
Does anyone know what exactly the GW client keeps downloading?
I have the game sitting at the opening login screen and it's already downloaded over 100MB worth of stuff (as shown in the top-right corner).
I have the game sitting at the opening login screen and it's already downloaded over 100MB worth of stuff (as shown in the top-right corner).
Lasher Dragon
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lol, that might be more effective!
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John Bloodstone
Not a bad update all said and done - quite well balanced and few really nasty nerfs. However, one thing bothers me; they nerfed 4 really good secondary skills in this update, personally I think this game already lacks enough truly useful secondary skills, so it's disappointing that we now have even fewer.
Distortion
Blackout
Offering of Blood
Gale
Take gale for example, now all but useless for a warrior, but a warrior now has bulls strike/charge - a great skill change in itself, but now most warriors needn't bother with a secondary, which hurts the diversity of the game imo.
Also, now having nerfed OoB, are we going to see anything other than Mo/Me anymore?
I guess time will tell...
Distortion
Blackout
Offering of Blood
Gale
Take gale for example, now all but useless for a warrior, but a warrior now has bulls strike/charge - a great skill change in itself, but now most warriors needn't bother with a secondary, which hurts the diversity of the game imo.
Also, now having nerfed OoB, are we going to see anything other than Mo/Me anymore?
I guess time will tell...
jet_striker
I am seriously pissed about the chests in the drift....
It was perfect for me to get to those chests. Took a lot of time to perfect a perfect run, never got a rare drop from them, and then they just remove them completly.
Why keep them there and decrease the drop rate. And then make them harder to get too, if you are just gonna nerf them, they were hard enough to get too.
Just my 2 cents, found it was a stupid nerf, and not needed.
But maybe they are getting ready to make these rare items more available in chap2. Maybe.....
until then wtv, farm fow, uw still.... its better...easier, who cares about the rest
It was perfect for me to get to those chests. Took a lot of time to perfect a perfect run, never got a rare drop from them, and then they just remove them completly.
Why keep them there and decrease the drop rate. And then make them harder to get too, if you are just gonna nerf them, they were hard enough to get too.
Just my 2 cents, found it was a stupid nerf, and not needed.
But maybe they are getting ready to make these rare items more available in chap2. Maybe.....
until then wtv, farm fow, uw still.... its better...easier, who cares about the rest
WasAGuest
Most changes were good. I'm not real fond of the new "roaches" (scarabs) in the desert, but they didn't hurt me any, and they can still be solo'd with the right skill sets. They just "bug" me (pun intended).
I still didn't see any changes to the AI though. AoE spells are still nearly pointless to use with the "flee and break aggro AI". Any word on when this will be fixed? On that same note - being that you are chasing foes from an AoE, are you considered attacking while chasing the dumb dumbs around? If not, it seems to me that spamming AoE and chase them around for a way to not get interupted is a major goof.
Also, any word on pet commands - skill buffs were nice, if I could use the pet I would love them, but since he just gets in the way more oft than not. Better skills means little to me... yea, I'm a terrible BM.
What about henchie commands? News?
Greedy? Yup, I sure am.
Also, since Anet reps look at these once in awhile - Thanks for this update. Coming from another (now dead) online game where the updates (read nerfs) were so bad and so frequent I am often nervous upon hearing "balance". I am pleasantly surprised at this though.
I still didn't see any changes to the AI though. AoE spells are still nearly pointless to use with the "flee and break aggro AI". Any word on when this will be fixed? On that same note - being that you are chasing foes from an AoE, are you considered attacking while chasing the dumb dumbs around? If not, it seems to me that spamming AoE and chase them around for a way to not get interupted is a major goof.
Also, any word on pet commands - skill buffs were nice, if I could use the pet I would love them, but since he just gets in the way more oft than not. Better skills means little to me... yea, I'm a terrible BM.
What about henchie commands? News?
Greedy? Yup, I sure am.
Also, since Anet reps look at these once in awhile - Thanks for this update. Coming from another (now dead) online game where the updates (read nerfs) were so bad and so frequent I am often nervous upon hearing "balance". I am pleasantly surprised at this though.
