How to kill Doppelganger - Guide to all classes

lord of shadow

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

London

Currently looking

alternative monk method- managed on a lvl 6
retribution, ess bond, balth's spirit blessed sig, port spirit (if you have started armour- i did) healign breeze
do not attack, cycle spirit,breeze,sig, keep enchants on always
its tight but it works

eddycurrents

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

Dark Angel of Rising Chaos

W/N

For my ranger, I maxed beast mastery, dropped everything else, brought my pet with all the pet skills I had, and let my pet do all the work. I also had a vampiric bow so I could do extra damage. Was easy.

The key to the doppelganger is generally: bring a bunch of spells that don't do damage but cause him to waste time, while you beat on him with whatever else you have. Then he starts to do the same, but you have a head start. That's what I did for my warrior and ele, and I finished in around ten seconds.

This didn't work with my ranger though... the doppelganger didn't cast spirits or preparations, except for poison (that was a problem). There were probably other ones I could have tried, but when I discovered I could bring a pet, it was problem solved.

Faer

Faer

La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

Join Date: Feb 2006

I've been fooling around with the Doppleganger out of boredom for the past few days every time I felt the need for a Ranger-fix... I don't know if you can actually put this build together without Ascending first, but I assume something similar can be put together with a bit of point-spread.

Ferocious Strike {E}
Call of Haste
Quickening Zephyr
Favorable Winds
Edge of Extinction
Winnowing
Sybiosis
Charm Animal

Beast Master: 12 ranks
Expertise: 3 ranks
Marksmanship: 9 ranks

Pretty much any max damage bow will work I guess... I used my Poisonous Storm Bow of Marksmanship because it looks wicked and I like the 13^50 and increased Marksmanship rank chance...

Skip cutscene, Hit "C" to target, spacebar to start the assault, fire off Call of Haste, hit Ferocious Strike whenever you darn well feel like it... Doppleganger drops dead in 20 seconds or less. Can't even finish setting his spirit army...

Sometimes I wonder about his AI. Is he really that stupid, or does he just pretend to be to make us overconfident and hire runners to THK?

In any case, I plan to keep killing him until he drops that super-secret uber-rare Crystalline he supposedly has .... I still laugh my ass off at that one sometimes...

lennymon

lennymon

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Seattle

Odin's Hammer [OH] - Servant's of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

As of last night the spirit spamming worked fine (and on a Mo/R). So I'm really unsure of what you could have done wrong. I hear that pets ARE now going with you though, I'm glad they added that even though its totally unnecessary for a ranger, lol. Too bad I didn't know about that last night, I had told my roomate that they weren't working.... oh well he still made it first time, thanks to spirits, balths aura, reversal of fortune and breeze.


Quote:
Originally Posted by eddycurrents
For my ranger, I maxed beast mastery, dropped everything else, brought my pet with all the pet skills I had, and let my pet do all the work. I also had a vampiric bow so I could do extra damage. Was easy.

The key to the doppelganger is generally: bring a bunch of spells that don't do damage but cause him to waste time, while you beat on him with whatever else you have. Then he starts to do the same, but you have a head start. That's what I did for my warrior and ele, and I finished in around ten seconds.

This didn't work with my ranger though... the doppelganger didn't cast spirits or preparations, except for poison (that was a problem). There were probably other ones I could have tried, but when I discovered I could bring a pet, it was problem solved.

Aries asede

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

Army Of Masks(AoM)

W/Mo

warrior:use sword skills no axe it does very littledmg while you hack it to death

Homicidal Brainiac

Homicidal Brainiac

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

New Zealand [NZL]

Hundred Companions [HC]

MONKS:

It seems that ur double WON'T EVER use Healing Breeze, so here's my Ascending monk build:

Healing Breeze
Zealot's Fire
Retribution

easy as that

cast Zealot's and spam Breeze. (obviously cast Retribution b4 you go in, Zealot's too)

as Dopple won't use breeze at all, you'll kill it and hopefully get the bonus too ^^

Blade Rez

Blade Rez

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Fairfax, VA

Shadows Of Nightmares (KoN)

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Quote:
Originally Posted by lord of shadow
alternative monk method- managed on a lvl 6
retribution, ess bond, balth's spirit blessed sig, port spirit (if you have started armour- i did) healign breeze
do not attack, cycle spirit,breeze,sig, keep enchants on always
its tight but it works
Thank you very much

Maedhros

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2006

Qu??bec, Canada

The Dark Aeon Knights

E/Mo

For an Elementalist, i sugger just bringing Obsidian Flame, Stoning and Stone Daggers. Bring also some defense... No doppleganger will ever use Obsidian Flame because of the exhaustion... So you can get all your defense skills on and then spam Stone Daggers, some Stoning and pitch Obsidian when possible. If you did exactly what i say here, you should have him killed withing 30 seconds.

