people are always telling me how hard it is to kill dopple with a monk!
i thought i would just make up my own build for to see how "hard" it realy was.
with mo/me he was dead in 9 seconds.
the trick: use retibution before u go in, take 1 long lasting hex, and shatter hex. beaf up domination and smiting and just use as many smiting atacks as possible. he will do lots of dmg to u but cos of retibution he wil die 1st.
so gone on, have a litle smite fest with the dopple!
How to kill Doppelganger - Guide to all classes
Ymir Sade
Sergio Leone
Well yeah with mo/me just use the Mesmer Shutdown build but for anything else take Healing Breeze ONLY and a good wand and wand him to death. Last I checked he DOES NOT use Healing Breeze.
DreamCatcher
Any ideas how to beat the mirror with a lvl 12 N/Me? I've tried several different builds but they aren't working for me. It usually just bows/axes me to death without even using a single skill or just uses 1 skill...also he runs faster then I do (seems like he uses sprint or something...)
Star Gazer
uhmmmmm i beat my dopple at lvl 6 n/me 
you need to bring ALL sacrificing skills, including awaken the blood...he will kill himself in about 15 secs or so
you need to bring ALL sacrificing skills, including awaken the blood...he will kill himself in about 15 secs or so
Uncle Penny
W/Mo's have it pretty damn easy, my first ascension was messed up. As I hit the 3 stones and the cinematic ended i got some major choppy lag. I tried to kill him but the lag was so bad i died, but something messed up happened, because of the lag it thought i actually killed him, i even got the bonus too lmao, so i was lvl like 15 now 20, except one thing, since i died yet i won too, it sent me back to town without the final cinematic, and i didnt have dragons lair...so i just got 51k exp hah...So i just killed him again in like 5 seconds without lag and got dragons lair.
Sab
Just done it as a Me/Mo with 4 skills:
Empathy
Backfire
Orison of Healing
Scourge Healing
Points spread around in Fast Casting, Domination Magic and Smiting Prayers, no points in Healing Prayers.
Casted Backfire, Empathy and Scourge Healing as I entered. The Doppelganger killed himself rather quickly I must say. No need to strafe arrows.
Empathy
Backfire
Orison of Healing
Scourge Healing
Points spread around in Fast Casting, Domination Magic and Smiting Prayers, no points in Healing Prayers.
Casted Backfire, Empathy and Scourge Healing as I entered. The Doppelganger killed himself rather quickly I must say. No need to strafe arrows.
LouAl
Here's what I did last night:
Mo/N lvl 20
Heal 5 (3+2)
Smite 13 (12+1)
Divine 11 (10+1) I think
Life attunement, Holy Veil, Banish, Smite, Bane Sig, Holy Strike, Symbol of Wrath, Healing Touch
Note: The Doppleganger did NOT use the skills in the order of my skill bar. Several people have claimed that it will, but that is not always the case. Also, it used banish more than once but never used Holy Veil, although it did use Life Attune.
Since many of these skills are conditional (ie if foe is attacking) I did not attack so that I would not take full damage, the doppleganger is not that smart...
The fight lasted about 25-30 seconds. It was my first try with a monk. My take on the Doppleganger is to use conditional skills and then DON't meet the requirements of the skill's condition. For example if the skills says 'if attacking, target takes...' then you should not be attacking when the dopple gets you with it.
I used Healing touch once and the dopple used it a few times. It SEEMED like I got more benefit from the heal. Does any one know if the Doppleganger has any attribute points in your 'primary only' attribute?
Mo/N lvl 20
Heal 5 (3+2)
Smite 13 (12+1)
Divine 11 (10+1) I think
Life attunement, Holy Veil, Banish, Smite, Bane Sig, Holy Strike, Symbol of Wrath, Healing Touch
Note: The Doppleganger did NOT use the skills in the order of my skill bar. Several people have claimed that it will, but that is not always the case. Also, it used banish more than once but never used Holy Veil, although it did use Life Attune.
Since many of these skills are conditional (ie if foe is attacking) I did not attack so that I would not take full damage, the doppleganger is not that smart...
The fight lasted about 25-30 seconds. It was my first try with a monk. My take on the Doppleganger is to use conditional skills and then DON't meet the requirements of the skill's condition. For example if the skills says 'if attacking, target takes...' then you should not be attacking when the dopple gets you with it.
I used Healing touch once and the dopple used it a few times. It SEEMED like I got more benefit from the heal. Does any one know if the Doppleganger has any attribute points in your 'primary only' attribute?
