How to make big money

I agree

Actually, its not cus a trader reset. People buying minotaur horns in Augury rock take it to the trader, get some piece of i believe monk armor, then expert salvage to linen. They profit by selling to trader, which brings the prices to the rock bottom that they are now.

Please read what I wrote again -
1. I said, "use expert salvage for most everything". Some items like Orr Emblems will always give you cloth regardless of how you salvage them. I deliberately left out an exhaustive list of items that are not worth salvaging because it isn't hard to figure out yourself.
2. That being said - an expert salvage will cost 16gold per salvage instead of 4gold for normal salvage - If you yield a couple of steel or linen (only possible with expert salvage) you will have made up more than the difference in price. Again - the people who are willing to try this know what produces rare crafting materials so I won't describe them here.
3. Making money from raw materials requires that you learn the price fluctuations of various merchants. That was mentioned in my first post. If you're selling cloth for 3gold each (30 for 10) then you're doing it all wrong. If you watch the merchant carefully you can sell 10 cloth for 270+. But the price of wood, for example, barely changes so I don't collect wood (unless I want to craft charcoal, etc).

The many players who read the original post carefully understood the subtext and made money. But there are also many folks who continue to miss the major points and don't really get it. All I have to say is, if you don't believe me just don't use my method -> go win HoH or spend your time haggling in LA dist 1 to make your first million.

*Note: the trade updates have made this method somewhat trickier. It still works but you have to relearn the merchant trends and the price fluctuations if you want to get the most out of it. i.e. always keep your eye out for materials that fluctuate widely in price - then you'll know when prices "peak."

HoH gives gold?

I followed Xue Li Yang's tips after it came out. And made a buttload. Thanks a lot, man.

edit: HOH gives you celestial sigils and rare items, but its only a chance that you specifically get it. And you have to win HOH to get the items.

Ahh, didn't know that - so that's why everyone is buying up minotaur horns

I ref'd to the trader up date as it was only after that I noticed the constant 200g offer price (compared with almost constant 1200g price to buy from the trader)

I do agree with the OP about monitoring the traders - going back to the parchment example, I spotted the materials trader only offered me 200g for 10, but the rare trader offered 80-100g each - it did mean I had to click "get quote" and "sell" 50 times but its a small inconvenience for ~1500g profit in about 60 seconds

So now, if I sell to either of the materials traders, always check them both and do the maths.

BUT, I personally wouldn't do it to the extent of constantly monitoring the prices as that would probably take just as much time as "WTS......". IMHO I'd prefer to cash in every now and then on salvage + crafted items and simply sell all the rest to the trader. I'd rather be out there playing the game, but, I guess everyone plays and enjoys the game differently.

BTW, everyone aware of the id kit "trick"? If not, very simply, id every item you get before you sell it as the price the trader will offer goes up. It can sometimes be only 5-10g but I've seen the price a trader offered double on numerous occassions when I id'd a purple item.

Rich

I should clarify something. When I "monitor" prices - I don't linger in town until it changes. I just check the price once or twice between quests or farming runs. Sometimes it takes days or weeks before prices peak - so I end up with a ton of material before it's time to sell. And when that happens I'd make a killing.

Dear Xue Yi Liang,

Just wondering, since you practicly started this whole farming thing, what do you feel is the best combonation for farming and what skills?

Please and thanks

From,
That Guy With The Hair

Lol. Surfer, there are plenty of solo build topics....

and Xue Li Yang didnt start farming. There's farming in practically every MMO, and every RPG.

Nor did he mention farming; his strategy was based on salvaging and doing nothing extraordinary to get massive amounts of gold.

Farming-

I've tried all different kinds of builds, from ranger/mes to a monk/ranger, and I'm finding that you can solo with ANY kind of proffession mix. It's just the amount of time that you put in, and how much you are willing to learn about it to go further. Where you go is also an important factor. But remember the biggest factor is really just luck. You have bad days, you have good days. Patience. That also leads back to trading...

I do like Xue's part in explaining how if having a good item, and tried just about 1 minute trying to sell it, move on. You can always come back another day and find another buyer.

Location and patience. *shrugs* Works out for me.

Yes you can farm with any kind of profession mix, Alone, but the question was "What is the best profession mix?" - I'll bet dollars to donuts that a W/Mo can farm an area much quicker than a Me/R*

(*That's not being Mesmerphobic by the way. Just stating that if there was a bet on the two, who I would put my money on)

hahaha....you knew what i meant

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I realised you said 'most' but that still implies that you wouldnt bother taking a normal salvage at all!..

I originally felt this was wrong because of the amount of items, like decay orr emblems, will only ever give you the same, regardless of the kit.

That being said, after your post I've kept the expert with me, (or superior) and it seems that there arnt as many items that didnt produce extra as I originally thought, so I'm sold!.. expert all the way

The tip about keeping materials on your character and not storage was a great one too!.. its alot easyer to buy and sell materials without having to goto storage first.

What do you do about the materials which never increase in price?.. like bone, shells and granite slabs.. recently I've not seen them change at all!

do you just sell them and keep the space, or hang on to them in hope that someone may WTB one day, or something changes in the game to give those materials a higher demand.

