Tips and Maps for 100% Tyria Exploration (No Map Checks)

DarkChaos

DarkChaos

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Sep 2006

Guardians Of Dragon Temple [GoDT]

W/

I'm on 99.5 and could really do with some help, thanks :]

merraton

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

Ordo Lupi Albi

W/Mo

95.2% and out of ideas

Here is my map:

legendel

legendel

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

UK

League of Friends (LOF)

R/

hate to ask as i tried searching, but is there a 100% map anywhere with red fog so we can do our own comparisons

merraton

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

Ordo Lupi Albi

W/Mo

I can't also find a big U map taken in 1280x1024 to compare. All maps on wiki are in strange resolutions I can't zoom them in/out to match my U map.

the_jos

the_jos

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Hard Mode Legion [HML]

N/

merraton,

I'm not exactly sure what you mean.
U-maps don't depend on screen resolution.
There is however one HUGE problem.
Since the 17-7 update, all large maps on wiki (like http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Map or http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Maps) are outdated.

They can still be used to compare, but are not 100% identical.
To put it in other words, the current U-map is bugged.
Some spots show up with fog while they have been cleared.

Maximumraver

Maximumraver

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

The Netherlands

Twisted Revenge [TR]

E/

Im @ 99% and with the new gwen map i can't find any unexplored spots anymore anyone care to help?

TsukasaPT

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2007

Nine Tailed Fox

Me/N

thanks mesmer in need
i m now 99,9% and i dont know how to open the bridge in the dunes os despair


can anyone tell me?

Abdel Alhazred

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2007

Italia

Mi sento nuda senza [SLIP]

N/

I'm at 97.6% after just going around, now I was doing as I did for Cantha and Elona (U-map), but I ca't do it!!!
I don't know how to find the 2.4% I need, can anyone help me?

VirgoT

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2007

Roses of the Moonlight Sigil [RoMS]

W/Rt

I heard there is some sort of leeway when exploring the Tyrian map. Is this true? If so, how much?

I'm at 99.6%.

merraton

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

Ordo Lupi Albi

W/Mo

I don't understand it. There has to be something wrong with mechanism behind counting explored area. Some people can miss out big spots and still get 100%, but others need to get every small pixel uncovered to get title :/ I had such problems with Elona. And it looks like I will have same with Canta and Tyria.

DarkChaos

DarkChaos

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Sep 2006

Guardians Of Dragon Temple [GoDT]

W/

Edit: 100% now- thanks everyone ^^

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g1...g?t=1185752512

Asrial

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Centurion Guard

Mo/E

THE TOOLS:

AVISYNTH -- http://downloads.sourceforge.net/avi...6&big_mirror=0


VIRTUALDUB -- http://downloads.sourceforge.net/vir...8&big_mirror=0

TEXMOD + MOD -- http://guildwars.incgamers.com/forum...d.php?t=457255

100% Tyria Map (1024x768) -- http://home.sprynet.com/~asrial/MapWork/1024-Tyria.jpg

100% Tyria Map (1280x1024) -- http://home.sprynet.com/~asrial/MapWork/1280-Tyria.jpg

100% Cantha Map (1024x768) --
http://home.sprynet.com/~asrial/MapWork/1024-Cantha.jpg

100% Cantha Map (1280x1024) --
http://home.sprynet.com/~asrial/MapWork/1280-Cantha.jpg

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Download AviSynth, VirtualDub, TexMod, and the Mapping Mod made by Tiyuri.

Make a text script titled "whateveryouwant.avs" and in it, put this text:

(text start; do not put this in)

a = ImageSource("insert location and full name of 100% map here",end=0).Subtitle("baseline")

b = ImageSource("insert location and full name of non-100% map here",end=0)

c = overlay(b,a,mode="difference")

a + b + c

(text end; do not put this in)

Run Guild Wars with the mapping mod and take a 1024 screenshot of your map. Run VirtualDub and load the avs file and go through the 3 screenshots and find your missing areas.

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The concept is this...