ShazBo
the easiest way is to take the least amount of skill into the battle. Use an interrupt skill, healing skill and a low decoy skill for your mirror Doppleganger to interrupt.
burtonk
Wow I did not see anyone posting the easy way to kill off you dopple. It not what you dring to the fight, its how you bring it that counts. Watch your clone closely and you will see they key, once you see it, you will smack your forehead for its so simple.
Code Monkey
Code Monkey
Halev
mo/me or me/mo i haven't seena diversion orison build.
You cast a couple of smiting skills then diversion.
He has lost orison for 45 secs maybe? you don't use orison when he uses diversion (only lasts 6 secs) then just go back to attacking him and healing yourself with orison.
Yet untried but it should work but probably no bonus.
You cast a couple of smiting skills then diversion.
He has lost orison for 45 secs maybe? you don't use orison when he uses diversion (only lasts 6 secs) then just go back to attacking him and healing yourself with orison.
Yet untried but it should work but probably no bonus.
LordMahal
I took doppel as Ranger/monk on 14. Used:
Distracting shot (used when he casts Troll)
Bane signet (in case he uses DS)
Troll
Poison Arrow (I counter with Troll)
Whirling Defense (doppel does this second)
Winter, and 2 other beast skills.
Opens up he casts winter, I poison. Rush him, he changes to axe, negating DS. He uses Whirling, and pounds me for 15 seconds, I use bane sig, then Whirling ends... I poison, he tries Troll I use DS, whirling, and its over. He's dead in under 60 seconds, and whirling hasnt recharged. Troll is out for 20 seconds, and DS can counter it over and over. Its not the best approach Im sure, but it works.
Distracting shot (used when he casts Troll)
Bane signet (in case he uses DS)
Troll
Poison Arrow (I counter with Troll)
Whirling Defense (doppel does this second)
Winter, and 2 other beast skills.
Opens up he casts winter, I poison. Rush him, he changes to axe, negating DS. He uses Whirling, and pounds me for 15 seconds, I use bane sig, then Whirling ends... I poison, he tries Troll I use DS, whirling, and its over. He's dead in under 60 seconds, and whirling hasnt recharged. Troll is out for 20 seconds, and DS can counter it over and over. Its not the best approach Im sure, but it works.
PAoD->Hi11Zone<-PAoD
Hey yes i know kinda noobish qestion but wut is this all bout ur Doppleganger and how do u do it...im lil confused thanks!
Flaming schoold bus
Ranger and war, I think, are the easyest beat dople.
For ranger you just get a bunch of bow skills, a disruping skill and troll, move close interupt his troll and fire away.
Warior you just load up on sword skills and hack like theres no tomorrow.
~Shcoolbus~
For ranger you just get a bunch of bow skills, a disruping skill and troll, move close interupt his troll and fire away.
Warior you just load up on sword skills and hack like theres no tomorrow.
~Shcoolbus~
Mister Muhkuh
i killed my doppleganger with my monk in about 15 to 20 secs.
i put max on smiting prayers, the rest on divine favor.
take following skill with u:
bane signet, banish, balthasars aura, symbol of wrath, frenzy, retribution, (the rest useless skills like resurrect or something)
use it like that:
use retribution before u enter arena
ur enemy will use frenzy(u shouldnt use it)
->he takes double dmg, u use balthasars aura and symbol of wrath. till he runs away he is nearly done, u take bane signet and banish and he is dead
i put max on smiting prayers, the rest on divine favor.
take following skill with u:
bane signet, banish, balthasars aura, symbol of wrath, frenzy, retribution, (the rest useless skills like resurrect or something)
use it like that:
use retribution before u enter arena
ur enemy will use frenzy(u shouldnt use it)
->he takes double dmg, u use balthasars aura and symbol of wrath. till he runs away he is nearly done, u take bane signet and banish and he is dead
Lambentviper
OK well ima W/Me, and this is the build i used.
Frenzy- obviously dont use it, let him do the work for you
Spirit Shackles- Cast it on him and let him bring down his energy.
Any kinda damage spells that require energy. Your dopple wont use them seeing as he wont have any energy due to Spirit Shackles.
I personally like Glad's Defence, Swift Chop, Cyclone Axe, Power attack, etc.
Frenzy- obviously dont use it, let him do the work for you
Spirit Shackles- Cast it on him and let him bring down his energy.
Any kinda damage spells that require energy. Your dopple wont use them seeing as he wont have any energy due to Spirit Shackles.
I personally like Glad's Defence, Swift Chop, Cyclone Axe, Power attack, etc.
Carinae
All necro primaries and secondaries can beat the Doppel in about 10 seconds. Take ONLY these skills:
Awaken the Blood
Verata's Aura
When the battle starts, type /sit. Just watch...
