Purchase More Character Slots!

Kylie Minon

Kylie Minon

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

Argentina

Acolitos del Tango [AR]

N/Me

It's a radical change in account options not even filtered thru previous frog/gaile gossip. They just released it... while some were asking for this, the decision was a big surprise, no doubt.

I think the idea here is to "shock and awe" ^^ heating up existing and future userbase.

ALWAYS look for big daddy moves... and his children's. Whos big daddy? NcSoft.

Hint1: Why wouldn't have an ARMY of new slots if WAR is coming?
Hint2: Two words: Chapter Three.
Hint3: Look @ Oath of Blood.

Greetz.

lord_shar

lord_shar

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2005

near SF, CA

Quote:
Originally Posted by WetWookie
"OMG You guys want us to have a better product! I won't stand for this! Let's all unite and fight to make sure that we all have LESS or at the very least we are charged more!"


P.S. Shoes without laces and games where you can't experience all of the content are both functional. They just don't do what a reasonable consumer would expect them to do so the analogy stands.
Everyone bought the GW title knowing that only 4 character slots were being provided. Everyone also accepted the terms of the EULA. Therefore, everyone got what they paid for and agreed to the terms of use. There is nothing unreasonable about this.

Now, if you want more character storage, that extra storage requires additional hardware and maintenance on GW's side -- this costs more money than what we all initially purchased. Therefore, someone has to finance that upgrade, which goes beyond the initial software package and terms purchased.

Bottom line: "There ain't no free lunch" -- if you want something extra, you must be ready to pay the asking price. This is reality in the modern business world. In the time I spent to write this text, I've already earned enough $$$ to buy several extra character lots. Seriously, you're complaining about beans...

WetWookie

WetWookie

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

I didn't know there were only 4 slots. I didn't see anything about that on their box or advertisments. I'm glad $30 is nothing to you. It must make you feel important to put down people who have less money then you. Big thumbs up buddy.

MSecorsky

MSecorsky

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

So Cal

The Sinister Vanguard

Me/

Conspiracy Theory!

This is a trap to catch the EBayers, that will by massive numbers of slots thinking to store more and make their fortune. If you buy too many slots, you will turn the great eye upon you!

BEWARE!

LifeInfusion

LifeInfusion

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

in the midline

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by crimsonfilms
Exactly! The no monthly thing becomes a license to milk it.

More weapons skins for $5 - 'hey we have no monthly'
More storage for $3 - 'hey we have no monthly'
Combine 2 accounts $10 - 'hey we have no monthly'
Server goes down - 'hey we have no monthly'
Faster server access $10 -'hey we have no monthly'
I'm fine with the selling slots. It is not like it is 15 or 20 dollars a slot so it makes sense.

It is 10 dollars.
50 bucks for retail version of prophecies /4 slots= $12.50.
80 bucks for collectors prophecies/4 slots = $20.00


I do fear them going down that road of all those charges though.

lord_shar

lord_shar

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2005

near SF, CA

Quote:
Originally Posted by WetWookie
I didn't know there were only 4 slots. I didn't see anything about that on their box or advertisments. I'm glad $30 is nothing to you. It must make you feel important to put down people who have less money then you. Big thumbs up buddy.
It pays to do some homework on the subject matter... and I'm not putting anyone down when it comes to payscale. If you can affort to post here, then it is obvious that you have access to a PC and internet connection. Therefore, you have more cash that you're willing to spend. GW is a luxury item, not a necessity in life.

Mordakai

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by crimsonfilms
As predicted - the no monthly mantra screams right back.
If that's how you read it... I said no extra expense required to play Guild Wars: Prophecy. At all. Period.

Crimson, I'm really curious, what would you like Anet to do? Offer 4 slots for every merged chapter? Because that's not going to happen...

or do you think it will happen just because you want it to?