You create as clean a screenshot as you can and compare it to a 100% screenshot made using the same process.

Using VirtualDub allows you to flip back and forth ALOT faster than any other program out there PLUS it allows a comparison to be made. Anything that shows up in a light blue/white color, in the third frame, is an area that has a discrepancy. You can then focus your eyes on that spot and go back to the two prior frames to determine if it's on the 100% map or yours.

Further, as you progress clearing areas, all you need to do is make a new screenshot and replace the file location in the avs file and hit F5 in VirtualDub to refresh the file load.

Quick and painless.

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VirtualDub is the program used to do the comparison and picture viewing.

AviSynth is used to install the scripting language for the text file loaded into VirtualDub.

TexMod and the Mod is used to create the best screenshot possible.

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I also have a request...

If anyone finds spots that THEY have uncovered but I don't, please let me know.

CURRENT AREAS NOT CONCERNED WITH: The areas you reach by being banished by Shiro and the area you reach by Necrotic Traversal when Evennia dies by poison.

thomasnl88

thomasnl88

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2006

Netherlands

[iDum]

Woaw Asrial, Method is working great. Maybe i'll be a LC soon ^^

Thnx m8

merraton

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

Ordo Lupi Albi

W/Mo

Will check that out as soon as possible. Hope it works

Vampyrija

Vampyrija

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2006

N/

Hi!

I'm on 98.4%. Can anyone take a look at my map and tell me what I'm missing? Thanks in advance!

merraton

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

Ordo Lupi Albi

W/Mo

Use the Asrial method. It's very good.

Could anyone post 100% Tyria and Catha map (those with green fog) but in 1280x1024?

Asrial

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Centurion Guard

Mo/E

I wlll Merraton.

My native resolution is 1024x768.

Honest question.. why do you want them in higher resolutions?

[EDIT: done; check the post with all the instructions for links to my 1280 maps]

merraton

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

Ordo Lupi Albi

W/Mo

Because 1280x1024 is resolution I use normally This way I can also do an alt+tab check while in-game.

After what I saw on my map using your method I don't think I'll be working on cartographer in near future because I'd have to replay almost all if not all locations in Tyria, and honestly - I don't have both time and will to do that

Nonetheless - Your method is great and I will use it when the time comes

Bill Easternview

Bill Easternview

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2007

Behind you a safe distance

Legion of Avalon

Mo/

Vampyrija

Attached is a reviewed version of your map.

Note however that some of the areas marked may be places you have uncovered and that my 100% map does not show. Since getting to 100% in Tyria I have found and revealed some large chunks of ground, enough to get me to 100.5% I am sure if the counter did not stop at 100%.

Boogie Knight

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2007

The Imperial Cult

W/Mo

Hello ppl,can someone help by cicleing the spots ive missed on my map,i would gratefully appreciate it im currently at %98 of tyria cleared and im stumped on where the other %2 is. Thanx for the help Ok,heres a better resolution pic of my tyria map,could you plz circle again the parts ive missed,thank you------http://s189.photobucket.com/albums/z244/kpguessin/?action=view&current=gw027.jpg

Bill Easternview

Bill Easternview

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2007

Behind you a safe distance

Legion of Avalon

Mo/

Boogie Knight,

I took a chance, but the results were disappointing. When they increased the size of the Tyria map they made the "whole map" comparison method much harder. With your map at 1024x768 it's just a bit too low resolution. I see differences where I know there can't be differences, because the area is too far from an accessible location.

Still, the areas I marked in the South-East desert to the probably are areas you have not visited yet. No guarantees on the rest of the marked areas though. If you can set your graphics option to a higher level, 1280x1024 for example, it would help a lot.

Also, 98% mapped means there are likely to be some large areas that you have not visited yet. That 2% covers a lot of ground! I would suggest you look for "fuzzy" patches inside your map. Much of Tyria is made up of rectangular blocks, which in a 100% map will be completely revealed. Many mapped areas should also have relatively straight edges.

Good Luck!

