Griffon Run

Dazzler

Dazzler

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Antonio Cappello
Kudos to the OP, that video is awesome. On a side-note, Gaile says that farming is 100% ok, but if so why can only monk and warriors farm good areas? I mean there must be some creatures in the desert that are weak to elemental damage.
Read through the thread. I posted an Ele build using Fire and Water with a little bit of monk skills which can farm this very nicely. Although when I switched to all monk skills it was more efficient for this particular spot.

At any rate, there are lots of areas I farm as an Ele/Me using mostly Fire/Water skills.

I hear rangers are good at farming certain spots by laying lots of traps.

People say they can farm with Necro's, but I am not sure how they do it.

Same with Mesmers.

powdahound

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Troy, NY, USA

Mo/Me

A group of 3 rangers can clear out the first areas of the UW no problem. Drops are good with just 3 people, and it's very fun to watch 30 traps spring at once.

Divinus

Divinus

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Mississippi

My W/Mo uses the same rudamentary skills as you guys do, but I don't see how you all the need an actual "healing" spell. With Live Vicariously + Vigorous spirit and alternating between bonettis and cyclone axe frequently you should never even get close to dying.

I run the exact same place the person in the video does, but my skills are as follows:

Cyclone Axe

Executioners Strike (just for when that last one is hanging around and won't die)

Gladiators Defense (mainly for extra damage, although sometimes I'll jack up smiting and switch to shield of judgement)

Bonettis

Balthazars Spirit

Live Vicariously

Vigorous Spirit

Zealots Fire

I have no idea why the above bring healing hands or other self healing spells when they could be bringing spells that deal more damage and get the run finished quicker. With my build I never get in trouble unless more than 2 devourers follow me and they distract the vigorous spirit recast more than a few times.

powdahound

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Troy, NY, USA

Mo/Me

If I get a very large group on me I'd definitely die without healing hands. I've died in the time it takes cyclone axe to recharge before...

envee

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

California

W/Mo

I do EVERY griffon except if there is the Screamingclaw mob which is the Monk Boss. He is a pain in the ass.

You CANNOT use Zealous because for Kalgareth build he uses Mending + Live Vicariously which are kinda important and take the 2 mana regens.

**edit**And yes, Healing Hands may be the most important move on his build besides of course Cyclone Axe and Bonnetti's. I'd say those 3 are of equal importance. Maybe Bonnetti's is most impotant because thats your mana supply!

Flaming Prietess

Flaming Prietess

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2005

Angels of the godly

E/Mo

hmmmm has anyone tried to do griffon farming at level 15? becuase im level15 and i wanna try but onlu got like 373hp.and i tested the build in a smaller leveled area for farming (found so manys dyes and maybe farm there for em) and it worked so well all im missing is healing hands (cant get to ember light)can anyone tell me if it would work or im jsut wasting my time until i level to 20
healing is 5
smiting 6
axe mastery 11
tatics 7

capitalist

capitalist

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Flaming Prietess
hmmmm has anyone tried to do griffon farming at level 15? becuase im level15 and i wanna try but onlu got like 373hp.and i tested the build in a smaller leveled area for farming (found so manys dyes and maybe farm there for em) and it worked so well all im missing is healing hands (cant get to ember light)can anyone tell me if it would work or im jsut wasting my time until i level to 20
healing is 5
smiting 6
axe mastery 11
tatics 7

It will be hard without higher healing stats and with smiting that low. Just have someone run you to all the mission points in the desert, beat them and ascend. That should put you at lvl 20.

Flaming Prietess

Flaming Prietess

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2005

Angels of the godly

E/Mo

maybe i shoulda just go to my dye farming spots with hordes of monsters taht give me 34exp (like 100s gained 2 levels tehre) and get massive stacks of black blue red etc dyes..........

kleps

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Oy Roy
When i use mending and live vicariously they are taken off somehow by either the spiders or the monk boss, its killin me =[
if you cast them right after you leave augury, then run and gather, you'll be fine.

