55 Monk questions (come here to ask)

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pretty much. its also armor -10 when attacking. Most people would put on 20% enchanting and 10% furious mods. I only use it when putting up skills.

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TurinPT

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Question: If I used a weapon with -1 recieved dmg would the damage reduction happen before or after the protective spirit effect?

BogusDude

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Firstly I'd like to say what great guides you made here with some really helpful instructions.

I've been creating a game guide for our guild members for all kinds of things such as elite skills, farming, green/collector weaps, running etc and have been using various resources such as guru and wiki aswell as my own experiences to help put this together. Its in .pdf format, currently 130 pages and 11Mb. I have a 55HP monk myself and wanted to add all this great stuff to it, so thought it only fair to offer the community the opportunity to use it, i have tried to give credit where i can, but tbh credit is not a priority of mine.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TurinPT
Question: If I used a weapon with -1 recieved dmg would the damage reduction happen before or after the protective spirit effect? before the prot spirit takes effect, same with 'shielding hands'. 5 per hit is the lowest you're going to get (unless you use Aura of the Lich.)

BogusDude

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I would say any melee axe or sword with 15% or greater enchants last longer will be good enough to get started. You could probably happily get away with 10-15% while your training on easy farms until something better drops. I wouldn't recommend a -1hp degen weapon unless you can keep HB up constant and yes you get the degen as soon as you equip the weapon, this may give you energy problems at times when u need to use the energy for attacking. I do have a -1 energy degen shield i use but would again not recommend unless you can maintain energy or drop an enchant or two (i use it for +30HP it gives). I use -50HP, -20HP, 20/20with 0HP, +30HP, +45HP shields for health management. If your down to the last monster or two, or a boss, and your enchants are having little effect your ok to switch to Divine/Smite rod to finish them off, maybe drop some enchs to allow some regen to keep HB & SP up, easier to maintain if you've already died. Alternatively use a staff which also has ench last longer, 20/20 collector staffs are good.

If you have a weap with decent ench on it but giving -1 HP degen, personally i would salvage it and put it on another sword. The swords not there to cause damage its to keep close so your enchants can kill them off (speaking as a Mon/Mes not War).

moriz

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the part i don't understand is, why do 55 monks insist on droks tattoos? since protective spirit limits damage taken regardless of armor, couldn't they just use the LA tattoos and save a boatload of money?

BogusDude

Frost Gate Guardian

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Yep

Personally i use Droks but only have tatoo arms and scalp, they help but not necessarily life and death.

murphyj

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My Mo/E is lvl 13 with drok's asthetics armour. Is he capable of being invincible like a lvl 20 monk?

Tsunami Rain

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Quote:
Originally Posted by murphyj
My Mo/E is lvl 13 with drok's asthetics armour. Is he capable of being invincible like a lvl 20 monk? I wouldnt suggest making an invinci monk with a level 13. I would level your character up to level 20 before doing it. Although you COULD it's not suggested.

1. you dont have all your skill points.
2. you will have problems with your health (too low with all superior runes)
3 if you dont have the money for an extra set of armor you will have to live with 55 gear till you can get enough money.

.killjoy

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Mo/Me

55 monk is usually for the "richer" players in guild wars and if I were you I would get an extra set of armor because you can't 55 everywhere. And yes I would wait till lvl 20 to apply runes.. and if you don't I remeber a guy asking me why he dies when he exits town and I asked him what lvl he was he said lvl 9.. so that didn't help him and he didn't have enough for new armor,so let that be a lesson. (lol)

Runes are getting cheaper so thats good.. and I deleted my 55 monk and now I kinda want to remake... damn!

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.Killjoy, I hope you didn't mind me changing the topic of your thread a bit and stickying it It would save me a lot of time than making a new topic then pinning it. If you want it to stay as a 55 monk question thread please tell me and I'll change it back and make another thread.

