How to kill Doppelganger - Guide to all classes

elenna

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

PHC

I took my Mo/E doppelganger out with:

Retribution
Zealot's Fire
Balthazar's Aura
Symbol of Wrath
Reversal of Fortune

My doppleganger went down before my balthazar's aura had recharged.

Are Cane

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

California

Legio X

E/Me

I took out my doppelganger out with my E/Me:

Flare
Aura of Restoration
Gyph of Lesser Energy
Meteor
Fireball
Inferno
Meteor Shower
and Resurection Signet

I had forgotten to switch to Air Elementalist so I just cast Aura first then Meteor Shower, Meteor, Fireball, ran up to it and did Inferno, and ran back out and pounded it with flares.

Fatalis

Fatalis

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Riga, Latvia

E/R

For elementalists the best way is properly using Ether Renewal with * Attunement and Aura of Restoration, and any damage skills.

minky

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/E

I took advice from thread and on the second attempt I beat her. Used Holy something(wrath ?) and Retribution before entering the temple with her. Also brought some useless heal spell that does a small area.... Hit her with my wand of smiting until she croaked. Close call though...
Cranked up smiting skill prior also.

Thanks for the tips. Glad to be past her....

Yen-lo-wang

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Team Play First

Quote:
Originally Posted by arnansnow
The Mirror uses an axe, so if you bring axe skills he can use them. You were luckly I guess.
He got off three Cyclone Axes and *somehow* an Executioner's Strike before I beat him down... 31 seconds, the standing record in my guild. Used my standard build at the time and had zero problem.

funbun

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

I forget. Really. I don't know.

Mo/

Yeah, Monks must crank up smite. You don't need your secondary.

Mesmerized

Mesmerized

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

Order of the Temple [Temp]

Mo/

mes has to be the easiest, hex breaker before, the second you get in backfire him with fastcast and then empathy, and he should beat himself down to almost 1/4th or less just with attempting to cast. if backfire runs out, finish him off with a powerspike.

beat my double in 14 sec i think

Yunalesca

Yunalesca

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

michigan

Shinra Faction

Mo/Me

i don't even know what the sytem is here, but i beat mine in about 2 secs after about 15+ times dying dying dying with the same strategy. pretty hit or miss with my mesmer. but in the end it was hex breaker+backfire and every blood sacrifice spell i had

Silver Edge

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2005

For my ele, I spread my points in energy storage, air and fire.
Had blinding flash and conjure flame on my skill bar. Filled the rest of my skill bar with useless skills.
Bring a max damage fire wand or staff. Cast blinding flash on him at start, then conjure flame. Now periodically cast blinding flash on him keeping him blind while you use your fire staff or wand to kill him.

Level Moron

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

Darker Visions

Mo/N

http://www.guild-hall.net/forum/show...ghlight=mirror
the way to kill him for monks

Kool Pajamas

Kool Pajamas

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2005

Maryland

Mage Elites [MAGE]

For my E/Me, I used Backfire as soon as I got in and then empathy right after that and he was gone just 1 second after I casted empathy. I also put in some useless mesmer and ele skills that do little damage. I didnt put any attributes into any ele skills. I just loaded up on domination magic.

Deltu

Deltu

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

Eternel Flames

Mo/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zuggy
For monks: crank up smiting and bring holy wrath and retribution. Then cast them right before you activate the mesa.
I have a better way so you can bash his head in quick. Bring a good dmg weapon(if secondary ranger, bow works best) and max up in divine favor. Bring Divine Boon and Healing Breeze and cast Boon on ytouirself. Then charge him with the weapon(dont bring any spells but breeze and boon) and kick his ass. Takes 10 second max

Fenris Lightbow

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2005

TUS

R/Mo

As a Ranger/Monk I loaded up my bar with Ranger preps and healing breeze. I found that he/it would spend lots of time casting the preps while I shot him. However, once he started shooting at me he was MUCH better than I. So, my daughter suggested I just charge him. He pulled out the axe and started hitting me. Since I have no axe skills he was pathetic with it. Oh sure he was doing damage to me, but rather than doing +96 with a bow he was doing +12 with the axe. My bow was doing +30 or so. It was then just a matter of time. Healing breeze brought me back up and he never seemed to get to it once we were engaged he just used the axe.

