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Racthoh

Did I hear 7 heroes?

Join Date: May 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)

12 Jul 2005 at 13:15 - 121

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryun

Has anyone found a Mo/W build that works? If so, I'd greatly appreciate seeing it posted here in cyber-print.

I saw a video posted done by a mo/w. I'll try to find the link.

Edit: Here is the link to the thread:
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=31465

I Am A Sasquatch

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

CT

Lost Order

W/R

12 Jul 2005 at 15:48 - 122

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kalgareth

http://www.stashfile.com/uploads/gwgriffon_run.wmv

I am glad you guys enjoyed the video.

The exact skill setup is as psycore said...
1- Bonnetti's
2- Cyclone Axe
3- Vigorous Spirit
4- Zealot's Fire
5- Healing Breeze
6- Healing Hands
7- Live Vicariously
8- Mending

Skill setup... I am not 100% sure on this but I believe this is a fair approximation. Will have to check when I get home.
9 Healing
8 Smiting
12 Strength
12 Axe Mastery
4 Tactics

If you add up all those points it isnt possible, unless you used 3 superior runes on strentgth, ,axe mastery, and tactics, otherwise you wouldnt have enough points. i just switched my build to this and i have 8 in healing, 5 in smiting 12 in axe 12 in strength, and 4 in tactics and i have exactly 0 points to spend

Dazzler

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

E/Me

12 Jul 2005 at 15:53 - 123

It should be possible with 2 sup runes and a hat.

My build is
15 Fire (11 + Sup Rune + Hat)
15 Water (12 + Sup Rune)
6 (7?) Energy (minor rune)

If I dropped my 2 primaries down to 12, that would generate a huge number of attribute points for the rest.

Phades

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

12 Jul 2005 at 18:36 - 124

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dazzler

Okay, as promised here are my results.

I had trepidations with Armor of Mist, so I used Armor of Frost. First attempt was a disaster but then I learned from my mistake and now it works like a champ. I round up the minotaurs, then cast Armor of Frost then gather up 16 or so Griffons and with the Armor on, I take much less damage pulling and while casting Mist Form. In the past, when I had this many creatures, I had trouble surviving after Mist Form ended, even with them blinded. But now I just put on Armor of Frost and wait for mist form to recharge and I have no problems living now.

Thanks for the suggestion.

The only thing preventing me from rounding them all up is that I can't kill the bosses and so I am better off not getting them in my net. But I got some guild-mates to come help me kill them and they don't seem to drop any better than the non-bosses so I see I am not missing anything by skipping them.

I found that if i couldnt kill a boss monster in under 2 minutes it was easier to just feed it to the sand wurms and go back to my regular schedual of killing. Only tricky part is getting the worm to pop up under what is chasing you to cause the chasing monster to get damged and start fighting the wurm. As a caster you have ranged attacks, so if you were really slick about it, you could probably net the kill xp from the boss monster stealing it from the wurm. This is also a handy way to get rid of other undesirables like sand golems and the beetles.

There is a sand wurm near the southern zone exit near the griffs and there is another one just south of the oasis past the minotaur valley on the eastern zone edge.

Happy hunting

I Am A Sasquatch

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

CT

Lost Order

W/R

12 Jul 2005 at 19:34 - 125

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dazzler

It should be possible with 2 sup runes and a hat.

My build is
15 Fire (11 + Sup Rune + Hat)
15 Water (12 + Sup Rune)
6 (7?) Energy (minor rune)

If I dropped my 2 primaries down to 12, that would generate a huge number of attribute points for the rest.

then my question is...how can he have so much health if he had 2 superior runes? 75+75=-150 health. if you watched the video he was nearing 600 health

Lynnrose

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

SoF Victrix [SoF]

12 Jul 2005 at 19:50 - 126

Quote:

Originally Posted by I Am A Sasquatch

then my question is...how can he have so much health if he had 2 superior runes? 75+75=-150 health. if you watched the video he was nearing 600 health

Because you're talking about two separate builds. The W/x has a ton of health, the E/x cuts his health down through the superior runes.

Wings of Illusion

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

Wings

Illusion

12 Jul 2005 at 22:54 - 127

Ive seen a runner that did this is less than 3 minutes. Still not a bad run though.

Dazzler

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

E/Me

13 Jul 2005 at 02:34 - 128

Yeah I don't know how he has 600HP with all that. I am not familiar with W items though. Maybe he has a shield or something with +HP.

