How to kill Doppelganger - Guide to all classes

HOXMAN

HOXMAN

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

TN, USA

Amber Order [AMBR]

E/Me

If only we had the "RESTART PC" Skill and the "Mom's Calling You For Dinner" Skill. That'd do it!

(sorry.. couldn't resist! Great suggestions btw Keep it up!)

Maddie

Maddie

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

Netherlands

[천상캐슬]

Mo/

Pacifism - Healing Breeze

It suggs when you are a full monk with almost no skill of an other attribute.. but for those who are..
This was my combination 45 secs

stelliosm

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

I beat dopple with my war first time, all uot dmg attacks no heals.
then for my mon/war i just took my wars hammer in with me, took only attck skills and no heals and won.

imanixon2

imanixon2

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2005

Credendo Vides

i saw a post that claimed DG wont use meteor shower. well mine did, just move out of the way.

prime stinger

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

England

RoA

R/

e/mes was easy for me... echo + met shower = owned... i just kept disrupting him.. ownt (H)

Archaeus

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

The DeathWatch Guild

E/Mo

I tried just loading my bar with sacrifice skills and Awaken the Blood on my necro, and I was disappointed. The mirrior used Awaken the Blood, Blood Renewal, and Enfeebling Blood, then proceeded to hack at me vigorously with an axe till I died. He bit the dust himself from the degen he got from Chiblains, but I still lost.

My solution: Bring Insidious Parasite and Spiteful Spirit {E} and pump up those curses! Grab Defile Flesh for its 20% sacrifice. Then, of course, bring Awaken the Blood and Enfeebling Blood. DO NOT bring Blood Renewal (big sacrifice, but regen+healing too).

I found that he will NEVER use Signet of Agony, Verata's Sacrifice, or Blood of the Master, even if they are the only skills on your bar. He'll just smack you around with his axe and laugh at you. He occasionally uses Chiblains if you have it, but only if you get up close to him. He loves to use Awaken + Enfeebling Blood, which is nice.

At the beginning of the fight, you'll both lay on Insidious Parasite and Spiteful Spirit on each other. Grab Enfeebling Blood and Awaken. Both his hexes will wear off a lot quicker than yours will, if you get curses up enough (mine was at 16). He'll probably cast Awaken the blood and enfeebling blood right after that. You could throw on an Enfeebling on him if you'd like, though it'll cost you some health (maybe bring both Enfeeble and Enfeebling Blood, and use Enfeeble) Go in close to him and then start strafing left and right, so that he has to move to hit you but you don't get critted. Whenever he hits you, he'll take about 58 damage and you'll be healed for 21 (at 16 curses). Keep dancin' and he'll be dead before you know it.

Archaeus

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

The DeathWatch Guild

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by MistressYichi
Another addition for anyone that has a Mo/Me. I defeated him with it in about 40 seconds only using empathy and diversion.

way to do it. before last pedastal to activate mesa, cast diversion and skip the scene. since diversion gives u a 75% chance to block, then cast empathy. cast diversion again and run back and forth dodging his arrows. keep casting diversion and empathy as needed. still had almost a full health bar left...


edit. this tactic can work with all mesmers or anyone with mes secondary. relatively easy fight. a guildmate did it using these tactics at lvl 12
I believe you mean distortion, not diversion.

Apologies for the double post.

Ghost.

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2005

California Best State In the World

Undead Poet Society

R/Me

i think this thread doesn't give you to many options on what things you actually can use against doppleganger

Demon Rebel

Demon Rebel

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

Phoenix, Az

Kings of Chaos Knights (KoCK)

W/Me

Hey

I walked in with my R/N Demon Rebel... Had some useless spells like soul feast, ignite arrows, and just my basic Ranger setup to that point. He hit me a couple times with the axe and died in roughly 9 seconds - major breeze... now if all my chars could have it so easy.

