I changed over to Europe to play with some friends over in the UK and the difference is astonishing. There seem to be less annoying LFG spammers, a remarkable drop in district arguments, less beef flying around, and all in all everyone is nicer and more helpful. A few theories on why this is so: Europeans are naturally brought up less primal than *cough* a few other areas; how they barely ever have Favor turns the game less competitive for them, in effect the players are not as wired all the time, but Korea almost always has Favor, yet they're also very polite and civilized.
I can't really elaborate on the noticable difference between Euro servers and American servers without it seeming over-generalized, but the last straw was well drawn last night when a pompous player came up out of nowhere and undermined me and a friend in the Arena and dared to call Canada the land of ignorance.
In conclusion, if you want to escape the anguish of foolish playing and immature snobs running around feeling superior while throwing N00b blindly around, F12 > put in password > Edit Account > Change Territory > Europe.
I don't think I'll go back to American territory, and hopefully, if anyone follows in my wake, this server would get Favor more often.
Recently switched to European servers
Gaele
arnansnow
How many people were there in Europe Servers compared to American Servers? You just might be seeing less jerks because there are less people overall.
Or, all the jerks moved over to American Servers because they think Americans get Favor more, and most of them can't read Korean.
Or, all the jerks moved over to American Servers because they think Americans get Favor more, and most of them can't read Korean.
Narcissus
Thank you for such a great suggestion. I am trying that out at the very moment. Hopefully I will have the same positive experience you are having.
PS: That has to be THE cutest avatar ever.
PS: That has to be THE cutest avatar ever.
Gaele
Europe has just as many players as anywhere else, but it's separated in zones. England, France, Germany, Italy, and Spain. I'm exploring all those zones to stabilize my theory on the people there being alot nicer. So far, it damn well is.
Devts-Waver
I am an American, however I believe you when you say the Europe servers are better. Why? Becuase America has negleted the next generation, which is why we have brats like we do. Now, I'm sure Europe has it's problems too, but on this specific one, they aren't as bad. Even though it is a shame, that's what I believe to be true.
Drakron
Well I once blasted a bit of Canada in ToA ...
Principa Discordia
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Europe has just as many players as anywhere else, but it's separated in zones. England, France, Germany, Italy, and Spain. I'm exploring all those zones to stabilize my theory on the people there being alot nicer. So far, it damn well is.
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I'll agree though, I've been on the American servers a few times and I hate to generalise, but I love the community on the European servers. I don't even know why I switched, I'm not in America, but it didn't take me very long to switch back.
Europe for the win.
Edit: Oh, and for any non-Euro players wondering about how many people actually play on the Euro servers, there are usually 8-10 English-speaking districts in pretty much every city when I'm online.
EmperorTippy
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I am an American, however I believe you when you say the Europe servers are better. Why? Becuase America has negleted the next generation, which is why we have brats like we do. Now, I'm sure Europe has it's problems too, but on this specific one, they aren't as bad. Even though it is a shame, that's what I believe to be true.
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Gaele
Did I mention there is ALOT less bogus names beginning with Lord, ending in some cheesy last name like Deathblade or Blackheart or - you get my drift, and a huge drop in copywritten names. I tell you something, there should be a single guild for all Legolases.
john little
I know it's a generalisation, but I'm pretty sure that the average age of European MMO players is quite a bit higher, due in part to internet access but also marketing etc. (there isn't any). I found out about GW from a German friend on a 3d forum for example...
none
Eh, European players might be nicer, but hell, they (or should I say we?) are so much worse (skillwise) that it sometimes really hurts. I played several days on the American Realm, and I've seen many tactics and playing concepts there that ppl in Europe don't even dream of. Right now, about 2 weeks later, some of those tacticts start to appear in Europe as well, but I don't even want to think about how the game evolved in America in the meantime.
Unfortunately, I sometimes get awful lag while playing in America, so it's not practical if you want to be competitive in every aspect of the game.
Unfortunately, I sometimes get awful lag while playing in America, so it's not practical if you want to be competitive in every aspect of the game.
smitty-gw
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America has neglected every generation for the past 50 years and it has just been getting worse and worse. I swear rarely does a day go by when I don't hear some new reason for why I'm ashamed for america. As for europe being nicer they definatly are but all my friends are on the american servers so I can't switch as I still want to be able to do UW and FoW with them.
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Not a fair estimation of the US of A. All societies have generational problems. The sheer size of America and the over-exposure of every incident by our national media system makes us seem worse in every negative regard.
Are we the best, or morally perfect in the world political spectrum? Hell no. But this is still a damn good place to live. man it burns me to hear Americans slam America. This isn't Cuba. If you are upset or ashamed you know what you can do.
I expect scorn of the United States by the French. That's obvious. But internal scorn is tough to stomach. We have systems set in place to protest what you do not like in this country. Use them and quit bitching.
john little
One heck of a lot of consolidation needs to happen in Europe. There are far too many 3 man guilds running around, which while fine for PvE is problematic to say the least for Europe's development of their own PvP strategies. We also lost a lot of beta talent to the US servers (traitors).
