Griffon Run

elitey

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2005

W/Mo

Nice video, almost had the same build as you but dont have healing hands yet so i went for tactics instead, cant handle that kind of mobs as well but 6 griffin at one time is still doable.

Lynnrose

Lynnrose

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

SoF Victrix [SoF]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Phades
That area is buggy on many different levels, if you pay close attention only 2 of the griffons per group (usually only 2 griffons not named) will attack at once.

Monk friend of mine does that, just at a slightly slower pace, i do it with a pure warrior build. My hp jump back and forth more than his, due to the different style, but the lack of casters makes it easier. Most of my damage is generated via gladiator's defense though.

The original poster's method makes it look stylish compared to mine though, where there is alot of shifting between offense and defense in mine.
What's your friend's monk build? I'm interested in trying to take on more than three min's or two grif's at a time.

Phades

Phades

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

I know the minotaurs and griffons did some damage to him when they hit. Primarially he used a smiting setup with balthazar's aura and shield of judgement for damage. If i recall correctly he also used the skill that extends the enchantments of monk spells. Beyond that, i dont remeber as its been awhile, but i think he had to bring more protection orientated skills in order not to get damaged too quickly, compared against his normal farming setup. I typically wasnt with him most of the time when he went farming or id have a better idea of his complete build. He had to make comprimises when dealing with the minotaurs and griffons compared to the undead he normally killed though.

As far as his ability was to take on groups was less than in the video and would usually top out at around 4-5 minotaurs. Griffons on the other hand tend to only attack in pairs per group. Their behavior in multiple groups is a little different though. By your account, id imagine that you have something close to what he was running. If i can get a hold of him, ill post again with the complete build. Its been a little over a week since i chatted with him over TS. Different time zones and different games can complicate things.

Miss Bailing

Miss Bailing

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

A cubicle.

Free Collective [FC]

W/Mo

I tried this build swapping Mending with Balthazar's Aura and tried by the griffons outside of Destiny's Gorge. It's taken the Griffons down a lot faster and I try to round up about two groups of them to take on at once; at most about 6-7 griffons.

kleps

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

W/Mo

that was damn impressive!

Magick Catastroph

Magick Catastroph

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

I get tired of swapping out skills all the time so i made a build that seems to be balanced.

I can farm the griffons (not as many as the video of course =P ) and do normal stuff like Uw and Fissure.

Here are my attributes.

W/Mo
Healing: 10
Axe Mastery: 12 + 1 Rune
Tactics: 8 + 1 rune + 1 helm

Skills:

Bonetti's Defense
Cyclone Axe
Gladiator's Defence
Executioner's Strike
Penetrating Blow (This skill is a wild card, I suppose anything useful can go here)
Mend Ailment
Vigorous Spirit
Live Vicariously

I played around with so many build trying to find a balanced build that can farm and play regularly. I even tried things like W/N and a W/E with meteor shower.. dont ask..

Drakharran Zealot

Drakharran Zealot

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Kanada, eh?

Wow, I've been using a similar (two skills different) build for quite some time and I've never been able to get more than 9 griffons on me at once. I'm going to try your way now, besides, I've perfected my Beacon's-Droknar running so I need something else to do now.

Magick Catastroph

Magick Catastroph

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

I was able to take on two of the griffon groups (about 8 i assume) without loosing much health at all. The key is going into battle with gladiators defense while bonetti's charges.
Then when you use bonnetti's, dont use any skill until bonetti's is almost gone, then cyclone axe to refill it immediately. Repeat that until gladiators defense recharges, which is usually the same time Vigorous Sprirt runs out, so you can pop both of those on at the same time and deal your damage. Then repeat the whole thing over again Works pretty well.

Edit:
Actually this does work on a large number of them, although without mending its hard to round up alot of them. I ran through and got about 3 groups of them along with about 3 groups of minotaurs and my helath stayed above 50% constantly, cyclone axe fills it right up.

salja Wachi

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

Chicago

the Bleeding Edge

N/Mo

very well done

ManadartheHealer

ManadartheHealer

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Awaiting GW2

W/

That was pretty good

Magick Catastroph

Magick Catastroph

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Decided to post some pics of my build in action. I didnt gather all of them because it would be cutting it close without mending. My health stayed pretty high, everytime cyclone axe recharged I let her rip comletely filling my health. Then popping on bonetti's right after.

