Game getting too easy. . .

Todays patch officially made the game just too easy for me. Only 1 infusion run? now you can use signet of Capture on a DEAD hero and pick what you want? A rune trader? I think its time to head to another game, this one is now geared for people under 12.

I agree with you; Villainy is now the quest with the highest experience; 2k would've been way more appropriate.

If you can do one infusion run, you can do five. The extra four are a complete waste of time. Thankfully, it's getting less and less geared to those with no life, no job and no skill.

Aahahahahah... 2 weeks ago people were ranting about the grind in the game, now (tnx god a little minority) they rant for the opposite reason. So now they're unmasked...they liked doing the same things over and over and over again. This is one of the most hilarious things I've ever seen in netgaming!

Keep up the good work Arenanet.

I think the game play is just shifting away from the roleplaying a bit more radically now; The game (I would like to think) is evolving toward pvp more.

I like that alot; most of these updates are great work.

AHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!

Sorry for the caps, it was needed....this man is a genius! This is a perfect definition of what Arenanet is going to do...

Hahaha. Troll.

Seriously, you don't honestly think any of the above makes the game any easier, do you? Certainly not in any significant way. As someone else said, if you can do one infusion run, you can do five, the extra four were not making the game any harder, just more tedious; therefore, removing the extra four runs doesn't make the game any easier, just less tedious. Likewise the Signet of Capture system has been made less tedious without in any way decreasing actual game difficulty. And as for runes, it's certainly more convenient to buy them from a trader than from a random trade channel player spamming WTS messages, but how has this affected the game difficulty?

The game is becoming more geared towards people over 25. People who have lives and jobs and children and more important things to do than rerun the same damn mission five times.

I have to agree with Cerby. Now....

IT'S CONSTRUCTIVE CRITISISM TIME!

If any action is made to make the game harder, the people who want to play an easy game will get angry.

If any action is made to make the game easier, the people who want to play a hard game will get angry.

My solution, have a server running modified rules (all execept PvP rules, which should remain unchanged) with hard bosses, and the old SoC system.

There is a rune trader? Since when + where?

EDIT: oh, today? I haven't been on and wont be for a couple of days

since now + at least ascalon and lions arch.

EDIT:: wasnt sure, ascalon and lions arch were the only two places i've visited. I've since gotten off the game to let the hype die down a bit before returning.

all of the "capitals" have them all the traders.

I'd just like to take a moment to say that "roleplaying" is NOT grinding and farming.

I really have no interest in PvP, and believe me, I'm still extremely happy with this last update. PvE folks have real lives too, you know. ^-^

Hopefully you speak of a game like Natural Selection or Starcraft, rather than an even-less-skillful game like WoW or EQ2.

Grinding does not equal skill. Grinding is unnecessary monotony - a waste of time.

Or perhaps you'd like to explain how doing more than 1 infusion run - the exact same way each time - makes this game hard. Perhaps you'd also like to explain how farming mobs for Runes took skill, and not simple repetition. And lastly, explain what exactly was so hard about the old SoC system - personally I nearly never failed to cap a skill from a boss I wanted one from, so it certainly wasn't a particularly skilled aspect of the game.

Owned

Well....doing ascenscion runs in 3 hours instead of the usual 4-5 is quite an accomplishment...

I totally agree. And I aint even in that catagory! I play this game cos I'm housebound, it's different every day and it keeps me interested.

This is not a pay monthly, grind filled, Pvp, farming NIGHTMARE of a MMORPG for 13-17 year old arrogant whelps. It's a game designed for those who've TRIED past MMORPG's and found them a little too immature. It's a game of strategy and I would suggest it to those who steer towards that genre when buying computer games. Anyone who doesn't like to think, doesn't like to work and likes it all handed to them on a platter easy as pie... will not like everything about this game.

And if you don't.. buy another one! It's that simple.

its not the fact of it being hard to cap a signet now its like your handed an elite skill rather than loading your cap signet in hopes of getting it and your group not dying before you get your skill, i for one had no problem with the old way , but now a-net makes it trivial to get elites, (ELITE) understand the meaning of the word, its not something thats supposed to be easy to get, and as for you whiners who are "CASUAL" gamers who whine about people who farm and stuff like that, im a father of a 2 yr old boy, work, and i still find time to sit and play GW, and farm a little until the patch now i cant farm jack cant get my 15k armor, unless i ebay some cash, (which i wont do btw) the whole rune thing is ultra dumb imo, i also am getting sick of this game, its trivial i have 3 lvl 20's what am i gonna do go make another character so i can run through the SAME missions and SAME quest and look at the SAME npc's and deal with the SAME nubs on a mission who cant listen to mesicde i did this mission 3 times before, and dont say unlock new spells because with my 20 i can sit there make skill pts and go do 2nd proff change and unlock all the skills in the world, i bought a second account for gw to play since i liked it so much a week ago, now.....im sorry i did that because after this update (which IMO is retarded) i wont be playing the game as much as i used to. i know it wont hurt a-net because they made their cash already (50$xALOT OF PEOPLE,AND COUNTING) dont get me wrong i like the game its setup nice the pvp is nice but i mean HANDING runes out is lame,now what can a lvl 20 look foward to? fighting in HoH? been there,done that,pvp char?,been there done that,starting a new char? lol for what?And for all the people who think their "HARDCORE RPGERS" who wanna talk smack i been playing rpgs for a loooong time, the games pointless now might as well just give everyone a sup rune of vigor.
My 2 cents
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The post above yours.. at the end... this game aint for you, mate