Ork Pride

Banned

Join Date: May 2005

they will only add more things that you can buy is because of you people who always whine.

stelliosm

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

I actually thought that the character slots were limited to 4 in order to encourage stronger group play.
Like instead of me having a pve char of every class, id have say a war and a monk, and thats wot id play. And if i wanted a mesmer id have to get someone that plays a mesmer in my group. And id be more experienced in my classes and the other player more experienced in theirs.
Althought if this is true then obviously the feedback from the players was that they wanted to play a char of everyclass =[

Rayea

Rayea

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

west yorkshire, Uk

Sisters of Serenity

N/Mo

well, heres a (hopefully not to naughty) solution for those with a spare acount...

got a friend?
got a friend that has little cash?
got a friend with little cash AND the desire to play GuildWars?

well heres your chance....garb your extra slots for your other accounts, remake your fave caracters and transfer your stuff thats not customised and then....
deleat all characters on your spare acount...hand over that account *AND THE E-MAIL ADDY IT USES TO PLAY/LOG-IN WITH* to your penniless GuoldWars drooling at friend....

(this is assuming that, since you have handed over the game account and the e-mail addy it uses, havent gained cash or anytihng ect, that your not realy breaking the elua agreement.....still, its better than just floggin the game off to an e-buyer....and your friend gets the bonus of all your unlocks, but none of your characters)

Gli

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ork Pride
they will only add more things that you can buy is because of you people who always whine.
Yeah, isn't it great?

I've posted my objections about the 6 slot limit until my fingers were bloody stumps, and if any of it contributed to the sale of extra slots, it was worth every minute of my time.

I've yet to see the 'whining about whiners' camp to accomplish anything.

Imaginos

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by LifeInfusion
I'm fine with the selling slots. It is not like it is 15 or 20 dollars a slot so it makes sense.

It is 10 dollars.
50 bucks for retail version of prophecies /4 slots= $12.50.
80 bucks for collectors prophecies/4 slots = $20.00


I do fear them going down that road of all those charges though.
Just to be debative

30 Bucks for retail bargin bin version of prophecies /4 slots= $7.50
or perhaps in a short bit
20 Bucks for retail bargin bin version of prophecies /4 slots= $5.00

food for thought.

Imaginos

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by lord_shar
It pays to do some homework on the subject matter... and I'm not putting anyone down when it comes to payscale. If you can affort to post here, then it is obvious that you have access to a PC and internet connection. Therefore, you have more cash that you're willing to spend. GW is a luxury item, not a necessity in life.
That is just silly. There are not many people who do research on a game before they buy it unless they are specifically looking for said game and features etc.. Many games are impulse purchases in stores and the poster you were responding to is correct in that there was nothing on the GW box that stated you'd only get 4 character slots.

Cjlr

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

SMS

E/Me

Another thing about this +slots dealio... It makes me really glad I didn't buy a second account. I'd been holding off for quite some time on it, and I was actually going to once Factions came out and (ideally) the price dropped.

But, being the patient, calculating devil I am, I waited. Just like I waitied five weeks after release to buy Guild Wars in the first place. Just like I waited two and a half months after that to join Guild Wars Guru. Just like I waited nine months of not playing my necro before finally deleting her.

And lo and behold, we got our extra slots. So what's to complain about?

Gli

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Imaginos
That is just silly. There are not many people who do research on a game before they buy it unless they are specifically looking for said game and features etc.. Many games are impulse purchases in stores and the poster you were responding to is correct in that there was nothing on the GW box that stated you'd only get 4 character slots.
I bought it on a whim. Ran into it in a shop, drooled over the artwork and remembered hearing good things about it. Quite enjoyed it for much much longer than most games I buy though at times cursing the limited amount of slots. Hoped for Factions to fix it. Gave up on the game because it wouldn't. Got back on the bandwagon because I'll be able to get what I want after all: a hassle free single account setup with all the slots I want. Good game ANet. Three cheers for capitalism. I love problems I can solve by throwing money at them. I'm not kidding.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cjlr
Another thing about this +slots dealio... It makes me really glad I didn't buy a second account. I'd been holding off for quite some time on it, and I was actually going to once Factions came out and (ideally) the price dropped.
I did get a second account but gave it away after a week. It didn't work for me. The hassle far outweighed the benefit. These slots-for-sale are a godsend, though I still loathe the fuzzy math.

