Kindle arrows - For 24 seconds, your arrows deal an additional 3-20 Fire damage.
Unless this skill is bugged, only arrows are affected.
The Dumbest Things You've Seen A Profession Do
arohk
Pillz_veritas
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Originally Posted by take_me
- Me/Mo with Axe and Shield in FoW
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As A general note:
Dont critisize people for trying something new.... If at release date if you asked anyone, Can A monk Tank? No one would have believed you... but guess what, it IS possible... new ideas can change the game so dont make fun of people that are just trying to make them.... ^_^
Sagius Truthbarron
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Originally Posted by Pillz_veritas
Dont critisize people for trying something new.... If at release date if you asked anyone, Can A monk Tank? No one would have believed you... but guess what, it IS possible... new ideas can change the game so dont make fun of people that are just trying to make them.... ^_^
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Kakumei
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Originally Posted by Pillz_veritas
Hmm... he could have been trying out a make-shift Illusionary Warrior Combo... I dont know if it would work to well But there are possibilites.... like a Smiting Combo, or a Self Heal combo, or protecting skills like Shield of regeneration and protective spirit.....
As A general note: Dont critisize people for trying something new.... If at release date if you asked anyone, Can A monk Tank? No one would have believed you... but guess what, it IS possible... new ideas can change the game so dont make fun of people that are just trying to make them.... ^_^ |
Silent Kitty
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Originally Posted by Pillz_veritas
As A general note: Dont critisize people for trying something new.... If at release date if you asked anyone, Can A monk Tank? No one would have believed you... but guess what, it IS possible... new ideas can change the game so dont make fun of people that are just trying to make them.... ^_^ |
Markaedw
The problem is, and I am guilty of this, your'e trying out a new build durring a mission, if it doesn't work you are hurting the team.
A lot of builds look good on paper but don't work in practice, such as this necro build.
For instance my dumbest moment, I was working curses with a 1.5 necrotic, using plague sending.
It was the Elona Reach I was grabbing the seed and trying to use plague sending to get rid of bleeding, NOT a good idea, I kept dieing, the team Kept dieing for trying to rescue me. They were a good group of guys, but I left because I was hurting them.
So now when I do a major build change I practice with henchies in the desert regions, the plus side I got A LOT of desert collector drops.
So if you want to do some of the wall build. Try it out first, make sure it works, please!!!
A lot of builds look good on paper but don't work in practice, such as this necro build.
For instance my dumbest moment, I was working curses with a 1.5 necrotic, using plague sending.
It was the Elona Reach I was grabbing the seed and trying to use plague sending to get rid of bleeding, NOT a good idea, I kept dieing, the team Kept dieing for trying to rescue me. They were a good group of guys, but I left because I was hurting them.
So now when I do a major build change I practice with henchies in the desert regions, the plus side I got A LOT of desert collector drops.
So if you want to do some of the wall build. Try it out first, make sure it works, please!!!
SisterMercy
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Originally Posted by Avarre
Mesmer PvE:
... Interrupting wrong skills. Using Backfire on warriors. ... Backfiring a target... then interrupting it... |
Re: interrupting the wrong skills, as lag is getting worse, this is happening more regularily. It's frustrating. I'm convinced that a D-shot Ranger is better at interrupting.
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Mesmer: Using Echo and then Archane Echo ... |
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Originally Posted by gou
... and as a necro the first time I saw bip was when I capped it.
on teamspeak... "wow this is cool I can give you guys LOADS of energy.. look" *thud* "ah! er hefty sacrifice on that one though!" |
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Originally Posted by Misc Merik
... Necro: Order necro, I dont mind the tainted necros there alright...
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Originally Posted by Matsumi
... Elementalist - "Dancing naked for tips" or other things that are sexual, makes me sick anymore...
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Originally Posted by Grais
... could be one time mistakes...
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Originally Posted by Grais
... When do you all get the time to sit and monitor the other players use of skills ?
