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sidepocket13

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

New England

Metallica Roadies

Mo/Me

06 Sep 2005 at 16:35 - 363

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiffin

the way gold drops work are the fact that guild wars reviews how many gold weapons you have over your account, the less you have in storage/iventory the more they will drop.

if that were true i would get gold drops constantly! 2 fully ascended chars and 1 gold drop between the 2. a max sheild with high req and no mods..........

tiffin

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2005

united kingdom

W/Mo

06 Sep 2005 at 16:40 - 364

well it works for me, perhaps its off chance, but whenever i have no golds they drops 1-2 per run

Anton H

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

Corvallis.

The Company / LRS

W/

06 Sep 2005 at 22:40 - 365

All I can say is that Hydras and Griffons don't drop anything anymore.

Used to be a few golds per trip, now nothing but crap crap crap.

This doesn't really bother me much, as I only use these areas for attribute refunds, but it was nice to get a worthless gold item time to time.

Defendpeace Necros

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Three Fame [Run]

W/

06 Sep 2005 at 22:45 - 366

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anton H

All I can say is that Hydras and Griffons don't drop anything anymore.

Used to be a few golds per trip, now nothing but crap crap crap.

This doesn't really bother me much, as I only use these areas for attribute refunds, but it was nice to get a worthless gold item time to time.

i still get gold drops, yesterday i salvaged a 3:1 vamp from axe...

Drognan

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

Jackson, TN

The Hellplague

W/Mo

07 Sep 2005 at 04:14 - 367

OK, with everyone so excited about this build, I thought I might share my build with you also. It is very easy for a Wa/Mo to make, and is virtually foolproof....

First off, my Armament is All Platemail set, except for the boots, which are Knight's. All Major Runes (Vigor, Tactics, Strength, Swordsmanship, Absorption). I wield a simple Spatha of Defense (15% while enchanted / +5 Armor) and the collector Crimson (+45 health while enchanted / -2 dmg enchanted).

I have 2 in Smiting, 9 in Strength, 14 Swordsmanship, and 13 Tactics.

Skill set is as follows (in order from left to right).....

Galrath Slash, Power Strike, Bonnetti's Defense, Gladiator's Defense, Watchful Spirit, Balthatzar's Spirit, Healing Signet, and Sprint(optional; used to get away from Rockshots [ their disrupts SUCK] )......in that order.

1. Start with Spirits

2. Run into group, attack for a min., use Bonnetti's, gain energy, while attacking.

3. Galrath then Power, when Bonnetti's is about to go off, and it will recharge Bonnetti's.

4. Then hit Gladiator's, when it becomes available.

5. Healing Signet while Gladiator's is on.

Repeat steps 2 and 3, until Glad's is back up, then hit it again.
If your health gets low for any reason, hit Healing Signet, while Gladiator's is on.

Repeat and Farm solo forever. I am up to 97k now, not to mention the numerous killer Golds I have found, and the numerous Dune Borrower Jaws and Minotaur Horns I get from the solo Elona Reach mission run (just the first part). If you are ever on, and want to see some of the stuff I collect, or want to see me in action, my main farmer is Synthia Starstriker.

Dazzler

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

E/Me

08 Sep 2005 at 16:34 - 368

Exactly how did they "nerf" it?

tiffin

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2005

united kingdom

W/Mo

08 Sep 2005 at 18:01 - 369

they stopped it working with cyclone axe and bonnettis. im fed up with the guild wars team.

Dazzler

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

E/Me

08 Sep 2005 at 18:09 - 370

Please. That was very exploitive anyway and not at all inline with the intended purpose of ZF. Farming should work just as well without that exploit.

Levi Garett

Old School Nub

Join Date: Jun 2005

ABQ, NM

Guildless

Mo/Me

08 Sep 2005 at 18:13 - 371

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiffin

they stopped it working with cyclone axe and bonnettis. im fed up with the guild wars team.

It really shouldn't trigger on non-monk skills anyways.

Big deal. Use Baths' Aura instead. It's better anyways.

TheStonedOne

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Netherlands , Amsterdam

The Core Supremacy

R/N

08 Sep 2005 at 18:31 - 372

Wouldn't u get more hp and maybe even atribute points if u would use 2 superior and 2 minor +1 major instead of just 5 major coz u can lower the high atributes and add that 2 the lower atributes?

