March 2 skill balance update!

Yes. For Order of the Vampire to cast and stay up, Order of Pain must have worn off. For Order of the Vampire to STAY up, you can't recast Order of Pain untill it is over.

if somebody has a necro enchant on them other than OOV then OOV simply will not do any damage.

Thats how it works, so no more dual orders and no more OOV stacked on top of tainted flesh.

anyone plz help =(
Icant cap "Peach and Harmony" from Marnta Doomspeaker.
She use this elite-skill ... but ... when show she's list .... there isnt X(
wtf

Vampiric Touch is what is killing you

nice skill updates, I love them

honestly, i think they might have overdone it a little.

itll be interesting to see how the new balanced GvG build looks though.

Interesting to see that shield mods have changed from -3 dmg received (10%) max to now -5 dmg received (20%) max.

Could be a factions skill. OS we can't cap it yet.


I wonder if there is more than just the one new green item???

the minor cripshot nerf is great imo.
finally, some veriaty in gvg...

Both queen runs where the refuge dropped for my party, TWO of them dropped at once. I'm sure if there were more greens to be had there wouldn't have been two exact same greens dropped at the same time.

I was a little disapponted when I saw the Griff farming nerf. I understood with all the professional farmers there, but it was a primary source of income for me and I've just a little guy. But with change comes new challenges and opportunities, right?

So, OoB is basically useless to 4v4 monks now

ok, sure. Though my opinion still stands that if farming is what you play the game for there are better games for doing so in my opinion - my sincerist appologies to anet if i have the power to drive people away with my opinion....

I agree with you Woody. I just started farming there about 3 weeks ago, but managed to get my 15k armor before the nerf Guess it's off to farm trolls from now on till I can find another good spot for rotation.

I only farm for the gold as drops are so rare otherwise. When I run with my guild I seem to only get 1-5 drops in THK. Farming allows me to actually have some money to buy anything, not just mods and items (which I prefer to find, not purchase).

All 150 people that are reading this, look at that again. I've just been verbally assaulted! By a mod! I guess its ok...he has a green name...mine is red...green>red...

...or is that black...judging by dye prices...black>>>>>>red...

lol at least you two got the staves... :-)

I agree with the idea they just touched up a little with the fear of a big nerf ruining all...

Iway is not dead but "restricted" on its usage. They did the right thing IMO, to make it less atractive instead of nerfing the heck out of it.

I see some W skills tweacked, good...

there is more than griff farming these days.

why don't you hit outside of droknars for the troll farming!

lol x.x

MY Pet Pressure Build is freaking good now, Some of you might of seen us do our first few trial runs tonight in tombs. (TTA) Although we havent won halls yet I thin k with some practice this could do it.

IWAY is still viable, just harder, N/Mo's take healing hands instead of OoV and often Cleave over eviscerate. We still had a very tough fight and lost too Lord Constantion on our first run. (We didn't have many sigs left )

I assume this was tongue planted firmly in cheek. But if not, I've done troll farming and didn't find it to be as profitable as Griff. At least not on the runs I did. I made a nice little chunk off of Griff and Minos. I've actually made more in Tombs since that's opened up, but I like solo farming. It's...therapeutic.

arg, can we get some str collector's shields yet?!

Ok so thet Nerfed some things but has anyone else had this problem??



This is Essence Bond !! Wrong Picture!!




This is Mending !! Wrong Picture!!



This again is mending and wrong picture once again.

I've always like the Fact that this game evolves and makes the players evolve too. Griffin Farming was getting Old but we do need to make our money some how!! Right? I WAS saving for FOW armor for my Main Toon But it looks like that will never happen unless Ecto and Shards go down in price. But Over all I'm Happy with this update GJ ANET!!!

The mob elite (monk) drops a green staff in that are better then the yakslapper and people are tweaking there builds to over come that already. You can also do what they did when they made UW harder, go in pairs

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...d.php?t=130380

Yeah, I'm reading in other threads that people have had some really good runs doing 3 and 4 man teams. They're quick and the drops are pretty good.

There is of course more than just Griff/Meno's but they were the most profitable as you said, Woody. The trolls are not bad, just not as profitable; will have to see about finding a new spot, but I don't think much will be AS good, though. I've heard quite a bit about Hydra farming, but haven't done any myself yet.

Lol, people saying Iway is screwed from the new update. But in the Gladiators channel I belive it's called saying IWAY is the same just needs more experinces?

Don't forget about Tainted...Necro enchantment too.

Just use throw dirt and dust trap its not that bad

Aww, I still wish they'd change Warrior's Endurance from Stance to Skill.

I know, I know, Warrior's Endurance isn't a very popular skill - but I really liked it when being a W/A with zealous Daggers. Close to freebie dagger attacks.

I know you can get it in other ways but I really wanna be a warrior with daggers and almost unlimited attacks. If only Warrior's Endurance was a skill and not a stance... Even Enchantment would work.

But apart from that, superb update. Atleast this time they didn't treat 80% of the skills as nerfbat-pinyatas.

Yup, my farming build works even better now thanks to this change.
My Mesmer is much improved as well, ranger skills I use are improved and I might try my poor pet again. My ele seemed untouched though (geomancer) and could have used a few recharge timer changes. My war/X farmer now rocks though... not saying the build though... Anet might be listening.

I've done some Hydra farming. It's not hard after you alter your build a little to account for meteor and fire attacks. But like Troll farming, I didn't find it to be all that profitable. They dropped mostly white and blue Ele wands and so on. I think I made more gold selling Hydra claws than from their other drops.