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Originally Posted by Wretchman Drake
Seeing a Wammo with a Staff actually monk our team, and somehow he did pretty good. Word of Healing, Healing Breeze, Dwayna's Kiss... Heal Sig for himself, Watch Yourself... Quite sad.
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Pillz_veritas
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Originally Posted by Markaedw
The problem is, and I am guilty of this, your'e trying out a new build durring a mission, if it doesn't wotk you are hurting the team.
A lot of builds look good on paper but don't work in practice, such as this necro build. For instance my dumbest moment, I was working curses with a 1.5 necrotic, using plague sending. It was the Elona Reach I was grabbing the seed and trying to use plague sending to get rid of bleeding, NOT a good idea, I kept dieing, the team Kept dieing for trying to rescue me. They were a good group of guys, but I left because I was hurting them. So now when I do a major build change I practice with henchies in the desert regions, the plus side I got A LOT of desert collector drops. So if you want to do some of the wall build. Try it out first, make sure it works, please!!! |
Oh, I definatly Agree with trying it with henchies first, But some builds work better with teems then henchies... and when U started doing creative self-made builds the first 5 builds I made failed terribly and I didnt have the common sence to try with henchs
Avarre
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Originally Posted by SisterMercy
I've had the latter 2 happen simply from having switched my skillbar. Takes a few minutes to get reaccustomed to what I'm bringing
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Originally Posted by Pillz_veritas
Hmm... he could have been trying out a make-shift Illusionary Warrior Combo... I dont know if it would work to well But there are possibilites.... like a Smiting Combo, or a Self Heal combo, or protecting skills like Shield of regeneration and protective spirit.....
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And yes, I've run IW in FoW. And on Titan missions. It does not end well
Str0b0
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Originally Posted by SisterMercy
There's no reason those two should be on the same skillbar. Arcane Echo is simply a waste of energy. I get tired of people expecting me to use AC when going as an SS necro. AC (15E) + SS (15E) + SS (15E) = a big chunk of my energy reserve as a necro. As mesmers often run with 45 energy, doing something similar is a quick energy death. (Need I mention that half the people echoing SS incredibly use it on the same target?) These are usually the same teams that insist that I bring Spinal Shivers, only for me to find out later that no one is delivering cold damage anyway.
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Now on topic. The dumbest thing I've ever seen any profession do was a Warrior/Ranger trying to trap. It was funny because he was laying them down in the right order , that is he tried to lay dust trap first. Keep in mind this guy had no +energy items on him at all. He had a furious sword of fortitude and a crimson carapace shield and was wearing full ascalon. So He tries to lay dust trap over and over and over again and just couldn't seem to figure out why he couldn't. For those of you unfamiliar with it Dust Trap costs 25 energy to cast. A warrior's unmodified energy at level 20 is 20. He did this for about five minutes before deciding that someone was hacking him and he rage quit.
Pillz_veritas
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Originally Posted by Avarre
Ugh, I've used skills in the wrong places after playing a diff build or character... which is pathetic considering I've used the same PvE group build since october
It doesn't matter how insanely awesome you are, but IWing in FoW is asking for pain. IW can only be used at the front, and if a mesmer is at the front, you are xp. Knockdown + enchant shatters + high power ele damage = gg If you're playing supporter with IW, it's a waste of your elite as aggro should be held on the tank, and if it breaks, you kite, not tank! And yes, I've run IW in FoW. And on Titan missions. It does not end well |
Yanman.be
A warrior with aura of restoration, frenzy, conjure flame, and a wand.
Markaedw
A quick note about spinal shivers:
Spinal Shivers requires a cold damage weapon, not many people pack a cold damage weapon, my necro only uses cold damge death wand, when I am a MM, but then I am not using a skill set that puts enough point in curses to make shiver work or when I run a curse build I don't put enough points in death to make a death wand work.
Spinal Shivers requires a cold damage weapon, not many people pack a cold damage weapon, my necro only uses cold damge death wand, when I am a MM, but then I am not using a skill set that puts enough point in curses to make shiver work or when I run a curse build I don't put enough points in death to make a death wand work.
