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Mistress Eyahl

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01 Jul 2005 at 03:43 - 283

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Originally Posted by HellRaiser

Do you defend the guy who swims in a ocean full of sharks and gets his leg bitten off by a shark? Who do you blame for that one.

Lol I gotta answer this one though.

Um, when did sharks ever have a conscience? You're comparing people playing a computer game, making their own decisions.. to an animals driven by instinct alone.

Poor.

/end of

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Edit: And you're deluded if you think I was anjoying our "Nice debate".
Your narrow mindedness made me want to rip my hair out after a few posts. Can't believe people who think like you exist.

HellRaiser

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01 Jul 2005 at 03:43 - 284

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Originally Posted by Mormegil

Hey, he skipped grammar, forum rules and simple education too, don't feel unique you arrogant guy!

I do not see where my grammar is that bad.

ManadartheHealer

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01 Jul 2005 at 03:43 - 285

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Originally Posted by HellRaiser

Oh NOES!!!!! A grammar insult!

You must be losing the argument; you posted 3 times in a row

QTFsniper

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01 Jul 2005 at 03:43 - 286

Quote:

Originally Posted by HellRaiser

Oh NOES!!!!! A grammar insult!

WHAT DID I JUST SAY?!
It was NOT an insult. Now shut up kid. It was usefull advice. It's not my fault you didnt take it well. There was no sarcasm implied.

aeroclown

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01 Jul 2005 at 03:45 - 287

ok ok

, Slowly Kicks the cage one last time and runs away to watch from a distance.

HellRaiser

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01 Jul 2005 at 03:45 - 288

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mistress Eyahl

Lol I gotta answer this one though.

Um, when did sharks ever have a conscience? You're comparing people playing a computer game, making their own decisions.. to an animals driven by instinct alone.

Poor.

/end of

Never said animals have a consience i said do you blame the guy for going into shark infested waters then getting his leg bitten off. Do you blame the shark or do you blame man. Just like internet gamming, There are alot of scammers, grifters out there.

What im trying to say if you didnt get it so far is that shark = scammer.

HellRaiser

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01 Jul 2005 at 03:46 - 289

Quote:

Originally Posted by QTFsniper

WHAT DID I JUST SAY?!
It was NOT an insult. Now shut up kid. It was usefull advice. It's not my fault you didnt take it well. There was no sarcasm implied.

There is a difference between internet slang/typos and wrighting on a job application. If i type well will you guys pay me 30$ an hour?

Dusk_

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01 Jul 2005 at 03:46 - 290

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mistress Eyahl

Lol I gotta answer this one though.

Um, when did sharks ever have a conscience? You're comparing people playing a computer game, making their own decisions.. to an animals driven by instinct alone.

Poor.

/end of

Although, he could be comparing Online Gamers to sharks. We do have that whole "trust no one in case they stab you in the back and dance in your skin" mentality.

Then again, that would be giving him credit

.

EDIT: Ah, apparently he should get credit. But your analogy is bad. It should be more like "Do you blame the a guy who swims with dolphins and then gets his leg bitten off by a shark?".

HellRaiser

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01 Jul 2005 at 03:46 - 291

Quote:

Originally Posted by ManadartheHealer

You must be losing the argument; you posted 3 times in a row

As the grammar insulting was posted 10 times in a row by various people.

HellRaiser

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01 Jul 2005 at 03:47 - 292

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Originally Posted by Dusk_

Although, he could be comparing Online Gamers to sharks. We do have that whole "trust no one in case they stab you in the back and dance in your skin" mentality.

Then again, that would be giving him credit

.

Ah ha so you do agree with me you just dont want to admit it because they majority are against me, and you sir are a follower and not a leader. You have to follow the majority.