A_Muppet

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Well, I dont' care especially. £6 is reasonably priced imo, and I didn't expect the slots to be free. After all, they'll need cash for the extra bandwith their servers have to deal with and whatnot.

I intend to only buy 2-3 anyways. Considering I got a pre-order copy of Factions for about £25 and your average game goes for £40, that isn't so bad.

Lord Iowerth

Lord Iowerth

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Atlanta, GA (#guildwarsguru FTW!)

Biscuit Of Dewm [MEEP]

R/Mo

Oh, yay it's this argument again! I think i've left my dead horse around here somewhere ...

Rayea: I like your idea, as I was just sitting here reading this thread musing what i'm going to do with my secondary account (which is unfortunately a CE account ) I would really like to see the option of having the two merged, even if I lose all my characters on the secondary account.

As is, my primary account has all skills unlocked except for the elites for the professions on my secondary ... which my secondary has unlocked. Sort of a catch-22.

I'd be willing to take the hit ... the only expensive item on 2nd account is my monk's 8k tats, but i'd have to sear, level, ascend, and attribute 3 characters all over again ... but then again ... Factions armor/faces! Yay!

I get the feeling there will be alot of people's secondary accounts for sale on EBay ... lol. (note: I am not endorsing or recommending this idea, just making an observation)

SchwarzKnight

SchwarzKnight

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Imaginos
That is just silly. There are not many people who do research on a game before they buy it unless they are specifically looking for said game and features etc.. Many games are impulse purchases in stores and the poster you were responding to is correct in that there was nothing on the GW box that stated you'd only get 4 character slots.
I don't believe there was anything on the box saying we got more than 1, for that matter.

LifeInfusion

LifeInfusion

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

in the midline

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Imaginos
Just to be debative

30 Bucks for retail bargin bin version of prophecies /4 slots= $7.50
or perhaps in a short bit
20 Bucks for retail bargin bin version of prophecies /4 slots= $5.00

food for thought.
of course that is not factoring the conveniences and features of being in both campaigns...

That was bare numbers. It doesn't account for all the 300 or so skills you get in Factions.

or as Ensign put it:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ensign
If you're worshipping the slots and not the content, you just got a fat offer from A.Net to *double* the content for each of your character slots for the low price of $20.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SchwarzKnight
I don't believe there was anything on the box saying we got more than 1, for that matter.
You only got one in the prereleases. I am actually glad to have 4.

Cjlr

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

SMS

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by SchwarzKnight
I don't believe there was anything on the box saying we got more than 1, for that matter.
The box I've long since recycled, so I don't recall for sure, but I don't think it mentioned the slots issue.

The manual, now, stated very, very clearly that you had four.

lord_shar

lord_shar

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2005

near SF, CA

Quote:
Originally Posted by Imaginos
That is just silly. There are not many people who do research on a game before they buy it unless they are specifically looking for said game and features etc.. Many games are impulse purchases in stores and the poster you were responding to is correct in that there was nothing on the GW box that stated you'd only get 4 character slots.
What is silly about GW's default package? How many MMORPG's have you seen print "X character slots" on the packaging? I haven't seen any myself. The reason: application specifics can change from patch to patch. Also, there's only so much room on the outside of the physical software box. Retail packaging is supposed to entice impulse purchases. Small text that can become quickly outdated doesn't help sales, while colorful cover artwork does. Many still judge books and titles by their cover -- that is the nature of marketting.

Yes, I did research on GW and knew about the 4 character slot limitation before buying it. However, this is not a requirement to fully enjoy present game content.

Grammar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

The fact that GW has no monthly fee blows a hole in just about 99% of the bitchin' going on here.

As for the other 1%, the folks complaining about not being able to merge multiple Prophecies accounts, you have a valid point, but owning multiple merged accounts is STILL cheaper than having a monthly fee, so there you go.

