Guild Wars Chapter III Info + Concept Art

Tr0n

Tr0n

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2005

Maribor, Slovenia

Strah in Trepet

http://exe.gotfrag.com/portal/story/32496/?spage=2

Quote removed, that's copyrighted material.

Concept art: http://www.intothepixel.com/view-art.php?year=2006 (Nr. 7 from top)

RTSFirebat

RTSFirebat

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Join Date: May 2005

UK

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2nd link doesn't really lead to any pictures, could you give a more direct link.

Interesting info, but till I see A.net give any updates I'm considering if only speculation. But nevertheless my best guess is chapter3 will be located North of Kryta, beyond the great lake.

Guess we have to wait a bit longer before we get a chance to crush the Charr.

Tr0n

Tr0n

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Join Date: Feb 2005

Maribor, Slovenia

Strah in Trepet

Direct link for the concept art.

http://www.intothepixel.com/content/...34d9c30d53.jpg

The info is from E3, where they show Chapter III under closed doors.

RTSFirebat

RTSFirebat

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Join Date: May 2005

UK

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tr0n
Direct link for the concept art.

http://www.intothepixel.com/content/...34d9c30d53.jpg

And this is confirmed info from E3, where they show Chapter III under closed doors.
ah right THAT picture.

Yes I said that a while ago and wondered about it. Hopefully chapter 3 will be something new and fresh, chapter 2 was somewhat samely.

Not sure what to make of these floating cities.

Diablo???

Diablo???

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Seattle

SPQR

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Good stuff. I'll be seeing it at E3 tomorrow maybe..

Tr0n

Tr0n

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Cool. Post some screenshost and a preview if you can.

Manic Smile

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I wanna E3

Snowman

Snowman

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

Wales, UK

Devils Scorpions

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by RTSFirebat
Hopefully chapter 3 will be something new and fresh, chapter 2 was somewhat samely.
Yea, 16 player missions, 12vs12 battles, the controling of territories, high-score challenge missions, repeatable quests, two new proffesions, Jade sea's, petrified forests, built up cities, swarms of monsters which explode on death... all very similar to Chapter 1.

RTSFirebat

RTSFirebat

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Join Date: May 2005

UK

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Snowman
Yea, 16 player missions, 12vs12 battles, the controling of territories, high-score challenge missions, repeatable quests, two new proffesions, Jade sea's, petrified forests, built up cities, swarms of monsters which explode on death... all very similar to Chapter 1.
  • 16 Missions - shame the story was weak, less then chapter 1
  • The controling of territories - Shame you have to farm faction to have any hope of having them. But the 8v8 battles can be fun.
  • High-score challenge missions - That only 1% of the whole game population have access to at the time
  • Jade sea's, petrified forests - These were nice, but just eye candy
  • Built up cities - Slum areas are annoying and again just eye candy
  • Swarms of monsters which explode on death - Death Nova from Chapter 1? Again nothing really new. AI still acts the same.
Sorry to paint a negative picture, but for me Chapter 2 didn't really add anything majorly new to the gameplay. But that is for a dicusssion in another forum.

Daemon Dremora

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Join Date: Jul 2005

Millington, TN

Seele Erntemaschine {Nein}

OMG i so wish i was going to E3. but yes i actually like factions. no matter how many people complain about it.....but i do hope Chapter 3 delivers more. but argh i cant wait. i want all of the guildwars chapters now....every last one of them.....i dont know why but i have never really been this excited about any game ever....any time i the word guildwars comes to my head it makes me think about what they are going to do with the new chapters.... i am so hyper right now and i really have no idea why...

Alex Weekes

Alex Weekes

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2005

Brighton, UK

Quote:
Originally Posted by RTSFirebat
  • High-score challenge missions - That only 1% of the whole game population have access to at the time
Actually, these are available to everyone . The first one you'll find in the game is Dragon's Throat and there are more as your progress.

DJ Josh

DJ Josh

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex Weekes
Actually, these are available to everyone . The first one you'll find in the game is Dragon's Throat and there are more as your progress.
i think it clear that RTS was refering to the extremely limited access on the elite missions.

Rancour

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Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

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I'm a free spirit (that's not what the guild is called, I just am)

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So, Alex. Is there any truth to these assumptions on Chapter 3? Are we gonna be seeing Afflicted Camels and Dredge Rhinos in the next installment of Guildwars?

fallot

I'm the king

Join Date: Nov 2005

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That floating mosque is the coolest thing I've ever seen since Chapter 1 concept art.

Tuoba Hturt Eht

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Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

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Quote:
Originally Posted by RTSFirebat
High-score challenge missions - That only 1% of the whole game population have access to at the time
- Dragon's Throat
Kurzick
- Altrumm Ruins
- Amatz Basin
Luxon
- Zos Shivros Channel
- The Aurios Mines

These are called "Challenge Missions", they are not "Elite Missions" where "only 1% of the whole game population have access to at the time".


"High Score" because the scores of the teams who did their best are recorded down.
- Daily Best
- Montly Best
- All Time Best

Makkert

Makkert

Black Beast of Aarrrrgghh

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

The Biggyverse [PLEB] // Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

Quote:
Originally Posted by RTSFirebat
  • 16 Missions - shame the story was weak, less then chapter 1
  • Personally, I found the storyline stronger then Chapter 1.

    I mean, escaping from Ascalon. ok.
    Wait, suddenly we are helping the White Mantle? eh...ok?
    Wait wait, no, White Mantles are baddies. let's help Shining Blade. eh ok?
    Ehm, so let's slay Glint. Yes, the one that helps us. That makes sense.
    .......
    Compared to that, I found Ch.2's storyline quite nicely, with nice flashbacks.