Red Locust
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Did I mention there is ALOT less bogus names beginning with Lord, ending in some cheesy last name like Deathblade or Blackheart or - you get my drift, and a huge drop in copywritten names. I tell you something, there should be a single guild for all Legolases.
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Yes, we're not too big on creativity...
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I expect scorn of the United States by the French.
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I better keep back my thoughts about Freedom Fries here
EmperorTippy
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Not a fair estimation of the US of A. All societies have generational problems. The sheer size of America and the over-exposure of every incident by our national media system makes us seem worse in every negative regard.
Are we the best, or morally perfect in the world political spectrum? Hell no. But this is still a damn good place to live. man it burns me to hear Americans slam America. This isn't Cuba. If you are upset or ashamed you know what you can do. I expect scorn of the United States by the French. That's obvious. But internal scorn is tough to stomach. We have systems set in place to protest what you do not like in this country. Use them and quit bitching. |
I know that all societies have generational problems and that our media over-exposes most everything. I agree that this is a damm good place to live ATM but I disagree with how this country is progressing and if it continues this won't be that good of a country to lie in. As for having a system in place to use it generally doesn't work that well unless you have lots of financially backing.I also hear lots of reasons to be proud of america but for each one of those I here I hear 2 reasons to be ashamed of america.
Principa Discordia
I know you guys love to discuss your likes and dislikes about certain things, including your countries, but we all know how flammable such topics can be. Could we possibly keep it Guild Wars related? Pretty please?
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I know you guys love to discuss your likes and dislikes about certain things, including your countries, but we all know how flammable such topics can be. Could we possibly keep it Guild Wars related? Pretty please?
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EmperorTippy
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I know you guys love to discuss your likes and dislikes about certain things, including your countries, but we all know how flammable such topics can be. Could we possibly keep it Guild Wars related? Pretty please?
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Now I really did find the European Servers nicer along with the international districts. Being able to leave local chat on was a very refreshing change.
EDIT: Felt like responding without making another post.
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Just when it was about to get interesting. There's nothing like pointing out the bad things of your own country (it's the country you're supposed to know best, after all)
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Principa Discordia
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Just when it was about to get interesting. There's nothing like pointing out the bad things of your own country (it's the country you're supposed to know best, after all)
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bioxeed
I play on the american servers simply because that's where most of my friends play. however about 95% of the time i'm in the international zones these days.. It's always a shock to head back to an american zone of LA (and i turn off trade and local so very very quickly)
Ollj
european server more polite, are you kidding me?
theres less people and procentual far more idiots (still less in total).
I switched from europe mostly because it got screwed in finding ANY group in the higher areas (by language sectiuons and less players).
theres just more, and more skilled, and more adult !!!, people on the american server.
theres less people and procentual far more idiots (still less in total).
I switched from europe mostly because it got screwed in finding ANY group in the higher areas (by language sectiuons and less players).
theres just more, and more skilled, and more adult !!!, people on the american server.
Night Daftshadow
You know why these Europeans are more friendly than Americans they have a healthier diet. Just check out their Mediterranean Food Pyramid. Olive Oil is suppose to be good for you. It has its own section. Also, wine is included in the pyramid.
America is all about fast food hamburgers, pizza, hot dog, and etc. Then down it with beer or soda. Then straight to your computer and log on to GW. No wonder some Americans act like morons on GW. Bad diet = Unhappy = American, well some of them.
they have a healthier diet. Just check out their Mediterranean Food Pyramid. Olive Oil is suppose to be good for you. It has its own section. Also, wine is included in the pyramid.America is all about fast food hamburgers, pizza, hot dog, and etc. Then down it with beer or soda. Then straight to your computer and log on to GW. No wonder some Americans act like morons on GW. Bad diet = Unhappy = American, well some of them.
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Feel free to point out what you dislike about your country, as long as it's Guild Wars related.
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Aracos79
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It's always a shock to head back to an american zone of LA (and i turn off trade and local so very very quickly)
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Ultimate_Gaara
I cant stand the American servers, sometimes i feel like im the only nice person around everyone else is like "LFG YOU ****ERS, JOIN ME NOW!", but sometimes i find people who arnt total dorkwads... but seeing how i hardly ever play with people i normaly go in international districts and there only a few people there
last time i checked GW offers some weird "bork bork bork" language, seing how i cant stand some of the people, ive always thought about making a language switch... heh
last time i checked GW offers some weird "bork bork bork" language, seing how i cant stand some of the people, ive always thought about making a language switch... heh
Drakron
Well this because people that are known gamers long ago adapted to english, I rather play in english that in my mother language.
That happens to (almost) all countries, germans that are gamers will stick to english districts because of the higher population (many countries dont even have their language represented and stick to english) since there is really no language barrier and people that started gaming likely have not picked up english as natural as gamers do and so stick to their language districts.
