How to kill Doppelganger - Guide to all classes

Cold

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

UK

Just killed her again with my W/Mo (what an unusual build )
- Savage Slash
- Seeking Blade
- Healing Signet
Strategy:
Hit, hit, hit, hit, savage slash (to interrupt healing), hit, hit, hit, hit

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

Necro Monk or Monk Necro :

Spirit of Failure + Guardian + Aegis + enfeeble

Pyro_Elementalist

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2005

Okay, i have read through many ways to kill the Doppleganger but i have yet been successful with me new chara. She is a lvl 7 Mo/W and has 240 health. I wanted to know if there was anyway i can beat it. I tried several skill combos but none have been successful.

Hells Vengeance

Hells Vengeance

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

Eight Deadly Sins

W/Mo

As a Necro take along "Awaken the Blood". That will be the first thing your dopple will use, making it so it loses double the percentage of health when using sacrifice skills.

Maxiemonster

Maxiemonster

There is no spoon.

Join Date: Jun 2005

Netherlands

Mo/

My lvl 4 Mesmer just can't pull it off. I have Empathy, and that should work, but how in the world do I dodge his arrows? I't's just impossible.. And since I die in one hit (he deals 161+ damage, I've got 160 Health), I can't afford to get hit.

mrbeluga

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Dec 2005

the dukes of darkness

R/E

wow great advice, im a r/e and i put meteor shower on him it left him with about 10 hp and 1 bow hit killed him.im in ur dept now for showing me the way to victory

toastgodsupreme

toastgodsupreme

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

United States

Me/

Thank you for this. I threw emp and backfire on him and let him cast his wards. nearly killed himself with just the wards with backfire on him, lol.

Mistermagoo

Mistermagoo

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

In my computer room.

The Noob Elite [TnE]

N/Me

Easy to dodge. Beat him with my level 8 necro. Just run left / right until you see him nock the arrow, right after you see the animation, just switch opposite directions..

exodite

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

KISS

Mo/Me

a good way i found for my monk not sure if this works any more though smite the hell out of him but have max smite max heal no divine use all smite skills and have meding + breeze as Henchies only ever use these when they are being degened same with dopple ganger hehe:P

Zatara

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2005

Aruba

Way of Perfection

W/

Any tips for a lvl 6 W/Mo?

awesome sauce

awesome sauce

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

what worked for me for monk was reversal of fortune. You can spam it while the doppleganger does not know how to spam it.

blakk

blakk

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

The Marble Clan [KING]

R/Mo

the wmonk is easy, bring skills that require energy upkeep, and then bring skills that take a long time to cast. add your two warrior damage skill a last, then run up and chop him up( bring frenzy but dont use it)

Manic Smile

Manic Smile

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

Hawaii

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Maxiemonster
My lvl 4 Mesmer just can't pull it off. I have Empathy, and that should work, but how in the world do I dodge his arrows? I't's just impossible.. And since I die in one hit (he deals 161+ damage, I've got 160 Health), I can't afford to get hit.
What is your sub? Hope it's nec . Either way go with backfire as your main damage source...put Dom as high as you can. Give him a bunch of crap spells to keep him busy...when I killed him with my mez...lvl 13...(yea I know way over 4)...he never used a wepon once...killed him in under 20 secs...gonna push it a little bit and say 10sec.

He won't BF himself to death so use shattered delusions as the finisher. What is your armor btw? The damage is independent of your lvl and it seems your taking way too much.

Manic Smile

Manic Smile

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

Hawaii

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mistermagoo
Easy to dodge. Beat him with my level 8 necro. Just run left / right until you see him nock the arrow, right after you see the animation, just switch opposite directions..
just give him all sac spells and don't use them yourself...nec was fun

LouAl

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

I can't believe that everyone thinks you need a trick build for the doppleganger! I can't possibly imagine that your "normal" build is so good that you can't counter it!

Try this:

What do kills you the fastest when fighting monsters/in PvP? Use that.

All you have to do is play effectively. The stupid thing is just AI, it just randomly (to an extent) uses skills. Use that to your advantage. Don't change your skills, just use them better than your mirror does.

Everyone says how stupid henchies are, this guy is just a henchie with your skill set. The only real advantage that the Doppleganger has is that it doesn't get frustrated/upset/angry/etc.

I didn't set any records killing it, but I killed it with 2 characters and both were less than 30 seconds. I didn't change my skills do it either. I even gave it 2 interupts with my warrior and 3 with my mesmer, but I let it interupt small stuff and then worked it over with the big stuff...

I played once in the CA with my mesmer and fought another mesmer. She kicked the crap out of me. I nterupted all her low cost/fast recharge spells and she interupted all my high cost/long recharge spells -- I was dead in about 10 seconds. In that case I was the Doppleganger. The other mesmer had almost the same skills as me she just used them better.