Sol Faithman

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

WOLF

W/Mo

08 Sep 2005 at 18:34 - 373

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiffin

they stopped it working with cyclone axe and bonnettis. im fed up with the guild wars team.

**Confused** Cyclone never used to fire Zealots anyway. Bonetti's yes, but not cyclone axe. Isn't Bonetti's a stance anyway and I thought I read they'd stopped shouts firing zealots, not stances??

Haven't had chance to check my build since the update - waiting for the in-laws to go home before I jump on the pc for some serious catch up

Rich

Eet GnomeSmasher

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2005

In my head

08 Sep 2005 at 19:05 - 374

Yeah really. Complaining about the fix to Zealot's Fire is pretty ridiculous. The skill was broken as hell as almost any skill triggered it...which was NOT intended. You can't honestly be surprised that they fixed it...Shouts working with Zealot's Fire? Anyone with a brain would have known it was a bug.

Chev of Hardass

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2005

Under a rock

zP

Me/

08 Sep 2005 at 19:16 - 375

Cyclone used to set off Zelouts fire, ahem Griffon/ Troll farming.

It wasn't a bug, but it was pretty brutal when a group of friends and I built a smite team and replaced the warriors with Monk/W with axes and kept Zelouts fire (at smite 16) on then just spammed stances, shouts, and cyclone.

If A.Net saw the speed that other teams were wasted, they saw they needed to put a stop to the insanity.

That yeam was

2 Mo/W Smite/Axe
2 E/Mo Energy Storage/Smite
1 N/Mes all about the well of profain before the other necro got it
2 Mo/W healers
1 Mo/W Prot

I would have loved to hear the TS discussion on who to attack first.

I think what they did absolutely killed my Griffon run Speed skill point farming, but whatever, there is a will, and a way, I'm sure.

tiffin

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2005

united kingdom

W/Mo

08 Sep 2005 at 20:52 - 376

yeah, thankyou you chev. It was no bug, guild wars are just trying to balance everything out, which is so unfair for the people that are experienced, the game needs more experienced players to keep it moving. Am very annoyed. My whole guild is absolutley furious. Its there lame attempt of stopping farming, i wouldnt be so mad if they gave you more money for mission, come on 140 gold shared between 8, come off it!! lame lame lame. trying to nerf farming is stupid. None of these problems come up in final fantasy. perhaps i should stick to that and stop complaining on these forums. lol! sorry guys. Does no other farmers agree with me here?!

kleps

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

W/Mo

08 Sep 2005 at 21:45 - 377

i could care less. i didnt use a smiter to kill griffs or trolls anyways, although i did use cyclone and bonettis. my setup is warrior skill based. i'll check to see if it still works when i go home.

Believe

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2005

GRT

Mo/W

10 Sep 2005 at 02:24 - 378

I never use Breeze i found out that Bals works faster then Breeze you deal a ton more damage so they die in half teh time. Breeze is really unecassary.

Eet GnomeSmasher

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2005

In my head

10 Sep 2005 at 02:32 - 379

I'm still solo farming Griffins and various other places. You just need to find other builds to do it. I'm even soloing Perdition Rock with two separate builds, none of which are monk based at all, nor with a warrior primary. My point is that there's always a way...

Damaskos

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Sep 2005

Some where in Europe

Pelit Online

Mo/E

11 Sep 2005 at 07:08 - 380

Can I farm Griffons for Monk/Ele profenssions? I think is good to put attributes, some like this: Heal: 9 Smite: 9 Prot: 10 and Earth: 1-6, maybe Divine: 1-5.

Amokdj

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2005

KOT

W/Mo

12 Sep 2005 at 01:20 - 381

Ok this is my set up. Been using it for about 2 months now.
Healing prayers - 8
Smiting prayers -10
axe masetery -10
tactics -8

exact same skills

gear-

great axe of enchanting 6-28, +15% dmg while enchanted, Enchants last 20% longer
Crimson Carapace Shield +45 hp, -2 dmg, (can you rune a shield) **wha wha noob alert**
Glads helm of magor vigor
" hauberk of magor absorption
" gauntlets (don't know what rune to use) tips please
Glads leggs of minor tactics
Knights boots of minor axe mastery

bank roll - 3.2k platinum

jdawg224

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

Dawn's Omen

W/Mo

12 Sep 2005 at 02:05 - 382

can you fix the link for the video? it doesn't seem to work.

