If its not enough to be told by a vast majority of ranked people that "pve dont take skill"
Im not sure this is the right place but its poped up in factions ....
Ive now began seeing "LFP 4 mission rank 3+ required"
now this bugs me on a number of levels..
first. your ability to fight in HOH against or while using FOTM builds is no indication that you have any clue about what works in PVE.. a great example would be hammer wars.. while highly effective in pvp, using frenzy in pve generally means you die fast and nasty...
Second. there are a VAST majority of players who DO gvg and NOT do heros ascent.. there is no individual ranking for gvg...
Third.. due to the overwhelming arrogance of MANY, not all.. of the PVP heros crowd your going to find very few people who are willing to help you after you fail the mission for the fourth time with your ranked team...( dead serious.. saw "forming team rank 3+ for mission" the mission was tahnnaki temple.. they returned FOUR times ....)
Fourth... there are a plethora of Deaf (read HEARING IMPAIRED) players who are rather good in pvp but refuse to deal with heros ascent/ HOH due to the reliance on ts/vent programs which are outside of our ability to use.. ( sure I can log on your server but unless you have it close captioned im not gonna get much use out of it..)
and finally... there is not ONE mission along the storyline that has not been done by ONE MM and 7 henchies.. please dont tout about how factions is more pvp than pve.. even in the luxon vs kurzick fights there are NPCS guarding the shrines.. a whole team can effectively NEVER fight another person and win a match 500-264.. deaths count as one point... holding the shrines is what wins the match...
please.. grow up.. stop being so dang rude and confirming for many how the pvp crowd are all jerks... and form parties .. granted 6 assassins and 2 ritualists may not be the best choice atm but.. whos to say in a month when everyone has a good handle on skillsets ...
the newest stupidity.. Rank= pve skill..
Samueldg
MaglorD
I believe Anet is partly responsible for perpetuating PVPer-perceived superior mindset. Notice how Anet calls PvPers with fame heros, whereas none of the PvE titles contains the word hero.
JR
If PvE pugs weren't so damn useless maybe it wouldn't come to this. As much as I think the rank/fame system is meaningless trash for rating people within a PvP environment, it does at least show they PvP.
lishi
People are allowed to form their team as they wish , you are allowed to decide if join in a team as you wish.
So if those guy think rank = "skil in pvp" that is their affair you just dont join.
So if those guy think rank = "skil in pvp" that is their affair you just dont join.
eightyfour-onesevenfive
Quote:
Originally Posted by Samueldg
Ive now began seeing "LFP 4 mission rank 3+ required"
You know, if I ever should see such a request, I'll remeind myself of my Protector of Tyria title and my soon to be Tyrian Grandmaster Cartographer, then I'll silently smile, leave those kids to their delusions and continue playing with henchmen or guildies. I'm way past the point of getting upset about the stupidity of random people. 
HOXMAN
its hard to have a choice when it's the majority. but.. i'd say look toward your guildies for help
Conan The Castrater
Maybe Im just prejudiced and using too general a set of stereotypes but heres how it works for me.
If I see an unranked player I have absolutely no idea how much experience he has, he could be a regular first teamer in a top 100 guild or he could have just bought the game a few weeks ago. Most people who continually PvE run either run solo farming builds or other specialist builds (ie b/p) so no matter how much experience (or in other words: time played) they have, you have no idea if they can play their character in a team setting.
If I see a rank 3+ player I presume that he has PvEd as much as he'd like to, tried out a few different builds in HA, and then possibly IWAY'd about 50-75% of his fame. People who have managed to get to rank 3 I feel will have had a decent stab at trying out a fair few more builds before they fall back on iway.
I know its not a 100% method, but I dont look for ranked teams for PvE missions, in fact I dont trust anybody enough and just soloed my way through it all with hencheis, excepting missions requiring more than 1 player to carry objects. I'm just pointing out that this could be the rational used by those players when forming ranked PvE teams.