RotteN

RotteN

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

W/

nice movie

Anomaly

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

W/Mo

Tool > *

Guil

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

Team Flash

W/N

Anybody got any amazin set ups for farming with a W/N??? Really not interested in using secondary monk as too many people use that... it would be good to own a bit like that (not the same obiously) using the char. Much appreciated if someone helped me out.

Orochim4ru

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

mustache riders

I don't think you can mitigate enough damage to do this run nearly as fast as the other people can if you play a W/N. You might be able to farm other places, though.

Divinus

Divinus

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Mississippi

Healing Hands is NOT needed for this build. Not in my opinion, anyway. Since my last build I've taken out executioners strike and traded it for symbol of wrath, so the killing is even faster.

I have no idea how you all are needing to heal yourselves if you constantly are using bonettis. With Vig Spirit and Live Vicariously your life should almost always fill right back up every cyclone axe. Maybe you all are taking on the Rockshot Devourers, too?

I don't have great equipment either. Just a major vigor, major absorption in knights armor (I know it's glitched, looks cooler though).

If you keep up with recasting Vig Spirit then you shouldn't have any problems with health at all.

I also don't bother with that monk boss as he seems to cast guardian at times on whatever you're swinging at. It's not too bad beating all of the griffins around him, but fighting him 1 vs. 1 can be a pain.

John.Whorfin

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Guil
Anybody got any amazin set ups for farming with a W/N???
I use a W/N. It's not as fast as a smiter, and casters/unblockable attacks can be bad news, but it works good enough for me.

Sever Artery
Bonetti's Defense
Disciplined Stance/Dolyak Signet (depends on mobs being farmed)
Shield Stance
Sprint
Mark of Pain (your sword must do 'slashing' damage to trigger MoP's effect)
Spiteful Spirit
Heal Signet

8 Strength
14 Tactics
10 Sword
10 Curses

Gladiators armor w/ Ascalon helm.

Guil

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

Team Flash

W/N

Hmm thats cool although i dont use curses...i specialise in death magic... i hope im not being to specific, i just love death magic

Id love to be able to farm well using a sword and death magic

Drakharran Zealot

Drakharran Zealot

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Kanada, eh?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Divinus
Healing Hands is NOT needed for this build. Not in my opinion, anyway. Since my last build I've taken out executioners strike and traded it for symbol of wrath, so the killing is even faster.

I have no idea how you all are needing to heal yourselves if you constantly are using bonettis. With Vig Spirit and Live Vicariously your life should almost always fill right back up every cyclone axe. Maybe you all are taking on the Rockshot Devourers, too?

I don't have great equipment either. Just a major vigor, major absorption in knights armor (I know it's glitched, looks cooler though).

If you keep up with recasting Vig Spirit then you shouldn't have any problems with health at all.

I also don't bother with that monk boss as he seems to cast guardian at times on whatever you're swinging at. It's not too bad beating all of the griffins around him, but fighting him 1 vs. 1 can be a pain.
You are either not fighting all of the griffons and minotaurs at once, or you just get lucky. Look at it like this: You're bonetti's and cycloning happily, but then your vigorous spirit or your zealot's fire starts to wear out. You recast that spell, thus removing bonetti for a second and dying.

rickhunterx

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

Council of The Draconis

W/Mo

dunno about you guys but I carry mending, live vicariously, breeeze, bonnetis, cyclone. Aggro a bunch of em, use cyclone axe to get adrenaline quick and then use bonnetis for mana......when bonnetis begins to run out cast healing breeze, then immediately use cyclone axe for adrenaline, then immediately use bonnettis......and repeat. With this method you dont necessarily need to bring healing hands but you need to be good on your timing. Even with rockshot devourers, your chances of casting are pretty good while using bonnetis. But still, healling hands can be used as a backup in case you do get hit by distracting shot.