Cartoonhero

Cartoonhero

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Sooner Nation

Mo/

well, i havent heard to many strategies for a warrior, so here's mine.

take in all the weapon skills you normally use, and your healing signet. i personally use an axe, as does the mirror so yea. but the one skill you must bring with all this is distracting blow.

go in, and start wailing away with all your skills, if he tries to heal, just whack him with distracting blow. he wont heal then. apparently the double doesnt use this, as i was able to heal myself once. and thats all it took. like 30sec and he was dead.

JoDiamonds

JoDiamonds

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

New England

The Doppleganger moves sometimes now. I don't know when this change happened, but my ElMe saw him actually run out from my meteor shower. He stood in it a while, so I'm not sure what triggered him running -- I still beat him without much trouble by using both Empathy and Backfire.

Hailfall

Hailfall

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Germany

Phantom Commando

N/

Ok I am a N/Mo and I have serious trouble killing my doppleganger. I tried up to 10 times now and have blood sacrifice spells in my spellslot (Blood Ritual, Blood of the Master, Signet of Agony and Plague sending) but my doppleganger wont use them and just disable me with his damned bow..

Someone an idea for me how to take him out? Might it also be because I do not have any attribute points in Blood Magic that he doesnt cast anything.. ?

tracy

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

Me/Mo

i fought my mirror without using any skills. (i'm a w/e, which is lame)

i believe the bring a hammer and hammer skills because your mirror only uses an axe/axe skills method doesn't work. i guess anet changed it because i got this one hammer right but i forgot to equip with me( -_- ) and i had put in all these hammer skills in my bar lol. so i went in there with my axe and a bunch of hammer skills. so i'm like "shit i'm a stupid @&!&^%" then i decided i might as well try since the fool was attacking me with his arrows. so i start using my axe on him. he uses his AND hammer attacks. by this point i'm like "wtf i'm screwed." but i magically kill him off in a minute with my axe

i'm not sure why this happened though maybe because i didn't change my attribute points. i had like 12 on axe mastery, 11 on strength, and 3 or so in tactics. the mirror has the same attribute levels right?

you should try it out lol.

heist23

Journeyman

Join Date: Jul 2005

R/Mo

as a r/mo it took me about 12 tries to finally figure out the truth: that thing would always kick my ass if i brought healing spells.

so, i piled up on damaging bow attacks and distracting shot.

charge the doppelganger, and the game is over.

Charcoal Ann

Charcoal Ann

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

In a World of BADGERS!

Eternal Flame Brotherhood

the way i beat him with a necro was to crank up curses and bring price of failure.
then just hit qeqeqeqeqeqeqeqe etc to dodge the doppels ranged attacks... she goes down quick... blood sacrifice spells help as well (as long as they don't heal in any way shape or form).

you just let them kill themselves

aeronox

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

as a mesmer/ele (didnt try using ele skills), i just used empathy and distortion. with other strats i kept dying when he got at about 10% health... but casting distortion repeatedly, i dodged almost all arrows and defeated him with 75% of my health still. much easier than worrying about enchantments; stances are instantaneous.
with my monk, all i needed was healing breeze and retribution.

as a side note, i now fully appreciate the value of distortion

Uber Aftermath

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2005

CANADA

Gryffindor Guild [Lion]

W/Mo

heres a less confusing way:

bring all skills that deal damage, and hit him wit heverything at once, dont bother about healing skills

Mike Legend

Mike Legend

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

Edinburgh, UK

Greei Guild

E/Me

With my Fire Ele, I only took in Firestorm and Meteor Shower. I took out all my other skills and left them blank. It took me 9 seconds to kill my doppleganger because he just stood there and let Meteor Shower knock him over, so I just cast a quick Firestorm to finish him off and there you go. Easy.