Awaken the Blood
Verata's Aura
When the battle starts, type /sit. Just watch...
onilink
That worked for me. I had to switch out verata's for blinding flash and defile corpse, since its a pain to get to copperhammer before ascendance.
Arkantos
I just beat it with my Mo/N in seconds, I was lvl 14.
10 smiting
1.Balthazars aura
2.Symbol of Wrath
3.Bane Signet
4.Smite
5.Banish
6.Chilblains
Use balths aura amd SoB first, then spam with bane sig smite and banish. DONT USE CHILBLAINS he uses it and poisons himself
10 smiting
1.Balthazars aura
2.Symbol of Wrath
3.Bane Signet
4.Smite
5.Banish
6.Chilblains
Use balths aura amd SoB first, then spam with bane sig smite and banish. DONT USE CHILBLAINS he uses it and poisons himself
Dahl
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Originally Posted by arnansnow
The Mirror uses an axe, so if you bring axe skills he can use them. You were luckly I guess.
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Maxiemonster
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Originally Posted by Carinae Dragonblood
All necro primaries and secondaries can beat the Doppel in about 10 seconds. Take ONLY these skills:
Awaken the Blood Verata's Aura When the battle starts, type /sit. Just watch... |
Maxiemonster
I'm trying to ascend as a lvl 3 Me/N, can anyone help? People say all sacrificing spells is so easy, but the Doppleganger doesn't seem to kill himself with sacrificing spell. Keep in mind my damage is very low, and so is my Health (dead in 3 hits).
EDIT: Sorry for the double post, and I mdae it ^^ Level 12 now, time to get my FoW Armor :O
EDIT: Sorry for the double post, and I mdae it ^^ Level 12 now, time to get my FoW Armor :O
Greenfanart86
I just put this in someone elses thread about beating their necro dopple, but, I for my necro/mesmer, had Arcane echo,chillblains,awaken the blood and order of the vampire, the rst of my skillbar was empty. Soon as the battle started, I ran up to him with my Kole's torment, started wailing on him with the stick while he was doing...Arcane echo>Awaken the blood>Order of the Vampire after he casted orders, I stepped away from him and ran around, after I saw his orders run out, I went back to wailing on him with my Staff. Just rinse and repeat. The Awaken the blood+Order of the vampire should knock him out in about 3-4 uses if I remember correctly..adding in your own damage as well of course. Still got the bonus as well, had a tiny bit les than full health, and was level 16.
Covenant
The nec doppelganger is a pushover.
Equip all sacrefice health skills and watch as the Doppelganger literally kills themselves.
Not much to it.
I like your strategy, though.
Equip all sacrefice health skills and watch as the Doppelganger literally kills themselves.
Not much to it.
I like your strategy, though.
wsmcasey
I beat Doppelganger last night with my lvl 11 n/mo.
pick any attack skills. Preferably a skill that does damage but doesnt steal life. Then add healing breeze.
When the fight start cast healing breeze on yourself asap. Doppelganger doesn't use healing breeze at all.
Stay at a distance so he uses his bow all the time. press qeqeqeqeqeqeqeqeqeqeqe really fast to dodge his arrows (works very well).
cast your damage skills and reapply healing breeze when needed.
works perfectly. This could be applied to any monk primary or secondary prof.
Hope this helps someone
pick any attack skills. Preferably a skill that does damage but doesnt steal life. Then add healing breeze.
When the fight start cast healing breeze on yourself asap. Doppelganger doesn't use healing breeze at all.
Stay at a distance so he uses his bow all the time. press qeqeqeqeqeqeqeqeqeqeqe really fast to dodge his arrows (works very well).
cast your damage skills and reapply healing breeze when needed.
works perfectly. This could be applied to any monk primary or secondary prof.
Hope this helps someone
Mournblade
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Originally Posted by Cold
Just killed her with my ele.
+16 in earth and the rest in energy storage. Skills: Obsidian Flame, Crystal Wave and Meteor Shower + any useless non-healing long-casting spells. As soon as you get in she casts Meteor Shower. Get closer and hit her with Crystal Wave (106dmg ignoring armor), then run away and keep casting Obsidian Flame (118dmg per hit ignoring armor). That's about it. |
Rok
nevermind
Z'HA'DUM
i beat my monk doppelganger in 20 seconds in one go!!! i only used SoJ and balthasars aura... i couldnt believe it!!
check it out
check it out
Age
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Originally Posted by Covenant
The nec doppelganger is a pushover.
Equip all sacrefice health skills and watch as the Doppelganger literally kills themselves. Not much to it. I like your strategy, though. |
TAZTG
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Originally Posted by Gomezie
1.Meteor Shower
2.Imolate 3.Inferno 4.Imolate Think he lasted 9secs at the most! |
Tictac
What about 55ing your doppleganger? Does he have your same armor too? If so then he wouldn't know how you use a 55 build.