Paladin_Adoni

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01 Jul 2005 at 03:48 - 293

you gotta look at it from a different point of view :

it is just a game, but its the underlying morals that I think most people "for" this thread are trying to argue.

insults arent that bad, although totally uncalled for. as the person slinging the insults generally knows nothing about you, the insults are half assed or very run-of-the-mill.
(as a note, anyone who insults me in the game badly, gets it back 20 fold. so many poeple who have insulted me in-game have blocked me to stop the return insults

you never know, maybe he/she will think twice before insulting the next person)

Scamming someone, thieving, and misleading someone is low, VERY low. if you dont care what people think of you in-game, what about the other innocents in the game, who are viewed with suspicion, because of your devious acts? all for what? gold, an item, to skip a section of the game? this is where your own argument comes back at you ITS A GAME, if you dont want to play it how its supposed to be played (and scamming and stealing is NOT how its supposed to be played) you need to stop playing online games!

"do unto others as you would have them do to you" Luke 6:31

an old and simple way of thought that is not nullified because your in a game....

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01 Jul 2005 at 03:49 - 294

Quote:

Originally Posted by HellRaiser

Ah ha so you do agree with me you just dont want to admit it because they majority are against me, and you sir are a follower and not a leader. You have to follow the majority.

I editted my last post a little

.

And while I agree with you in that the internet is a very volatile place, the point of this thread is saying that the internet shouldn't be. The ocean is full of sharks because they think that the hunters won't get rid of them.

QTFsniper

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01 Jul 2005 at 03:51 - 295

Quote:

Originally Posted by HellRaiser

There is a difference between internet slang/typos and wrighting on a job application. If i type well will you guys pay me 30$ an hour?

Where the hell are you workin at for $30 an hour. A person like you isnt going to be hired anywhere where you need to interact with people. You + other people = disaster

Gilg Amesh

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01 Jul 2005 at 03:51 - 296

Wow.Why do all forum threads seem to end like this?
Where's the love?

And for where I stand on this issue, your online persona is a reflection of your RL character. I feel the same guilt in the game if I made a mistake in battle that cost the team a win then if I would have missed a jump shot at the end of a ball game at my local courts. When I help people out in game to get to the next area(without a "fee"), their gratitude makes me just as happy as helping a classmate through his studies. And if someone starts being a dick, and says stupid comments about people for no good reason, it offends me just as much in real life. Don't worry I know it's "just a game", and I don't take it too seriously, but someone who takes pleasure in the pain of others ingame should really ask themselves why they do it. There's enough of that crap in the real world, most of us come here to get away from all that.

HellRaiser

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01 Jul 2005 at 03:52 - 297

true dusk the internet should not be...but there is nothing we can do about it, hell would freeze over 5 times before the internet because a beautiful place.

PieXags

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01 Jul 2005 at 03:52 - 298

Oh my God...it's happening again...

People, we had enough horrible comparisons in the negative feelings about the update thread...please...for the love of God...or for me.

Don't start using them again.

I beg of you.

aeroclown

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01 Jul 2005 at 03:53 - 299

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gilg Amesh

Wow.Why do all forum threads seem to end like this?
Where's the love?

And for where I stand on this issue, your online persona is a reflection of your RL character. I feel the same guilt in the game if I made a mistake in battle that cost the team a win then if I would have missed a jump shot at the end of a ball game at my local courts. When I help people out in game to get to the next area(without a "fee"), their gratitude makes me just as happy as helping a classmate through his studies. And if someone starts being a dick, and says stupid comments about people for no good reason, it offends me just as much in real life. Don't worry I know it's "just a game", and I don't take it too seriously, but someone who takes pleasure in the pain of others ingame should really ask themselves why they do it. There's enough of that crap in the real world, most of us come here to get away from all that.

/signed and signed again

HellRaiser

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01 Jul 2005 at 03:53 - 300

Quote:

Originally Posted by QTFsniper

Where the hell are you workin at for $30 an hour. A person like you isnt going to be hired anywhere where you need to interact with people. You + other people = disaster

An you act as if the way i act in a online video game such as guildwars is going to effect how i act with people in real life? Please stop intertwining Online gamming with real life.