Blow Up Doll

Blow Up Doll

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

Oxford - England

R/

[QUOTE=ZD_kusanagi]

Warrior:
This one i a bit harder than the others. since it relies on random damage spikes basically. Bring whatever you think you can do more damage to him before he can do to you. My best advice for this battle, is don't bring any healing skills or spells. Computers have very high attribute points in most of the skills you would bring, so he woul just wear you down.

QUOTE]

He doesnt use healing breeze so bring that

Synergie

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Hi I've done the searches and read all the advice and Im still dead in 8 seconds.

I'm a mesmer/ranger.
Ive tried the Hexbreaker/Empathy/Backfire routine (with no other skills in bar)hundreds of times and still dead in 8 secs.

Ive tried filling the rest of the bar with nature rituals to give me a bit of a head start with my staff, and that seems to work fine untill he starts t shoot arrows at me then Im dead in three hits. Please dont say dodge the arrows, cos I try, but then I cant fire back at him and he regens health.... back to being dead!

PLEASE, please, please......... what am I doing wrong? (Weep, cry, stamping of feet.)

I'm desperate.

Obsiedion

Obsiedion

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

ENGLAND

IHOP

Mo/

W/Ne - 5 times, 4 times under 7 seconds i got whooped from pillar to post. I tried equiping a hammer and using a sword, changing attribute point, leaving them all unspent, and even taking all my skills out.

Last attempt at 1am and i think "sod it if i die i am going to bed". So i think ok i am a warrior, a sword one, Equip all sword skills (seeking blade, galrath, savage slash, sever artery) and endure pain and shield bash. As soon as it started shield bash on and go sever artery, and then galrath, notice health is lagging endure pain, and then seeking blade. I know to read that seems like a well thought out, cool cunning plan....lol It all happened in less then 8 seconds!!

Remember what your primary is, think slowly. You choose this proffession not to farm, not to impress you choose it because you thought you would whoop a** all over tyria. Remember what your strengths are. IMO dont bother healing. kill him before he kills you. I know that sounds really stupid to say but its not actually that dumb. most of my guild either wiped them out, or got wiped out in under 30 seconds (and thats about 40 people). good luck dude!!

Alodarn

Alodarn

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

E/Me

As El/Me I toasted him, I took all 4 attunement enchantments, Arcane Echo and shatter enchantment. Maxed dom. Easy

Bonus points for not taking damage for the time he spent casting the attunements

Synergie

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Okay so this is how I did it.

(Mesmer/Ranger)

I filled 6 spaces in the bar with nature rituals to keep him busy and put Power Spike and Chaos Storm in the least 2. Chaos storm is the one that really did the damage with power spike adding a bit extra dmg while waiting for recharge.

I put max attribute points in Beast mastery, max in domination ( for the spells) and what I had left in Illusion for the staff I was using.

Took a couple of goes and found that I should stand as well away as I could else he came at me with the axe.... then I was done for.

Try it. It works.

Apathetic

Apathetic

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

Honolulu

Ying And Yang [YAY]

W/Mo

Ugh , Im having a really hard time.

Currently im a Mo/W @ level 7 trying to beat my DoP. Ive seen some of the methods posted, and will use some when I get home but my main problem is the damage he is dealing.

I get hit for maybe 30-50dmg per arrow (yes im using Draknors armor) and since im only lvl 7 I have no life. I just need to know what secondary profession should I go to ensure a win? Mesmer and pack what skills? I dont want to change if I only find that it doesnt work and waste Skill Points on the skills I need.

So feel free to comment I can really use it. Just need a definite way to beat him at this level or level 8. (I will use the divine boon method as heals, but I have so few attribute points I can fit about 6-7. Is this enough?) Thanks for any help.

Phrozenflame

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Fire ELE/MO

Ascended: Today.
Attempt: First time ever, my first char. Defeated him = in first time =] I'm really happy about it.

Hers what you do:
1- Aura of REstoration
2- Flare
3- Flame shower
4- Meteor Shwoer
5- Useless skil, whcih ahs long casting time and lods of mana.
6- same as above..
7- same as above..
8- duhh...