MSecorsky
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I still didn't see any changes to the AI though. AoE spells are still nearly pointless to use with the "flee and break aggro AI". Any word on when this will be fixed?
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You do, right?
Fred Kiwi
they nerfed minion factory :O come on, was it REALLY necessary?
no longer an easy way out to difficult missions :/
actually, yes spose it was. Just answered my own question. Carry on.
no longer an easy way out to difficult missions :/
actually, yes spose it was. Just answered my own question. Carry on.
Bastard Son
The chest in Dread's Drift that is mentioned and I see some of you have commented on: is this the one that doesn't require a key and sometimes drops a handful of items, not just 1-3? If so, I *JUST* heard about it the other day (Monday, I believe). I've only recently tried my first Droks run (though, in reality, it was a reverse Droks run from Camp Rankor north to Beacon's). I didn't make it, but almost. Afterwards, I was looking for build tips for that run and saw someone describe that chest. I had planned this weekend to hit it up for the very first time.
If this is the same chest we're talking about, then this is really the only thing that bothers me about the update.
It's just a personal thing, though. Not going to cry about it, but it just sorta sucks when you make a plan to get to it for the first time... and you can't!
(Note: this is my first time through the game and going at a snail's pace... and I've only been in the Southern Shiverpeaks for a short amount of time, so the region is still very new to me)
Seems like there are slightly more reasons to change up my Secondary profession to Mesmer. Hmm....
If this is the same chest we're talking about, then this is really the only thing that bothers me about the update.
It's just a personal thing, though. Not going to cry about it, but it just sorta sucks when you make a plan to get to it for the first time... and you can't!
(Note: this is my first time through the game and going at a snail's pace... and I've only been in the Southern Shiverpeaks for a short amount of time, so the region is still very new to me)
Seems like there are slightly more reasons to change up my Secondary profession to Mesmer. Hmm....
Age
This is what I have to say is maybe the Mo/N is over in PvP and bring on the Mo/W with ViM for management or Mo/Mes with channeling or Mantra of Recall.There is always mend condition but can't be used on target only alley or the elite restore condition.I still think the P&H is still not worth a skill cap as well as MoP.I am glad about one thing being a sword Warrior just got better and a little nerf to axe Warriors with eviscrete after all it is what Iway uses and hopefullly there won't be to chat on that in HA.I do agree with most the Monks and Ranger got hit agian but this mostly to do with PvP not PvE.I would suggest improving the economy more gold sinks so everyone can get there 15K armor it is either that or see chaper 2 sales may go down as PvE will be come more boring without farming.
The suggestion I have to say is make all skill at Emberlight camp questable after you ascend this gives someone something to do when changing secoundaries.Well like you all said there are some good things but some bad things.This is mostly for PvP as most of the player base is 20% and the rest being PvE who care about them.I just turned a day older so we get ranty when we get older.I did buy LT. halmet I guess now I can wear it in PvP.
Izzy you are bad but thanks for sword improvements.
The suggestion I have to say is make all skill at Emberlight camp questable after you ascend this gives someone something to do when changing secoundaries.Well like you all said there are some good things but some bad things.This is mostly for PvP as most of the player base is 20% and the rest being PvE who care about them.I just turned a day older so we get ranty when we get older.I did buy LT. halmet I guess now I can wear it in PvP.
Izzy you are bad but thanks for sword improvements.
SnipiousMax
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So you are encouraging the "Kill an innocent man rather than let the guilty live" type of approach in things?
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But I don't have any problems tearing down a playground that's become a drug and stolen goods hotspot even though a few little kid's will be upset. Go find another playground. Nothing is preventing you from finding another money spot, so its not like they "killed" you at all.
