I was greatly upset to find myself bored with GW after the first month. I had beaten the game and been to every city so basically all thats left to do is pvp which all in all isnt very fun.
When it boils down to it, the game lacks supremacy, and what I mean is, there's not many ways that you can be that much better than the next guy. This game is all about your teams build and strategically having a full proof plan.
Problem is, Youre char cant really kick ass more than the next. It's all balanced itself into boredom. If the devs could simply throw in some d2 elements that made it so fun, then we'd be ok. Elements such as PK's and more item reliability. Because currently you cant really have a good item without having to sacrifice something else such as energy degen. In d2, You can put things into your weapon to make the weapon it self better, not the character stats. Beside the grind being tedious and the lvl cap being rediculously low, The pvp and weapon system are the only really negative points about guild wars. I can only hope that they plan on re-vamping and tweaking some of these things for the X-pack.
Thanks for reading and feel free to comment
Gw's fun factor killed off quickly?
Nizzim
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Nizzim
I didnt say mimic d2 exactly. Intergration my friend
Izzy Izumi
Why not go play a full-fledged MMO? It'll be lots more "item" and "level" oriented in those.
Edit: And as far as making that ultimate weapon yourself issue, that *can* be done. There's only one small problem with it. Not everyone can do this. That's why Guild Wars is so cool. The game naturally (or with the help of the devs) balances itself out. It's not how god your item is. It's how good *you* are, as a player, essentially.
Being able to kick ass just because your weapon has 300+ regen per hit and the other guy doesn't...that feels empty, to a lot of the people who enjoy the CORPG aspect that Guild Wars *defines*.
Edit: And as far as making that ultimate weapon yourself issue, that *can* be done. There's only one small problem with it. Not everyone can do this. That's why Guild Wars is so cool. The game naturally (or with the help of the devs) balances itself out. It's not how god your item is. It's how good *you* are, as a player, essentially.
Being able to kick ass just because your weapon has 300+ regen per hit and the other guy doesn't...that feels empty, to a lot of the people who enjoy the CORPG aspect that Guild Wars *defines*.
stumpy
I'm sorry but did you fail to read the box or the website before buying the game?
Everything you disagree with about Guildwars ... IS in fact why the rest of us play. My suggestion is for you to go back to D2 if you are unhappy. Remember, GW is in its birth ... D2 is years old.
sad to see posts like this but your looking for the wrong thing here ... everyone else thrives on this game because of the balannced boredom you spoke of. Guess we are all missing something here.
Everything you disagree with about Guildwars ... IS in fact why the rest of us play. My suggestion is for you to go back to D2 if you are unhappy. Remember, GW is in its birth ... D2 is years old.
sad to see posts like this but your looking for the wrong thing here ... everyone else thrives on this game because of the balannced boredom you spoke of. Guess we are all missing something here.
Silmor
This is not the game for you.
You want power through character as opposed to power through skills. "My stick is bigger than your stick, so I win". "I was levelling while you were earning a living at work, so I'm better than you". ArenaNet actively published their intent to try and do away with this kind of mentality, it was pretty much the main selling point of their game.
You probably bought it hoping this would be another Diablo II, but it's not. It shares some elements, it doesn't share others, you happen to enjoy those elements it doesn't share. Hence you are bored, but that is just because you didn't pay enough attention to which game you were buying.
You want power through character as opposed to power through skills. "My stick is bigger than your stick, so I win". "I was levelling while you were earning a living at work, so I'm better than you". ArenaNet actively published their intent to try and do away with this kind of mentality, it was pretty much the main selling point of their game.
You probably bought it hoping this would be another Diablo II, but it's not. It shares some elements, it doesn't share others, you happen to enjoy those elements it doesn't share. Hence you are bored, but that is just because you didn't pay enough attention to which game you were buying.
Nizzim
I've heard piles of complaints concerning the same things. And I dont play d2, never did. I've tried it and my friend is a fiend for it so thats how i know.
I just said it's lost its fun, and it has. pvp can be fun at times, but after you do everything pvp is all thats left, thats not fair
I just said it's lost its fun, and it has. pvp can be fun at times, but after you do everything pvp is all thats left, thats not fair
Izzy Izumi
Not really. Just turn off your GW game, then wait for the expansions. Or, hell, wait for quest updates by checking in on Guildwars.com every now and then. I was rather surprised they added three more quests, just as part of the last update.