Evilsod
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Originally Posted by Silent Kitty
I meet tanking monks all the time. It would be nice if they tell at forehand, though
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....Must.....Restore.....Life.....
*runs upto the corpse of the frenzied wammo next to Jade Armour uberboss*
SisterMercy
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Originally Posted by Str0b0
... Snipped you down a little bit for succinctness' sake. I agree the majority of SS/Echo necros just don't think when they target. However there is one good reason to echo SS...
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Forbidden Angel
Monk:: Uses Frenzy and heal sig in GvG thinking hes the God-like monk you can get.
Mesmer:: Using Backfire on A W/E
Ranger:: using Concussion shot on a W/E
Warrior:: Over extending then uses frenzy while being spiked then uses heal sig. Then using Frenzy against SS to over spike everyone but the opposite team, doing -74-74-74-74-74-74-74-74-74-74-74-74-74-74-74-74-74-74-74-74-74-74-74-74-74-74-74 Per few seconds.
Necro:: Puts everything in healing and prot, and shouts "I'M A MONK DUMBA$$!"
Ele:: Uses blinding flash on a monk and a mesmer. Then uses mending on him/herself.
Mesmer:: Using Backfire on A W/E
Ranger:: using Concussion shot on a W/E
Warrior:: Over extending then uses frenzy while being spiked then uses heal sig. Then using Frenzy against SS to over spike everyone but the opposite team, doing -74-74-74-74-74-74-74-74-74-74-74-74-74-74-74-74-74-74-74-74-74-74-74-74-74-74-74 Per few seconds.
Necro:: Puts everything in healing and prot, and shouts "I'M A MONK DUMBA$$!"
Ele:: Uses blinding flash on a monk and a mesmer. Then uses mending on him/herself.
Murder In China
A Monk/Warrior using Rebirth + Frenzy during a heated PvP battle >.<
coldplay
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Originally Posted by Murder In China
A Monk/Warrior using Rebirth + Frenzy during a heated PvP battle >.<
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why dont you just say a whatever profession use alt+f4 for super attack cuz the opposite team shouting this trick in local channel
BTW, this could just happened in TA. one of my teammate keep saying non-sense like "alt+f4" joke in local channel and one of the other team member left game. I dont know what happened to him, he left after my teammate told alt+f4 joke anyway.
Str0b0
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Sorry, I didn't clarify my point. I can understand echoing SS, although I prefer not to do it (recharge is quick as it is). What I was comparing to, though, was a Me/N who tries to do this, with 45 energy and no Soul Reaping. You can't get it back as quickly with Inspiration skills.
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xuemin
this isn't really dumb, more like strange and a bit over-stretched attribute-wise..
but in RA today, was in a team where there was an e/mo that cast life bond, watchful spirit and mending on all the team members and then ether prodigy on herself when she could, and was using 15/-1 items i believe since she had about 118 energy and energy store helm. we did fine for a few rounds, but she didn't have any heals or attacks
but in RA today, was in a team where there was an e/mo that cast life bond, watchful spirit and mending on all the team members and then ether prodigy on herself when she could, and was using 15/-1 items i believe since she had about 118 energy and energy store helm. we did fine for a few rounds, but she didn't have any heals or attacks
Tigers Anger
A E/Mo who uses Blinding Flash on a monk. (I was tired and sleepy...)
RuPee
a guild group i picked up a w/r. we told him to tank while rangers and casters were doing thier thing, but all he brought was a bow and all ranger skills. i asked him why he didnt just be a ranger primary and he said he liked how a warrior has better armor
Bone Jangle
I've done a bunch of stupid things, myself... often due to either not paying attention (or just a lapse of intelligence 
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Yeah, that caster will be much better off blinded/weakened!
Diversion on a pet? Sounds good!
Nature's Renewal + curses build... genious! (This was more of a party problem)
(Upon entering a TA match with a guild-mate)
Me: Er... whoops... forgot to switch back from my Saccer build...
guild-mate: lol, I'm a rezmer
This is the kind of thing that I immediately regret.