If I see an unranked player I have absolutely no idea how much experience he has, he could be a regular first teamer in a top 100 guild or he could have just bought the game a few weeks ago. Most people who continually PvE run either run solo farming builds or other specialist builds (ie b/p) so no matter how much experience (or in other words: time played) they have, you have no idea if they can play their character in a team setting.
If I see a rank 3+ player I presume that he has PvEd as much as he'd like to, tried out a few different builds in HA, and then possibly IWAY'd about 50-75% of his fame. People who have managed to get to rank 3 I feel will have had a decent stab at trying out a fair few more builds before they fall back on iway.
I know its not a 100% method, but I dont look for ranked teams for PvE missions, in fact I dont trust anybody enough and just soloed my way through it all with hencheis, excepting missions requiring more than 1 player to carry objects. I'm just pointing out that this could be the rational used by those players when forming ranked PvE teams.
Racthoh
Henchmen are better than most players, take them. They don't complain, and they even talk now so you have some company. And since the new henchmen remove hexes and conditions insanely fast, the domination henchmen interrupts 1/4 casts consistanly... I see no reason to play with humans when the AI will outperform your typical player. Even with their current bad habits (not ressing unless they have full health for example), it's a small price to pay to get into a group instantly knowing that the brunt of the task at hand depends solely on your ability. They're r3 as far as I'm concerned.
VGJustice
Yeah, I'm seeing this a bit in Factions now, too. But, it's nothing new. Had a guy flash a Dear at me when I told him that my party was full at THK. I dunno, maybe he thought I'd go and kick one of the mostly Guru team I had assembled in favor of some random yahoo that knows how to play IWAY. Read as "No Effing Way".
Anymore, I just kindly remind the idiots that Rank has nothing at all to do with PvE, and I don't care how many times they've held Halls. It's a different game in PvE, a strange magical land where Riposte can be a good skill and Frenzy is, generally, a death wish.
Anymore, I just kindly remind the idiots that Rank has nothing at all to do with PvE, and I don't care how many times they've held Halls. It's a different game in PvE, a strange magical land where Riposte can be a good skill and Frenzy is, generally, a death wish.
Tromador
Viewpoint A:
mmm.. yes... let's all be elitist and never have a newbie in our PUG, after all, we don't want our lovely game polluted by new blood - we've all got everything we need here nicely sorted and happy. New players are the bane of Guildwars and thus must be discouraged. If we only recruit guildies with fame, only pvp with famous players and now finally, only pve with famous players, we will surely ensure that this dangerous influx of new players will end.
Viewpoint B:
Well, there's a lot of experienced PvE players who never set foot in an arena. Anyway, the game is about having fun with people and it is only a game. If you get stuck with the archetypal "lame rushing noob", well it doesn't happen often and if it's a genuine noob (not just a poor player) then a bit of advice will help your group, help the newbie and perhaps net you a useful addition to your online contacts and maybe even guild in the long term.
I think I'll just start advertising as follows:
LFP 4 mission. Sense of humour, tolerance and common decency required.
mmm.. yes... let's all be elitist and never have a newbie in our PUG, after all, we don't want our lovely game polluted by new blood - we've all got everything we need here nicely sorted and happy. New players are the bane of Guildwars and thus must be discouraged. If we only recruit guildies with fame, only pvp with famous players and now finally, only pve with famous players, we will surely ensure that this dangerous influx of new players will end.
Viewpoint B:
Well, there's a lot of experienced PvE players who never set foot in an arena. Anyway, the game is about having fun with people and it is only a game. If you get stuck with the archetypal "lame rushing noob", well it doesn't happen often and if it's a genuine noob (not just a poor player) then a bit of advice will help your group, help the newbie and perhaps net you a useful addition to your online contacts and maybe even guild in the long term.
I think I'll just start advertising as follows:
LFP 4 mission. Sense of humour, tolerance and common decency required.