Wings: it takes me approximately 3.5 minutes from start to finish for this run. And it is a fun filled last 40 seconds

Andy of Glacieria

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

pD-Paladins of the Dark

W/Mo

13 Jul 2005 at 09:34 - 129

Right, I'm gonna be short this time. I liked the movie, went to kill some Talus trolls. I have a question about that video that may seem silly- what band and song is that

Drausius

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

Ancient Combat Experts

Mo/W

13 Jul 2005 at 13:15 - 130

Just wanted to thank the poster for showing me a new farming area.

Took my Mo/W build there, decimated the bastards. Funny how a good build holds up to new challenges.

Back to mastering Single UW/FOW farming runs.

Racthoh

Did I hear 7 heroes?

Join Date: May 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)

13 Jul 2005 at 13:47 - 131

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drausius

Back to mastering Single UW/FOW farming runs.

You and me both.

Ednemak

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

13 Jul 2005 at 19:03 - 132

i cant find healing hands, me and my party went capping in perdition rock, and the only boss that didnt spawn was the one that gives healing hands.

Brull Bowbeater

Did they get rid of him?

Cause this is the 4th time

Ba Ne

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Michigan

W/Mo

13 Jul 2005 at 19:16 - 133

There are two bosses in Perdition Rock that carry Healing Hands:

Rull Browbeater and Dwayna's Cursed

Rull Browbeater has always spawned in the same spot for me: after exiting the outpost take the left path up the hill, turn left at the top of the hill, head for the Mursaat Tower and on the right will be a small alcove with Rull roaming around in it.

Ednemak

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

13 Jul 2005 at 19:39 - 134

Dwayna's cursed doesnt give healing hands, they give some other skill.

Martyr i think it was, and Rull, ive never seen him.

Sentinel

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Somerset, NJ

aB

13 Jul 2005 at 20:26 - 135

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ednemak

i cant find healing hands, me and my party went capping in perdition rock, and the only boss that didnt spawn was the one that gives healing hands.

Brull Bowbeater

Did they get rid of him?

Cause this is the 4th time

He is a random spawn. On my warrior it took several times in and out for him to show up. On my Monk he was there the first time. The other day I was helping a friend to capture it and we finally saw him the 6th time out of the ember camp.
Keep on coming in and out and you will see him.

Sent.-

Sunyi

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Budapest

Mo/W

13 Jul 2005 at 20:26 - 136

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ednemak

i cant find healing hands, me and my party went capping in perdition rock, and the only boss that didnt spawn was the one that gives healing hands.

Brull Bowbeater

Did they get rid of him?

Cause this is the 4th time

Tried to get HH yyesterday. I went out with henchies, turned right, went along the coast clearing the golems. Past 2 spots where named spawns, I arrived at the 3rd spot, near the second. Brull was there, I was happy until I realized I didn't get SoC with me... You imagine... After a few re-tries I captured Martyr and Amity but I never saw Brull again.

Plommon

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Sweden

Shiverpeaks Wolves

N/Mo

13 Jul 2005 at 21:38 - 137

can you post what attributes and runes you have used?

Rubch One

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

13 Jul 2005 at 22:44 - 138

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ollj

Yes, funny video.

Needless to say I know ways to farm 10 times more effective, Yes, its also grifons, no, theres no warrior involded BUT it needs 2 chars working together (still 10 times as fast after sharing by 2).
Funny thing about this farming was, I could (and needed to) put off my armor to make it work, because i had too many superiors on it.
Hey what should i say, it was mesmer runes.

Farming is boring once you know how to gain 45k experience in 30 minutes "LEGALLY" in the underworld, with just a good team.

Hater?

Ednemak

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

13 Jul 2005 at 23:40 - 139

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sentinel

He is a random spawn. On my warrior it took several times in and out for him to show up. On my Monk he was there the first time. The other day I was helping a friend to capture it and we finally saw him the 6th time out of the ember camp.
Keep on coming in and out and you will see him.

Sent.-

I have treid countless times, maybe 30 and still i have not found him.

I found a better skill though, that basically does the same thing but is 100x better. You find it after the long bridge in thunderhead mission. Tried it 15 times and different bosses spawned in his spot.

Dazzler

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

E/Me

14 Jul 2005 at 00:47 - 140

So...did the griffon run get nerfed or can we continue to farm?

Wings of Illusion

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

Wings

Illusion

14 Jul 2005 at 00:54 - 141

Im hard to satisfy so i really didnt like that quality.