RandomEngy
About Shadow of Fear: Yes, I agree that it is an absolutely incredible skill now. It was before but now you get 40+ seconds of halving all warrior and bow ranger damage, AoE, 10 energy, 5 recharge. If you don't have someone abusing Spiteful Spirit now there's no excuse not to take it.
dargon
Ok, I'm happy with the majority of the updates, however there is still one thing that currently needs to be dealt with, not so much a skill problem as an equipment one. PVE characters are superior to PVP characters with regards to equipment. Hear me out before you think I'm a loony because you can make a pvp character with much of the pve equipment now that they've added the lieutenants helm to pvp.
The difference is simple, a pve character can go in with 4 or more customized weapons, pvp only has a choice of 2 during creation and has to either use non-customized from storage or pre-order equipment.
Secondly, a pve character can have multiple sets of armor, multiple head pieces, etc (ie warriors with an axe helm and a lieutenants helm), a pvp character does not have this option.
I like the current set of changes and I think they go a long ways towards balancing things out, but until pvp characters are on par with pve with regards to what is available to them, then more needs to be planned for down the road.
The difference is simple, a pve character can go in with 4 or more customized weapons, pvp only has a choice of 2 during creation and has to either use non-customized from storage or pre-order equipment.
Secondly, a pve character can have multiple sets of armor, multiple head pieces, etc (ie warriors with an axe helm and a lieutenants helm), a pvp character does not have this option.
I like the current set of changes and I think they go a long ways towards balancing things out, but until pvp characters are on par with pve with regards to what is available to them, then more needs to be planned for down the road.
Ira Blinks
I see no changes to Eruption and Maelstorm 
Ira Blinks
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And if there is no reason to use it, then it _is_ broken.
Age
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Ok, I'm happy with the majority of the updates, however there is still one thing that currently needs to be dealt with, not so much a skill problem as an equipment one. PVE characters are superior to PVP characters with regards to equipment. Hear me out before you think I'm a loony because you can make a pvp character with much of the pve equipment now that they've added the lieutenants helm to pvp.
The difference is simple, a pve character can go in with 4 or more customized weapons, pvp only has a choice of 2 during creation and has to either use non-customized from storage or pre-order equipment. Secondly, a pve character can have multiple sets of armor, multiple head pieces, etc (ie warriors with an axe helm and a lieutenants helm), a pvp character does not have this option. I like the current set of changes and I think they go a long ways towards balancing things out, but until pvp characters are on par with pve with regards to what is available to them, then more needs to be planned for down the road. |
M3lk0r
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why use AoE then? To make mobs run? Why make them run when you could just kill them instead?
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Yea, I'm afraid you DO need some kind of pulse to play this game.
Sluggs
There is something bigger going on here than just balancing, my GW downloaded for now ~120 megs worth of updates and it still ain't over. Approximately half of update is just overwriting old files but, other half is filling up gw.dat which is now 1.29 gb, used to be 1.25gb.
Is there something else in here not being listed in update notes?
Is there something else in here not being listed in update notes?
MSecorsky
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why use AoE then? To make mobs run? Why make them run when you could just kill them instead?
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It's up to you to figure out how to get them in that state.
Denny Pace
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I've done some Hydra farming. It's not hard after you alter your build a little to account for meteor and fire attacks. But like Troll farming, I didn't find it to be all that profitable. They dropped mostly white and blue Ele wands and so on. I think I made more gold selling Hydra claws than from their other drops.
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Ira Blinks
M3lk0r
I sugest you go and try it. It takes one step to get out of maelstorm, so 66% speed reduction is irrelevant (yes i tryed it many times).
And to make eruption work you would need two eles since spreading attribute point across different types if highly ineffective. So if you going to use two ele to do one ele's job, be my guest, and i'll stick to my meteor shover and rodgot's invocation tyvm.
I sugest you go and try it. It takes one step to get out of maelstorm, so 66% speed reduction is irrelevant (yes i tryed it many times).
And to make eruption work you would need two eles since spreading attribute point across different types if highly ineffective. So if you going to use two ele to do one ele's job, be my guest, and i'll stick to my meteor shover and rodgot's invocation tyvm.
neoteo
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Does anyone know what exactly the GW client keeps downloading?
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drowningfish999
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i guess its factions , coming home sonner
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