Vermilion Okeanos
Next time anyone who see someone looking for party like this, let loose and go berserk on the kid and bash him to death. Just to make sure this trend doesn't start rolling to an unstoppable pace like in HA or the former tomb.
When the good doesn't act, the evil get its way.
When the good doesn't act, the evil get its way.
JR
Quote:
Originally Posted by Racthoh
Henchmen are better than most players, take them. They don't complain, and they even talk now so you have some company. And since the new henchmen remove hexes and conditions insanely fast, the domination henchmen interrupts 1/4 casts consistanly... I see no reason to play with humans when the AI will outperform your typical player. Even with their current bad habits (not ressing unless they have full health for example), it's a small price to pay to get into a group instantly knowing that the brunt of the task at hand depends solely on your ability. They're r3 as far as I'm concerned.
It's a well known fact that Mage Henchman has a Tiger.
fb2000
ive seen people spamming "RANK 8 ELITE PRO PLAYER LFP!!!!!! MISSION!!!!"... especially interesting that it was in House zu Heltzer, and it WASNT for the elite mission 
baz777
Level 1 Assassin with R12 emote, must have him in my team 
Dahl
two words...
"hench it"
You can complete most, if not all, of factions with hench. I got up to eternal grove with hench, then I started going half-hench because You ened splitability in eternal grove and you need at least 2 human players to properly to unwaking waters for the res orbs.
Just grab hench They know how to follow called targets better too.
"hench it"
You can complete most, if not all, of factions with hench. I got up to eternal grove with hench, then I started going half-hench because You ened splitability in eternal grove and you need at least 2 human players to properly to unwaking waters for the res orbs.
Just grab hench
Mezmo
hehe, I rember jumping in group once going from rankor to war camp with two people spaming "Rank 6 Tank and monk going to war camp,allowing other to come with use!" And when i went with them, they must have agroed 3 heritics, 2 dolyak masters, and 10 beastmasters. Yeah, after we were all murdered, they were like "Oops, i forgot that little circle around you meant that if monsters touched it they would attack." I left them after that and simply got the henchies and went. Rank trully means nothing in PvE. In pvp yeah, it means they've played some. In PvE it means they've most likley forgotten everything there is about the game, and will most likely get you killed if flashing off thier emote is how they get into groups.
GranDeWun
One thing people don't learn in PvP is how "pulling" works. I went into a mission with 2 players who were both flashing rank, the rest were henches. At the first spot where I said 'let me pull these', they ran forward past me as I shot the first arrow. Needless to say, we died...
NinjaKai
Quote:
Originally Posted by JR-
If PvE pugs weren't so damn useless maybe it wouldn't come to this. As much as I think the rank/fame system is meaningless trash for rating people within a PvP environment, it does at least show they PvP.
I have to disagree slightly. I've been with many PUGs and they have been very useful. Heck I once did a LONG string of quests and missions with a PUG we got out of the city in a matter of hours. But then again that's a very unique situation.
chessyang
Quote:
Originally Posted by GranDeWun
Needless to say, we died...
eheehhe i agree... love how my farming budy w/ 500k and 100 some ectos, perfect req7 swords... etc, thinks he's the bomb. But when it comes to coop misson he's the first to die and say "oh i have to change my skills can we restart". Farming and doing coop misson are not the same thing! /end of rant
well after reading some of the post here i can say i haven't come across any teams or groups looking for rank. Not that far in Factions PvE. Also like the other guy said above me that some Good players in PvE don't do HA or HOH. Not saying i'm "Good" but I learned to "play on a team" reguarless of noobs and know-it-alls. Love PUGs... make new friends that way.
I would love to level up my rank or invest more time into a good guild but life outside of GW demands more then a VR.
oh well i just ignore people looking for rank or werid request. with a million some players your bound to get a good group (even w/ an assassin who tires to be a tank -( )
well after reading some of the post here i can say i haven't come across any teams or groups looking for rank. Not that far in Factions PvE. Also like the other guy said above me that some Good players in PvE don't do HA or HOH. Not saying i'm "Good" but I learned to "play on a team" reguarless of noobs and know-it-alls. Love PUGs... make new friends that way.