The Mo/W had it a little tougher, with the right setup she trashed him in a little bit longer I think 30+ seconds, frenzy, smite, bane signet, holy touch and banish. Banish is my favorite spam hit, though it doesn't have the double hit when foe is attacking like Smite does.

Marti

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Oct 2005

Dynasti of Gaiden

R/Mo

Well, i managed somehow to kill him (R/Mo), with 3 nature rituals (doesnt matter which ones), Troll Unguent, Symbol of Wrath, Penetrating Attack, Savage Shot and Dust Trap. He started off with all the nature rituals, while i rushed in and pulled off SoW. Of course, he was not close enough, so it didnt work. While he still was using the rituals, i just started pummeling him with arrows. He used Troll unguent, and i disrupted it with savage shot. After 2 disrupts i just finished him off. The only damage i recieved, was from one bow shot.

Raiin Maker

Raiin Maker

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

England

Blood On The Worlds Hands

W/

its easy if you a necro.. just take all sacrifeing spells and awaken the blood... (and vampric gaze)

use awaken the blood and vampric gaze ONLY your DG will use most of the sacrifing spells and ATB and will kill himself... easy way for necro's to ascend.

Bleaked

Bleaked

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

Hounds of Creegus

Me/R

I managed to pull off a Me/R win without using Nature Rituals =P

Brought Spirit of Failure, Shatter Enchantment, Channeling, and had more or less a blank skillbar from there. I think I might have used Arcane Echo off the bat to get another Shatter, but I can't quite remember.

Pumped Domination, Marksmanship (for a good bow) and Inspiration, naturally.

Channeling was a dummy skill, he'll use it whenever he can - past that, I merely used Shatter and Spirit, and hoped I got lucky with Spirit of Failure's 25% miss chance as I traded shots. Shatter put me over the top the second time I tried it.

Prince Zyphr

Prince Zyphr

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

A Place You Aren't

Suppressed Messengers [spam]

for my ele i used meteor shower+fire storm+fireball+flare

cast meteor shower first then just keeping moving around and cast fire strom move some more(moving is for dodging the AOE's) and firebal+flare=dead

monk i used, sever artery,gash,pure strike, banish, balthazars aura, healing breeze, orison of healing; when i did it he was stupid and basically did nothing might be differnt for u

anybody who is mesmer or /mesmer just take alot of useless hexes or spells + backfire, channeling, and shatter enchatment
add all points to domintaion cast backfire on him first, he should use channeling and after backfire is off use shatter enchat to kill

Loch

Loch

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

I just killed the doppleganger with my Ele today, using only Meteor Shower and Firestorm.

But wait, the doppleganger runs away from AoE's now!

...but not when they're busy casting their 4-5 second AoE's. When your AoE's are recharging, wand-spam for the win.

Arcien Trueflight

Arcien Trueflight

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2005

Retrieving an arrow from my latest kill.

Nova Alliance [Nova]

R/E

I did it in about 45 seconds with my R/Mo. Didn't use a single Ritual, and only needed 3 skills. Mending, Protective Spirit, and Distracting shot. I put on mending before the fight started, and as soon as it did, I fired distracting shot, which stopped him from using it, and then cast protective spirit. After that, it was just a simple waiting game of attacking him, keeping spirit up, and using distracting shot when he tried to use mending. Worked for me.

Loadtoad

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

N/E

yes alot of the ideas above no longer work.... they have changed how your mirror thinks now... My mirror did not use one of my skills just beat me with that damb axe, the only time it would use a skill is if i put in a good one!

Storm Crow

Storm Crow

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

With Vanatiel by the Lion's Arch Lighthouse, waiting for the storm with which we are accoustomed

Children of the Order [CoO] -True Heroes Fight to Keep the Balance-

you people REALLY exaggerate the ele Dopp.