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01 Jul 2005 at 03:56 - 301

Quote:

Originally Posted by HellRaiser

An you act as if the way i act in a online video game such as guildwars is going to effect how i act with people in real life? Please stop intertwining Online gamming with real life.

You know you want to talk like you do here in real life. The only different thing is that you're scared to do it because you know you'll be criticized face to face.

Flamingpeanut

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01 Jul 2005 at 03:56 - 302

OMG...
Hellraiser, how did you just sit here for 3 hours and argue your narrow minded, extremely flawed point?

Alderman Sweet

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01 Jul 2005 at 03:58 - 303

This thread has many grammatical words, plus bonus leg-eating sharks.

HellRaiser

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01 Jul 2005 at 03:58 - 304

Quote:

Originally Posted by QTFsniper

You know you want to talk like you do here in real life. The only different thing is that you're scared to do it because you know you'll be criticized face to face.

Maybe i just dont take the internet serious like you do.

HellRaiser

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01 Jul 2005 at 03:59 - 305

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Originally Posted by Flamingpeanut

OMG...
Hellraiser, how did you just sit here for 3 hours and argue your narrow minded, extremely flawed point?

Like i said i just had major surgery on my arm and i cant even go back to work in a month, so i have nothing better to do then get you E-nerds riled up!!! RA RA!

Aniewiel

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01 Jul 2005 at 03:59 - 306

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I agree with you in that I believe that people should act civilly towards each other, online or no, but I have to ask... What was the purpose in you posting this? People will be jerks on the internet and in real life, pointing out that they are jerks isn't going to make them amend their ways. In my opinion, the best way to deal with them is to ignore them. A lot of the people that act like jerks on the internet do it because they enjoy getting a rise out of people who are offended by their actions or words, telling them that they are rude or responding with insults will just let them know that you're a good person to pick on and that they have a lot more fun with you if they can continue pushing your buttons.

I said this about 8 pages ago but it just won't stop. What is the point, people? You're not going to change HR's mind nor will he change yours/mine/ours. Perhaps it's time to stop beating a dead horse?

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01 Jul 2005 at 03:59 - 307

Quote:

Originally Posted by HellRaiser

Maybe i just dont take the internet serious like you do.

Maybe you do but you just wont admit it. You know you do. Otherwise, we wouldnt be having this conversation.

Flamingpeanut

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01 Jul 2005 at 04:00 - 308

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alderman Sweet

This thread has many grammatical words, plus bonus leg-eating sharks.

Give me a set of steak knives too and I'll stay.

Mistress Eyahl

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01 Jul 2005 at 04:00 - 309

Quote:

Originally Posted by HellRaiser

An you act as if the way i act in a online video game such as guildwars is going to effect how i act with people in real life? Please stop intertwining Online gamming with real life.

Why are you being someone you're not then? You're arguing a point for a persona that isn't even you. What.. a waste of time.

Or are you going to admit this is you.

Paladin_Adoni

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01 Jul 2005 at 04:02 - 310

the only reason you would talk like this on the internet or in a game is because you get enjoyment out of it. deep down you LIKE to put people down. that underlying emotion is part of the structure of your true personality, and the fact that you dont THINK you are an asswhole in real life, doesnt mean that you aren't one.

remember, what you think of yourself, and what others think of you are not always the same.

DarrenJasper

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01 Jul 2005 at 04:02 - 311

To all the people who have PMed me (except Eyahl

): I am not going to wade through 13 pages of pitched battle just to fight with a bunch of ideologues. I applaud Hellraiser's valor in this thread and he deserves a lot of credit for going this long against so many opponents (especially ones who dodge the issue as much as these) but I don't scrap with sycophants (especially idealist sycophants). It's not my style.

HellRaiser

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01 Jul 2005 at 04:03 - 312

Why dont you guys trying insulting online, you may like it.