Isildur The Paladin
how to beat a doppel under lvl 10...ele/mo
LadyTheif
For the ranger spites and use apply posin on the last stone works.
The monk one is the easiest.
Nero I with the sace hp I also used an ele armor of earth let him cast it to slow himself down and the last hits I used a touch spell to finsit it
The monk one is the easiest.
Nero I with the sace hp I also used an ele armor of earth let him cast it to slow himself down and the last hits I used a touch spell to finsit it
iceypain
Anyone know a build Mes/Mo lower than level 10.
Heerohua
Mo/Me VS DOPPLE
------------------ Minimal effort to get the skills (no need to buy, should already have these with hardly any effort whilst doin a few quests whilst rushing to this stage of the game)
I was lv15 with droks armor
Stats were - 3 Illusion, 7 Healing, 11 Smiting
Skills were - Healing Breeze, Symbol of Wrath, Zealots Fire, Retribution, and Imagined Burdon.
How i done this: As i entered i would cast Retribution, and once i activated the first 2 pads i would cast Zealots Fire, wait for half regen of energy, cast healing breeze, go on last pad and quickly skip cinematic.
Run up to dopple and quickly cast Symbol of Wrath next to him, then Imagined Burdon, and then quickly proceed back to the ramp like area so u can run around the entire large circle of the room, cast healing breeze before it runs out, this is important. with him taking damage from attacking you, you have no need to attack back, just keep your distance as much as you can whilst using Imagined Burdon as required along side with keeping up Healing Breeze up until you can recast Symbol of Wrath, get that down next to him as fast as you can, then run again.
Not long after the second Symbol of Wrath my dopple died, easily under the 50 seconds might need to try this a few times to get use to it... just a little thing i put together on my first few monk attempts, gl with this method if you choose to use it, though i know this build aint for everybody, just figured i'd contribute.
------------------ Minimal effort to get the skills (no need to buy, should already have these with hardly any effort whilst doin a few quests whilst rushing to this stage of the game)
I was lv15 with droks armor
Stats were - 3 Illusion, 7 Healing, 11 Smiting
Skills were - Healing Breeze, Symbol of Wrath, Zealots Fire, Retribution, and Imagined Burdon.
How i done this: As i entered i would cast Retribution, and once i activated the first 2 pads i would cast Zealots Fire, wait for half regen of energy, cast healing breeze, go on last pad and quickly skip cinematic.
Run up to dopple and quickly cast Symbol of Wrath next to him, then Imagined Burdon, and then quickly proceed back to the ramp like area so u can run around the entire large circle of the room, cast healing breeze before it runs out, this is important. with him taking damage from attacking you, you have no need to attack back, just keep your distance as much as you can whilst using Imagined Burdon as required along side with keeping up Healing Breeze up until you can recast Symbol of Wrath, get that down next to him as fast as you can, then run again.
Not long after the second Symbol of Wrath my dopple died, easily under the 50 seconds might need to try this a few times to get use to it... just a little thing i put together on my first few monk attempts, gl with this method if you choose to use it, though i know this build aint for everybody, just figured i'd contribute.
Ice Assailant
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Originally Posted by Carinae Dragonblood
All necro primaries and secondaries can beat the Doppel in about 10 seconds. Take ONLY these skills:
Awaken the Blood Verata's Aura When the battle starts, type /sit. Just watch... |
Awaken the Blood
Verata's Aura
kdhoney44
Awaken the blood => Fishermen's Haven
Verata's Aura => Copperhammer Mines
Verata's Aura => Copperhammer Mines
dudeofdahouse
the mesmer doesnt work.....
he does everything you telling me before i do it. and he knows not do anything while empthy is on him.
he does everything you telling me before i do it. and he knows not do anything while empthy is on him.
dudeofdahouse
umm... sorry about what i said , i change my mind it works!!! but help breaker isnt that of a need.
THANK YOU!!!!!
THANK YOU!!!!!
Teutonic Paladin
Can I 55 it without Shield?
Kaldor Meshekal
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Originally Posted by Carinae Dragonblood
All necro primaries and secondaries can beat the Doppel in about 10 seconds. Take ONLY these skills:
Awaken the Blood Verata's Aura When the battle starts, type /sit. Just watch... |
Another good way, if you've been cheeky and been run to Droknar's, is to take Spiteful Spirit and other spells that cause damage when it attacks/casts. Takes about the same length of time, but SS is required, and of course no Necromancer should have that skill at that time
I remember the first time I did this...I was a Healer monk
I say did, 'tried' is more suitable.