Go inside..Aura of restore, flame shower, then meteor shower, than just flare flare and flare...he'll die b4 u know it.

BunnyMaster

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2005

Holland

Army of Fairies

R/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Apathetic
I just need to know what secondary profession should I go to ensure a win? Mesmer and pack what skills?
Mesmer: Empathy+Chaos Storm, that's it
Ranger: Apply Poison + All rituals you can find

Have fun!

unienaule

unienaule

I dunt even get "Retired"

Join Date: Aug 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

Alright, Ele way, go earth and use ob flame and earthquake and eruption. pow. over. bonus easily. bring some other crap like foe and melee wards. Earth Attunement wastes his time pretty well too. just dont bring Ob Flesh or it will be VERY boring.

Yichi

Yichi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Guild Hall, Vent, Guesting, PvE, or the occasional HA match...

Dark Alley [dR]

Lvl 20 W/mo

prebuffed with balthasars spirit and zealots fire. activate last step to fight him. then berserkers stance, cylone axe, balanced stance (only cause my axe gives +14% dmg in stance), executioners strike, distruping chop, cyclone axe = gg in 11 seconds (guilds current record)

The_difference

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Gilroy, CA

The Chosen Champions (CC)

Me/W

Ill killed mine in like 5 seconds using my monk and all smiting skills

Alone)

Alone)

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

Campbell, California

Legio Imortalii

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by The_difference
Ill killed mine in like 5 seconds using my monk and all smiting skills
Sorry, but really think that's an exagerration. Maybe. Just...maybe... mmm ice cream at 2:26 am.

Archaeus

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

The DeathWatch Guild

E/Mo

For an E/Mo or Mo/E...
If you have Ether Renewal, Aura of Restoration, Armor of Earth, and Divine Boon, you can become the ultimate mage-tank. At the time that I was defeating my mirrior self with my ele, I was experimenting with this mage-tank build:

Earth Magic: 10
Energy Storage: 10 (or divine favor if you're a monk primary - it really doesn't make much of a difference)
Fire/Lightning Magic (depending on personal preferance): 11

Basic skills:
1-4: (4 offensive spells from either fire or lightning magic - either one works)
5: Armor of Earth
6: Aura of Restoration
7: Ether Renewal {E}
8: Divine Boon

It was a bit of a long fight, but I never came close to dying. Basically, keep Aura of Restoration up at all times, along with Armor of Earth. When you get close to running out of health or energy, throw up ether renewal and spam divine boon. It was an original idea at the time, but I hear that many people (monks) are beginning to use this build for PvP nowadays. Anyway... Nuke your mirrior self, heal yourself, recover energy like mad, have fun.

Oh, one variation that's worth trying would be to lose the fire or lightning magic and go smiter - use zealot's fire + aura + armor of earth + ether renewal and spam divine boon till the cows come home. this should also keep you alive when your mirrior self whips out that hammer or axe from nowhere. You could also throw in a Balth's aura, but that would mean that your mirrior self could use it too... E_E

I beat my mirror self on the first try with this build.

Phasma

Banned

Join Date: Sep 2005

Guardians Of Paridise

W/Mo

also as a monk prim andim sure monk secondary take only healing breeze with you as the dopleganger does not use it and he had no way to heal so just melee him to death i did it frist try at level 16


--Rabidus Phasma--

Voltaire Arcanum

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2005

Sardelac Sanitarium

Xen of Onslaught [XoO]

Me/Mo

Once you see how the dopp. works, you can take it down in less than a min with any class easily. You don't need someone to tell you how to do it for each class, you do the same cookie cutter thing every time.

1. The dopp. uses whatever skills YOU choose, and it uses most ALL of them that is is ABLE to (other than healing breeze apparently, but I didn't take that with my monk, why bother, takes too long).

2. Given 1, the key is to adopt a yin-yang type of strategy. You choose a crappy n00b skill bar, but you use it skillfully while the dopp. will run thru the whole bar wasting time or killing itself.