Puppets

Puppets

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

Internet Serious Business

W/

I can't beat my doppleganger at all, I've been at it for at least 20+ tries now.
I'm a Mes/Mo, I really need some tips.

Oh I can't do the empathy/dodging trick, I get far too much lag spikes/delay to pull that off. :/

Quote:
Another addition for anyone that has a Mo/Me. I defeated him with it in about 40 seconds only using empathy and diversion.

way to do it. before last pedastal to activate mesa, cast diversion and skip the scene. since diversion gives u a 75% chance to block, then cast empathy. cast diversion again and run back and forth dodging his arrows. keep casting diversion and empathy as needed. still had almost a full health bar left...
Yay that worked great, thanks

kvndoom

kvndoom

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Communistwealth of Virginia

Uninstalled

W/Mo

If you're anything Monk, primary or secondary, all you need is Scourge Healing and Orison of Healing. Period. 12 smiting, 0 everything else. Period. Max Smiting Rod from collector outside Elona. Period. Under 50 seconds every time. Period. If you don't have max desert armor and whine about getting your ass kicked, you don't deserve to ascend anyway. Period.

Warrior / Monk? Take Frenzy along too, and pump up your weapon attributes to use your melee weapon. 12 smiting, 0 everything else.



26 seconds. My best was 22 seconds. It's only as hard as you make it. Period.

Delta

Delta

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

Rt/R

Here's how to defeat the Doppelganger as a Mo/R -

You should have at least 10 attribute points in Smiting Prayers, Healing Prayers and Divine Favor.

Your skill set should include: Life Attunement;Retribution;Symbol of Wrath;Healing Breeze;4x "BeastMastery Spirit Rituals" (e.g. Predatory Season, Symbiosis, etc)

Do NOT cast Life Attunement on yourself! Do not cast any of the "BeastMastery spirit rituals".

The Doppelganger will start by spending 20 seconds of his/her time by creating each of the spirits. While he/she is doing that, cast Retribution on yourself, then run up to the Doppelganger and use Symbol of Wrath when you are adjacent to him/her and the spirits, and couple that with attacking the doppelganger with a high damage weapon (bow suited for me). Symbol of Wrath should also be damaging the spirits. Once the Doppelganger has finished casting the spirits, he'll/she'll cast Life Attunement on herself about 2-4 times, then she will use Symbol of Wrath. DON'T PANIC, stay where you are; use Healing Breeze (even better if you start using Healing Breeze when the Doppelganger is casting Symbol of Wrath). The Doppelganger should be at about 20% health, so then keep bow attacking the Doppelganger and he/she should die.

I killed the Doppelganger in about 40 seconds with this strategy, which is reasonable for a monk.

Savio

Savio

Teenager with attitude

Join Date: Jul 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

Quote:
Originally Posted by kvndoom
If you're anything Monk, primary or secondary, all you need is Scourge Healing and Orison of Healing. Period. 12 smiting, 0 everything else. Period. Max Smiting Rod from collector outside Elona. Period. Under 50 seconds every time. Period. If you don't have max desert armor and whine about getting your ass kicked, you don't deserve to ascend anyway. Period.

Warrior / Monk? Take Frenzy along too, and pump up your weapon attributes to use your melee weapon. 12 smiting, 0 everything else.

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...oom/dopple.jpg

26 seconds. My best was 22 seconds. It's only as hard as you make it. Period.
22? With just Frenzy I usually get 18 or less.

Incidentally, since you're automatically enchanted when you go to fight the Doppelganger, it's not a bad idea to bring Enchant-based weapons and shields.

Poke The Almighty

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Dec 2005

10 second kill for a mesmer dopple ganger (lvl 16)

Attribute:
Fast Casting: 10
Domination 11

Skills:
Wastrels Worry
Empathy
Backfire

Immediately cast backfire, followed with empathy, then spam wastrels worry, the guy will kill himself in a few seconds.

Draeco_Smash

Draeco_Smash

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

Ottawa, Canada

GLEN

W/Me

The easiest way to do this with the ele is to go Earth and equip armour of mist or whatever, the one that makes u immune to all dmg except lightnening, dont equip any lightning...
be sure to equip it in ur 1 skill bar slot...
they have a tendency to cast from left to right...
then put what ever u want because u can do dmg but he cant just dont cast it on him!!!

did it in one try
easy as pie

I Choose You

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Dec 2005

Calgary, AB

Time Is Running

N/Me

fastest. kill. ever.

awaken the blood, offerring of blood, dark pact, backfire... 8 seconds to kill

nasty hobbitses

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2006

Mo/

I fell in love with mes as second prof with my first character. Really how can u beat conjure phantasm. So my experience with dopple has always been with mes abilities, so if u can bring backfire and empathy and lots of usless stuff...
I use backfire, dop uses empathy. i use wand or staff and dont care what dop does cause every spell (maxed out my dom points) literally sucks the life outta it. Very fast, no stress and voila off u go.

