Griffon Run

Necronite

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2005

It's very nice people are seeking the perfect build ... sadly enough, they don't exist ... every skill can be countered, and a perfect build would ruin the game since everyone would take the build and win every guild battle or team arena ... this enver happened and never will ... everything can be countered and when I meet someone with this build with me being any character and I know about it I'd take my perfect counter skills and he'll be running very soon ...

Phades

Phades

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Umm hi, the topic is about pve, where the monsters dont dynamically adapt.

Dazzler

Dazzler

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by badassmonkee
So...now that the patch is out, this build doesnt work. ):

Mistform doesnt take into account that you are getting hit now.. So basically you run into energy problems fast. :|
Yes I am very upset about this.

I've been working on a new build E/Me using Mist Form and Channeling for Energy, but I've not got it worked out yet. I usually die 2-3 times before I get them all killed.

Defendpeace Necros

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Three Fame [Run]

W/

err i am getting some low gold drops these days in a lot of runs , ? is something nerfed or is it just my luck !! pls post some pics or say it isn't so !

Defendpeace Necros

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Three Fame [Run]

W/

GRIFFON RUN is nerfed ,, i think !!!! say it isnt so !

stumpy

stumpy

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2005

Canucklehead BC, Canada

Advanced Necro Undead Society

bah ... your not getting anything cause its coming to me ... your expectations have risen to high because you think you should be getting hot drops every few runs. I still get drops at the same pace I did 2 weeks ago. Its in your head.

Lynnrose

Lynnrose

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

SoF Victrix [SoF]

Quote:
Originally Posted by stumpy
bah ... your not getting anything cause its coming to me ... your expectations have risen to high because you think you should be getting hot drops every few runs. I still get drops at the same pace I did 2 weeks ago. Its in your head.
No joke. I've been getting an average of a gold item every other run (three in one run, once) over the past few days. In fact, if anything, it seems like the drops have improved in the area since the "new economy" patch.

stumpy

stumpy

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2005

Canucklehead BC, Canada

Advanced Necro Undead Society

so if we both have decent drops then its a misconception on people's own expectations.

I get an average of a 1-2 gold drops every 4 or 5 runs.

Defendpeace Necros

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Three Fame [Run]

W/

ok i might be wrong, but me and my friend are farming and none gold drops, dunno what is happening i will keep trying again!

Algren Cole

Algren Cole

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

I just did a griffon run and it didn't drop an Uber weapon I could sell for 100 plat...griffon run is NERFED!@#!@# OMGZ@#!#

Red Sonya

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

I just did a griffon run and got (2) purple drops (1) gold drop (2) silver dye (1) red dye and (1) purple dye. It's not nerfed it's just random luck.

Algren Cole

Algren Cole

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Sonya
I just did a griffon run and got (2) purple drops (1) gold drop (2) silver dye (1) red dye and (1) purple dye. It's not nerfed it's just random luck.

he's lying. it's nerfed. he just doesn't want you out looking for his new farming spot.

Dazzler

Dazzler

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

E/Me

My experience is after I farm it 2-3 times I need to go farm 2 or 3 other areas 2 or 3 times or else my gold drops stop.

At any rate, here is my new Ele build after the mist form changes. It is not as effective but it seems to work good enough.

E/Me

Weapon-1 Collectors Water Staff with +18% Enchanting
Weapon-2 Collectors Fire Staff with +29HP

Attributes:
Inspiration - 6
Water - 16 (12 + sup rune + hat)
Fire - 10 (I should add a sup rune to this...but just haven't done it yet--or at least a minor...)
Energy - 7 (6 + minor rune)

Skills
Channeling
Lava Font
Flame Burst
Meteor Shower
Mist Form
Fire Storm
Aura of Restoration
Eruption

Go run and aggro a bunch of stuff, have Water staff equipped. If your health gets down to about 200 you better stop and fight.

Timing is very important with this build and if you don't get it just right you will die. If you have a different enchanting mod or do not have a 16 Water, you will need to figure out what to change to make it work. This order works for me.
Cast spells in this order:
Equip Water Staff
Mist Form
Channeling
Aura Of Restoration
Equip Fire Staff
Lava Font
Meteor Shower
Fire Storm
Eruption*
Lava Font
Flame Burst
Lava Font
etc until Mist Form is ready.
Mist Form
Channeling
etc til they die.

* 20% of the time, your Mist Form will recharge extra fast thanks to the Water staff. If this happens, then dont bother casting Eruption and just be ready to cast Mist Form again before the old one runs out. Be happy when this happens as it makes it all much easier.

If you time it just right, your will finish casting Eruption exactly 5s before your Mist Form ends. It will then blind everyone for hopefully long enough to recast Mist Form. Make sure you don't let Channeling go down or you will have E problems very quickly. If you find that there are not many enemies left and your E is dropping because Channeling cannot keep up, then cast a fresh Mist Form and run and aggro some more mobs. I'd advise you to not stop to fight until Mist Form is ready again, but in the end, do what you gotta do...