~Maedhros

furiousfunk

furiousfunk

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2006

DK Dragonic Killers

Mo/W

Elementalist level 15, fire 13 energy 11
Bring Meteor and Flare only


35 seconds -
the doppleganger casted Meteor on me, while he casts blast him with flare, when he's done move away and cast meteor then blast him with flare, game over, instant level 20 ascended

whobitz

whobitz

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2006

Mo/

Some people are making warrior ascension sound too hard. Really all you need to do is bring frenzy, as stated in the first post...it helped me to bring the most useless enchantments i could find (being secondary monk), as well as things like hamstring that won't do extra damage but waste energy (you won't need to move anyway by the time you're next to it)

With my W/Mo using a sword i beat it on my first try, then went back and did it again to see if i missed anything.

Oh yeah Healing Breeze is great because the dopple will only use it to counter degen. So as long as you don't bring Sever Artery or something, it's quite useful. If you even need to heal.

And it doesn't matter what kind of skills you bring. Whether they are for sword, axe, or hammer, the dopple can still use them, and pretty effectively with 12 points in every attribute.

Potato

Potato

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2006

Lifes Curse (LC)

...I like, beat him first time with my meleemancer o_O didn't even set skills.
just hammer the hell out of him/her and spam vampiric touch XD

Evilsod

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

Warrior ascension..... Now let me see my skills/stats

Hammer Mastery lvl15
Strength lvl14 (16 if i feel like using my 2nd sup)

Skills:
Frenzy
Berserkers Stance
Sprint

He uses Frenzy, i use Berserkers, he dies in 7 seconds, i laugh. Sprints only there for me to use before i go in and run upto him faster.

Warrior ascension doesn't get anymore technical than that. Hell you don't even need Berserkers Stance, Frenzy works just aswell, he doesn't even get close to killing you.

Pi_Numurian

Pi_Numurian

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Numurian Vanguard

Me/R

War is very easy, Mes bring backfire and some other ones

texas slayer

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2006

N/A In Search Of.

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For my warrior, it was just frenzy and the two riposte skills.... just dont use frenzy..

christybrowne44

christybrowne44

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

Augury Rock (XD)

Sons Of Feanor

W/R

The easiest way to beat the doppleganger is if you are at least a little ranger.
First of all, bring TONS of spirits (Energizing wind for one). Bring some power shots for your bow, poison, interupt, and you're ready to go. First, since the doppleganger does spirits first, make that class that EW is in, lower. Max out markmanship and have no more for any other skills and that's it. When you start fighting to DG, walk as close as you can to him and he'll be doing spirits then. Put some poison and fire. Keep killing him like that but when he trys to do poison, interupt him. He doesn't hit you as hard because when you get close to him, he uses a chaos ax. The ax hits almost as much as you but not qite since you have poison on. He'll eventually die and you'll be ascended. NEVER RUN though. If you run, you'll die.

G.S.

G.S.

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

[CroM]

R/

Ummm yea. Ranger ascension.


16 in Marks and a customized bow - that's all you need.


Of course, bring spirits and a bow attack. It's faster.

Elrond Afil

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Me

Originally Posted by lord of shadow
alternative monk method- managed on a lvl 6
retribution, ess bond, balth's spirit blessed sig, port spirit (if you have started armour- i did) healign breeze
do not attack, cycle spirit,breeze,sig, keep enchants on always
its tight but it works


takes awhile

but works!

Moa Bird Cultist

Moa Bird Cultist

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Hastings (UK) / Latham (USA)

Freedom Fanatical Scots [FFS]

E/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by G.S.
Ummm yea. Ranger ascension.


16 in Marks and a customized bow - that's all you need.


Of course, bring spirits and a bow attack. It's faster.
OMG HAX!!!1!!111!!!O!! lol

Credit where it's due - well done

My most recent attempt was to see if my E/W griffon farmer could take her double with her 590 farming set. Boy was that a long fight, took a good 3-4 minutes to take her down, even with interupts on healing signet, (since she would try and do the same and inter me while i was healing...) Eventually though, I got her with crystal wave. I also ascended my W/E on my second account, but that was easy, just took ViM, bonettis and every condition i could muster easy

JR

JR

Re:tired

Join Date: Nov 2005

W/

To make it a bit easier on Ele:

Put attributes in Earth and Fire. Take Iron Mist, Flare and Fireball. Let the Doppel cast Iron Mist on you, making you immune to all forms of damage other than lightning. Spam Flare and Fireball on it whilst not losing any health.

kinetik

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

as an assassin..only bring dagger attacks. it doesnt have a dagger so it can only pull out its bow (for some reason it doesnt switch to axe) and you can just slice him to pieces in roughly 10-15 seconds.

healthsoldier0570

healthsoldier0570

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

Crystal Desert.