)Yeah, that caster will be much better off blinded/weakened!
Diversion on a pet? Sounds good!
Nature's Renewal + curses build... genious! (This was more of a party problem)
(Upon entering a TA match with a guild-mate)
Me: Er... whoops... forgot to switch back from my Saccer build...
guild-mate: lol, I'm a rezmer
This is the kind of thing that I immediately regret.
Murder In China
Found the picture of a Monk/Warrior using Rebirth+Frenzy...
ExDeity
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Originally Posted by Thargor
This skill does not require a bow.
It is just as efective on a sword or axe. Same goes for apply poison. Don't be so fast to judge something as being stupid. It may come as a surprise but there may just be someone out there that knows a little something that you dont! |
Kindle ARROWS affects just ARROWS, my friend.
Please don't counter with
"Ignite Arrows made my fire sword swing t3h fire damage r0fl".
B Ephekt
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Originally Posted by SisterMercy
There's no reason those two should be on the same skillbar. Arcane Echo is simply a waste of energy. I get tired of people expecting me to use AC when going as an SS necro. AC (15E) + SS (15E) + SS (15E) = a big chunk of my energy reserve as a necro. As mesmers often run with 45 energy, doing something similar is a quick energy death.
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When playing my N/Me I have no trouble getting 5-6 SSes off on a large mob, and after things start dieing, energy is so plentiful I can usually cast 2-3 more. (Bonus points if you have a good battery necro with you; battery won't help a single SS-caster one bit though.) I run with 49 energy (Vilnar’s set), and a 79 energy -2 regen set as my secondary, a 40% recharge set (vilnar's and collector's truncheon) as my third and use Energy Tap as a supplement. Energy tap at 9 inspiration lets me get off another SS or two, depending if soul reaping is kicking in. I really have no clue how you have such problems with energy, unless you’re just running around with poor equipment or spamming other high costs spells along with SS. (I usually cast backfire on monks/casters along with echoing SS, and still don’t have energy problems.) As long as you have a +13-15 energy 20/20 (I personally switch to a 40% recharge at times) weapons set you should be just fine with echo SS.
All that said, I’m really tired of SS necros NOT using arcane echo.
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Also, echoing SS like that, I can kill faster than most nukers in FoW.
yesitsrob
One of the funniest screens i've seen is in the iQ forums, a warrior using signet of midnight as his elite, gg.
Although frenzied rebirth is a pretty good one.
Things like casting backfire on warriors, dolyak signet tanks in pvp, using guilt on monks, monks using barbed trap so they can kite warriors, meteor shower rangers.... things like that are so common in randoms... it's pretty much the random arena metagame
Although frenzied rebirth is a pretty good one.
Things like casting backfire on warriors, dolyak signet tanks in pvp, using guilt on monks, monks using barbed trap so they can kite warriors, meteor shower rangers.... things like that are so common in randoms... it's pretty much the random arena metagame
Avarre
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I'm really tired of seeing every SS necro bringing echo... it's like what was said about monks in one of the guild interviews... '.. two monks is two monks, but three monks is not worth three. It's more like 2 and a half.'
SS is like that, 2 SS just spammed out is more like 1.5, because you neglect the other skills that can do more interesting things.
Anyway, I think that Mo/W with rebirth and frenzy tops just about everything... what was he thinking?
Da Cebuano
I love this thread, made me chuckle quite a bit, I'll add a few:
MOnk: Runs bond on oro run but no Blessed sig and spams I have 2_40 energy!! over and over again at the very beginning of the run(yeah the first mob), spams healing breeze on other players(I'm dedicated heal monk, he dind'nt need to do anything cept keep up bonds)I then tell him to stop spamming(one is enough), he then rage quits, noob energy management FTL.
Warrior: In the same group, W/mo has full knights set and carries book, uses shields up(holding the book), this w/mo also stated he lost a super vigor by dropping his unsalvaged rune just to show everyone, only to get picked up by another player.