Night Daftshadow

Night Daftshadow

Banned

Join Date: May 2005

In the forest

Hidden Shadows

R/Mo

people, just quit farming these griffons. they've been raped by ANet. it's time to move along.

Death by Ooga Booga

Death by Ooga Booga

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

TBMF

I believe you all are having problems because your Smiting is not high enough. Here is my setup and I kill 20-30 Griffons in 60secs. or less.

8-Healing (Thats all u need to get +3 mending)
11-Smiting
5-Strength
8-Axe
8-Tactics

Bonetti's Defense
Cyclone Axe
Healing Hands (E)
Vigorous Spirit
Zealot's Fire
Balthazar's Aura
Live Vicariously
Mending

Just remember that the Axe is not your main attack strength. With 11 in Smiting Balthazars Aura does 21dmg a second and with Zealots fire it does some major damage. So crank that Smiting up and u will notice a huge difference. Good Luck and enjoy those Drops!

Dazzler

Dazzler

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

E/Me

I farm with with Miteethor's V3.0 invinci-monk build. It could not be any easier

coleslawdressin

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Victory on Demand [VoD]

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazzler
I farm with with Miteethor's V3.0 invinci-monk build. It could not be any easier
can you kill the bosses with that build?

nice avatar btw

Guil

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

Team Flash

W/N

Anyone know of any gd w/n set ups for farmin????? preferablly using a sword.

John.Whorfin

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Guil
Anyone know of any gd w/n set ups for farmin????? preferablly using a sword.
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...608#post343608

Dazzler

Dazzler

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

E/Me

Yes bosses go down just as easy with that build. The only boss I've ever had trouble with was a Mesmer blessed griffon boss over in Snake Dance -- and this was b/c he kept casting Diversion or some such on me, slowing down my ability to cast my dmg spells.

Guil - for w/n's: Mark of Pain on your target so that when you hit him with a sword, it damages all the nearby monsters. Plus alot of stances like Bonetti's and Shield Stance to keep a 75% evade up. Some necro skills to steal life for your healing. Hmm another good combo once you kill something would be:

Mark of Pain your next target, then Putrid Explosion to blow up the corpse. Everything would take ALOT Of damage from that! Maybe that will get your mind juices flowing and you can make a build.

Algren Cole

Algren Cole

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

to add to Dazzler you might want to look into using a well of blood or well of power to keep either your energy or your health up.

Guil

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

Team Flash

W/N

ta for the info..where do i get spiteful spirit and disciplined stance??

Artemis Entreri

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

N/Mo

Well this is my Build for Soloing Griffons in Augury.

W/MO

Healing 10
Axe 13
Tactics 11
Smite 4

Skills

Bonettis Defense
Cyclone Axe
"watch yourself"
Gladiators Defense
Healing Signet
Zealots Fire
Live Vicariously
Vigorous Spirit

Put on Live Vicariously obviously

with 10 Healing I receive +10 from vigorous spirit, and Vica

run around and when you gather all creatures, I use vigorous spirit and cyclone immed.
after that hit Bonettis, hit Glad Def, Healing signet, Zealots, cyclone, hit Bonettis, cyclone, making sure that my vigorous spirit does not falter, always hit Glad def when health getting low and hit your heal sig, works ALL the time. you can Spam watch yourself when a few have died to make it go faster.

And I dont want to hear it doesnt work cause i do It ALL the time


Artemis Entreri

Faith In Madness

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

my fastest griffon runs are from this Cyclone axe,Bonetti's Defence,Live Vicariosly,Vigorous Spirit,Healing breeze,Zealots Fire,Mending,Gladiators defence axe,11 tactics,11 Healings,10 and smiting,6

Guil

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

Team Flash

W/N

the w/n setup you gave me mentions disciplined stance and spiteful spirit...do they even exist??..i cant find em

Sentinel

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Somerset, NJ

aB

Quote:
Originally Posted by Guil
the w/n setup you gave me mentions disciplined stance and spiteful spirit...do they even exist??..i cant find em

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/skill/8...iplined-stance

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/skill/256-spiteful-spirit

Sent.-

Guil

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

Team Flash

W/N

thanks man...time to practice with my setup....workin pretty well

fuzzybulldozer

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

i have a similar build, somewhat different, with no vampiric on the axe. came up with it after about a week of playing and looking at the w/mo skills. i assure you that live vicariously is absolutely necessary, the heal from cyclone axe is too big to pass up.

Guil

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

Team Flash

W/N

finally been able to farm well now as a w/n at the griffons....cant take on too many at one go but still gives me good drops and lots a cash : )

AnitaLightz

AnitaLightz

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

E/R

I dunno what everyone is complaining about, I still get Gold drops every other run, however these Gold drops are not like you could sell for a lot so it doesn't matter if you get Gold items or not. Most of my Gold drops I sell it to the merchant for like 200 depends I guess. I had gained 1.5M XP since farming there thanks to this thread for the build, sad but the fact that I do it a lot but thats where I get my gold (cash) from. Kinda bored of it now though, so I am looking into UW farming. Any other builds/location beside this area?