I just cant wait till i go home, >_<
I hate my job

but quick question WHY Holy Veil: increased recharge time to 12 seconds?

it wasnt over-powered >_<

I dont think nearly enough was changed. There are still tons of useless skills.

I am surprised Anet didn't just remove Faintheartedness from the game entirely. Why on earth would anyone use that instead of Shadow of Fear now?

Mesmer-
Kudos for the much needed Mantra of Resolve and Distortion nerf, Mantra of Recovery looks ok now, E-Drain and E-Tap is still garbage; Ignorance MAY get some play (probably not). Nothing really major to either Blackout or Sig or Weariness, they are just slightly less retardedly strong than before. The other changes might as well not have happened.

Necromancer-
OoB got a much needed nerf other, than that I have no bloody idea what ANet is thinking. Shadow of Fear - "No no no, lightspeed is too slow...Yes we are going to have to go... LUDICROUS SPEED!". So yeah, with no curse investment you now have a 20 second AoE speed Debuff that recharges every 5 seconds... Chillblains now only poison for only 10 seconds now, improving the skill to the point that it is no longer a complete POS to... wait nevermind its still a complete POS. Order of Vampire was never that great to begin with, and wasn't the reason why IWAY was so strong or why R-Spike was so stupidly strong compared to other spikes. At least MoS and Soul Leech work like they should now.

Elementalist-
Rodgort's Invocation and the other fire spells now do an extra 6-9 damage? HOLY CRAP! That's... the most pointless buff I have ever seen! No wait... the Conjure's no longer removing enchantments is! No wait, the decreased recharge on Mark of Rodgort is! No no, the reduced recharge on Lightning Javelin HAS to be the most pointless buff ever... No... the reduce recharge on Rust most definately is the most pointless buff ever... You get the point.

Elementalist class is still more or less consigned to blindbot/wardbot/heal party bot duties. Thanks for playing ANet!

Monk-
Shielding Hands is finally 1/4 sec cast time, Purge Signet is still kind of mediocre (3 second cast time really hurts). I'm a bit iffy on the Mend Ailment nerf, the nerf to Holy Veil is just stupid as it serves no purpose, an additional 2 seconds doesn't do anything more than just annoy the users. Scourge Sacrafice got a nice buff as did healing hands. The other changes might as well never happened.

Warrior-
Bull's Strike and Bull's Charge go use it - now, Bull's Strike especially. Hammer Warrior, Sword Warrior, Axe Warrior, Wand Warrior (well maybe not), this skill deserves a spot on your skill bar. IWAY got a small nerf, but nothing too major, had it been dead ally pets instead of minions then we would start seeing some crying. The increased damage on Gash is nice, Shields Up got a nice buff as did Thrill of Victory, although that skill is still being hampered by being in the Tactics line. As for the other changes, meh, more power to the PvE warriors I guess.

Ranger-
Crippling Shot is still great without being retarded now. Pet builds still suck because of retarded AI and lack of direct control. Practice Stance is no longer Choking Gas Stance and is now Choking Gas Chamber Stance.


So um yeah, more of the same, Elementalist are still mediocre at best, Necromancers still need the other skills in their curse line looked at, the other classes are more or less where they should be aside from the stupid amount of skills that desperately need to be buffed in those classes as well.

See... i told you guys it was coming in 24 hours :P I jsut got back from morning class, time to go on and play!!!

Quite a balanced update. Crip shot.... i think the scaling has reduced the ability for 6 line r/me (which was stupid tbh).. and the nerf to dis also helps. Crip shot is still great though, especially with the mend ailment nerf.

Peace and Harmony is still awful... the energy income is very low... maintaining it on another monk is fair game, but that leaves the other monk with not much going on. Still dont like it.

Woot for exhaustion. I stopped using gale a while ago but thats a nice balance i think.

Heal Party.... hasnt really changed. THere are few times as a player when you get to spam it continually. The elmo flag runner is pretty much untouched by this update, and with those 10 pips he could spam heal party indefinately... if it had a 2s recharge time -.- Big nerf

OOTV... again, there were few times i could maintain oop and ootv as orders unless my team were ace (or terrible). The other problem with this is tainted. No more tainted flesh ootv. oop oob ftw... slap in dark fury with cleave and a few evis'... i think iway got hurt but nowhere near nerfed.

OOB.... 20% is too much i swear. 100 damage makes a huge dent in the net gain. Perhaps if they buffed the energy gain a bit more it would be gd.

Energy drain: ..... i havent done the maths yet but i dont know whether thats enough to make it useable. wheres the e:5 c:1 r: 20 steal 1-7 3 for each energy... thats balanced... against mor

Fire is nicer... i still think they can buff it up a bit more

Holy veil mod is really not very good... especially with lt helm ftl.... there are going to be many hexes around soon... people are going to need their veils.

Is it just me... or is there no change to deep wound. ftw...

lol lol lol. too funny. yes minos are way too easy, they pretty much kill themselves. have you ever noticed a certain area where the minos are retarded? dont attack, just run in circles waiting to die? anet should change this mobs name to "inbred minotaurs" or add a boss named "cletus" there....

Mesmers gonna rule now, and even though IWAY got nerfed, it looks as if Warriors have something else to play with now.

Me too. I have the collector while hexed shield. Is there a new collector while hexed shield with these stats for PvE players?