-take Fire Storm and Meteor Shower (in that order, he'll do storm first)
-if you arent pyro, switch out, you can always go back to your previous element.
-when you go in, hit SHOWER first, it'll keep him busy while he tries to use storm.
-once he gets storm out, just move, and cast it youself
-strafe left and right to avoid arrows and watch the fireworks fly as the 50,000xp floats from your head

this took me a total of about 9 seconds, you dont need any worthless skills or Aura, just a couple good AoE's and your wand/staff and you're good to go


kk thx bye

Loadtoad

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

N/E

firestorm does not work..... he will move
strafe left and right to avoid arrows ---that doesnt work---

Zephyr Jackson

Zephyr Jackson

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Kansas

E/Mo

My Monk lvl 17
9smite
split dF and HP
banesig banish smite retribution diboon and healing breeze

Age

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

I will add to this I used with my Monk healing breeze.retrubutionand holy wrath on my warrior I used riposte,final thrust.frenzy and healing signet.I beat in 1 attempt in under 5 min more like 2.This has got to be the esaiest part of ascending.

LightningHell

LightningHell

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Join Date: Aug 2005

Hong Kong

Guildless

Mo/

For me, all I have to do is Flare + Backfire. Of course, Aura of Restoration is nice, but not needed.

leeky baby

leeky baby

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Surrey University

Starting to play again... need a guild

W/E

if ur a monk or a monk secondary then just take healing breze as only skill and use it the guy will not use it

mainxstage

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Dec 2005

United Mercenaries of Destruction

Mo/Me

I took him down by letting him cast useless spells on me like spirit shackles and spirit of failure. I didnt have to smack him with my wand once.

Skill bar:

Hex breaker, Empathy, Backfire, Spirit Shackles, Spirit of Failure, Essense Bond, Life Attunement, Healing Breeze.

Atts:
Domination - Max
Healing Prayers - Max

Cast Hex breaker and let it recharge before you enter. If he casts Hex Breaker as well hit him with spirit shackles then backfire + empathy. If not then just backfire + empathy. If he removes a hex recast hex breaker. Died pretty quick.

Shimus DarkRaven

Shimus DarkRaven

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

Titusville, PA <nowhere>

KOD <Knights of the Dragonrose><Guild Officer>

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by leeky baby
if ur a monk or a monk secondary then just take healing breze as only skill and use it the guy will not use it
/Agree. It's a glitch in the system, unless it's a conditional use, he won't use Hb. Pure melee will own him so Max damage weapon+Healing breeze = Ownage + bonus =)

--The Shim

jmfcuk

jmfcuk

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Dec 2005

England

Global Guild Slayers

N/Me

I just set my necro to blood and domination, and used empathy, vamp gaze, and all sacrifice spells.

The guy had a bow so use empathy, then watch as he kills himself FAST with the combo of that and sacrifice spells! You need Vamp gaze, because when his health is real low you need that extra push to kill him.

Did it in 7-8secs with this but i was lvl 20, and somethin like lvl 14 on dom and blood, but it is prob the easiest with N/Me or Me/N, as every1s been saying!

Bubba Lips

Bubba Lips

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

North Carolina

The Grave Diggers [gds]

Mo/W

For most classes, take 2 skills only

1 healing and an 1 interrupt

All you gotta do is interrupt his healing and u win.

Feminist Terrorist

Feminist Terrorist

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Oh Noes! The 'burbs!

I don't know where you guys are getting this idea that the doppel won't use healing breeze. It's simply not true. I just attempted it with my mo/me and the doppel uses breeze quite freely. I sat there and watched to be sure.

unienaule

unienaule

I dunt even get "Retired"

Join Date: Aug 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

If you read more carefully, he won't use it if you go pure melee.

Arcien Trueflight

Arcien Trueflight

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2005

Retrieving an arrow from my latest kill.

Nova Alliance [Nova]

R/E

I beat him in about 20 seconds with my R/Mo, I cast mending on myself outside, and when I got in, as I expected, he tried to cast it. So, I used Distracting shot, and for the next 18-19 seconds I just shot at him until he tried casting mending again and I killed him. Short, simple, and sweet.