Mo/W

When I went to beat it with my monk / warrior, I just got a sword, put up swordsmanship to the required amount, got some sword skills and killed him that way while healing myself. I couldn't beat it with smiting prayers alone, so I went with my warrior ways. It was hella easy that way. So, if you are a monk / warrior and are stuck trying to beat it with your monk skills, try using a sword. You will beat it no matter what usually. I like to help people out with the game, so if any noobs have any questions, just personal message me here or in the game. My in-game-name is Health Soldier (as you could have guessed). I am looking for a guild with 40+ members, so if you have one, give me a buzz.

BrotherGilburt

BrotherGilburt

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

USA

Mo/

I beat hm with my monk useing axe. For my necro however I Beat him with three skills. I basically 55ed it with SS, prot spirit, and mending.

You can solo 55hp is with monk. Just be sure not to bring healing breeze. Have healing at 8 at least.

Brother Gilburt

Kaguya

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Moon

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by kinetik
as an assassin..only bring dagger attacks. it doesnt have a dagger so it can only pull out its bow (for some reason it doesnt switch to axe) and you can just slice him to pieces in roughly 10-15 seconds.
Apparently this was fixed, as the doppy killed me on first try, I dropped all my healing skills for second try and unloaded dagger attacks on it. It got me in bad shape, but I killed it first

Age

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

For Elementalist I did it this way after several attempts.

I put all my attunements on my bar along with flare and when i got in there I just started to wand it and hit flare but didn't use ant attunements at all.

king o kill

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2006

N.C

W/Mo

Plese help me!

Im a n/w and i need a great skill bar to defeat doppleganger

IM only lvl 12 so i need some major help!

If u can i need to know a great skill bar and were u get those skills

Thank You,

King O Kill

king o kill

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2006

N.C

W/Mo

but wont if u use those skills agensed doppleganger he will use them agenst u to and u will get killed faster at a lower lvl?

king o kill

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2006

N.C

W/Mo

u might want to try eather fest it could word but make sure u dont have any interupts he could interpuet u!

its good because

long casting spell-kill him when hes has no helth left!

Make sure u have most attbute points on eather fesat!

see if it will work!

king o kill.

ikepdx

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

Englishkid wrote:

_-Mesmer-_

Attributes:
Illusion 12+
Domination 12+

Skills:
Empathy
Clumsiness
Distortion

Again throw the spells on the doppleganger stand close to him and let him hit you.
Recast clumsiness when it is recharged.
Keep disortion on yourself for extra defence.


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The problem with that is it uses Clumsiness which is not available to someone playing through the game. Clumsiness isn't available until Copperhead Mine or Ember Camp - way past ascendance.

I just tried with Healing Breeze and Empathy and that worked. I put HB in and the dopple never used it.

I want to know how the bow can do 108 damage for spikes and 60+ damage consistently?

huwbie

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2006

UK

Ascending Phoenix

W/Mo

I beat him in roughly 10secs with my ele, only bring Flare and Meteor Shower, stick 12 attr in Fire magic rest in Energy Storage,

As soon as you enter the room with the doppelganger cast meteor shower on him, the doppleganger will finish casting his just b4 you do but yours will cast, move out of the way of the AoE from his meteor shower then just spam flare at him he was down in roughly 10 secs for me

DeadmeatX

DeadmeatX

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by kinetik
as an assassin..only bring dagger attacks. it doesnt have a dagger so it can only pull out its bow (for some reason it doesnt switch to axe) and you can just slice him to pieces in roughly 10-15 seconds.
As for assasin.. bring normal attack skills... ive started with
Unsuspecting Strike->Wild Stirke->Horns of Ox->Falling Spider->Twisting Fangs dont take Shadow Refugee and you should be fine, also he switch to an Axe while you engage him in melee... dont bring AoD or any shadowstep skill. Timing is an essence here engage him while he have bow, it usually takes him like 0.5 - 0.75 second (didnt check it with clock thou) before he switch to axe... you can beat him in 8-10 seconds with little luck

Boomer the Gnome

Boomer the Gnome

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

I have two suggestions for Assassins and warriors

Warrior

just equip 4 skills

- Frenzy
- Sever Artery
- Gash
- Final Thrust

Get close to him.. since he has an axe. Rest is history

Assassin

I use this skill combo, because it just destroys everything it touches

Palm strike (elite off hand attack ) Horns of the Ox Falling spider Twisting fangs. Palm strike works without lead attack

Palm strike for me is instant 75 damage, Horns does usally 40X2, Falling spider 50ishmaybe 60ish and posions, Then twisting fangs bleeds and deep wounds. Instant kill.