.killjoy

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No its cool Tsunami

I have a question for my own thread.. Now I was wondering since I want to remake my 55 monk would LA armor compared to Droks. armor really matter because the soul perpose is to let protective spirit do its work and not really rely on armor for defense but for energy? I bet this is traveling through many other peoples minds, and I was going to go chest from droks. since thats where most of attks are directed too?
And was thinking of maybe using HOD armor.

Thanks.

Tsunami Rain

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use LA Tats. Armor really doesnt matter much when 55ing.

.killjoy

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I'm gonna go with 1 piece of droks.(chest) Leggings from HOD and maybe rest for LA.

Quality

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What is the most useful secondary profession for a 55 monk? I've hear warrior the most i beleive. Also is the -50HP monk spec offhand more expenisve than the -50HP necro spec offhand? Thanks

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Quality
What is the most useful secondary profession for a 55 monk? I've hear warrior the most i beleive. Also is the -50HP monk spec offhand more expenisve than the -50HP necro spec offhand? Thanks Warrior is best if you're planning on going in UW in a 2 man group, because you will 'need' bonettis. For soloing other things you can choose from several choices, including necro (for SS and insideous.)

The monk spec offhand was nerfed very long ago, and is nearly impossible to find anymore (much like the 15% fiery flame spitter.)

MG23

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Join Date: Mar 2006

is it possible to 55 monk at droks and UW with the basic droks armor. I do not want to spend the money for the parchment if i dont absolutely need to. I would be using bonettis defense and balts spirit.

Niosisw

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tsunami Rain
pretty much. its also armor -10 when attacking. Most people would put on 20% enchanting and 10% furious mods. I only use it when putting up skills. Whta do you mean when putting up skills? An invinci monk is always using skills I don't understand

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Quote:
Originally Posted by MG23
is it possible to 55 monk at droks and UW with the basic droks armor. I do not want to spend the money for the parchment if i dont absolutely need to. I would be using bonettis defense and balts spirit.

Ascetic armor (tatoos) provides more energy, which will help you when you're using th 55hp builds. It's not 100% necessary to have it, but it will help a lot, so if you can, get it eventually.

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Whta do you mean when putting up skills? An invinci monk is always using skills I don't understand Use the FFS when you're putting up important skills, like spellbreaker. I generally use my holy rod when just casting HB and PS, since I have a chance for fast cast/recharge on my rod. Also the rod is good for dispatching nightmares, so cast Spellbreaker using your FFS, and then switch to your rod.

.killjoy

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^ Yup fully agree on what he said ffs does help but rod along as secondary is very helpful aswell but always helps if the the necro has a skill like ( power drain ) to interupter the nightmares ( rend enchantments )

Phatmos

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Hi, a few times now with my 55 monk, when i've been running my self to a new outpost or just trying to capture a skill. When I've died, i get the henches to res me, but it takes like 10 times or more for them untill i get resed. Now this time, i've been dead for over an hour, the healer hench have been trying to res me all the time. I get resed, but i die right after, i never get any hp. i see my self stand up, and right after lying dead. Anyone know how to fix this problem, or is it a bug in the game?

.killjoy

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Join Date: Jan 2006

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If you die once you have 1 health point left because of the dp.. and If you die again without getting it back to normal you get resed with ( -negative ) health and we all know thats impossible, and the armor switching trick cannot work since you are rezed for maybe .5 secs if your lucky

Phatmos

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ah, okey. Then i understand, but when me and my friend was getting SoJ, this happened to both of us. But after we tried to get ressed for like 10-20 times. We got ressed, and could keep playing.

Woutsie

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Join Date: Jul 2005

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After soloing in UW today with my 55monk and I decided to try to solo in FoW. All went OK until I met the first Mesmer Bang! Dead!
So, I figured out a way to get passed the Mesmer and I went to the place where the Rangers and Abyssals (sp) are located. That went well, killed them all with no problems. But then another group of Shadow Warriors and Monks showed up. Got passed them too and there was a small group with 1 Mesmer and 2 Ele's I think. Inpossible to get passed them, because the Mesmer would just kill me with his Enchant Remover. I'm just wondering, is there any way that you can get passed them? Maybe by not taking that route and going via the spider cave route?