hamburghannes

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/Me

12 Sep 2005 at 07:07 - 383

Damaskos

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Sep 2005

Some where in Europe

Pelit Online

Mo/E

12 Sep 2005 at 09:13 - 384

Lol, that was good ^^ He-Man does Griffon Runs too

T1Cybernetic

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2005

Wakefield, West Yorkshire, Uk, Nr Earth

Alternate Evil Gamers [aeg]

N/

12 Sep 2005 at 13:48 - 385

Quote:

Originally Posted by hamburghannes

Hahahahaaa man i so wish i found that pic somewhere first,

Quote:

Originally Posted by He-man

Woot woot a 1337 Sword !!1

hamburghannes

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/Me

12 Sep 2005 at 14:09 - 386

made that one by myself - took me 2 minutes :P

Algren Cole

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

12 Sep 2005 at 14:23 - 387

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damaskos

Can I farm Griffons for Monk/Ele profenssions? I think is good to put attributes, some like this: Heal: 9 Smite: 9 Prot: 10 and Earth: 1-6, maybe Divine: 1-5.

just do the runs as a pure monk with prot spirit.

Damaskos

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Sep 2005

Some where in Europe

Pelit Online

Mo/E

16 Sep 2005 at 12:22 - 388

Quote:

Originally Posted by Algren Cole

just do the runs as a pure monk with prot spirit.

Ok, thanks alot!

ownyoglutes

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2005

PA

Runners Inc.

W/Mo

16 Sep 2005 at 14:47 - 389

try using this combo i think it works well after the patch:

1-Bonettis
2-Cyclone
3-Healing Hands [E]
4-Shielding Hands
5-Balthazars Aura
6-Vigorous Spirit
7-Live Vicariously
8-Mending

Attributes:
Healing Prayers-10
Smiting Prayers-9
Protection Prayers-5
Axe Mastery-9
Tactics-9

Equip another axe and a mo attribute *not divine favor* energy item, and switch to that when u cast BA.

The sequence i do is this: round em up, attack one, then its 3,2,1,6,2,1,4,2,1,*switch sets*,5,2,1,3,2,1,6,2,1,4,2,1,*switch*,5,2,1,2,1,3 ,2,1, then keep doing that until they are dead....usually takes only 2 casts of BA. ENJOY!
-Glutes

Billiard

Doctor of Philosophy

Join Date: May 2005

Pacific Northwest

Team Love [kiSu] www.teamlove.us

16 Sep 2005 at 15:57 - 390

Yep those skills work well - good thinking with the monk weapon though! I have to wait for energy to be up to use BA and this will speed it up now!

capitalist

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

16 Sep 2005 at 16:29 - 391

Build I use with great success:

Orison
Balth. Aura
Bonetti's
Healing Hands
Healing Breeze
Zealot's Fire
Balth. Spirit
Mending

Use whatever weapon you want. I use the HoD sword, but it really doesn't matter.

Damaskos

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Sep 2005

Some where in Europe

Pelit Online

Mo/E

16 Sep 2005 at 16:46 - 392

What skills I put my Monk Elementalist? I wanna do LARGE Griffon Runs. So I think I put attributes like this: Healing 9, Smiting, 14 Protection, 14 and end of my guy, some points for Earth Magic, to get good Earthquake and Aaftershock ...

Algren Cole

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

16 Sep 2005 at 17:29 - 393

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damaskos

What skills I put my Monk Elementalist? I wanna do LARGE Griffon Runs. So I think I put attributes like this: Healing 9, Smiting, 14 Protection, 14 and end of my guy, some points for Earth Magic, to get good Earthquake and Aaftershock ...

you need to run a 105/85/55 build. buy crap armor and load it with 5 superior runes.

Healing needs to be high enough to give you 4 pips for mending and 8 pips for breeze.

Divine Favor should be atleast 7

then everything else into healing/prot(protective is reliant on prot)

use Protective Spirit + Balthazars Spirit + Mending + Balthazars Aura + Zealot's Fire + Essence Bond + Orison + Healing Breeze.

round em up and cast away.

it helps to have an Enchantment Wrap (+10%)

if you have Shield of Judgement you can get away with not having the Orison

Aetherfox

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

Mo/R

16 Sep 2005 at 17:42 - 394

my own personal w/mo build with as much punch as possible without dying

cyclone
gladiators
bonettis
vigorous spirit
live vicariously
balthazar spirit
balthazars aura
symbol of wrath

can shove in 11 points in smite for pretty decent double AOE damage from both balthazars and symbol, and hold gladiators on as long as possible.