That happens to (almost) all countries, germans that are gamers will stick to english districts because of the higher population (many countries dont even have their language represented and stick to english) since there is really no language barrier and people that started gaming likely have not picked up english as natural as gamers do and so stick to their language districts.
Gaele
Moving on to the talent in Europe, my movement to European servers was documented because I hoped to sway people into joining these servers, show them the ropes, and the revolution of Favor through 3 international districts would be that much more interesting.
PS- Europe currently has Favor ;P
PS- Europe currently has Favor ;P
Principa Discordia
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PS Europe currently has Favor ;P
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Drakron
Thats nothing, I noticed about 3 guilds able to gain favor (I only remenber Rus Corp) and even a european lead PUG that taken HoH.
We are gaining favor more often, I so hope it leads to be a tie of Korean and Europe holding favor so ArenaNet drops the damn thing.
We are gaining favor more often, I so hope it leads to be a tie of Korean and Europe holding favor so ArenaNet drops the damn thing.
salja Wachi
LMAO good for them i like to see it when they have it
salja Wachi
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Thats nothing, I noticed about 3 guilds able to gain favor (I only remenber Rus Corp) and even a european lead PUG that taken HoH.
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I hate to burst your bubble but america holds favor pretty much the same as Korea. you are probably in bed sleeping while we hod it though as it occurs in our eveining till late night.
PS like in my previous post i am glad when Europe get favor FoW and UW are great places to play and europe should not miss out on them
none
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a) I have to go to bed
b) I have to go to university
c) my computer has mysterious breakdowns and I get kicked out of the game every other minute, whereas it is running fine the next morning (when Europe of course doesn't have the favor anymore)
d) my internet connection has a hic-up
e) I have to learn something stupid, go to bed and go to university all at the same time.
Unlucky me
Narcissus
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I hate to burst your bubble but america holds favor pretty much the same as Korea. you are probably in bed sleeping while we hod it though as it occurs in our eveining till late night.
PS like in my previous post i am glad when Europe get favor FoW and UW are great places to play and europe should not miss out on them |
Numa Pompilius
It's getting worse in Europe too, though. I still haven't seen any bots, or heard any racial or sexist slurs, but tradespam is becoming a real problem, language is deteriorating, and we have no shortage of scammers & runners.
Anyway, I'm just curious - you guys who've been to servers on both side of the atlantic, have you noticed any difference in price-level?
Anyway, I'm just curious - you guys who've been to servers on both side of the atlantic, have you noticed any difference in price-level?
arnansnow
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It's getting worse in Europe too, though. I still haven't seen any bots, or heard any racial or sexist slurs, but tradespam is becoming a real problem, and language is deteriorating.
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There was a post about the prices a while ago. I can't find it though.
Alathys Tylderaan
Someone a bit further back in the thread noted the lack of skill on the EU servers atm.
It's damn true, i play in EU pugs less and less nowadays and stick to either my guild only or go to international to find some good people to play with. All the good EU players hang around there later on anyway
It's damn true, i play in EU pugs less and less nowadays and stick to either my guild only or go to international to find some good people to play with. All the good EU players hang around there later on anyway
hydrak
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I changed over to Europe to play with some friends over in the UK and the difference is astonishing. There seem to be less annoying LFG spammers, a remarkable drop in district arguments, less beef flying around, and all in all everyone is nicer and more helpful. A few theories on why this is so: Europeans are naturally brought up less primal than *cough* a few other areas; how they barely ever have Favor turns the game less competitive for them, in effect the players are not as wired all the time, but Korea almost always has Favor, yet they're also very polite and civilized.
I can't really elaborate on the noticable difference between Euro servers and American servers without it seeming over-generalized, but the last straw was well drawn last night when a pompous player came up out of nowhere and undermined me and a friend in the Arena and dared to call Canada the land of ignorance. In conclusion, if you want to escape the anguish of foolish playing and immature snobs running around feeling superior while throwing N00b blindly around, F12 > put in password > Edit Account > Change Territory > Europe. I don't think I'll go back to American territory, and hopefully, if anyone follows in my wake, this server would get Favor more often. |
I suggest you play during european high-traffic hours with the kiddies and report back here with your generalizations.
LathalDraugr
I don't know if the Europe server has a better atmosphere than the American one but it's still far from great at times. I've seen plenty of people who are abusive, rude or just annoying. As someone who rushes people from Beacon's Perch to Droknar's Forge the number of scammers and abusive players I run into is incredible. That said there are plenty of good people as well but I think you're being a bit optomistic about some of the people on the European server.
Gaele
Touchy touchy. The UK GMT is 0, and mine being -5. Now looking at my playing patterns, I'm awake until 7 to 8 in the morning, add 5 to those hours, and I go to bed at about 3pm for them. By my standards, those would be the hours kids would have already woken up and been ready or have been playing already for hours.
And report back I shall, tonight shall be my first night not just with one person and then we can further look at my "generalizations".
And report back I shall, tonight shall be my first night not just with one person and then we can further look at my "generalizations".