Prafessional Playa

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Dec 2005

I am a necro/monk and i have tried at least 30 times trying to kill the doppleganger. If you have any suggestions please let me know

tuperwho

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Tenacious Knights of Doom [TKD]

I believe the easy necro strategy is to bring skills for him to use that will sacrifice life. Meanwhile, you don't use them, you just use your wand.

Prafessional Playa

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Dec 2005

I have a n/mo and i brought sacrifice spells and everything you guys said but he just does bow and axe damage and woops me everytime... if i die but he is still bleeding and dies will i still ascend?

Beelzebubba

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2005

USA

Eyes of the Seer [Seer]

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Prafessional Playa
I have a n/mo and i brought sacrifice spells and everything you guys said but he just does bow and axe damage and woops me everytime... if i die but he is still bleeding and dies will i still ascend?
No, you won't. I am having the same problem. No matter what combination I bring he still somehow seems to heal himself. Even when I bring no skills that heal. He'll use the sacrifice stuff, but almost immediately goes from half health to full health. Any ideas on what's happening here?

Cold

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

UK

Just killed her with my ele.
+16 in earth and the rest in energy storage.
Skills: Obsidian Flame, Crystal Wave and Meteor Shower + any useless non-healing long-casting spells.

As soon as you get in she casts Meteor Shower. Get closer and hit her with Crystal Wave (106dmg ignoring armor), then run away and keep casting Obsidian Flame (118dmg per hit ignoring armor). That's about it.

Skuld

Skuld

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Thousend Tigers Apund Ur Head [Ttgr]

A/

I did something similar with me ele, didn't even equip any specialist skills, just killed it with fireball phoenix meteor and so on while it was casting shower

Anarki

Anarki

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Sweden

Almost Famous

W/N

Well I just kicked his sorry ass without even losing once out of 5 tries. He just couldnt kill me.
I am a Ranger/Monk and i used:

1. Savage Shot
2. Hunter's Shot
3. Troll Unguent
4. Favorable Winds
5. Read the Wind
6. Comfort Animal
7. Charm Animal
8. Restore Life

Once you start use immediately Read The Wind then as soon as you're done casting shoot with Savage Shot (Doppleganger will try to summon Favorable Winds). Then use Troll Unguent and just shoot at him or go to close combat if you prefer (his axe is weaker than bow), however it doesnt really matter since you are gonna kill him anyway
At the point when he tries to use Troll Unguent your Savage Shot will be ready so interrupt it. He might first try to use Read The Wind. Dont interrupt that one just wait for Troll Unguent.
Repeat that strategy every time he tries to use Troll Unguent, he will die in about 20-40 seconds which is enough for bonus too.
I just did it 5 times in a row and had no problems. Every Ranger should be able to do it since I havent used my Monk skills at all.

Mistcane

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2005

Team Head [ShOt]

Me/E

Ok, I have tried 30+ times with my Mo/W. I have tried using no healing skills and still couldn't beat him. He is doing 100+ dmg with his axe. Why does he have an axe and a bow if all I have is a wand? Anyways, how do you Mo/W kill him?

WolflordUlrik

WolflordUlrik

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2005

League of Enders

W/N

Based only upon my personal experience i say the dopple is easy to beat as long as your a good player.
The latest build i faced him with was with my W/n: vile touch, hamstring, sever, gash, and victory is mine +others not important.
I went in fully skilled for pvp cause i just came from the competition arenas. I forgot i had to fight him and never had trble b4 so why reskill?

23secs

Mistcane

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2005

Team Head [ShOt]

Me/E

Finally beat the dopple as a Mo/W. Retribution,Healing Breeze, and Divine Boon--Drok Armor, gg dopple.

temp

temp

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

my bedroom

Band Of Death UK

the is the best way for monk

take in only 2 skill

healing breeze and retriubtion..... your doppleganger doesnt use them so he kills himself

over in a few seconds...ace