A2597

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2005

Rage 3D

W/N

guil, mind sharing a W/N setup for that? I LOVE my W/N...tried W/M...just felt wrong, switched back...

Extremely Godlike

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

Vancouver, BC

Kings of Ascension

W/Mo

I got a 10/10 Furious hammer and a 10/10 Sundering hammer. The bad thing about Guild wars is whenever you salvage and you want the good part, it gives you the bad part

fuzzybulldozer

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by A2597
guil, mind sharing a W/N setup for that? I LOVE my W/N...tried W/M...just felt wrong, switched back...
yeah the w/mo is easier

General Mcmillin

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2005

Brotherhood of Mercs

W/Mo

That build is quite nice but its kinda slow for my tastes...i have my own build that kills them about 5 times faster as a W/Mo and you can use a sword hammer axe whatever...but its a very good build though i like the creativity My IGN is General Mcmillin if youd like to see it

Defendpeace Necros

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Three Fame [Run]

W/

well i am trying now with my monk but it isnt the same anymore, cast a prot spirit, get into some griffons = dead, because -5 health every time a bunch of them hits you = you dead because of 55 health, and with my warrior, i cant take them all at the same time, and i think it affects drops beacause i noticed that the drops are better if you kill a large group at the same time ! maybe i am doing something wrong, i cast mending and live vicarously , the aggro a lot of them and cast healing hands then vigorous spirit, after that bonnetis and cyclone and i wait for hands again and than healing breeze then zealots fire or balthazars aura, but only with glad armor! but if i get hit many times i die. Do you have some good advice for monk or war.

tiffin

tiffin

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2005

united kingdom

W/Mo

okay guys basically after watching the vid, which was very cool i have to say, im not bragging here at all only helping...i can say i can take on and kill everything including the monk boss at the same time with health never dropping below 60% in 1 minute 90. Although i use i different setup. All i did was replace healing breeze with symbol of rath, changed my shield to a tactics which allowed me to put strength down and smiting right up. Healing breeze you suffer large amounts of dmg whilst it's casting which is why you saw his health drop right down at the beginning. My setup is:

Weapons:War axe 6-28,Dmg+15% while enchanted,3/1 vamparic,enchantments last 20% longer REQ 8, the shield is Req 8 tactics, recieve dmg -2 while enchanted.
Armour: Dragons armour with superior vigor & superior absorbtion

My smiting is on 11 meaning i do 36 fire dmg with symbol of wrath.All griffins (except bosses) die within about 30-40 seconds perhaps less.

The run....First of all i start alot differently to he does in the vid, i put both enchantments on in the beginning leaving me with 10 energy,All i do is gather everything in site including monk boss, when they start to mob you, throw on healing hands then bonettis defence, then symbol of wrath followed by live vicariuosly and zealots, then start the axe regen. by this time the rest of the griffins should be dead leaving the bosses.All id say is use healing breeze first to cover the mobbing you recieve during casting. I have expermented and i can truely say, you take more dmg while casting so healing breeze can actually be a killer. Hope this helped. (i have my video on the way but stashfile servers are down

Guil

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

Team Flash

W/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by A2597
guil, mind sharing a W/N setup for that? I LOVE my W/N...tried W/M...just felt wrong, switched back...
Basically i have at the mo
Curses 11
Swordmanship 9
Tactics 13

Mark of Pain
Spiteful Spirit (elite skill)
Insidious Parasite
Sheild Stance
Diciplined Stance
Healing Signet
Bonnetis Defence
Deadly Riposte

Notice there are no sword attacks....Deadly Riposte can be replaced by Cyclone axe but i cant get hold of a good enough axe yet to use it...i think it might make a little diff to the rate at which the enimies fall. Deadly Riposte does do its job mind and adds bleeding to them..so which ever you choose, they are both powerful.

Lastly it takes a little prac to do it well and i am managing about 8 griffons at one time with a few minotours...anything more i find to difficult

Happy Farming

Cobalt

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/W

I wondered why people always want to go hunt griffions.

I have soloed them a lot in the desert and outside Rankor only ever got one gold item drop and that was sub par, I did make couple K in wings and get fair amount of gold however. Because my drops were never that good it did not make since why so many wanted to hunt them. I guess some of you have much better luck than I.

tiffin

tiffin

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2005

united kingdom

W/Mo

the way gold drops work are the fact that guild wars reviews how many gold weapons you have over your account, the less you have in storage/iventory the more they will drop.

nailz

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by tiffin
the way gold drops work are the fact that guild wars reviews how many gold weapons you have over your account, the less you have in storage/iventory the more they will drop.

I don't know where you got that information but it's inaccurate