ManadartheHealer
Instituting ganking will not make the game more fun
Dyeeo
I have to admit. GW is starting to bore me. What made Diablo 2 fun was the variety of items in it. I have pretty much done what I could in PvE (except FoW and UW which I cant do because my chars were not made for that. Im making a ranger just for that.) I know you will say "do pvp" but for pvp to be fun, you have to win. And to win, in guildwars, you need to have a different build every few weeks or so. And frankly, I cant unlock that many skills. Missions get boring after the tenth time and the items all are the same which makes for a pretty boring PvE experience. So that throws out making another character to unlock through PvE. So what about unlocking through PvP? Pshh you can forget about that. If you dont have any of the current "in" builds then your pretty much screwed.
HOWEVER, the game has given me a lot of entertainement and it has been the second most played game in my lifetime (First is DII, third is Starcraft.) I guess its just time to move on.
HOWEVER, the game has given me a lot of entertainement and it has been the second most played game in my lifetime (First is DII, third is Starcraft.) I guess its just time to move on.
The Ages
Feel this might not be the best game for you, With a PvP System that is Intergrated with the PvE System there is alot of balance this would ruin.
Only way this could happen is if
a) PvE and PvP where severed from eachother
b) PvE only eqp where added that can not be eqped in the arena.
Only way this could happen is if
a) PvE and PvP where severed from eachother
b) PvE only eqp where added that can not be eqped in the arena.
Nizzim
umm exuse you all...youre getting my message crossed. I love the game to death, I've played countless hours of it and worked pretty hard on all four characters. I for one didnt like diablo 2, but im saying the reason kids have fun with it is because you can just get out and kill and really show your skill.
This game takes a lot of skill as well, but not the same kind.
You have no place to say anything about me concerning this game, seeing as how i go to an internet cafe with my guild memeber to play 11 hours straight once a week
This game takes a lot of skill as well, but not the same kind.
You have no place to say anything about me concerning this game, seeing as how i go to an internet cafe with my guild memeber to play 11 hours straight once a week
zdude255
Sometimes people act as if theres never going to be expansions. Theres gonna be a free one soon, and a pay one next year I think.
And don't even start about having to pay for expansions, the game as it is was SO WORTH my $50.
And don't even start about having to pay for expansions, the game as it is was SO WORTH my $50.
kuramaroze
Dude, you CAN put things in your weapons to make them better. I don't believe that you could beat the game and not know this.
theclam
GW is a great, fun game that has amazing mechanics. However, you're right that it does suffer from a lack of content at times. A more diverse item selection would help a lot.
Nizzim
read my post kuramaroze. The upgrades mostly affect your character, not the weapon itself, the most that will happen is 20% more damage 10% of the time
Aniewiel
I like the idea of PvE only items. That way, they couldn't be used in the PvP part thereby maintaining the balance for the GvG/PvP action. That's a nice balance but probably a scripting nightmare. 
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Aracos79
I hit a similar roadblock about a week ago. I had beat the game with my first character. I had all towns and outposts on my map, and I was feeling rather bored. Then I went on a run with a guildmate through Mineral Springs. What a blast... just exploring, seeing all the devs put into the game, all the little touches. Now I'm working on exploring the whole world map. All you really need to do is change your perspective on the game... adjust your character, come up with personal goals. There is SO much to do in this game it's really kinda crazy. Use your imagination. 
PieXags
Yeah, sorry OP, but if you'd done ANY research on the game at all before you bought it you'd know that what you said the game needs less of...is exactly what they strived for when making the game. It's supposed to be skill and tactics more than equipment, they did that intentionally.
We need to show that post to all those who say that gear makes an insane difference.
We need to show that post to all those who say that gear makes an insane difference.
Dumachum
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I believe I made a thread suggesting this about a week ago and not a single damn person replied to it.
Nizzim
thing is, there should be real goals you can accomplish after you beat it.
I know theres an expansion coming out, but how long will the buzz last? Will there be new char builds? New item variety? No one knows, so until then we should have goals and stuff to occupy us until then.
I mean, the only thing we could do was farm, and Anet snatched that as well. I'm not hating on the game, I love the effort put into it. I play it religiously. I just hope for better days
I know theres an expansion coming out, but how long will the buzz last? Will there be new char builds? New item variety? No one knows, so until then we should have goals and stuff to occupy us until then.