Also, I don't know what they are called, Undead? Skeletons? The monsters you encounter where the book trick guy quest is located, in that area... The Warriors would be easy to take but from which ones do I have to watch out? The Bonders are monks, what are the other creatures?

3mp7y

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Hi everybody, I'm not really what you could a 55 noob, as i've been solo farmin a lot in easy places ( augury, elona, droks trolls) with my necro, i do use a HOD & a FFS (the nerfed one) just depends of what i'm doing .Anyway, I've been a lot in uw with my necro mostly sa ss/sv and sometimes, to solo farm it a little, more for fun than for anything else cause smites still are really tricky. But, as ss/sv i saw these smites monks usin swords or axes that kills the nightmare in 1 hit, i've searched the forum, and havent been able to find their build? Do someone know it and can he post it here? I'd really like to try, mainly for fun as i think solo uw is damn slow compared with ss & 55.
So please can you help me?

3mp7y

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Quote:
Originally Posted by MG23
is it possible to 55 monk at droks and UW with the basic droks armor. I do not want to spend the money for the parchment if i dont absolutely need to. I would be using bonettis defense and balts spirit.
It's reccomended but not required. My monk currently uses stock droks armor for 55ing and doesn't have much of an energy problem. However, having extra energy will help. If it's money that you are worried about, trust me...you'll gain your money back pretty fast.

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Originally Posted by 3mp7y
Hi everybody, I'm not really what you could a 55 noob, as i've been solo farmin a lot in easy places ( augury, elona, droks trolls) with my necro, i do use a HOD & a FFS (the nerfed one) just depends of what i'm doing .Anyway, I've been a lot in uw with my necro mostly sa ss/sv and sometimes, to solo farm it a little, more for fun than for anything else cause smites still are really tricky. But, as ss/sv i saw these smites monks usin swords or axes that kills the nightmare in 1 hit, i've searched the forum, and havent been able to find their build? Do someone know it and can he post it here? I'd really like to try, mainly for fun as i think solo uw is damn slow compared with ss & 55.
So please can you help me?

3mp7y There has been accounts going around saying that there is a way to kill nightmares in one hit with a sword or axe. There are a few ways to do so but they are a total waste imo as it requires you to either give up skill points or give up a skill on your skill bar. You're better off with 2-3 hit nightmare kills.

TheAlchemist17

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Join Date: Apr 2006

Hi all i have a question,

i use the flame spitter axe and that caesta but when i'm in underworld i can't kill those nm with just that axe so i was wondering if anyone of you guys could tell me what wand i should use..

ty,

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it must do max dmg, and the rest doesnt really matter that much.

TheAlchemist17

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ok thx, but could you give me a name of a green wand that does max dmg?

sno

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Originally Posted by TheAlchemist17
ok thx, but could you give me a name of a green wand that does max dmg? gordac's holy rod or wroths rod will work fine, as long as you put enough points into smiting (9) for wroths.

.killjoy

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Can't kill a night in one hit with sword or axe because your req. wouldn't be high enough for a 55 to do it. But descreate enchantments could own them pretty badly thats what I do when I dual UW with a 55 and I have a interupter just in case.

3mp7y

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Ok thank you all for your answers. I'm gonna try to solo uw but i'm wondering how you can kill the nightmare without the sb as even with a customized max dmg wand you sometimes need 3 hits to kill it.