I always either:

a) take just one highly spammable damage dealing skill then fill the skill bar with stuff that won't help it and won't hurt you so it wastes time while I spam away (or even hurt it, e.g. necro sacrifice skills). My ele took flare (yes, flare!), then some skills that wouldn't help at all (e.g. dmg to adjacent targets, since you aren't getting anywhere near it, ward against melee, junk like that), then I just spammed flare while the dopp ran down the skill bar looking like an idiot. It was half dead before it had even hit me once. No need to dodge AoE, you just stand in one spot, spam flare and watch it go down quickly (don't bring aura of rest, or anything that might help it heal), or

b) take some skills it can't use and spam those. With my mo/w I took sword skills since I know it uses an axe up close (bow for distance so don't take bow skills). I just ran up to it right away (while it ran thru some worthless time-wasting skills on the skill bar) and spammed the few sword skills while I hacked away. It can't use the sword skills because it pulls out an axe and says to itself "omfg what is THIS doing in my weapon slot?!?" Once again it went down very quickly with no need for wimping out with healing breeze garbage.

Every class has SOMETHING that fits into a) or b) - I could have taken some smiting to spam for my monk instead of sword for example. The point is that you spam the ONE (or two) useful skill(s) while the dopp wastes time trying everything on the bar then switches to its weapon.

I hope this helps.

Barazur

Barazur

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Arcana Animi [ARAN] (Currently recruiting)

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hailfall
Ok I am a N/Mo and I have serious trouble killing my doppleganger. I tried up to 10 times now and have blood sacrifice spells in my spellslot (Blood Ritual, Blood of the Master, Signet of Agony and Plague sending) but my doppleganger wont use them and just disable me with his damned bow..

Someone an idea for me how to take him out? Might it also be because I do not have any attribute points in Blood Magic that he doesnt cast anything.. ?
Its a long time but i just got this thread linked and so...

Did N/mo yesterday (i was lvl 17 while the dp is 20). Some trick:
1. max your health with items and do not put any major or sup runes.
2. remove points form blood magic, curses and all monk attributes
3. bring 4-5 USELESS sacrifice spells and in particular:
- awaken the blood (make all sacrifice double health)
- order of pain (guaranteed that he will use it for 1 extra damage lol)
4. bring 3 maintenance enchantments which are pretty much useless. the dp will use them and will loose energy regen. I dont think this was needed but was fun to see. I brought life attunement, holy veil and another one that i dont remember.
5. do not use any skill and kill him quick (took 15s for me).

Yichi

Yichi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Guild Hall, Vent, Guesting, PvE, or the occasional HA match...

Dark Alley [dR]

Another addition for anyone that has a Mo/Me. I defeated him with it in about 40 seconds only using empathy and diversion.

way to do it. before last pedastal to activate mesa, cast diversion and skip the scene. since diversion gives u a 75% chance to block, then cast empathy. cast diversion again and run back and forth dodging his arrows. keep casting diversion and empathy as needed. still had almost a full health bar left...


edit. this tactic can work with all mesmers or anyone with mes secondary. relatively easy fight. a guildmate did it using these tactics at lvl 12

WhiteHand

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2005

TN

White Hand Illuminati

W/Mo

BEATING MONK DOUBLE in less than 10 seconds.

I actually beat my double in 5-7 seconds and received 50,000 xp, roughly 1/3 of my total xp at the time. I was 19th level at the time. I don't know how many levels I went up, went from 125k xp to about 175k.

Here is the strategy I used:

MAX SMITE and put everything else at 1 attribute point.

Balthazar's Aura,
Symbol of Wraith
6 other skills that are high mana and LONG casting times. LONG casting times being critical over mana used.
NO HEALING SKILLS!!

Once the duel starts, rush him and cast Balthazars and Symbol and then attack with your rod/staff. My double cast Balthazars but then tried to cast a Ranger spirit spell or something, but died before or about the time he got it casted. I had 6 spirit spells due to the long cast times. Honestly I wasn't paying attention to him it went by so fast and I was watching my health bar.

I was successful my first time doing this method, no guarntees but it worked for me!

The Torinator