I would love to level up my rank or invest more time into a good guild but life outside of GW demands more then a VR.
oh well i just ignore people looking for rank or werid request. with a million some players your bound to get a good group (even w/ an assassin who tires to be a tank -( )
Huntmaster
I once saw a "r3+ Tombs B/P group" that was taking r3 people only because tombs was too hard with unranked.
I joined them, got on their TS server, and laughed at them.
I'm banned from that server now.
I joined them, got on their TS server, and laughed at them.
I'm banned from that server now.
Sir Mad
As posted in another topic, I refuse to use titles based on your rank, as titles were supposed to be PvE rewards. Instead, I stick on my Cartographer title untill I finally get this damned drunkard title 
More, I will NEVER invite or accept a guy spamming "Rank xxx lfp" in my team, as I wont accept stupid players spamming stuff like "15k armor/fow armor/ranger with spider/etc. lfp". Idiocy shouldn't be encouraged. Let's just laugh at them. They're ridiculous.
On a side note, I've completed the second mission gathering 2 teams (cant remember the name) with 15 henchies yesterday (no other team had joined so I partied with a second team full of henchies) in exactly 9 mins when I died during my 2 first attempts with uber-noobs very proud of showing their bambi rank.
I'm not saying being ranked means you're a PvE newb, that's just wrong. But I'm saying that 1/ titles should have remained PvE rewards as it was originally planed, and 2/ ranks is PvP stuff; being headed enough to claim some kind of superiority because of it in PvE is just stupid.
More, I will NEVER invite or accept a guy spamming "Rank xxx lfp" in my team, as I wont accept stupid players spamming stuff like "15k armor/fow armor/ranger with spider/etc. lfp". Idiocy shouldn't be encouraged. Let's just laugh at them. They're ridiculous.On a side note, I've completed the second mission gathering 2 teams (cant remember the name) with 15 henchies yesterday (no other team had joined so I partied with a second team full of henchies) in exactly 9 mins when I died during my 2 first attempts with uber-noobs very proud of showing their bambi rank.
I'm not saying being ranked means you're a PvE newb, that's just wrong. But I'm saying that 1/ titles should have remained PvE rewards as it was originally planed, and 2/ ranks is PvP stuff; being headed enough to claim some kind of superiority because of it in PvE is just stupid.
fiery
Whats worst than a whiner in Prophecies, a whiner in Factions. Let the rank people make their rank groups, and you make YOUR OWN GROUP.
Dove_Song
look at the bright side..now you know which groups not to join:
"LFP RANK >4 only!!"
to me thats says "We are PvP and our skill bars are set up that way, so prepare to fail a mission."
"LFP RANK >4 only!!"
to me thats says "We are PvP and our skill bars are set up that way, so prepare to fail a mission."
Twitch1977
I've done most of factions with henchies except for a few of the mission towns. Anyways I wanted to come to the defense of any newbies out there.
I always see groups saying, 'looking for experienced players' 'no nubs' (everytime I hear someone say 'nub' I want to stab them in the face) but as far as I'm concerned I'll take a raw newb who has had the game for a day over some arrogant know it all jackass that has played for a year as long as they're willing to listen a bit when it comes to handling certain situations. I think if you give them a chance you'll find that most of them will listen and take things at an appropriate pace because they're trying to learn the game.
I was a newbie once and relied on people in my pugs to teach me the game and show me what skills to take and I'd imagine that's true for just about everyone. So don't ignore the newbs or get all pissy at them if they don't take a vital skill the first time, just show them some patience because odds are when you were new some people showed you the same respect.