If your Assassin happens to be a warrior like mine. Equip FRENZY so he takes double damage and dies in SECONDS. Palm strike doubles to 150 damage.. its crazy

KansasRanger

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jun 2006

One Twenty Nine

R/Mo

I need help my lvl 16 (almost 17) ranger cant beat dopple ganger ive tried all the tricks plz help me!

KansasRanger

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jun 2006

One Twenty Nine

R/Mo

i need help i keep dyeing im a lvl 16 r/mo the doppleganger is too hard to beat i need help plz answer

KansasRanger

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jun 2006

One Twenty Nine

R/Mo

apparently using rituals makes it easy where do i get rituals im a r/mo need to beat him!!! {doppleganger}

KansasRanger

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jun 2006

One Twenty Nine

R/Mo

HELP i need to know where to get lots of ranger rituals to beat doppleganger pm me in game or just answer on the board right now

KansasRanger

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jun 2006

One Twenty Nine

R/Mo

Ranger:
Take a few spirits on your bar. Infact, Take All your spirits. Like i said, he's a computer, so he's stupid.. err.. IT'S stupid.. He will try to cast the spirits while you blast him away with your arrows. Once, My friend just used disrupting shots to stop his spirit casting and he jsut tried to cast it again. but he doesn't always try to recast. So you might get lucky on that part or not. But the best bet is to jsut let him as them so you have freedom to do whaever you want. be it pound him with as many arows as possible, or set traps right on his feet.

i understand to use spirits but wut skills ppl sell rituals?? im so confused

Celab

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

[VENT]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Boomer the Gnome
I have two suggestions for Assassins and warriors

Warrior

just equip 4 skills

- Frenzy
- Sever Artery
- Gash
- Final Thrust

Get close to him.. since he has an axe. Rest is history

Assassin

I use this skill combo, because it just destroys everything it touches

Palm strike (elite off hand attack ) Horns of the Ox Falling spider Twisting fangs. Palm strike works without lead attack

Palm strike for me is instant 75 damage, Horns does usally 40X2, Falling spider 50ishmaybe 60ish and posions, Then twisting fangs bleeds and deep wounds. Instant kill.

If your Assassin happens to be a warrior like mine. Equip FRENZY so he takes double damage and dies in SECONDS. Palm strike doubles to 150 damage.. its crazy
I just had frenzy and heal sig in my skill bar, putting all points into str + axe. He used frenzy so he toke double damage, then heal sig whilst low which means -40 armor, more damage. Killed in 7 seconds.

Fluffyx

Fluffyx

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Courtney PantsuLand

Death By Teazu [TEA]

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by ikepdx
Englishkid wrote:

_-Mesmer-_

Attributes:
Illusion 12+
Domination 12+

Skills:
Empathy
Clumsiness
Distortion

Again throw the spells on the doppleganger stand close to him and let him hit you.
Recast clumsiness when it is recharged.
Keep disortion on yourself for extra defence.


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The problem with that is it uses Clumsiness which is not available to someone playing through the game. Clumsiness isn't available until Copperhead Mine or Ember Camp - way past ascendance.

I just tried with Healing Breeze and Empathy and that worked. I put HB in and the dopple never used it.

I want to know how the bow can do 108 damage for spikes and 60+ damage consistently?
The person could unlock Clumsiness with pvp faction and all skill trainers would have it. I will try this later today. :]

Mayh3m

Mayh3m

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Montreal

Mind H A C K [OMG]

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hehe nice guide but last time I did that I OWNED MY DOUBLE

Elyssa Darkblade

Elyssa Darkblade

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

Norway

Even Abaddon Likes Jam [TART]

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I'll have dont read all of this post.

But when i kill doppelganger with my warrior, i just use Healing Signet and a interrupt skill i dont remember the name on it. When doppelganger heal i crunsh his healing for that time. I kill it under 1 min.

Edit: The Interrupter skill has attribute on swordmanship, and deal extra dmg when its interrupt a skill.