Racthoh

Did I hear 7 heroes?

Join Date: May 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)

14 Jul 2005 at 01:13 - 142

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ollj

Farming is boring once you know how to gain 45k experience in 30 minutes "LEGALLY" in the underworld, with just a good team.

Nah, I'm still gitty over 60k experience in 30 minutes with my one man army. The perks of every drop being mine will always appeal to me.

I Am A Sasquatch

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

CT

Lost Order

W/R

14 Jul 2005 at 01:59 - 143

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dazzler

So...did the griffon run get nerfed or can we continue to farm?

i think it has gotten nerfed, cause i only get a rare every 1 out of 3 runs

free4all

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

14 Jul 2005 at 02:01 - 144

Yeah, it's been nerfed.

Chen_93

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2005

14 Jul 2005 at 02:04 - 145

As a Wa/Mo I've run this pretty easily without healing hands. Really all you need is Vigorous Spirit, Live Vicariously, Mending, Bonnetti's Defense and Cyclone Axe.

Cast Mending and wait until you have at least 15 energy. Then put up Live Vicariously. You should have 5 energy left. Now gather everything to ya and when you have them all there hit cyclone axe and bonnetti's defense immediately. This should bring your energy back up to full. When cyclone axe is recharged, throw up vigorous spirit and hit cyclone axe again. Re-cast Vigorous Spirit as needed and repeat until they're all dead. This way is pretty straight forward and needs no hard to find skills.

Personally I use Gladiator's Defense as well which makes the thing easier. Throw up Gladiators defense and immediately throw up vigorous spirit after that. Then spam Cyclone/Bonnetti's. The nice thing is that right as gladiators is recharged it'll be time to re-cast Vigorous Spirit. That still leaves 2 slots open (I have blessed signet in one since I dont like waiting for energy at the start). I dont find I need these slots though.

Stats:
Healing Prayers 9
Strength 8 + 1
Axe 12+1+3
Tactics 5+1

Droknars Armor with the appropriate runes for the stats, Major Vigor and Major Absobtion.
Collectors Axe with +15% while enchanted, shocking and +6 armor vs physical.
Tower Shield 16 def -2 Dmg received while enchanted.

Edit:
It didnt seem nerfed to me. My first run I got 1 Gold, 2 Purple and a couple of blues. Second run still got 1 gold, 1 purple, 1 blue. Its not the best drops but along with the whites it gives an easy 1.5k per run without taking into account selling of the good items (I may be lucky but whenever I seem to get a gold or purple its almost always max damage).

jon__

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

Kuh Five

R/E

14 Jul 2005 at 02:13 - 146

For the people asking, the band is Tool and the song is Forty Six and Two

Dazzler

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

E/Me

14 Jul 2005 at 02:21 - 147

Quote:

Originally Posted by I Am A Sasquatch

i think it has gotten nerfed, cause i only get a rare every 1 out of 3 runs

Hunh. My typical haul was not much better than that traditionally. I am just happy they left it possible. I was dreading logging in and finding about 200 more rockshots spread through the area or a couple of worms

It is a fun run and it is worth loads of XP and even without the rare (which I only got every 2-3 runs anyway) it still generates alot of income.

Racthoh

Did I hear 7 heroes?

Join Date: May 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)

14 Jul 2005 at 03:24 - 148

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dazzler

Hunh. My typical haul was not much better than that traditionally. I am just happy they left it possible. I was dreading logging in and finding about 200 more rockshots spread through the area or a couple of worms

It is a fun run and it is worth loads of XP and even without the rare (which I only got every 2-3 runs anyway) it still generates alot of income.

Same, it could've been because I was doing these runs A LOT as of late (About 1/3 of my exp has come from this area). Sometimes I'd get 2 rares a run, along with some blues and purples, other times it was just gold and collectors. Still, the haul is always good. The gold alone is well over 500 and selling what you get averages out to over a platinum a run for me. 3000+ exp, 1 platinum in 5 minutes (not even counting how much you get off the rares)? Yeah, worth it.

That's also good to hear it hasn't been infested with wurms and such. Seeing the numbers spread across the screen will never bore me.

Edge Martinez

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

NC

DKL

14 Jul 2005 at 03:27 - 149

Thank you so much Kalgareth! For the video and the strategy.

I switched from Mo/Me to Mo/W and only bought Bonnetti's Defense and Cyclone Axe. I don't have Healing Hands, or the armor you do, so I improvised and I can handle that run, but I have to do it a piece at a time.