Linsys

Linsys

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

Afk Mac N Cheeze Dun [LOOL]

Mo/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by LouAl
I can't believe that everyone thinks you need a trick build for the doppleganger! I can't possibly imagine that your "normal" build is so good that you can't counter it!

Ummm Yes... Sometimes I like to kill my double just for fun... seriously...

Anyway my Level 20 warrior can assinate him in a few seconds, but I like to try other bulds... I tried to kill my double with my Warrior Solo Build and basicly I was unable to kill him and he was unable to kill me... we stood there for about 10+ minutes just hacking away at one another and neither of us died, I just figured it would be a never ending battle.

d3kst3r

d3kst3r

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Brisbane, Australia

Here's the cheat way to do it for ranger.

Equip all bow attack skills. Move within melee range of Doppleganger. Equip an axe and hit him. Once your Doppleganger also equips an axe then switch to bow and kick his ass.

sabre lord

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2006

US Arizona

W/R

im a lvl 16 war alot of cashlike 500k a fierydragon sword and a sundering sword of spartha wat skills should i get and wepons tell me th best strategy plz help me i want to ascend

Z'HA'DUM

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

E/Me

lol i killed my ele doppelganger in less than 20 seconds!!

sabre lord

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2006

US Arizona

W/R

i beat him in 12 secs with my lvl 16 w/r with my sundering sword of spartha and shield of the wing i had a bunch of useless hammer spells and two sword with no healing! so i came in killed him but it happened so fast i was like WTF use fury mainly bcuz he uses it alot and it does dobble damage to HIM evry time u hit so i hit like 100 with seeking sword
great!!! so hope that helps

Urias Skult

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

Australia

Hmm, Im having trouble with this. Im a N/E so Im taking useless crap spells and he is tanking me to death with melee and bow hits. If I take any decent spells we both use them and I seem to die quickly. So far my best chance has been running around in circles but he chases me firing 30+ Hp damage arrows and occasionally stopping to use a -10% Hp spell. But his bow hits are too powerfull to stay alive long enough for him to sacrifice himself to death.

Im slightly annoyed that I am apparently not good enough to kill him as easily as everyone else here!

I really cant bring my regular build either, I specialise as a MM and 6/8 spells require a corpse.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Saul D allesio

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

Norsk Raiders

Mo/Me

Hey....im a mo/me and i am also trying 2 beat dopple...I tryed a few times...and it still didnt work i tried retribution + healing breeze + zeolots +Reversal and usless enchants it still didnt work i died in -5 seconds...som1 said 'how much health u got m8?' and i said '380 m8 y?' (im lvl 15) 'with 380 health u aint gona go nowhere unles u bring holy wrath from ascalon settlement' (so i went ona lenthy journey 2 there) i cam back and he kill me in not -5 secs...but 5 secs this time...some1 sair bring empathy/backfire and dodge arows...at first he cast back fire on me without me noticing then i finsihed cating backfire then i cast empathy....i was dead in 2 hits 263 damgage each spell...i tried again and i kept getting hit at som points and i had 2 recast empathy and healing breeze for health....you guse what....I still died I used symbol and alot of smites I dided in -10020902390293,0000,0000,0000 seconds....Btw I have normal monk armor from ascalon...u think i should get dessert collectors first and try another
10+ times or dose ne1' of u know a build that could help me.....I am sorta deperate here....

Kaguya

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Moon

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Saul D allesio
some1 sair bring empathy/backfire and dodge arows...at first he cast back fire on me without me noticing then i finsihed cating backfire then i cast empathy....i was dead in 2 hits 263 damgage each spell...i tried again and i kept getting hit at som points and i had 2 recast empathy and healing breeze for health....you guse what....I still died I used symbol and alot of smites I dided in -10020902390293,0000,0000,0000 seconds....Btw I have normal monk armor from ascalon...u think i should get dessert collectors first and try another
10+ times or dose ne1' of u know a build that could help me.....I am sorta deperate here....
You forgot Hexbreaker. Cast Hexbreaker just before you enter the mission, then backfire Doppy. Doppy will hit you with Backfire, but Hexbreaker will deflect it, then just recast hexbreaker. Add some junk hexes that don't affect you that the doppy will cast, and he'll kill himself on the backfire.

It works just like on the first post on the first page, Ascended my Mo/Me not long ago with those pointers.