Ele: A previous guildie decided to go on a tombs run, he's lvl16 and wanted to tank -_-; he then told guild leader to stop being an ass hole cause its possible, and that we should've bought 3 monks so he can tank, leader got pissed, left, ele got booted out of guild, this was a trapper group BTW.
Ranger: on another tombs run(barrage) I stated we needed a puller, I appointed one cause he had dragos flatbow. He agreed, and proceeded to run up to mobs, and then run back -_- using his aggro circle to pull.
Necro: Minion Master summoning bone horrors -_-
Mesmer: Conjure phantasm, not particularly too dumb but w/ so many effective mesmer skills, waste of slot, the classic backfire on warrs and empathy on casters is great.
MOnk: Runs bond on oro run but no Blessed sig and spams I have 2_40 energy!! over and over again at the very beginning of the run(yeah the first mob), spams healing breeze on other players(I'm dedicated heal monk, he dind'nt need to do anything cept keep up bonds)I then tell him to stop spamming(one is enough), he then rage quits, noob energy management FTL.
Warrior: In the same group, W/mo has full knights set and carries book, uses shields up(holding the book), this w/mo also stated he lost a super vigor by dropping his unsalvaged rune just to show everyone, only to get picked up by another player.
Ele: A previous guildie decided to go on a tombs run, he's lvl16 and wanted to tank -_-; he then told guild leader to stop being an ass hole cause its possible, and that we should've bought 3 monks so he can tank, leader got pissed, left, ele got booted out of guild, this was a trapper group BTW.
Ranger: on another tombs run(barrage) I stated we needed a puller, I appointed one cause he had dragos flatbow. He agreed, and proceeded to run up to mobs, and then run back -_- using his aggro circle to pull.
Necro: Minion Master summoning bone horrors -_-
Mesmer: Conjure phantasm, not particularly too dumb but w/ so many effective mesmer skills, waste of slot, the classic backfire on warrs and empathy on casters is great.
The undead Mesmer
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I love this thread, made me chuckle quite a bit, I'll add a few:
MOnk: Runs bond on oro run but no Blessed sig and spams I have 2_40 energy!! over and over again at the very beginning of the run(yeah the first mob), spams healing breeze on other players(I'm dedicated heal monk, he dind'nt need to do anything cept keep up bonds)I then tell him to stop spamming(one is enough), he then rage quits, noob energy management FTL. Warrior: In the same group, W/mo has full knights set and carries book, uses shields up(holding the book), this w/mo also stated he lost a super vigor by dropping his unsalvaged rune just to show everyone, only to get picked up by another player. Ele: A previous guildie decided to go on a tombs run, he's lvl16 and wanted to tank -_-; he then told guild leader to stop being an ass hole cause its possible, and that we should've bought 3 monks so he can tank, leader got pissed, left, ele got booted out of guild, this was a trapper group BTW. Ranger: on another tombs run(barrage) I stated we needed a puller, I appointed one cause he had dragos flatbow. He agreed, and proceeded to run up to mobs, and then run back -_- using his aggro circle to pull. Necro: Minion Master summoning bone horrors -_- Mesmer: Conjure phantasm, not particularly too dumb but w/ so many effective mesmer skills, waste of slot, the classic backfire on warrs and empathy on casters is great. |
*Drinks some coffee*
yesitsrob
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I've just had some laughs in randoms at the much feared heal party warrior.
I was also very close to death and all the other warrior chasing me had to do was hit me ( i was at about 50 healths suffering minor degen), instead he opted to use dolyak signet, I ran away (technically i could have crawled away), heal sigged. And then proceeded to kill him, quite funny. I get quite a laugh at the dolyak signet and flurry warriors
Avarre
In PvE, conjure is an abominable waste of a slot. I think that's what was meant.
Evilsod
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In PvE, conjure is an abominable waste of a slot. I think that's what was meant.