Today's patch has TOTALLY made the game WAY to easy...it has nerfed the entire idea of working to make your character good. Heck, if I wanted to play a game where everyone was an uber character I'd play Call of Duty or any one of the other THOUSAND FPS's out there...next patch they may as well just unlock EVERYTHING, do away with pre searing altogether, open up the whole map and all the cities beacause evidently it's too hard for some people to actually PLAY the game...even better - just scrap the whole PVE part and just make it strictly PVP and all you just pick what mix of professions you want and you automatically have all the best skills etc...oh wait - that's called Unreal Tournament...

Exactly how has it made it easy? Runes still cost money that most people don't have. The armor infuse run was just annoying to do it 5 times, not harder. Also remember that there may be big plans for this game, and they're just making the stuff now a bit easier to get cos new stuff could be on it's way in a few months.
People moan that they find it boring to level new chars up. Well now you know that when you find a minor rune or a mjor that no-one wants, you can sell it for some decent cash. Also that you can now apply runes to lower level characters. I think that's pretty neat. No more waiting till level 20 to start enjoy some benefits of the game.

4000 exp for Villany quest?? That's a gimme...

Rune TRADERS? Well, whats the point of trying to find them now that you can just buy them?

No more "Capture" to the Capture Signet? Cmon...it shouldn't be called a capture signet anymore it should be called a "grab any skill off a dead corpse signet"

They are appeasing those who whine about actually having to PLAY the game to get good stuff or have a good character. If you want to play a game where you don't have to invest any time or effort into getting a good character - go play Unreal Tournament.

I had 4 minor runes sitting in my bag and a major that I ABSOLUTELY could NOT sell until now; I love the idea totally.

hey if enough of people that hate this new patch email ArenaNet about how the patch make the game too easy, than.. maybe it might take away the rune trader and the capture skills ability.. but think about, if you want to get those stuff in the first place, you would have to grind and play for HOURS and hours.. till you get enough gold or material to craft those rune... than you got bunch of people that whine about it

Dramatic Demonstration
"OMG... i spend 50 hours and i finally got my major rune in whatever... damn Anet for making me to grind!! DAMN THEM!! :

End of demonstration

the point that Anet is doing this patch is to make it a bit easy for people to get rune.. hell my character doesn't even got one rune on me, and im in old ascalon and most people in the town has... 5 or 10 rune on them...

if you don't like the game because of the patch than go play something else.. like counter strike.. or WoW (don't want to start a flame war.. but hey in my view people all complain about the patch, usually mean that you are pretty much done with the game or got bored of it)

ps. i got no problem with the rune trade, in fact, i only wish i got gold to buy rune, only got 330 gold on me!

Wtf, they have as much a voice as you do; they can voice their opinion even if it's negative.

If you people complaining that the game is too easy because you don't have to grind for stuff now, why don't you just play every mission 5 times with only 5 skills on your skill bar and leave the rest of us alone. No one is keeping you from grinding and farming on your own if you want, but the great thing is now we DON'T have to farm and waste our time.

Too many whining posts. It's a shame, but everyone who wasn't whining about grinding, is whining now. Everyone who WAS.. loves the new patch.

Sheesh ya can't please everyone, guys

Trust me, some of these will be locked.

1) I have not yet done the villany quest but from what I understand it was pretty diffucult, I agree that 4k may be a little much however, 2k or even 1k might have been suffeciant.

2) The whole point of trying to find runes now is to unlock them for your PvP account. It's the award that alot of people out there were complaining about losing with an Unlock all skills button for the PvP only players. A.net can't and probably wont get rid of this although its my understanding that there will be changes to it in the near future.

I cant and wont address the signet of capture thing, I'm not sure of it and dont have enough info on it to go off of in order to make any kind of stand on it. I do belive however that people should let it go for a week or two and see the overall effect on the game before jumping to conclusions, at this point, anything thats being said is only speculation, not fact.