Alderman Sweet

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01 Jul 2005 at 04:04 - 313

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flamingpeanut

Give me a set of steak knives too and I'll stay.

I used the last steak knife to carve out my eyes.

QTFsniper

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01 Jul 2005 at 04:04 - 314

Quote:

Originally Posted by HellRaiser

Why dont you guys trying insulting online, you may like it.

Hey how about you not avoid these posts. I want to see your reply

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mistress Eyahl

Why are you being someone you're not then? You're arguing a point for a persona that isn't even you. What.. a waste of time.

Or are you going to admit this is you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paladin_Adoni

the only reason you would talk like this on the internet or in a game is because you get enjoyment out of it. deep down you LIKE to put people down. that underlying emotion is part of the structure of your true personality, and the fact that you dont THINK you are an asswhole in real life, doesnt mean that you aren't one.

remember, what you think of yourself, and what others think of you are not always the same.

Paladin_Adoni

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01 Jul 2005 at 04:04 - 315

give me your new IGN hellraiser, or stop hiding from me with "offline" status, and I will "try insulting online"

Mistress Eyahl

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01 Jul 2005 at 04:04 - 316

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarrenJasper

To all the people who have PMed me (except Eyahl

): I am not going to wade through 13 pages of pitched battle just to fight with a bunch of ideologues. I applaud Hellraiser's valor in this thread and he deserves a lot of credit for going this long against so many opponents (especially ones who dodge the issue as much as these) but I don't scrap with sycophants (especially idealist sycophants). It's not my style.

Cos it's so hard to be a jackass.

Come on, Jessie, you're saying he's a great bloke cos of the same reasons you think you're a great bloke. It's easy to be the bad guy, it's harder to be the good guy and retain some respect.

Woopdedoo.. go read your fan mail

Aniewiel

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01 Jul 2005 at 04:06 - 317

Why don't YOU, HellRaiser, and the rest of you all who will not stop this circular argument, take it to PMs.

My vote would be for the admins or mods to lock this thread. While I was all for it in the beginning, foolishly thinking something useful might actually emerge, it has turned into a flame war and isn't going anywhere. Certainly nothing of any value has been said for the last 4-5 pages.

DarrenJasper

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01 Jul 2005 at 04:07 - 318

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mistress Eyahl

Woopdedoo.. go read your fan mail

What an excellent idea!

HellRaiser

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01 Jul 2005 at 04:08 - 319

Because qtf sniper what is the use if i reply to them or not, you will still see if your way and only your way, this has been a long thread. I will not stop insulting people online and you all will continue living in your fairy land, thats how its going to be.

My online persona in a video game is much more different then my real life one, because i know if i find gold in guildwars i cant give that to the tax man, i cant give that to my mortgage company i cant give that to my electric company.

Flamingpeanut

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01 Jul 2005 at 04:09 - 320

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Originally Posted by Aniewiel

Certainly nothing of any value has been said for the last 4-5 pages.

I think 4-5 is being a bit liberal. Try 12-13...

Mormegil

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01 Jul 2005 at 04:09 - 321

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarrenJasper

To all the people who have PMed me (except Eyahl

): I am not going to wade through 13 pages of pitched battle just to fight with a bunch of ideologues. I applaud Hellraiser's valor in this thread and he deserves a lot of credit for going this long against so many opponents (especially ones who dodge the issue as much as these) but I don't scrap with sycophants (especially idealist sycophants). It's not my style.

Hey, you're taking the matter too seriously. Some of us just had fun and laughed like crazy at HR's english grammar. He's of course undefendable, but I respect others' opinions like yours, even when they look, smell and feel bad.

Aniewiel

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01 Jul 2005 at 04:09 - 322

Eyahl, to you in particular, it's too bad your original post and its intention was lost. All of us are, to one degree or another, responsible for its degeneration into a flame war. I apologize for my part in it. Perhaps it can be taken up another day, in another place, without the necessity of name calling and insulting. *shrugs*