Chev of Hardass

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2005

Under a rock

zP

Me/

16 Sep 2005 at 20:13 - 395

Well, I can get 81% of a skill point per run now. Thank you 15,000exp skill points.

I think the best move is to drop Zealouts Fire, if you are a W/Mo.

The drops are still margional, but I am after skill points, not drops.

Skean Dau

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

British Columbia, Canada

Me No Lickey Guilds!!

Mo/W

16 Sep 2005 at 20:25 - 396

So if I am a Mo/W, what the heck should I do. I have never solo'd anything and have just hit the desert for the first time....I know NOOB!!!!

Algren Cole

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

16 Sep 2005 at 22:23 - 397

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skean Dau

So if I am a Mo/W, what the heck should I do. I have never solo'd anything and have just hit the desert for the first time....I know NOOB!!!!

you do what everyone else does....you copy the build from the forum and round up all the griffons @ prophets path

Chev of Hardass

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2005

Under a rock

zP

Me/

16 Sep 2005 at 23:20 - 398

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skean Dau

So if I am a Mo/W, what the heck should I do. I have never solo'd anything and have just hit the desert for the first time....I know NOOB!!!!

As I understand it, (I don't play monk) you cannot round up all the griffons in Prophets path.

Monk Farmers thrive on Protective spirit reducing the damage they take to levels that Healing Breeze and Mending can recover from. So, really, you need to find some melee characters (or characters that don't strip enchantments or interupt) and fight them in small groups.

I have given you three skills, the other is Healing Hands, and Most likely, since you are a monk, you will be spamming heal spells on your self, so Zealouts fire is a good one to start with.

That's five.

Balthazars Aura is another great farming spell.

Six

be creative, read the descriptions, and see what you can come up with. Beware of skills that have a long recharge time and short durration. It can take 45 seconds or more to kill off groups.

My first farming build came from these forums, it is still a brutally strong build, but I have given up some reliability for the ability to kill huge groups with speed. I die, but I have about 1 million exp in farming alone, so know that there are more builds out there than you see on these pages. In fact, the people that I teach my builds to, never like them, and change a skill or two.

For reference, and yes riverside is (not impossible to farm) not worth the time it takes to farm.

SuperJ made this one wayyyyyy back

Sol Faithman

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

WOLF

W/Mo

17 Sep 2005 at 17:27 - 399

IIRC, Zealots doesn't work now when you use skills on yourself - it only fires when you cast something on an ally.

I've replaced it with SoW in my farming build - not ideal but does the job.

cyclone axe
bonetti's def
vig spirit
balth aura
SoW
healing breeze
sprint (or for great justice depending on where I'm farming)
live vicariously

attribs are healing 10, smiting 12, strength 1 (due to a rune), axe 9, tactics 7 (coz of nice +43 -2 shield requiring 7 in this)

cyclone + vig spirit + live vic = 20 health per swing - against 10 foes that's 200 health per!!
cyclone against a high number of foes = bonetti's active pretty much all the time -> very little damage due to evade + energy reaching max of 27 pretty fast -> balth aura and SoW easy to trigger.

Hope this helps

Rich

Chev of Hardass

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2005

Under a rock

zP

Me/

17 Sep 2005 at 17:46 - 400

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sol Faithman

IIRC, Zealots doesn't work now when you use skills on yourself - it only fires when you cast something on an ally.

Well, Zealouts does work when you cast something on yourself.

Skills that still set off Zealouts:
Healing hands
Vig Spirit
Mending
Healing Breeze
the lst is huge....... any spell that targets an ally and that ally CAN be you

But, yes, Zealouts is no longer the ideal Mana/damage ratio for warriors that run stances and attack skills. Symbol of Wrath has always been a favorite of mine for farming. That's waht I replaced Zealout's with.

Damaskos

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Sep 2005

Some where in Europe

Pelit Online

Mo/E

17 Sep 2005 at 18:55 - 401

Someone plz, tell me how I put my Attributes and what skills I take with me, when I wanna go try use Farming

my 1st time to try farm so ...

Viruzzz

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

17 Sep 2005 at 19:32 - 402

i'm thinking victory is mine. cyclone axe plus apply poison and some evade/block stance