And.. Ascalon armor won't prolly be the best choice either Collectors or just get some off crafter at Amnoon...

Narceleptic Cow

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2006

MD, USA

Paquete De Lobo

N/Mo

Killing Doppelganger was frustrating for me, it took about 3 hours of switching skills to come up with something that finially worked. Here is what I had:

Necromancer/Monk Lvl 20 (health 510/ energy 51)

Shadow Strike
Defile Flesh
Dark Aura
Dark Pact
Heal Party
Scourge Healing
Vital Blessing
Retribution

Weapons: Deadly Cesta, 6-9 Cold dmg, Energy +10, Energy Regin -1

Off hand: Grim Cesta, Energy +11, Armor +4 vs Phys Attack

Armor: Tormentors set from Drokners Forge (70 Armor)

Energy was at 51, but one of my cestas has -1 energy. With Vital blessing and Retribution also running, it left only one pip for energy regeneration.

Defile flesh, Dark Aura, Dark Pact, and Heal Party were for Doppelganger to use. I turned on Vital blessing and Retribution before entering the arena. Once in, I threw Scourge Healing and then Shadow Strike. Those were the only ones I kept using. Doppelganger used the other skills which sacrificed his blood or energy. He also used Heal Party, but then Scourge Healing kicked in and did him -63 damage each time he used the 15 energy skill, 2 for 1.

I didn't get the bonus, it probably took a few minutes and was down to the wire between us, but he ended up dying first (probably around my 30th try).

dimirpaw

dimirpaw

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Canada/Alberta/Edmonton

For my R/Mo it was easy at lv 12, just loaded up with 5 spirits and 3 traps. Right when I entered to vs him I went close to him, not too close because he would set of a trap on me. I place barbed and flame trap then I attacked him, he went close to me to melee since I wasnt far. Traps went off and he started running, add that with barb, he didnt run far enough to pull out his bow and came to melee me and died. 20 second match, very easy.

kvndoom

kvndoom

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Communistwealth of Virginia

Uninstalled

W/Mo

I just ascended my R/Mo yesterday. I got whupped the first few times, but then I realized I was level 18, so it had what, 80 more health than me, and I still had my 61AL Amnoon armor instead of the 70AL collector's armor. But I got it on the 5th try with my same staple of skills- Scourge Healing, Orison, and this time I threw in Tiger's fury to get him to start healing faster. 12 Smiting, rest in BM. When I did beat him, it was still under 50 seconds, so I got my 50k experience. What did I do different the 5th time? I moved in close at the beginning. Get in his face and he immediately switches to the axe, and the axe does WAY less damage than the bow.

Urias Skult

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

Australia

I beat my doppelganger today too. Its funny how you either get killed quickly or you kill him quickly! I killed him in around 25 seconds.

I used 5 health sacrificing skills (for him) and I used Iron Mist right away followed by Lightning.

Im so glad I have been able to switch secondaries, Elementalist and with a Necro was just a bad pairing.

Star Gazer

Star Gazer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Zerohour Enterprises [ZHE]

W/

indeed. I did the same thing, sacrifice skills, with a lvl 5 necro...made lvl 12 and was lfg in tombs (old tombs)

LouAl

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Just so everyone is clear the fact that he/she/it doesn't use healing breeze is not a glitch. If you notice, monsters and henchies don't use it either unless there is some kind of degen they are trying to counteract. It is what healing breeze is best at anyway...it really isn't that great at healing you unless your max heatlh is extremely low.

I still feel that many people are missing the point with the doppleganger. You DO NOT need a trick build to beat your mirror. All skills have a weakness of some kind, find that weakness and exploit it against him/her/it.

TimberOwl

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

Mo/Me

Hi guys, is it possible to kill the dopple with a lvl10 R/Me? Ive tried several times but it just kills me..

Ive tried to concentrate on mesmer skills like empathey to help him kill himself, as if i put powershot in he deals 200 on me and im dead.

I haven't been successful so far with even lowering his health below 50%, any tips... i have 351health without armor, got some runes on armor so they don't help with health, i just removed armor and lived a little longer..

Gorebrex

Gorebrex

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

They dont play fair in the mesa...
http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/5874/gw2477mt.jpg
Got her 2nd time though!
http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/1847/gw2503cd.jpg

kaze0099

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mo/

Just ascended with my lvl 11 necro, only got to lvl 17 though =/

I used:

Demonic flesh
enfeebling blood
signet of agony
chillbains
awaken the blood (supprisingly dopple always used it first)
retribution (monk)
dark pact
rend enchantments

I just ran around and let him cast dark pact on me untill his health dropped to almost nothing adn then cast dark pact back to him and he died.