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Originally Posted by .killjoy
Can't kill a night in one hit with sword or axe because your req. wouldn't be high enough for a 55 to do it. But descreate enchantments could own them pretty badly thats what I do when I dual UW with a 55 and I have a interupter just in case. Actually as i'm often going as ss/sv, i've seen some smites monks killing the nightmares with a sword or an axe, just to let you know it is possible, moreover i've seen that with several kinds of weapons not only hod, but chaos axe, brutes, fellblades.
I'll do dome tests & let you know what i come up with

3mp7y

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Quote:
Originally Posted by 3mp7y
Actually as i'm often going as ss/sv, i've seen some smites monks killing the nightmares with a sword or an axe, just to let you know it is possible, moreover i've seen that with several kinds of weapons not only hod, but chaos axe, brutes, fellblades.
I'll do dome tests & let you know what i come up with

3mp7y
FYI some people use Zealot's Fire to kill the Nightmares, so it might look like they're using their weapon, or they might even be using it, but it's mostly likely not what's doing most of the damage. Of course it's possible for a Mo/W to dump enough (8 or 9 usually) points into Axe/Sword Mastery for it to be possible, but it would be a huge waste and still probably take at least 2 hits. Quote:
Originally Posted by .killjoy
Can't kill a night in one hit with sword or axe because your req. wouldn't be high enough for a 55 to do it. But descreate enchantments could own them pretty badly thats what I do when I dual UW with a 55 and I have a interupter just in case. If you're doing two man use Power Spike so you interrupt and deal damage. Desecrate takes too long to cast to bother with against Nightmares.

.killjoy

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Mo/Me

^ Yea that can work but if you get Desecrate up in time you will rock the nightmare and I have never brought Power Spike with with ss/sv but I will prob. try it out.

Quality

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W/Mo

what is good alternate amror to have for non-55 situations? please include rune upgrade informaiton.

.killjoy

Krytan Explorer

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Mo/Me

I'm not sure what you mean?
Do you mean healer monk?

B Ephekt

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Quality
what is good alternate amror to have for non-55 situations? please include rune upgrade informaiton. Aside from wondering why you decided to ask this in the 55 monk thread, you didn't give enough information for anyone to give you a decent answer.

That said... Get whatever armor you think is best for normal play; some people prefer higher AL, some higher energy. Personally, I prefer energy since a monk shouldn't be taking that much damage in pve to begin with. The choice is entirely yours though, just read the descriptions and figure out what fits your play style best. You’re going to want at least Desert Collector’s AL for end-game areas, although I would go with Drok’s armor if not 15k.

As far as runes go, if you want be a healer go for superior vigor, superior healing prayers and either minor or major divine favor. Throw in a minor protection rune if you really want; they’re cheap and can be pretty useful if you use a prot spell or two.

If you want to be a prot monk, just reverse the scenario and go with a superior protection prayers rune, superior vigor and minor or major divine favor.

Lurid

Lurid

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Join Date: Mar 2006

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I'm curious as to the general consensus on 55 monk weaponry. For general 2 man, and soloing in various places. The reason I ask is alot of builds, depending on situation can require the monk (especially when soloing) to wand one or more attacking monsters to death. I'm thinking of having perhaps, four weapon sets with the following, i'm just looking for some opinions on it if you guys / gals dont' mind to help a 55 noob out, lol.

1. Flamespitter of Enchanting - 20% and Grim Cesta - Minus 50HP
2. Flamespitter of Enchanting - 20% and offhand - Lower HP
3. Wand and Grim Cesta - Minus 50HP
4. Wand and Offhand - Lower HP

Fairly self explanatory, i'm thinking this since the axe not only doesn't have a very wide range of damage, nor will I have any axe mastery invested into it. The wand would be something with most likely a max spell recharge or something along those lines with a req corresponding to my main attribute. The other offhand of course is for if I was to die, so that I could switch it out and keep the DP from killing me, i'm curious if there is such a weapon that I could obtain from a quest, if so please point me in that direction. Thanks in advance!

Tsunami Rain

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lurid
1. Flamespitter of Enchanting - 20% and Grim Cesta - Minus 50HP
2. Flamespitter of Enchanting - 20% and offhand - Lower HP
3. Wand and Grim Cesta - Minus 50HP
4. Wand and Offhand - Lower HP Thats the setup I use. Cept mine goes 1, 3, 2, 4 but order doesn't really make a difference.