Moofoo Pork

Moofoo Pork

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Brothers Of The Illuminati

Kalgareth that was amazing, nice job- makes me feel like my ranger is useless other than owning in uw...... Maybe i'll start a W/Mo....

Btw, i guess there is absolutely no way for rangers to farm... but if some genius has come up with a way, please tell!

Lasareth

Lasareth

Aquarius

Join Date: Jun 2005

Somewhere between Boardwalk and Park Place

Quote:
Originally Posted by Magick Catastroph
Decided to post some pics of my build in action. I didnt gather all of them because it would be cutting it close without mending. My health stayed pretty high, everytime cyclone axe recharged I let her rip comletely filling my health. Then popping on bonetti's right after.
Haha, I love that row of +10s.

Nice job ^^)b

squakMix

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Magick Catastroph
Decided to post some pics of my build in action. I didnt gather all of them because it would be cutting it close without mending. My health stayed pretty high, everytime cyclone axe recharged I let her rip comletely filling my health. Then popping on bonetti's right after.

WOW, That upgrade ALONE on that bow would sell for 50k+

Galatea

Galatea

Core Guru

Join Date: Feb 2005

The Drifters [DRFT]

E/Me

hah - just seeing all those numbers fly across the screen is impressive and satisfying enough, even if they dropped nothing ha ha.

Tactical-Dillusions

Tactical-Dillusions

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Grimsby, UK

R/

I find these videos absolutely wondeful. I am glad that people still can find a way to have fun, despite ArenaNet's attempts to destroy the fun, albeit indirectly.
My ranger can do that with griffons too! (But only two at a time )

Hats off to ya!!

Slimcea

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Another semi-secret spot gone.. Oh well I've been farming that area for close to a week or so, and the drops aren't really that good though.

You'll end up with collectors items most of the time (i.e. griffin wings/minotaur horns), and weirdly enough for me, over a week I'd say at least 30% of my item drops were shields (non-maxed though). Only got 2 decent gold items though.

Props to the topic-starter though... that's some skill rounding up and surviving that assault

FlipJack109

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jun 2005

Durance of Fate

W/Mo

Made about 60k last night from farming griffons. So I am happy about that.

Van the Warrior

Van the Warrior

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

In Yak's Bend like always...

W/

14 shields all gold from doing this...lol

toastgodsupreme

toastgodsupreme

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

United States

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Van the Warrior
14 shields all gold from doing this...lol
Whoa, screenshots of loot?

Van the Warrior

Van the Warrior

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

In Yak's Bend like always...

W/

sure ill show ya the mule

k i put up pics of my ranger mule tahts only the stuff i got off griffons

Skylancer16

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

N/A

E/Me

That run is amazing, now im thinking about going to axe. Could you tell me what the stats were on the axe and shield you used?

Ba Ne

Ba Ne

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Michigan

W/Mo

Kalgareth: thank you very much for posting this thread.

I tried it tonight and it works beautifully. In just a few hours I made back all of the money I spent on an Axe (4500g) + almost a plat + a bag and a half full of items of all colors, shapes and sizes.

Not to mention it was the most fun I've had playing this game in two weeks at least.

Thanks again.

Zack Nafien

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Can someone please indulge where that griffon area is? i was farming griffon's outside of destiny's gorge and all i got was wings damn it..wings!!! what do i do with wings???

heh

Thanks

FlipJack109

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jun 2005

Durance of Fate

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ba Ne
Not to mention it was the most fun I've had playing this game in two weeks at least.

Thanks again.
My thoughts exactly.