Mordakai

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gli
I love problems I can solve by throwing money at them. I'm not kidding.
That's gotta be the post of the day!

If only everything in life was so easy to solve...

Lord Iowerth

Lord Iowerth

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Atlanta, GA (#guildwarsguru FTW!)

Biscuit Of Dewm [MEEP]

R/Mo

If I could have my cake and eat it too, i'd rather throw something less expensive than money at my GW problems ... rocks, for example.

But hey, I have a job that pays well ... $10 is a day's lunch for a permanent new char slot? Sign me up!

Venomios

Venomios

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

Guilds are like underwear. Change often or it gets stale fast.

N/Mo

so... Anet... how about them henchie AI? hehehehe... for instance.... please please PLEASE change Orion!!!!!

Eugaet

Eugaet

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

US

Righteous Apathy [RA]

Quote:
Originally Posted by stelliosm
I actually thought that the character slots were limited to 4 in order to encourage stronger group play.
I always felt it was limited to 4 so that you had to think about what type of character to build. I probably spent 10 times as much time deciding on how to design my characters than I would have if I had 1 slot for each profession. I feel I ended up with stronger characters because of it. Limitation invites innovation.

Gli

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Eugaet
I always felt it was limited to 4 so that you had to think about what type of character to build. I probably spent 10 times as much time deciding on how to design my characters than I would have if I had 1 slot for each profession. I feel I ended up with stronger characters because of it. Limitation invites innovation.
Some people don't need to suffer hardship to achieve greatness.

SisterMercy

SisterMercy

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2005

Sisters of Mercy

/signed re: closing this thread.

On a tangent that's been raised:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gli
Merging accounts would bring up all kinds of complications. ANet reps have mentioned several and I can't recall all of them but they were convincing.
...
And imagine the horrors if someone merged stolen accounts.
Someone also mentioned the future markdown of Prophecies which inevitably happens. I'd suspect this would have to be really well-thought before seriously considering it, and even then probably be like a one-time amnesty i.e. with a deadline to merge your accounts.

Lord Iowerth

Lord Iowerth

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Atlanta, GA (#guildwarsguru FTW!)

Biscuit Of Dewm [MEEP]

R/Mo

Also, does anyone else see the irony in this thread being started by a poster whose name is "Hysteria" ?

... just wondering if I was the only one to notice that

Eugaet

Eugaet

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

US

Righteous Apathy [RA]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gli
Some people don't need to suffer hardship to achieve greatness.
Well, true. I was just saying that it made me give much more thought to what characters I wanted to create since I could only have 4 of 6 primaries. I feel it's a really neat dynamic. I never felt like it was a hardship, though others do.

pokesoul

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2006

Albino Black Sheep

N/Me

First of all I don't know if this is in the right place but if it needs to be moved that is fine.


I read on the Guild Wars site that soon we will be able to buy character slots. I bought 2 copies of the game so I could have a character of each type. Now suddenly they are gonna offer us buyable character slots??? Well here is the way i see it.

I payed $59.99 for a collectors edition of the original game. $49.99 for my second account so I could have a char of each type. And now I have reserved 2 copies of Faction 1 collector's and 1 regular. All togethor that is over $230 because I liked and cared about the game enough to spend that. I understand prices drop but that is not the issue here. I am going to have to pay almost double for each expansion as to what people who waited are going to have to. I could have had all my charcters for $80 with the collectors edition and all my faction chars for $150 total instead of the $230. On top of that who knows how many expansions I will have to pay double for.

I am not suggesting that this doesn't happen it would be good for alot of people. I am suggesting that in some way I should be able to link my accounts. So that in the future I won't have to pay double for my expansions. I mean I put alot of money and time into the game and right now I can't even transfer stuff from character to character without asking a frend to help.

At this point I only see this as a offence to the people willing to pay for these extra accounts. All in all if I can't link my accounts I will restart my characters on bought character slots. Which will most likely frustrate me and cause me to quit this wonderful game and end up playing something else.