Bill Easternview

Bill Easternview

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2007

Behind you a safe distance

Legion of Avalon

Mo/

Takeko Nakano,

Another attempt at a 1024x768 map check.
Don't know if this one will do any better than the last, but please give it a try, if you have not finished up in the meantime.

Higher resolution maps are much easier to review!

Trivium Crusader

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2006

A View Of Burning Empires [Raid]

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tentigers
Ok guys/ladies

Here is a new link to the picture and I have clicked on it to make sure it works and it does, just fine. I dont understand why some cant see the map when they click on the link. I would suggest you check you popup blockers or security settings for you system, other than that, I dont know.

I am currently at 98.7. I will explore riverside because theres a spot in the MISSION right behind the temple I can get after reviewing other 100 percent maps. Also, theres an area in Ice Cave of sorrow mission that I can also get, but I would be lucky to get .1 for both locations. I do know I need to go back to Hells Precipice and get a few area, like walking in the water, but this area will only get me .2 if I am lucky. I also know about the area in the Sanctum Cay mission near the end, the little area past the boat around the cove. Other than these areas, I have no clue where to look. I suspect they are in the shiverpeaks areas (shivers) because this map is from my main character which is an Ele (bows)

http://st105.startlogic.com/~alkaspa...img=gw008a.jpg

Update, I did Ice Caves mission, riverside, and hells precipice and am now at 99.0 percent.

I am clueless now as to where the missing 1 percent is. Im hoping it not the arenas or HOH. I cant get to the arena maps and have no clue how to get to HOH Lol ur such a pve scrub

lincoln skofield

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2007

GAHHH!!!! I tried the photoshop thing and it not working, can someone help me find this remaing bit of my map, I am at 98.5% and for somereason can not find the last bits of map :S..... I took a break because it was getting tiring and depressing with not finding anymore of the map... hopefully you guys can help..

Thanks

Takeko Nakano

Takeko Nakano

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Great Britain

W/P

Right, I'm now at 99.0%, though I'm sure there are a few 0.01% in there too.

I've taken this screenshot at a higher resolution because it was pointed out it wasn't detailed enough last time.

This one is 1600x1024. I know I need to do the Evennia trick in The Wilds. If anyone is willing to help me do that I'd appreciate it (I'm in the UK in regards to time-zones) - I've read the guildwiki guide but don't understand how to put it into practice.

Asrial

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Centurion Guard

Mo/E

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...postcount=3777

How to do your own map checking.

Takeko Nakano

Takeko Nakano

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Great Britain

W/P

Here is a new map at 1280x1024, as my previous one apparently wasn't of much use.

Bill Easternview

Bill Easternview

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2007

Behind you a safe distance

Legion of Avalon

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Takeko Nakano
Here is a new map at 1280x1024, as my previous one apparently wasn't of much use. Nakano,

Please try the attached reviewed verison of your map.
Stuff in the desert and the north-west swamps first maybe?

Good Luck

darktemplar32489

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

[kiSu]

W/

97.2%


Thanks,
Will

Boogie Knight

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2007

The Imperial Cult

W/Mo

Hopefully this wont be considered a double post,somebody said my resolution wasnt high enough for a clear view of my tyrian map so here is a higher resolution one,so could you plz circle again the parts ive missed,i wanna finish this title been [IMG][/IMG]workin on it for a long time. Thank you guys

Asrial

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Centurion Guard

Mo/E

Apparently people just want the fish handed to them

Boogie Knight

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2007

The Imperial Cult

W/Mo

Asrial im not asking for the fish to be handed to me,im just asking for a little help reeling it in.I still have to do the unfogging of the map just asking someone to help with showing me what i have missed,just like you would ask someone to help with a mission.And again i thank anyone that does help me with the uncovering of the map.