I mean, the only thing we could do was farm, and Anet snatched that as well. I'm not hating on the game, I love the effort put into it. I play it religiously. I just hope for better days
Ishamael Sedai
you can always come up with new challenges such as trying to solo 28 level bosses, trying to solo 28 level mursaat bosses, trying to kill huge groups of enemies at once.
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Yeah, sorry OP, but if you'd done ANY research on the game at all before you bought it you'd know that what you said the game needs less of...is exactly what they strived for when making the game. It's supposed to be skill and tactics more than equipment, they did that intentionally.
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I knew exactly what i was getting into, I dont have a problem with it, you guys seem to be getting confused. I said the fun factor has dimmed down, and if you've played as much as I have, you'd know. Now if youre gonna say, they designed it for caual players, well heres what I say. If youre designing a game for a certain demographic, be prepared to have something for the minority that purchase the game, because it shouldnt be so cut and dry without having a back bone for support
Ishamael Sedai
plus what one other guy is working on getting the whole world map. i've probably put in 600 hours or more on one character and found two new zones the other day that i spent hours in.
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you can always come up with new challenges such as trying to solo 28 level bosses, trying to solo 28 level mursaat bosses, trying to kill huge groups of enemies at once.
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EcPercy
Well I have quit GW. I haven't logged into the game in weeks. Mainly because you get nothing (e.g. gold or items) for killing things. There is no incentive to play when the price of goods is way too high. I wanted to try and get the 15k armor, but where am I going to get 250k?(it probably costs more than this considering the amount of rare items that are required) I will not resort to buying gold on ebay.
Anyways, anet, thanks for taking away all of the good stuff that I liked about the game. I would expect to get more than 10gp for killing a big group of monsters. I know for sure that I will not be getting any of the expansions and I will probably sell my account / game cd on the internet.
Anyways, anet, thanks for taking away all of the good stuff that I liked about the game. I would expect to get more than 10gp for killing a big group of monsters. I know for sure that I will not be getting any of the expansions and I will probably sell my account / game cd on the internet.
Sir Skullcrasher
not to offend anyone but geez if your bored of this game than quit playing it so damn much! i mean after you beat the game once and got everything, of course your get bored. So just relax and play the game at a slower pace instead of rushing through than come to the forum and post "OMG im bored, screw A-net and GW"!!
Or if you really don't like GW, play something else instead of coming to the forum and vent your anger and get flame on like a burgers on a 4th of july party.
<snip! Keep it constructive or else I'll steal your whole post next time .. Aria>
Or if you really don't like GW, play something else instead of coming to the forum and vent your anger and get flame on like a burgers on a 4th of july party.
<snip! Keep it constructive or else I'll steal your whole post next time
.. Aria>
Aniewiel
aB- ALL games become tedious and boring after awhile. That's why one SHOULD leave them and perhaps come back to them in the future. No one's holding a gun to their heads forcing them to play. Of course they can complain but after the first 1000 times, it gets tiresome.
If it's so boring, leave. Come back later when it might seem like a whole new experience.
If it's so boring, leave. Come back later when it might seem like a whole new experience.
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but that doesnt benefit you at all, aside from the offchance of getting a skill once in a while.
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nechronius
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aB- ALL games become tedious and boring after awhile. That's why one SHOULD leave them and perhaps come back to them in the future. No one's holding a gun to their heads forcing them to play. Of course they can complain but after the first 1000 times, it gets tiresome.
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So what's left for me?
Trying a completely different character class. Doing more UW/FoW runs until I beat them (hard to do, they are after all very difficult). Play more PvP (not too hot on this one, I think my days of competitive gaming are pretty much over).
And if all else fails, I load up a different game. Or forget games and do something away from games, like finish fixing the car that's in my garage.
Boredom is a state of mind. The game did not "become boring." The product did not suddenly change, it's the person who has suddenly changed. If the game bores you, leave it, temporarily or permanently.
shinseikaze
I dont see people complaining after you finish GTA San Andreas or any other game single player game
there's no monthly fees and you get FREE UPDATES so stop complaining
there's no monthly fees and you get FREE UPDATES so stop complaining
Icarium
Holy , its not as if Nizzim is saying anybody who like this game sucks or anything . . so settle down, quit flaming , its a game not your long dead mother , your intrested still . . , why is it bothering so many people?