Anyways, just my 2 cents, you new players are always welcome in my groups
T
I always see groups saying, 'looking for experienced players' 'no nubs' (everytime I hear someone say 'nub' I want to stab them in the face) but as far as I'm concerned I'll take a raw newb who has had the game for a day over some arrogant know it all jackass that has played for a year as long as they're willing to listen a bit when it comes to handling certain situations. I think if you give them a chance you'll find that most of them will listen and take things at an appropriate pace because they're trying to learn the game.
I was a newbie once and relied on people in my pugs to teach me the game and show me what skills to take and I'd imagine that's true for just about everyone. So don't ignore the newbs or get all pissy at them if they don't take a vital skill the first time, just show them some patience because odds are when you were new some people showed you the same respect.
Anyways, just my 2 cents, you new players are always welcome in my groups
T
SirShadowrunner
Time for a noob question, sry, ppl cannot see what rank you are can they??
You have to show them with this deer emote thing ??
I have no rank, never been in HoH, so not familiar with all PvP stuff, so
need to get informed a little more.
thx a bunch......
You have to show them with this deer emote thing ??
I have no rank, never been in HoH, so not familiar with all PvP stuff, so
need to get informed a little more.
thx a bunch......
Dove_Song
with the new titles system you can see what rank someone is if they choose to list said title.
Lasher Dragon
The rank-flashing in GW PVE is nothing new. I wish they had some kind of emotes for the PVE titles, just so I could go to the PVP areas and flash my "I'm a Raging Drunk Who Has Stumbled Into 90% of Tyria" emote, and then flex and ask "So, which one of you noobs wants to be on the winning team with me?"
BTW: I am horrible at PVP, I have no problem with that. Now, if rangers had Barrett 50-cals I might be a bit more interested.
BTW: I am horrible at PVP, I have no problem with that. Now, if rangers had Barrett 50-cals I might be a bit more interested.
chessyang
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Mad
....as I wont accept stupid players spamming stuff like "15k armor/fow armor/ranger with spider/etc. lfp". Idiocy shouldn't be encouraged. Let's just laugh at them. They're ridiculous.
ya 15k armor is godly! hahaha but ya i agree and they get mad when they die and don't understand why there godly armor means nothing. it's just for looks
lishi
like i said and someone said after me ...
why you complain?
You think like those ranked guy are stupid elitist guys so since they dont spam chat with unpleasant word why you bother just make your own group and play.
Or you are jealous of them?
why you complain?
You think like those ranked guy are stupid elitist guys so since they dont spam chat with unpleasant word why you bother just make your own group and play.
Or you are jealous of them?
zelira
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lasher Dragon
"I'm a Raging Drunk Who Has Stumbled Into 90% of Tyria"
Off topic, I really want that title on my monk.
Back on topic, I wouldn't worry about those looking for rank 3, 8, or 56. I don't stay in town long enough to see the "GLF rank 3 whatever for whatever quest" or "Rank 6 whatever LFG for stuff to do". Go with people you know or substitute with henchies, at least that way you know what to expect.
Back on topic, I wouldn't worry about those looking for rank 3, 8, or 56. I don't stay in town long enough to see the "GLF rank 3 whatever for whatever quest" or "Rank 6 whatever LFG for stuff to do". Go with people you know or substitute with henchies, at least that way you know what to expect.
Akaraxle
As a rule of thumb, a regular GW player who's gone through PvE at least once, experienced some high-end content, and dove into some HA/GvG up to getting rank 3/6, will most likely be an excellent addition to a PvE team. No matter how much millions of xp your average farmer has: that "PvPer" will find monster AI pretty basic and, unless you require him some kind of specific task (e.g. 55'ing) he'll perform well in any situation.
But please pay attention to what comes in my sentence before "getting to rank 3/6": that's what matters the most, since rank itself nowadays means very little (HA's a joke lately). Asking for titles or rank in PvE is highly despicable (and I don't like it in PvP either), as you can easily determine if someone is a good player by simply talking to him.