BTW from this place I've farmed
TWO +30HP Bowgrips of Fortitude
One Perfect Insightful Staff head
Multiple golds and purple items with +12-15% while above 50% HP (many of which I use)


So for the love of god, farm this place while you can....cuz the big nerf bat is coming

moonshadow

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

Chocolate Dragons

Wow, I just saw the video...it was amazing!! So well done... I can't wait to show the hubby. Thanks to the OP!

bunz of steel

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2005

Revolution fighters

W/Mo

hey im a warrio and was wondering if u could help me on my griffin run?

Ander Deathblade

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

hmmm, I always farm Sand Drakes near elona reach, tend to get a lot of purples and some golds there as well.

Big Shooter

Big Shooter

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

Brotherhood Of Destruction

W/Mo

what program did you use to take such a good video?

spartans

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

Excellent information ppl, thanyou very much.
Have experimented with OPs build.
Found and interesting adjustment, I am using a shield 16arm with +7arm (against piercing damage) and also a +5arm grip on my axe, have been able to farm griffons and minotaurs with basically same build but with extra armour can drop a skill for someting else to help with bosses.

the dragon king

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

in teh meep

Gods Of Koas

W/Mo

meep im sucking at this lol not one succesfull run

no matter what i do i die

its it the fact that im using a healing ankah that gives +10 energy and +4 armor when enchanted?
i cast healing hands all is fine
then i use vigourus and cyclone put up bonetis and healing breeze
and i keep using bonetis after every axe also i allways recast vig and healing breeze

but i allways die before healing hands is ready agin

what am i doing wrong
im using all the same skills as the topic starter cept no smiting and i use watch yourself instead :\
any tips

and i cast vicarious and mending before battle
i have 20 energy left after that to start the battle with

Anomaly

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Orochim4ru
spiders? where are you trying to farm...?

Moss spiders. Pre-ascalon. The loot is huge.

OverlordTyrael

OverlordTyrael

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

#amplitudestudios

Xen of Onslaught [XoO]

W/Mo

I've been using a slightly modified version of Kalgareth's build it I must say it's doing fine. I die sometimes vs. griffons, but I can take trolls with ease. Nice work! Sadly, everything's been nerfed so the best drop I got was a rare defender from a sand drake with horrible stats so... Any new suggestions on farming places?

*Edit*
Here's my setup:
9 Healing
7 Smiting
5 Tactics
10 Strength
12 Axe Mastery

Equipment:
Vampiric Battlepick of Enchanting
6-28 dmg req 10
15% dmg while enchanted
3/1 vamp
enchantments last 20% longer

Sundering Long Sword of Fortitude (for gathering up the griffons)
15-22 dmg req 11
15% (while health is above 50%)
customized +20%
health +29
8% Sundering chance (need to replace)

Defender
Armor: 15
req 7 Strength
health +45 (while enchanted)
(if someone has a better strength shield they wish to sell contact me through PM)

Aegis
Armor: 16
req 11 Tactics
health +40 while enchanted
-1 damage reduction while enchanted

Skills:
Bonetti's Defense
Cyclone Axe
Vigorous Spirit
Zealot's Fire
Symbol of Wrath (Healing Breeze if doing griffons)
Healing Hands
Live Vicariously
Mending

Hope this helps!

the dragon king

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

in teh meep

Gods Of Koas

W/Mo

: :

im going crazy i cant get my hp up enough ugh and whenever i use bonetis to get a bit of protection it doesnt help because i cant use cyclone axe or healing breeze or anything with out it ending

im just at a loss i cant do anything

shadowzfall

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2005

Night Raiderz

W/Mo

Im still confused as to how you manage to get the stats 12-12-4-9-8 if i am correct i cant manage to get that many. Can i also get details of your weapons because i will buy similar ones.