As you point out, those prices hardly fluctuate at all. In addition, they're not worth much.
I either sell immediately or I just dispose of them for the space - I never keep them.

In fact, if I happen to find one mergoyle skull or horn bow I won't even bother picking it up or salvaging it since I'm only going to get bones.

#1 in the original post should have said "play a monk primary". Seriously, it seems like 90% of the people who claim to be wealthy show under their avatar "Profession: Mo/X"

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You didnt even bother to change Lady Blue's name out...

And why did you post it in here?

i dont farm cuz i duhno where to and what skill to use bla bla bla i got like 200 hours. But i do run people Yaks to Sanctum for like 5.5k i think usually beacon to sanctum for 5k, and any other locations inbetween for 500 like bergen to toa. i usually make 5k-25k an hour

1.) Farming up raw materials can be done by any class
2.) While primary monks are the most popular soloists - there are quite viable W/Mo and E/Mo solo farmers, too.
Just see what happens when someone makes the statement, "Monks are the best solo farmers." You'll get flamed by all the W/Mo and E/Mo soloists showing how they can do UW solo or whatever ....

Dang I still see it kinda hard, but are you sure that slavaging salvage armour gives better cash than selling the armour?, or should I just salvage the highly ones?

Farming up common raw materials isn't the goldmine it once was - ever since the merchant price fluctuations got ner... ,I mean, fixed.
You can still make a steady income but the real money now is in the rare crafting materials.... that's all I'm gonna say.

That is true, but don't diss the bones for instance like you did in an earlier post. I sold off a ton of them the other day for 80gp per 10, just from salvaging with normal salvage kit the horn bows and other bone yielding items. It was a question of time vs cost. It was faster and cheaper to salvage for bones in the short term for a big profit. Rare materials on the other hand take a bit longer, but the payoff is greater in the end. So it really depends on if you are in a position where you have to play fast and dirty or can wait it out for the prices to jump at the rare trader.

hmm - I'll have to reconsider the bones ... thx for the tip.

It's not that I've given up on raw materials altogether - it still pays the bills - but they're just not the cash cow they once were... Raw materials will always be more the steady income than windfall profits

Indeed....before the new patch, my e/mo could farm the mino's and griffons outside of augury like none other....good collectors item drops, plus alot of rare weapons as well. It's harder now that they nerfed ether renewal and aura, but it's still posssible

I agree too, I have a E/Mo that used to be really awesome at soloing until ANet went and decided to go and look at these fourms and piss everyone off by nerfing everything just for the hell of it...Point is monks are defently not the only soloers

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By the way, does anyone know a good combonation on which Skills and Attributes i should use to run with my W/Mo?

I just remembered of something thats I needed to stress. You know how you all say, "Farming takes time, I garrentee you won't see progress in a couple of days." and, "Sometimes it takes days before i sell to the trader." Well thats exactly the problem for the people that are starting out. Most people when they start with farming have almost absolutly no money (like me) and can't even afford the salavge kits. So by the time we're done selling all this crap thats only worth salvaging to buy the salavage kits, we dont have anything to salavage. Also since it takes a while before you sell then after that salvage kit runs out this whole process starts all over again.

I just thought someone should speak up about that.

The trick is to sell pretty-much everything until you get to Yak's Bend. After then, you can try salvaging more often.

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Heh, good old farming. I've got a 1.6 mil xp monk farmer and sittin on
about 500k at the moment, so here's a couple more tips on the subject.

A. As said, materials are king. If it's not gold, salvage it. You can go to
Droknars and make a killing.

B. If it's gold armor, don't ID it. Don't salvage it either. Just sell them as
is in places like Deldrimoor War Camp, Augry, and the like. Charge around 4-5
k apice for them, and you'll do quite alright. You might miss out on that Sup
Vigor or Absorptio, but it's better to not get one than do drown in worthless
Ranger or Necro runes.

C. If it's gold, max, and 8 req; don't ID it unless you absolutely want
the item for yourself and don't want to sell it. Gold max dmg/8 storms
can go for upwards of 100k, so think before you ID it. The pipe dream
of getting that 15>50 or 30 hp component is always nicer to keep a dream
than to ID it and find only mediocre mods.

D. Again, just solo. As in you only. The risk is greater, but the reward
far more delicious.

To reiterate, it takes time to amass the amounts upward of 100k, but
it's worth it to some people. I just happen to be one of them.

Well...What would you say if i was a LvL 7 at Droks aready? Lol...

(Don't laugh at me because I got someone to run me there, it was one of those days where you happened to have a lot of money and was really bored, so i decided to go to Droks. Lol )

kudos to you. i find it mind boggling that i dont do any of the stuff you do, yet i'm not bored, you're not bored, and people post how boring the and lacking the game is. simply amazing.

BTW try farming the etins between beetletun and hot springs (east of beetletun).