But please pay attention to what comes in my sentence before "getting to rank 3/6": that's what matters the most, since rank itself nowadays means very little (HA's a joke lately). Asking for titles or rank in PvE is highly despicable (and I don't like it in PvP either), as you can easily determine if someone is a good player by simply talking to him.
A??rendil
They probally think it's cool to boast about. Yes, i do think you will get a better team if you ask +3 ranks on your team. No, i don't like this idea, because there also a lot good players without ranks, that can't play in such teams. Also i think there is nothing wrong to play with socalled n00bs. Try to be a teacher to them. Tell them how things are to be done. Now if these beginners are actually also retarted then just .. give up on them.. :X
lennymon
Its been my experience that the higher the rank in tombs/HA the less patience is there for pve - note this does not equal low skill...it means lack of interest. This is 100% fine, respect for going the distance through what I consider drudgery. More power to you all, especially when you win us favor
There IS however the corps of ebay ranked 'elite'... and those that got it themselves by doing one build over and over...proves nothing except that you like to hurt yourself or have more money than sense. If you NEED rank to do pve? you clearly have some 'issues' that cannot be solved by the almighty emote. Just my $0.02.
I left a skill capping group once after the 'leader' a curses Necro who litterally demanded that I bring natures renewal and then bitched me out for 'messing him up' and the flashed his shiny new bambi - I regrouped with the other 6 players and out we went again.
There IS however the corps of ebay ranked 'elite'... and those that got it themselves by doing one build over and over...proves nothing except that you like to hurt yourself or have more money than sense. If you NEED rank to do pve? you clearly have some 'issues' that cannot be solved by the almighty emote. Just my $0.02.
I left a skill capping group once after the 'leader' a curses Necro who litterally demanded that I bring natures renewal and then bitched me out for 'messing him up' and the flashed his shiny new bambi - I regrouped with the other 6 players and out we went again.
Dzan
I don't normally advertise my rank when trying to get a group but look at it this way...
You zone into a district and see if you can get a group with your A/W or rt/mo. Looking around you see there are 20 other A/W in the district and 10 more rt/mo. Aside from these two classes there are 2 W/Mo and 1 monk and a random Ele. You chances of getting a good balanced group is slight.
What can you do to set yourself apart from all the other A/W LFG? Well if you are Rank 6, that certainly helps. It simply helps to get noticed and get groups faster.
From another perspective. You are a level 20 monk/mesmer. You zone into Vizunah Square and get bombarded by 20,000 invites. You realize the easiest way to get a good group is to form one yourself. You say, "Monk Starting Group LF Everything." Instantly 15 A/W want to join your group. Who are you going to take your chance with? The guildless A/W, or the rank 9 A/W from a top guild? I think that choice is pretty simply as to who I'd take.
For all the people complaining about people advertising their rank, I assume if you were highly ranked, you would advertise it to get groups too.
You zone into a district and see if you can get a group with your A/W or rt/mo. Looking around you see there are 20 other A/W in the district and 10 more rt/mo. Aside from these two classes there are 2 W/Mo and 1 monk and a random Ele. You chances of getting a good balanced group is slight.
What can you do to set yourself apart from all the other A/W LFG? Well if you are Rank 6, that certainly helps. It simply helps to get noticed and get groups faster.
From another perspective. You are a level 20 monk/mesmer. You zone into Vizunah Square and get bombarded by 20,000 invites. You realize the easiest way to get a good group is to form one yourself. You say, "Monk Starting Group LF Everything." Instantly 15 A/W want to join your group. Who are you going to take your chance with? The guildless A/W, or the rank 9 A/W from a top guild? I think that choice is pretty simply as to who I'd take.
For all the people complaining about people advertising their rank, I assume if you were highly ranked, you would advertise it to get groups too.
A??rendil
sure you would use it, but would the same person demand from his fellow members to have that same rank also? Not for me, for you?
lennymon
anything sets you apart is cool, but there are those that go the extra step and attempt to set themselves above just because of rank. It proves what in halls? and less than that in pve, a rank 0 who knows the mission is infinitely more valuable in a mission group than a rank 12 who is only doing the game for unlocks and couldnt care less. But that DOES go both ways.