Borealis

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Black Rose Gaming

Mo/W

I got a shiny gold war axe off the griffons tonight trying to rebuild my attr. points after a screwed up UW solo run, I was in such a hurry I just clicked and clicked on the axe next thing I see is "you have salvaged 5 wood planks". Needless to say I was kinda pissed.

Kasperson

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

Fin Knights

R/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by the dragon king
: :

im going crazy i cant get my hp up enough ugh and whenever i use bonetis to get a bit of protection it doesnt help because i cant use cyclone axe or healing breeze or anything with out it ending

im just at a loss i cant do anything

Well use Gladiator's Defense and when u ar using it i can use healing breeze and cyclone axe same time.

Precur

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2005

Magog, Qc .. Canada

SCUM

N/Me

This is for those who have not figure out his points placement.


Strength: 10+2 (61) = minor rune plus helm --- 12
Axe Mastery: 9+3 (48) = Superior axe --- 12
Tactics: 3+1 (6) = minor rune --- 4
Healing Prayers: 9 (48) --- 9
Smiting Prayers: 8 (37) --- 8

Total attribute points used: 200/200

also used in this build is a superior vigor and superior absorbion

This is just one of the possible points layout for this build though I put more points into smiting for more effective killing ...


Pax

Divinus

Divinus

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Mississippi

Quote:
Originally Posted by Drakharran Zealot
You are either not fighting all of the griffons and minotaurs at once, or you just get lucky. Look at it like this: You're bonetti's and cycloning happily, but then your vigorous spirit or your zealot's fire starts to wear out. You recast that spell, thus removing bonetti for a second and dying.

I run from augury, aggro what looks to be 9 minotaur. After that I run into two spawns of 4 griffins. At this point, there are 17 in total after me. The griffins are faster than we are, so I'll cast gladiators defense and keep running. After this I'll head to the right where there are usually lots more of them. I'll run right into whatever boss is there (featherfist or the monk one) I'll have what I'm guessing is the max number of Griffin/Minotaur you can have on you at once time as nothing else physically fits around me. A few of the griffins will just kind of stand back about 5 yards and wait in line to have their shot.

I'm not saying this is easy, but if you guys are bringing healling breeze or hands then your timing just isn't that great. Once I stop and actually start fighting the first thing I cast is Vigorous Spirit. After this they'll really start beating on me so I'll hit a cyclone axe to recharge health. Directly after this is gladiators defense. While defense is going I'll cast zealots fire and then cyclone axe. Gladiators will run out and then it's time for bonettis. Cyclone, Bonetti, Cyclone, Bonetti until Gladiators Defense recharges. At which point you cast it, and recast Vigorous Spirit, cyclone once more and symbol of wrath... by this time they're all dead (or most of them are). If you do this run well enough you shouldn't need to recast zealots fire at all.

I'm not saying bringing healing breeze/hands is a bad idea, I'm saying it isn't a necessity. You don't need it to successfully do this run if you have good timing.

Yeah, I'm sure it's all luck as I've done this run near 100 times and died probably 3 times due to devourer intervention.

Warrior Blitz

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

W/Mo

Hi I'm trying to farm the griffons, and can't seem to have any luck. I'm using live vicariuously and mending then drawing about 9 and using cyclone axe,then bonettis,then vigorous spirit and repeating. My stats are healing 10,axe 12 and tactics 9, and I just can't seem to stay alive. Any help would be greatly appreciated

Krank

Krank

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

W/

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best part of this whole thread

TOOL BITCHES!!