EDIT:: heres to hoping *raises a glass of wine*

Dry your tears and play a more challenging game, like WoW, where you step outside town and instead of seeing the friendly glow of your local respawn station, you get ganked. Hard enough for you?

I don't understand, I don't understand, for the love of whatever god I just do not understand!

If you want a game that rewards time invested, go play any other MMO on the market right now.

If you do NOT want a game that rewards time invested, shut up, sit down and keep playing GW.

Am I speaking Mursaat here?

Ok - since you don't understand I'll spell it out for you - GW had what I considered a really good balance initially between those who wanted to be rewarded for time played AND for those who wanted to jump in and just go. But the latest patch clearly skewed that balance in favor of those who just want to have everything unlocked for them and have uber characters immidiately accessable etc...go play Unreal Tournament if you don't want to work at building your character.

I like the new patch so far. The Signet of Capture now rewards you for killing bosses. Before people could run through, train a bunch of enemies, grab an elite from a boss and warp out. Now they actually have to ensure that they either
1) Don't aggro ANYTHING up to the boss.
or
2) Kill off anything they do aggro up to the boss.

This makes some skills harder to get and some easier. I was having a terrible time trying to get Grenth's Balance from the Facet of Darkness. With the new patch, I finally was able to get it. It also goes for Aura of the Lich, which when used once by the boss who uses it in Ring of Fire, he wouldn't use it again for a LONG time.

It also makes more sense that a reward for killing a boss, is that you get to loot his skills. And if you don't kill the boss, you have no right to his skills. I bet Warriors are LOVING it.

I'd have to be in favor of free speech here also...

But I do like the patch. I sold all my runes I had stored up today at trader, and got like 10-11k . What I think they should do for signet of capture is make it so you can capture skill while they are alive and using it OR after they are dead. Problem solved...

And the rune trader doesn't unlock the runes, just makes it so you can buy them... buying off trader is less hassle than buying from a moron in LA. So, yes, it is easier.

No, it took a step toward allowing PvP players to not have to constantly replay a portion of the game they don't like in order to play the game they want. You can't really jump in and just go, the premade builds are all pretty subpar except for the Boon Healer and the Trapper (Which you can rework into a good disrupter fairly easily, as well). There was absolutely no balance between those who wanted to play, and those who wanted to jump right in, because they still needed to unlock stuff.

The players who were/are complaining about grind would much rather 'build their character' by testing out different builds, skills, team designs, etc. al
Rather than shooting the same mob in the face 400 times. I can understand their plight. I personally enjoy both aspects of the game and think everyone should play through the PvE once (its not that bad), but after that.....why should people have to do things they don't like? PvErs don't have to PvP if they don't want, why should PvPers not have the same option available to them?

there all pretty much right i wanted a game were u can work hard and become good this now requires little effort the rune trader is an ok idea because now i can sell runes that no one wants

thatz pretty much my 2 cents......

A solid argument... I have to agree with that

They do.. it's called the pub

This is exactly what I don't understand. An RPG (which GW claims to be) has always been about building your character. Hunting and finding things etc to make him better. Yes PVP is part of that as well but still it's about the character you ahve worked on and built going up against someone else's. If you don't want to play that kind of game then try out HalfLife or Unreal Tournament where you don't have to build your character. You can PVP till your herarts content.

All it amounts to is ANet making it easier for people who don't want to actually invest time in their character to be as good as those of us who do like to actually spend time building ours. And that's cool. If that's what GW is going to be about - great - some of us will perhaps move on to other MMO's and just step into GW every now and then to get a little PVP on instead of actually playing and building guilds and communities etc within the game. Kinda like jsut logging into the Call of Duty server of the day for a few rounds of capture the flag.

"I haven't played GW in a few months - let me log in and...OH! Look at this - I can now be a level 35 super uber character - cool - let me max everything out - get the latest leet runes - and...sweet! Now lets go capture a flag or two"

So much for "playing" the game...

Not this RPG.

Yeah, let's drag it back into this old slugfest. We should be playing Counterstrike and you should be playing Everquest, okay? There, settled.

You may want to get started on that, then. Because that's what GW has always been about.

Wow. Okay... If that's really what you expected, there's no hope for you.

I like both PvE and PvP (minority. w00t!), and honestly, I couldn't give a shit which way the devs "lean to". If the make it strict PvP, I'll buy a roleplaying game to play in addition to GW. If they make it PvE, I'll play Call of Duty or some other random FPS along with GW. I really don't care either way.

This is what I am saying you dolt - this patch just opened up a lot of peoples eyes as to what GW is REALLY trying to be...geez - do you not understand what you read or are you just that full of teenage angst that you only want to flame? Good lord get a life.