Anyways i understand how he's feeling, this happens to almost every game i get into (not GW yet, but who knows). I used to enjoy beating every game i came across, but now . . .it seems as if i dont much care to. Odd . .My sugestion would be along the lines of a few others . . .you still think its a good game, it just dosent have anything new to offer that "grabs" you. So just leave it for awhile a day,a week,a month ,whatever and check it out later on.
See you around
Anyways i understand how he's feeling, this happens to almost every game i get into (not GW yet, but who knows). I used to enjoy beating every game i came across, but now . . .it seems as if i dont much care to. Odd . .My sugestion would be along the lines of a few others . . .you still think its a good game, it just dosent have anything new to offer that "grabs" you. So just leave it for awhile a day,a week,a month ,whatever and check it out later on.
See you around
Nizzim
thank you so much icarium
and heres what i do, I'll play GW for like 2 hours, i'll get bored, then I'll go watch Tv or play CS for a while. Then go back to GW.
and heres what i do, I'll play GW for like 2 hours, i'll get bored, then I'll go watch Tv or play CS for a while. Then go back to GW.
Icarium
Yea, it totaly helps if you have more than one game around that your into. I for the most part have around 4-5 games that ill play switch off from. Really helps to not smoke through one in 3 days and feel ripped off for $50 :P
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Yeah, sorry OP, but if you'd done ANY research on the game at all before you bought it you'd know that what you said the game needs less of...is exactly what they strived for when making the game. It's supposed to be skill and tactics more than equipment, they did that intentionally.
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Sorry if I'm being sarcastic, I'm playing this game slowly myself but I hate to say "I told you so" to the people who wanna rush through this game claiming that you gotta have the cool stuff right away to compete.... Let's face it, there's not much to this game, that's the way it was designed..you don't have to grind. Unfortunately this was intended for the casual gamer. For the hardcore MMO players, there's not much to do.
I think the best intentions it was supposed to be a game about skill, but since it's incredibly easy to pay someoneto be able to be equipped with the best that a level 20 can get . Which begs the question why play the game if you want to play with other people. With no crafting or tradeskills this game would get old quick at the pace most MMORPGs are played.
Silmor
Dax, the skill part assumes that you are max level and have the best armour and a large variety of skills at your disposal, then improve your character comprehension and playing style/skill to beat those challenges you couldn't beat before.
In a traditional MMORPG you'd go back to mass-murder more rats until you had enough cash to get better gear, and possibly a couple of levels on your character. In Guild Wars you have all the tools necessary to beat the challenge at your disposal, you just have to pick the right tools for the job, and learn to use them well.
In a traditional MMORPG you'd go back to mass-murder more rats until you had enough cash to get better gear, and possibly a couple of levels on your character. In Guild Wars you have all the tools necessary to beat the challenge at your disposal, you just have to pick the right tools for the job, and learn to use them well.
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Dax, the skill part assumes that you are max level and have the best armour and a large variety of skills at your disposal, then improve your character comprehension and playing style/skill to beat those challenges you couldn't beat before.
In a traditional MMORPG you'd go back to mass-murder more rats until you had enough cash to get better gear, and possibly a couple of levels on your character. In Guild Wars you have all the tools necessary to beat the challenge at your disposal, you just have to pick the right tools for the job, and learn to use them well. |
Look I'm not saying this game is not good... I'm just saying there are people who's entire gameplay experience is to spend lot's of hours on MMORPGs (as is with the case with most MMO's).... which this game tries not to do for the 'casual' gamer.
If you want the perfect example of this....how many people in the short time this game has been out for retail have reached level20 and a have multiple level 20 characters who are getting bored?
deathwearer
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I'm sorry but did you fail to read the box or the website before buying the game?
Everything you disagree with about Guildwars ... IS in fact why the rest of us play. My suggestion is for you to go back to D2 if you are unhappy. Remember, GW is in its birth ... D2 is years old. sad to see posts like this but your looking for the wrong thing here ... everyone else thrives on this game because of the balannced boredom you spoke of. Guess we are all missing something here. |
totaly agree on that. I play this game because it's not like D2 "itamz and lvl".
I play GW because of the PvP, the strategic and build aspect. It's all depend of your team build and your strategy. Finally a game where you can't be considered as "God"
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Yeah, sorry OP, but if you'd done ANY research on the game at all before you bought it you'd know that what you said the game needs less of...is exactly what they strived for when making the game. It's supposed to be skill and tactics more than equipment, they did that intentionally.
We need to show that post to all those who say that gear makes an insane difference. |