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B Ephekt
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Originally Posted by Avarre
Not gonna go into it, but outside of UW echoing SS is a huge waste in my opinion. If a level 29 mob dies in 2SS + Desecrate, why you would need echo spam in FoW? There are a lot of more effective things you could be doing with that skill slot and 15 energy than casting another SS... you have 8 skills, the purpose is not to use them to repeat 1 as much as possible.
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Also, I'd have to say any SS necro only using 2 SSes on aataxes is rather bad. Or either the monk is bad and only aggroing 3 at a time.
NecroJohn
W/Mo: resurrect in RA = owned in 6 secs
Da Cebuano
Its still dumb, I can understand that you use it and you want to defend it, but its still dumb(opinion). Also My necro comment, waste of carcas IMHO, yeah the recharge is the cause, but you're better off waiting for it then wasting it on horrors.
yesitsrob
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Originally Posted by Da Cebuano
Its still dumb, I can understand that you use it and you want to defend it, but its still dumb(opinion). Also My necro comment, waste of carcas IMHO, yeah the recharge is the cause, but you're better off waiting for it then wasting it on horrors.
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Skills being good or not isn't much of an opinion thing... eg, Eviscerate is good (fact), Skull Crack sucks (fact).. Conjure Phantasm is a good skill (fact)
Da Cebuano
And your fact = everybody elses fact? no, you're treating your opinion as fact = false. Evi is good = fact, that goes w/o saying but conjure? uhhmm.. it can be argued w/ both sides having valid explanations.
So conjure good = fact, conjure bad = fact, or we can just call them both opinions and save the head ache, in which I think its a piece of crap, I posted my opinion w/o any regards to what other people think. Its cause the titles say "post what the dumbest thing YOU'VE seen a profession do" meaning my POV, its very pointless to argue someone's thoughts don't you think?
So conjure good = fact, conjure bad = fact, or we can just call them both opinions and save the head ache, in which I think its a piece of crap, I posted my opinion w/o any regards to what other people think. Its cause the titles say "post what the dumbest thing YOU'VE seen a profession do" meaning my POV, its very pointless to argue someone's thoughts don't you think?
yesitsrob
You posted that the dumbest thing you've seen a mesmer do is use conjure phantasm, I felt like arguing it because a significant amount of mesmer builds I run use it. That is all. And I don't run dumb builds, and I'm not a dumb player.
MMSDome
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I love this thread, made me chuckle quite a bit, I'll add a few:
MOnk: Runs bond on oro run but no Blessed sig and spams I have 2_40 energy!! over and over again at the very beginning of the run(yeah the first mob), spams healing breeze on other players(I'm dedicated heal monk, he dind'nt need to do anything cept keep up bonds)I then tell him to stop spamming(one is enough), he then rage quits, noob energy management FTL. Warrior: In the same group, W/mo has full knights set and carries book, uses shields up(holding the book), this w/mo also stated he lost a super vigor by dropping his unsalvaged rune just to show everyone, only to get picked up by another player. Ele: A previous guildie decided to go on a tombs run, he's lvl16 and wanted to tank -_-; he then told guild leader to stop being an ass hole cause its possible, and that we should've bought 3 monks so he can tank, leader got pissed, left, ele got booted out of guild, this was a trapper group BTW. Ranger: on another tombs run(barrage) I stated we needed a puller, I appointed one cause he had dragos flatbow. He agreed, and proceeded to run up to mobs, and then run back -_- using his aggro circle to pull. Necro: Minion Master summoning bone horrors -_- Mesmer: Conjure phantasm, not particularly too dumb but w/ so many effective mesmer skills, waste of slot, the classic backfire on warrs and empathy on casters is great. |
conjure phantasm has its uses in its certain builds as do all other mesmers skills. Put it in the right place and it will work effectivly, especially a degen build. It is not fair to say its a bad skill because its effective and it only cost 10 energy. Mesmers skills are pricey on energy so you cant go with all 15 energy spells which are the best.
dumbest things ive seen:
-Monk bring restore life on an oro farm
-Monk waits till half life to heal.(this catches up sooner or later and costs you to not kill Bortak >: (