Kasperson

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

Fin Knights

R/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Warrior Blitz
Hi I'm trying to farm the griffons, and can't seem to have any luck. I'm using live vicariuously and mending then drawing about 9 and using cyclone axe,then bonettis,then vigorous spirit and repeating. My stats are healing 10,axe 12 and tactics 9, and I just can't seem to stay alive. Any help would be greatly appreciated
Well in the beginig don't take all the minotaurs and griffons and all the time use somekind of stance what protect 75%. Only when you are using cyclone axe you don't have any protection but you gain a lot healt and adrinyle. So after that just quickly put Bonnetti's Defence on and wait that Cyclone Axe is recharged and do it again. And when your Vigorous Spirit runs end put Gladiator's Defence on and do Vigorous and maybe some other skills. While you have Gladiator you can use anything else but not Bonnetti.

badassmonkee

badassmonkee

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Capital Of The Highlands

XoO

W/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazzler
I've switched up my E/Mo build to something more effective--I can now handle the entire group usually--although I can still rarely kill the bosses. New build:

Water: 15 (hat + sup rune)
Smiting: 11
E Storage: whatever is left...8 or 9 I think.

Divine Boon
Balthazars Aura
Zealouts Fire
Watchful Spirit
Balthazars Spirit
Essence Bond
Mist Form {E}
Armor of Frost

Start off casting Balthazar's Spirt, Essence Bond, Watchful Spirit (2 pips health regen--needed while luring the griffons).

Then lure the 3 sets of minotaurs. Once I've got the minotaurs on me, I cast Armor of Frost to pump up my armor while I lure the griffons, since they hit me alot during the lure. Then go gather as many griffons as I can and try to shake the damn MF rockshots. Keep doing this until I either have them all rounded up and no rockshots nearby or until my health drops to about 150. At that point I stop and cast:

Mist Form
Balth. Aura
Spam Divine Boon
Cast Armor of Frost whenever it recharges
Spam Divine Boon and cast Balth. Aura whenever it is available.
Recast Mist Form whenever it is available.

Once some of the monsters die I start having E issues. You will then find me plinking away with my staff and casting Divine Boon whenever my E hits 5. During this period, I will often make sure I "remove" the active Divine Boon enchantment so I can get that pip of E regen. I can beat the monk boss usually but it is not really worth it as it comes down to 5 minute duel of attrition as I wear him down with my staff while waiting to charge up to 25 E to cast Balthazars Aura. Considering I can do the entire run in under 4 minutes, it is not worth my time to spend another 5 just to kill this one boss when usually he drops nothing special.

So...now that the patch is out, this build doesnt work. ):

Mistform doesnt take into account that you are getting hit now.. So basically you run into energy problems fast. :|

Phades

Phades

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

I dont understand what changed with mistform, you still take damage from things like aftershock. I believe that would be loosly classified as "elemental" damage.

Xploit

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

Wake Forest, NC

Dingos Are Really Nifty

E/Me

Use Live Vicariously while you have bonetti's defense up. Use - Healing Hands - Zealots Fire - Vigorous Spirit - Cyclone Axe (if you have Gladiators) - Bonetti's Defense - Live Vicariously - Cyclone Axe - Bonetti's Defense - and whatever the 8th skill you have is if its healing breeze or w/e. Repeat Cyclone and Bonetti's, use Healing Hands if you ever need to cast 2 spells again at the same time, or just Bonetti's if you need to cast one spell and then use cyclone and bring bonetti's defense. Takes awhile to master if your new to this build.

Cast Mending right when you leave Augury.

Starsky-sama

Starsky-sama

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Land of the Z Chest \o/

[NOT]-Nomads of Turmoil.

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Warrior Blitz
Hi I'm trying to farm the griffons, and can't seem to have any luck. I'm using live vicariuously and mending then drawing about 9 and using cyclone axe,then bonettis,then vigorous spirit and repeating. My stats are healing 10,axe 12 and tactics 9, and I just can't seem to stay alive. Any help would be greatly appreciated
hmm. thing is why draw 9. just do them in the "herds" they come in. per group. pretty simple and I dont see any drop differences when it's done like this.
(since your not a smiter...)

shadowzfall

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2005

Night Raiderz

W/Mo

What Gear are u wearing because i belive u said u had like 5% damage reduction.