Thanks,

Poke

LifeInfusion

LifeInfusion

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

in the midline

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Iowerth
Also, does anyone else see the irony in this thread being started by a poster whose name is "Hysteria" ?

... just wondering if I was the only one to notice that
I only replied subsequent to checking guildwars.com

viper008

Banned

Join Date: May 2005

Yeah same here, I have 4 accounts all because of the slot and storage shortage from all the holiday items. Of course I would love to transfer my toons to one account but I don't fore see that happing anytime soon.

Anet should've given enough slots to start with no ifs, ands, or buts period.

Macrae

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2006

Albino Black Sheep

R/

As always Poke, I completely agree bro

zamial

zamial

Site Contributor

Join Date: Apr 2006

Usa

TKC

N/

ok,i started reading and did some thinking,i ran out of patience trying to read all the posts.pro/con cry either way.....i think its great.i dont play any other online game and truly LOVE this game.(try to play almost every day).my BIG question is:will i be able to merge 2 accounts,ie.prophecies,into each other?i hope so.IDEA for A-NET heres a money maker for you,that makes sense.add in more races to play in the expantion after factions.lets see...... even 2 more races(that are backwards compatable with previous releases)with no additional classes =6x3(races total)=18 needed character slots to have all the pve only char combos,multiply that times 2 for pvp and the magic number is:36 needed.ya have 6 charecter slots,at this point per [email protected] ea...........for extra slots we would need 30 more...that is 300.00 profit per player,and most die hard players will try to come up with the cash.i know i would and im not rich by any means(not yet anyways)so it would add a real flavor to the game, as noone will have maxed characters in every possible class any time soon,adding a real fantacy flavor to the game and money to support our fun/addiction.i almost forgot if i want both sexs in every class, well im sure you can do the math........just a thought and level 20 will suddenly seems acceptable real fast.......

sorry for bad grammer/spelling if it exsists....

Mark of Rodgort

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/Me

the questions is..is there a cap on how many slots you can buy??

Fred Kiwi

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

[cola]

teeheheeheh

flying chickens

http://eu.guildwars.com/gallery/view/546/

byul

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

Somewhere in GW

Yay!! Finally something to praise A-Net for.

SisterMercy

SisterMercy

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2005

Sisters of Mercy

LOL. Some criticize A.net for doing anything that might turn them a profit, and others look to devise a big money-maker for them. Can't please everyone.

Quote:
Originally Posted by zamial
...lets see...... even 2 more races(that are backwards compatable with previous releases)with no additional classes =6x3(races total)=18 needed character slots to have all the pve only char combos,multiply that times 2 for pvp and the magic number is:36 needed.ya have 6 charecter slots,at this point per [email protected] ea...........for extra slots we would need 30 more...that is 300.00 profit per player,and most die hard players will try to come up with the cash.i know i would and im not rich by any means...

Wessels

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2005

Boyz from the Dwarf

Mo/N

Quote:
I'm hoping Anet would help out the people with this situation, seeing as how many people bought a second (and third) account for slots. Some of my guildmates have multiple accounts and some of them weren't too happy when they found out that you can have the option to purchase slots. Therefore, I'm hoping sooner or later (meaning this summer), Anet would find a way to let them merge their multiple accounts together so they won't have to buy many copies of each chapter.
I purchased two accounts ( and pre-ordered two copies of factions as well ) and the fact they're now - after all this time - offering character slots is , at the very least , odd.

They have know about the request by avid players ever since GW was pretty much released and only now have they decided to address this issue .Makes all those folks who bought those 2 accounts ( in order to be able to play all classes as primary ) scratch their heads , I can tell you that.

"ripped off " springs to mind...

As for the merging of acounts .They have repeatedly stated this will never happen so we're ( folks with multiple accounts ) the big losers - having forked out close to $200 for 4 games ( actually 1 game with enough character slots ) .

[EDIT}:
Quote:
At this point I only see this as a offence to the people willing to pay for these extra accounts.
agreed