Rockby Quickfoot

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2006

Raptor Five [Five]

Me/Mo

Here is a link to mine, at 97.4

http://s122.photobucket.com/albums/o...rent=gw150.jpg

Asrial, for the record, I don't want the fish handed to me, I just don't understand your guide. I am horrible with computers and just don't get how to use all that stuff in your guide. I also don't know how to compare the maps other ways by myself, which is why I'm asking for help. If you can teach me how to do it, that'd be great, but otherwise I'm stuck relying on other people.

Bill Easternview

Bill Easternview

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2007

Behind you a safe distance

Legion of Avalon

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rockby Quickfoot
Here is a link to mine, at 97.4

http://s122.photobucket.com/albums/o...rent=gw150.jpg


Asrial, for the record, I don't want the fish handed to me, I just don't understand your guide. I am horrible with computers and just don't get how to use all that stuff in your guide. I also don't know how to compare the maps other ways by myself, which is why I'm asking for help. If you can teach me how to do it, that'd be great, but otherwise I'm stuck relying on other people.
Rockby Quickfoot,

You have 2.6% of the map left to uncover, that is a LOT of map. I don't know about other reviewers, but until you are at 99.5% there are likely to be so many places you have missed as to make reviewing a real chore. Second (and more important to me) the map you posted is at 800x554, which is both too low for reviewing via the method I use, and is an odd size to boot. I use a method that requires me to have a map of the exact same dimensions as the one I am reviewing. For Tyria that means I would need you to post a map at: 1680x1050, 1440x900, 1400x1050 or 1280x1024. Other people using different techniques might be able to use other resolutions, but I am not familiar with their limitations.

Boogie Knight,

Your map is 1024x819. So again, there is not much I could do with it. I did note however, that you seem to be missing part of the Dunes of Despair mission area. After you use Necrotic Traversal to get into the bonus area (I don't know any other effective way to map the bonus area) there is a large piece to the East that you do not seem to have mapped. Check the Guildwiki entry for that mission to find out more if you are not familiar with the technique.

Asrial,

Mapping can be tough, and some folks who are trying to do it seem to be a bit unimaginative. Seeing someone run EVERY mission again, in hopes they will stumble across the one tiny piece they need, makes me feel sorry for them, when a little research and some reading of posts could provide them with the answers. Of course, it's the person at 99.9%, who has been there for weeks, that would really inspire me to help. Someone at 94% is just lazy or in too big a hurry and is looking for someone to do their work for them.

Asrial

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Centurion Guard

Mo/E

Bill, I meant with regards to people posting "hey, can someone look at my map and help me find spots?" and ignoring the step by step instructions on how they can do it themselves.

Rockby, I will most CERTAINLY help you

Message me on AIM @ ANovastar78 and I will walk you through it step by step.

The hardest part of it is setting it up. Once that's done, it's really really easy to use.

DFrost

DFrost

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Ultima Thule

Legacy of Echovald [Echo]

P/



I finally made it. Many thanks to all who posted spots worth double-checking in this thread (and in some other ones), they helped a lot!

stocksmd

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Mar 2007

DUMP

N/

Asrial,
Thanks for the info on this technique. Had been on 98.5 for almost a year when I found this post. Finished Cantha and working on Tyria atm, but am having a hard time finding a post of Elona with the green background.

Could someone please post an Elona map [prefer 1280, but any will do].

Thanks

the_jos

the_jos

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Hard Mode Legion [HML]

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill Easternview
You have 2.6% of the map left to uncover, that is a LOT of map. I don't know about other reviewers, but until you are at 99.5% there are likely to be so many places you have missed as to make reviewing a real chore. When I did the compares (before Texmod), at first I compared almost everything above the 95% stated in the first post.
However, I was seeing the same spots over and over, so I made the list of frequently missed spots, which can be found here.
I also made that thread because I do not have enough time anymore for the compares.
An < 98% map usually has more spots, but does not take much more time to compare than a 99.9 one. It's the marking of the spots that takes most time.
Using a graphical editor or even two internet explorer windows to compare maps has always worked for me, it's about the same way Asrial's compare works (have not tried that one yet).

I think there are enough resources available now for people to do their own compares, at least for Tyrian maps.