I'm a PvE only player...how come I can't have a chance at winning$100k in real money?

Ok people are missing the point here i believe. PVE wasnt ment to be a competitive thing. It was ment as a way to learn the story behind the game, unlock items and upgrades, and collect skills to use in your adventures. NEVER was PVE ever ment to be a competitive thing pitting guild against guild... and when you pit Guild against Guild what do you have.... A GUILD WAR!!! guild vs guild... hmm we have that ... gvg...

i always laugh when pvpers say this is a skill based game, no it is not, it is a seriously flawed game where the overbearing balancing completely voids and unique build and everyone just copies everyone else.
want to do well in pvp, look on the net for a build and go do what everyone else is doing.

Build is only half of it, if even that.

OH WAIT DON'T FEED THE TROLLS OOPS

I think factions handles the Guild War aspect of pve (or will handle it) in the case of competitive missions. however, I will point out that, according to ANet's FAQ for GW, Guild Wars is a CORPG (Competitive Online Role-Playing Game). That could mean whatever you think it could mean. For instance, if it does only mean the PvP part is competitive then PvE would just be the money maker for the other part of the game that they actually wanted. Otherwise, it could mean that both aspects (PvE/PvP) are meant to be competitive in some way.

And just how is PVE competitive? OMG lets have a race to see who can finish nolani academy first. first grp gets an extra bonus 100 exp. everyone go one 1... sorry but thats gay

Everyone and their brother can do the missions at any time, get their skills at any time, go find/buy weapons at any time, go buy armor at any time (except fissure)... so how is PVE competitive again?

There is no such thing as a PvP only player. That's becuase PvE (as in any MMORPG) comes first, then PvP. You have to play PvE through atleast to Thunderhead Keep to be compitent in PvP.

Most all high ranking GvG teams use their PvE characters. Some durring the GWWC and other occasions were wearing their Fissure of Woe armor. I doubt you 'know enough about PvE' to have that.

As others have said, this is a PvP oriented game. Hence the name, Guild Wars, meaning your Guild has a war with another (GvG). Plus there isn't anything you can do really to compete. PERHAPS a running competition but then those who hate runners would have a fit and those who just farm wouldn't be happy. So as much as I wish I could tell ya something there isn't much to be done.

http://www.guildwiki.org/wiki/The_Guild_Wars

No, the game isn't all about GvG. The name actually refers to PvE 'lore'.

Too many people finish the pve campaingn in missions and quests, after that they farm adn try geting as good as possible. In PvP you can't beat the game but you can beat other Guilds, and the winning guild get 100k distributed around to the members, 12.5k each is eight people...

I guess the fact that someone from IQ admitted they were riding on warriors wearing HoD Helms passed by you entirely. There's an entirely different reason for having a PvE character play PvP, which has been rectified now that the HoD Helm is available to PvP characters. Don't bite your foot as it leaves your mouth, as it could get messy.

I don't know if you're asking me that or ArenaNet. They're the ones that said it, not me (in case you are asking me)..

Fissure of Woe HoD helm? Right...

iQ (a guild that lost easily in Taiwan) had nothing to do with what I was talking about.

Also, you might try pressing the 'Edit' button on your post whenever you think of a new idea, instead of making large groups of your own posts

Well I stand corrected, kind of. I still think this is a PvP oriented game. The PvE is just leading up to and getting everyone ready to PvP.

Yeah, I'm sorry. I'm the first to admit it when I make a mistake. IQ lost in the championship. I should've listened to 'Leaders of the World Unite [UN]' instead. They never lost in the championship so my apologies. Anyhow, I think the useful thoughts have already been poured into this thread.

P.S. I'm sorry Ensign, but he's right. Your guild lost and his guild didn't. :-)

EDIT: (at the request of Sagius) I didn't want to be too obvious Chase so I'd spare feelings, but thanks for driving in the point...

People don't get payed millions because they can play basketball, they get paid millions because they can play it better than anyone else. Same with Guild Wars, players won't get paid because they can play the game (hell, anyone with a computer can), players get the prizes because they've reached a level of gameplay and experience that most will never achive in their gaming lifetime.

That being said Factions looks to offer much more in terms of PvE rewards. The rewards including, having access to towns and outposts as well as more power to whatever side you choose. So I wouldn't fret too much, because it looks like Factions will be rewarding PvE players as well.

I would also like to make the point that the top guilds aren't simply full of good PvPers but good players in general.

I don't see what my guild with 2 people in it not going to the GWWC has anything to do with this conversation. Nice jumping on the band wagon with the person above you, though.

Let's start flinging personal insults because we can't find faults with each others arguments, shall we?

The point of my comment was, you mention iQ using HoD helms as if they were "T3h g0dly". It is obvious that their ploy to take advantage of their PvE characters did not work. Thus, your comment about them wearing the HoD helms is irrelevant.

You are currently tripple off topic. Perhaps you can shift to a relevant disscussion?

It's not even 100k for the winning guild, it's $50k ($6250 per player). And the second guild gets $25k ($3125). So you're not going to make big bucks by playing. Getting a job is easier. :P

I'll tell you why...because PvP needs some sort of palpable reward otherwise what's the point? The reason I don't like PvP is because you do all that work and what do you get for it? A little fame? A little more recognition? Big hairy deal. I want something tangible and I think that's what went on with the monetary prize. I used to PvP and GvG a lot and did well at it but it's just too much work for not enough reward. PvE is its own reward. You do something you get a prize in experience or items.

Problem is: the pve to pvp players ratios is like 100:1, and that's an optimistic ratio.

So basicly they paid the 100k cash from the income that was generated by the pve players buying the game. One way to reward pve players would be some lottery type thing.

Make monsters drop some collectible stuff, but extreamly rarely all over Tyria. First 25 players to collect 5 rotten chicken heads get 2k each, or something similar.

Actually, it did work. It got them to Taiwan and earned 10k (I believe that was the price for the first round). That's still quite an accomplishment. Saying otherwise would be like saying a football team sucked because they made it to the SuperBowl and didn't win.

There used to be video game tournaments way before PvP video games were common place. They just came up with other ways to score them. Again, in Golf people do not race or compete directly with each other. They play the game and whoever plays the game best (in single-player mode so to speak) wins. When 8 guilds get to the championship, they are all given access to a unique mission with certain goals that nobody has seen before. They get to choose which of their characters to party up and how they are going to overcome the mission. Some teams may make mistakes, others may not. Do we attack the front gate and try an all out assault or do we go around the back way? Which team had more deaths/kills. Which team accomplished the most bonus points (multiple bonus objectives within the mission). Did all the teams even complete the mission? Which team completed it in the least amount of time?

Again, there are all kinds of things that could be done. As far as the comments about 'who wants to watch this': Well, it still surprises me to this day that there is an actual channel on cable tv called the Golf Channel. I mean who really gets off watching golf? I then recognize that there are people out there that enjoy things I think are totally stupid. There are things that I enjoy that other people think are totally wastes of time. I recognize my way isn't everyone's way and that the popular way isn't always my way. I know at least one person, and I suspect more, may enjoy watching that kind of championship. Even moreso, I'm sure many people would love to try and compete for it.