Could someone please answer these questions:

1. What are the best (in your personal opinion) Attributes and Skills for the monk smite build (Mo/E)?

2. Whats the best place to farm with the smite build?

Thanks



BTW: How about this: we all post up that the places in the Droks run are the best places to farm, then ANet wil nerf it and we can make a whole bunch of money doing the Drok run because the'll take out all the monsters Ha ha ha...Just kidding
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Erk...Scratch that, I just remembered that nerfing is make the monsters stronger, not making them go away... And I thought that idea was so good lol

erm.. clicked Enter before the post was finished. [Sorry]

Hmmm.

I guess Im doing a lot of things wrong.
I myself have farmed "actively" for only like a month or so..
I dont have the patience to do it for more than two hours straigh.. probably becaus Im unhappy with what I get out of it.
I have hesitated making a smiting monk becaus of the nerf on Balthazars Aura, and don't really know/ been bothered to look up other possible builds.

What I do for farming is I go with my War/Monk (sword) to kill Desert Griffons west of Augury Rock.
Even though I am secondary monk, I am a pure warrior.

My skills are as follows:

Sever Artery
Gash
Power Attack
Final Thrust
Sprint
"Watch Your Self!"
Gladiators Defence
Healing Signet

My Attributes are 10 in strenght, 14 in swords, 11 in tactics.

My sword is (awful) :
Fiery Dragonsword (hahahah)
15-22 (req 8)
+12% While over 50%HP
[no upgrades]


For my Shiled I use my European Pre-Order -item; Chimeric Prism
16 armor (req 9 strenght)
energy +5

Armor (Just got it ^_^):
15k Ascalons Helmet
rest all 15k Gladiators set.
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What I do is, I go into the zone, and kill.. everything.. except I tend to avoid scarabs becaus I dont like distracted Healing Signets. I only take on one group of either Minotaurs of Griffons at a time, becaus I cannot take any more.
One run takes me about 10 minutes.. (slow?) and by a run I make ~1k - 1.9k

I am still looking for a better sword, so any good gold sword drops I keep.
Till this point I havent gotten lucky with other gold/purple items, so I havent tried selling them. Most of em cost around 150-350ish gold after identifying and I just sell them to merchants or salvage if there are good upgrades. (Don't really know their prices, so havent tried selling.. currently got a +4ene staff grapping and a +29hp axe grip)

The other stuff I just identify.. it usually almost doubles the price on merchants.. like for example I had a half moon of 14-27 dmg, plain white.. costed 38 gold.. Identified and went up to 94.. almost triple..
Some weapons I salvage for iron and steel.


So yeh.. thats what I do. Kill the Griffons and possible Minotaur patrols that catch you.
Identify the whites and sell.
~1k - 1.9k in 10 mins.
Now I don't know if thats any good, but sure is boring :/

Though I noticed that it only took me around four days of "farming" to wear 60k on me in form of armor + ofcourse the materials. Im happy.. my first full 15k equipment ^_^;

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I have noticed that prices of materials are higher if sold to material trades instead of regular merchants, but I havent looked for peak- moments and my maths is too bad to realise that fact that I can make a nice profit.

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Im going to have to try this.. but.. it mite be a while before I get to play GW again. My computer was just taken away becaus my parents blamed gaming for my bad school succes. (currently sititng on my bros comp)
Wonder when I'll have it back.

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Good luck to everyone who engages on farming or developing new technicues to do it /thumbsup



~Cheers
-Arthur



oh.. PS: Pelias m8, shush I don't like ur attitude :/ (LeftAlone.. ur ex-guild mate.. eh.. I think you know me anyway.. without saying that.)

I Repeat:

Please and thanks

by far best place to farm is outside the Eastern Frontier with the level 24 and 29 charr... But down side. you got to finish the game to get the titain quests to initiate them... or join groups farming from the ruins of sumeria

A great big tip: PICK UP EVERYTHING!

Everyday I casually play for 1 hour or so and just do random quests+mission I make 2k+.
It doesn't matter if I'm actively looking for it, I make it reguardless.

It's really the *spending* of your money that makes you poor or doesn't permit you to *top* a certain amount of money.

It doesn't matter what proffession you are and what armor requires what component to make because one way or another you can always craft-salvage-trade other items in order to gain them.

As someone graciously said: Instead of trying to sell an uber item you could be out there salvaging stuff and making actual money! Only offer to sell to those who posts WTB.

Offering to sell to those who are looking is never a bad idea you're more likely to do an actual *trade* instead of talking and haggling.

Very good advice, I sell gold unid'd armor all the time for 5k a pop and at one point I even had a customer base of regulars that wanted to buy any that I could get (Before SF update and nerfing craziness). I have almost 250K gold. I've never found any "Godly" gold weapons...my coolest drop was probably a 6-16 Sickle that I hear is supposed to be really rare, I haven't sold that yet. Also remember to move a round, farming the same spot over and over again will kill your drops, have more than one place to farm so when drops start to go you move on and give the monsters a break to "recharge"

I'll try using expert salvaging more often from on now then - I usually only use those if there's an item with a rune or a upgrade.

Is there a list of items that always produce basic materials regardless if u use expert or not?

I think its only certain collectors items. it would require alot of testing.. and probably a new thread.

Best (popular) Spots: Sorrows* Furnace, UW and FoW of course.