Anyhow, the skills I use:
Mending
Live Vicariously
Retribution
Aura of Faith
Vigorous Spirit
Healing Breeze
Bonetti's Defense
Cyclone Axe

I can handle major mobs through Kryta, handle big mobs in Maguuma, and can handle the groups in the desert and some groups past that. Once again, thanks for the idea man. I can finally put 'rez plz!' behind me now!

UberRusty

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

amsterdam, where male prostitution is legal

[GGG] Gay Guild Gals

W/R

14 Jul 2005 at 03:34 - 150

You could be doing a hell of a lot more damage while still surviving the same.

TaTeR ToT

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2005

Light Of The Phoenix

N/Me

14 Jul 2005 at 15:15 - 151

Thanks alot mate for sharing your strats

Lynnrose

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

SoF Victrix [SoF]

14 Jul 2005 at 16:09 - 152

Quote:

Originally Posted by UberRusty

You could be doing a hell of a lot more damage while still surviving the same.

To whom are you referring? If it's the Mo/W build, I'd appreciate your thoughts on how to increase the damage. Perhaps bumping up smite and throwing balt's aura, zealot's fire, or something similar in there?

Dumachum

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

na

R/E

14 Jul 2005 at 16:14 - 153

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...chum/gw027.jpg

A show of hands from anyone who thinks this is "nerfed"? Anyone?

Evan montegarde

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

14 Jul 2005 at 16:17 - 154

It's not nerfed apparantly, but it's still unbalanced that a W/Mo can earn that much with little effort while I'm left in the dust.

Dumachum

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

na

R/E

14 Jul 2005 at 16:27 - 155

It's not THAT good of a place anyway. I haven't gotten a big bucks 20k+ item here in days nor have I found a whole lot of salable quality upgrades like high ratio vamp or sundering stuff. Most of the weapons are vs. hexed and you get a TON of useless purple and gold shields. And it still takes like 5 minutes a run and if for some reason the mobs get lucky you're out 5 minutes.

Dazzler

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

E/Me

14 Jul 2005 at 16:31 - 156

I don't know about other classes, but E/Mo's can do it almost as well. It is not "easy" though. It requires good timing of the skills and significant effort to shake off pursuit of the rockshots so they don't fubar you and also a little luck as sometimes it all just does not go as planned and my corpse is left rotting in the dry sun.

Edit: It takes me just over 3 minutes from leaving the Rock to re-entering the Rock. And I can do quite a few runs before my backpack is full, forcing me to salvage or sell off the goods. If I *do* get killed, it is usually after I have taken out alot of griffons so I have to trudge back out there to collect it, costing me another 3 minutes or so.

Racthoh

Did I hear 7 heroes?

Join Date: May 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)

14 Jul 2005 at 19:15 - 157

Maybe I have good luck because my first run today was two purples and two blues, along with a silver dye. Second run, a purple and two blues.

All I was getting before, still more than a platinum after selling.

Edit: My max damage rare firey dragon sword thinks otherwise.

XeNoGeArZ

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

14 Jul 2005 at 20:28 - 158

Yes we've all gotten nice items - no need to showcase them. No one likes a bragger.

Lady Dazzler and everyone else selling minotaur horns and griffon wings for outrageous prices, don't be so greedy. I know money is tight at the moment, but that is pretty absurd pricing. Stay around 50g or I will advertise a lower price to undercut you. And yes you can easily switch districts and continue to sell, but if I see an outrageous price in my current dist, well you know what I will do.

And dont send me a whisper then log off GW (-_-)

The undead Mesmer

Delphian Scribe

Join Date: May 2005

Holland

No guild ;_;

N/Me

14 Jul 2005 at 21:01 - 159

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racthoh

Maybe I have good luck because my first run today was two purples and two blues, along with a silver dye. Second run, a purple and two blues.

All I was getting before, still more than a platinum after selling.

Edit: My max damage rare firey dragon sword thinks otherwise.

I feel so useless now after seeing that picture i never found anny decent weapons and whenever a gold weapon dropped it whas so bad that i just trew it trough the window if you knw what i mean.

really if i could find that in 1 day i would be so happy i kissed my little brother.

Squallox

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

14 Jul 2005 at 21:10 - 160

Is this run possible without the use of runes? Im tried running the same sort of build but i was getting killed before i got them down beow 3/4 health.