Asplode

Asplode

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Chicago, IL

Rebel Rising [rawr]

My Opinions:
1) I don't think you needed zealot's fire to be casted more than once, it's a 60 second duration, after all.
2) I think shielding hands would have helped a TON there, 12 seconds of, pretty much, invincibility.
3) When dealing with a massive amount of mobs like that, healing breeze isn't going to do dip enough to be worthy of your skill slot. I'd replace it with shielding hands.
4) Retribution should have replaced with vigorous spirit, IMO
5) Knight's Armor would have helped a ton as well, more base reduction to pile on top of your massive armor.
6) 46 and 2 is my favorite Tool song

-edit-
I can't count.

-edit2-

I just did such a run with my E/Me, and got 2 rare swords, one of which has a 29hp swordpommel ^_______^

-edit3-

5 rares so far, 29 hp axegrip included. -_-; Well so much for Elona, this is my new thing.

Saya

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2005

I've been switching Live Vicariously with Endure Pain for a few runs, as I never managed to get it up in time.
However, the problem is the short time after Healing Hands runs out, where healing breeze won't be able to provide enough healing power for all the dmg you're receiving, since no mobs (at least with my dmg output) bit the dust yet.

Endure Pain was working ok, but only up to a certain mob size and even then it was still more luck than anything else.

So, I got back to Live Vicariously and am now triggering it right before Healing Hands is running out for the first time. Bonnetti's provides enough energy to make up for the lack of energy regeneration, plus every cyclone hit heals for enough points to cover a hell of a large group.
That skill set is perfect for my build - just adding a superior absorption and a sup vigor would make it rock even more

Anyway,
as Ba Ne already pointed out, this is a hell lot of fun, seeing yourself surounded by numerous mobs and still kicking ass - unless the skill timing goes bad

Racthoh

Racthoh

Did I hear 7 heroes?

Join Date: May 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Magick Catastroph
Decided to post some pics of my build in action. I didnt gather all of them because it would be cutting it close without mending. My health stayed pretty high, everytime cyclone axe recharged I let her rip comletely filling my health. Then popping on bonetti's right after.
Nice work as well. I noticed that you used a different elite, gladiators, so I guess the build can differ from the original which is cool.

I wonder if it would be possible to use a sword and hundred blades to do the run? The only thing I fear is the slower recharge time of hundred blades.

Skylancer16

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

N/A

E/Me

If anyone has stated the location of this area and i over looked it im sorry, but where is this place? I would really like to know.

Moofoo Pork

Moofoo Pork

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Brothers Of The Illuminati

i believe it is Augury Rock- the west exit....

Zack Nafien

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

I don't know if you have horse shoes in your pants or what...but when i do that farm i get nothing but wings..and it really sucks!! but on the other hand...it is fun

dbgtboy

dbgtboy

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

irl

i quit playing

same thing with me, i get maybe 1 rare every 2-3 runs, and a purple or 2 almost every run.

chin

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2005

Sdrawkcab Eht

E/Mo

as you asked, i tried doing this with a monk.. but an ele/monk
I can sort of do this with my E/Mo.. its just very difficult with the rockshots disrupting Mist Form..

I use

Balth Spirit
Retribution
Zealots Fire
Divine Boon
Mist Form {E}
Balth Aura
Symbol of Wrath
Extra Slot..

Attribs:
I think**
12 Water
12 Smiting
the rest doesnt matter I guess :/

I've done it a few times without the rockshots in my way, but theres always 1-2 stupid griffons who stay back and dont take damage and then when I kill all of the other griffons.. my mist form runs out and i get owned
Disadvantage: I MUST kill all griffons in 18 seconds or less because of mist form..

what I tried to do while failing was

Balth Spirit and Retribution at beginning
run run run.. get them to follow
Mist form
Zealots
Balth Aura
Symbol
Spam divine boon until they all die

then the 1-2 griffons gang on me when the others die and i get owned. . .
the bad thing is.. i cant use healing hands because they hit me for like 30-60.. so that would make it like 10-40 damage anyway :/

any suggestions ?

free4all

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

I've perfected this run using my elementalist...can do it consistantly every time
Thanks for the idea Kalgareth!

Slimcea

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

The good thing about griffin wings (and other Crystal Desert collector items) is that they sell for 25gp at the vendor. Not much seemingly, but accumulate them over time, and you can get some decent cash (albeit not in the range of tens of thousands though).