This IS all old news tho. Thankfully the A/W overabundance is getting better (less) everyday also.
sotodefonk
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tromador
Viewpoint A:
mmm.. yes... let's all be elitist and never have a newbie in our PUG, after all, we don't want our lovely game polluted by new blood - we've all got everything we need here nicely sorted and happy. New players are the bane of Guildwars and thus must be discouraged. If we only recruit guildies with fame, only pvp with famous players and now finally, only pve with famous players, we will surely ensure that this dangerous influx of new players will end.
Viewpoint B:
Well, there's a lot of experienced PvE players who never set foot in an arena. Anyway, the game is about having fun with people and it is only a game. If you get stuck with the archetypal "lame rushing noob", well it doesn't happen often and if it's a genuine noob (not just a poor player) then a bit of advice will help your group, help the newbie and perhaps net you a useful addition to your online contacts and maybe even guild in the long term.
I think I'll just start advertising as follows:
LFP 4 mission. Sense of humour, tolerance and common decency required. I agree with you 100%. If we don't help the new players this game is going to be dead soon. The new blood is going to get bored because nobody wants to form a team.
mmm.. yes... let's all be elitist and never have a newbie in our PUG, after all, we don't want our lovely game polluted by new blood - we've all got everything we need here nicely sorted and happy. New players are the bane of Guildwars and thus must be discouraged. If we only recruit guildies with fame, only pvp with famous players and now finally, only pve with famous players, we will surely ensure that this dangerous influx of new players will end.
Viewpoint B:
Well, there's a lot of experienced PvE players who never set foot in an arena. Anyway, the game is about having fun with people and it is only a game. If you get stuck with the archetypal "lame rushing noob", well it doesn't happen often and if it's a genuine noob (not just a poor player) then a bit of advice will help your group, help the newbie and perhaps net you a useful addition to your online contacts and maybe even guild in the long term.
I think I'll just start advertising as follows:
LFP 4 mission. Sense of humour, tolerance and common decency required. I agree with you 100%. If we don't help the new players this game is going to be dead soon. The new blood is going to get bored because nobody wants to form a team.
sedgewick
I don't bother to invite anyone that displays their Hero title in PvE.
If they're Rank elitists, then why even bother partying with them? We all know Rank means nothing in PvE, they might be worse than new players.
If they're Rank elitists, then why even bother partying with them? We all know Rank means nothing in PvE, they might be worse than new players.
MSecorsky
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dzan
From another perspective. You are a level 20 monk/mesmer. You zone into Vizunah Square and get bombarded by 20,000 invites. You realize the easiest way to get a good group is to form one yourself. You say, "Monk Starting Group LF Everything." Instantly 15 A/W want to join your group. Who are you going to take your chance with? The guildless A/W, or the rank 9 A/W from a top guild? I think that choice is pretty simply as to who I'd take.
Obviously the non-ranked PvE player that knows aggro, PvE skill sets and the like over the ranked PvPer (and PvE noob) that doesn't remember what that circle means or why his skills aren't the best in the current situation.
Right?
Am I right?
Right?
Am I right?
lennymon
This is obviously the same thing, reverse rank discrimination heh... yet even more pointless. Someone has a sense of humor, invite, cool armor dye job? invite, its EXACTLY the same as an emote (emote spammage is a lil different imo) something to set yourself apart from the crowd.
'two wrongs don't make a right, but 3 lefts do'
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Originally Posted by sedgewick
'two wrongs don't make a right, but 3 lefts do'
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I don't bother to invite anyone that displays their Hero title in PvE.
If they're Rank elitists, then why even bother partying with them? We all know Rank means nothing in PvE, they might be worse than new players.
If they're Rank elitists, then why even bother partying with them? We all know Rank means nothing in PvE, they might be worse than new players.