Tactical-Dillusions

Tactical-Dillusions

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Grimsby, UK

R/

I tried doing the griffon run with my monk...i only managed to kill one of them, lol.
Funny thing was, it was a gold, non-max flatbow that dropped. Chances of that? Haha.

free4all

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

The only thing I dislike is after I kill about 10 griffons in the first run, every run after, only 2/10 griffons drop something in subsequent runs...and it's usually just an iridescent wing or gold. Is this 'anti-farm' mechanism kicking in this fast?

knives

knives

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

USA

Grenths Rejects [GR]

Me/

I found this fun to do, and I mainly just got some odd blue items here and there. No gold or purple.

But, how would this build work with replacing shielding hands wiht shield of judgement? It would be funny to watch atleast.

free4all

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Well...shield of judgement would do more damage, but you'd also take more damage. I got 2 golds the first time I did this, but now, nothing. (Only tried it 3 times too :/)

Edit:now that I think about it, its probably because of the 5+ tries it took me to perfect it. Zoning in and out, etc.

Dazzler

Dazzler

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by chin
as you asked, i tried doing this with a monk.. but an ele/monk
I can sort of do this with my E/Mo.. its just very difficult with the rockshots disrupting Mist Form..

I use

Balth Spirit
Retribution
Zealots Fire
Divine Boon
Mist Form {E}
Balth Aura
Symbol of Wrath
Extra Slot..

Attribs:
I think**
12 Water
12 Smiting
the rest doesnt matter I guess :/

I've done it a few times without the rockshots in my way, but theres always 1-2 stupid griffons who stay back and dont take damage and then when I kill all of the other griffons.. my mist form runs out and i get owned
Disadvantage: I MUST kill all griffons in 18 seconds or less because of mist form..

what I tried to do while failing was

Balth Spirit and Retribution at beginning
run run run.. get them to follow
Mist form
Zealots
Balth Aura
Symbol
Spam divine boon until they all die

then the 1-2 griffons gang on me when the others die and i get owned. . .
the bad thing is.. i cant use healing hands because they hit me for like 30-60.. so that would make it like 10-40 damage anyway :/

any suggestions ?
I am doing this with my E/Mo, with a completely different method of doing damage than you:

Lava Font
Inferno
Firestorm
Eruption
Mistform
Mending
Balthazar's Spirit
Watchful Spirit

Attributes:
I start mission with
Energy Storage-8 (minor rune)
Healing-8
Water-15 (12 + sup rune)
Fire-11 (maybe 12?) (sup rune + hat)

I cast Mending, Watchful Spirit, Balthazar's for 5 HP regen.
I then lower Healing to 5 and raise Energy Storage to 10.

I use a Staff of Enchanting +18%
With 15 Water, Mistform lasts 20 seconds. With the staff, it lasts 23-24 seconds.

I can't quite gather everyone up b/c once I get too many griffons chasing me, they start to do more dmg than my health regen can compensate for. So I end up with all the minotaurs and 8-12 griffons. And I've learned where not to go if I don't want a rockshot screwing things up for me. Once I gather them up, here is my strategy:

Mistform
<switch to fire staff for quicker casting and recharge>
Lava font
Firestorm
Lava font
Inferno
Eruption - With Earth 0 this is only doing like 5dmg/sec, but after 5 secs it causes Blindness on everyone in the area.
Lava font
Inferno
<Mistform runs about about now, but so does Eruption, blinding everyone so they can't hit me>
Lava font
<repeat until Mistform is ready>
Mistform <blindness ends around now so I usually get Mistform up again right before I get nailed>
more dmg spells til they all die.

Usually there are still 1-2 left after Mistform runs out again and my E is too low to cast Eruption again so I just duke it out until Mistform recharges. Repeat until they are all dead.

However, I am never able to kill the boss griffon. He just heals too fast for me to kill him and by the time it is just him and me, I just cannot earn E fast enough to dish the dmg out to him. I usually don't even bother aggro'ing him as sometimes he will kill me since I can't kill him.