    Quote:
  • The controling of territories - Shame you have to farm faction to have any hope of having them. But the 8v8 battles can be fun.
  • Yes, so let's see...You miss.....fireworks!
    The thought of not having fireworks is unbareable. Sorry, it is nice recognition for the top pve alliances, but it's all that. What's wrong with recognition? You hardly are missing anything here. Probably fireworks are tradeble, so that is also passible.

    Quote:
  • High-score challenge missions - That only 1% of the whole game population have access to at the time
  • assuming you meant the Elite Missions.
    Yes, that is a bit limited...
    From what I hear: just chucked up with monsters, so-so drops. What are we missing here? I might be a pvp player mostly, but the only thing I can see of wanting this, is having another challenge.
    Is it true that if you join a controlling alliance's party, you can enter? If so, with effort possible. I can understand why it upsets players, but everyone wanted a way for pve-ers to distinguish themselves...so they gave it to you?

    Quote:
  • Jade sea's, petrified forests - These were nice, but just eye candy
  • Built up cities - Slum areas are annoying and again just eye candy
  • Swarms of monsters which explode on death - Death Nova from Chapter 1? Again nothing really new. AI still acts the same.
Yes AI the same. Except we have more henchies to choose from, the monsters have different skills. Did you expect anything else?

Quote:
Sorry to paint a negative picture, but for me Chapter 2 didn't really add anything majorly new to the gameplay. But that is for a dicusssion in another forum.
- alliance battles
- challenge missions
- alliance forming
- random 8v8
- guildscrimmages
- faster skillpoint acquisition (sp?) [missions, elite 5k bonus]
- better replay incentive pve missions with beginner-experienced-veteran status
- titles
- 16 player pve missions (altough they often are just a big Henchman party)

Personally, I think they did a fine job with Factions.
Sorry to paint a positive picture, but I didn't set high hopes for myself, so it was easy to surpass my hopes and made me overall quite happy with Factions.

I can see why some players are disappointed with certain things (personally the strict implementation of alliancechat), but overall its too harsh to say they didn't add anything major to the game.


my 2 cents,

Makkert

RTSFirebat

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Join Date: May 2005

UK

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuoba Hturt Eht
- Dragon's Throat
Kurzick
- Altrumm Ruins
- Amatz Basin
Luxon
- Zos Shivros Channel
- The Aurios Mines

These are called "Challenge Missions", they are not "Elite Missions" where "only 1% of the whole game population have access to at the time".

"High Score" because the scores of the teams who did their best are recorded down.
- Daily Best
- Montly Best
- All Time Best
Ok stop carrying on, I was talking about the Elite missions, not the Challenge ones... no need for the guide to the missions, I understand them already.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Makkert
Personally, I found the storyline stronger then Chapter 1.

I mean, escaping from Ascalon. ok.
Wait, suddenly we are helping the White Mantle? eh...ok?
Wait wait, no, White Mantles are baddies. let's help Shining Blade. eh ok?
Ehm, so let's slay Glint. Yes, the one that helps us. That makes sense.
.......
Compared to that, I found Ch.2's storyline quite nicely, with nice flashbacks.

Yes, so let's see...You miss.....fireworks!
The thought of not having fireworks is unbareable. Sorry, it is nice recognition for the top pve alliances, but it's all that. What's wrong with recognition? You hardly are missing anything here. Probably fireworks are tradeble, so that is also passible.

assuming you meant the Elite Missions.
Yes, that is a bit limited...
From what I hear: just chucked up with monsters, so-so drops. What are we missing here? I might be a pvp player mostly, but the only thing I can see of wanting this, is having another challenge.
Is it true that if you join a controlling alliance's party, you can enter? If so, with effort possible. I can understand why it upsets players, but everyone wanted a way for pve-ers to distinguish themselves...so they gave it to you?

Yes AI the same. Except we have more henchies to choose from, the monsters have different skills. Did you expect anything else?

- alliance battles
- challenge missions
- alliance forming
- random 8v8
- guildscrimmages
- faster skillpoint acquisition (sp?) [missions, elite 5k bonus]
- better replay incentive pve missions with beginner-experienced-veteran status
- titles
- 16 player pve missions (altough they often are just a big Henchman party)

Personally, I think they did a fine job with Factions.
Sorry to paint a positive picture, but I didn't set high hopes for myself, so it was easy to surpass my hopes and made me overall quite happy with Factions.

I can see why some players are disappointed with certain things (personally the strict implementation of alliancechat), but overall its too harsh to say they didn't add anything major to the game.


my 2 cents,

Makkert
Well..

Flashbacks are confusing, always have been when use in any story.

Fireworks aren't tradeable and are very shortlived... wish they were tradeable.

Elites Missions is what I was refering to, and they are limited and not matter how you put it, I would like to have a go at them. Shame none of the current alliances wish to share.

New battle system while good and fun are just another form of GvG once you look at the core dynamics. Guild Scrimmages is for Chapter 1 and 2. Replaying quests is interesting, at first.

And getting skillpoints is all good and fine, but skills still cost me 1K each now, gold rewards are still too low.

I still find farming skills in Chapter 1 faster by just running quests quickly.

In short...

You seems to think I dislike Factions, that is far from the truth, I like it a lot. But to consider it a standalone game is rubbish, it feels and plays like an expansion.

Snowman

Snowman

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

Wales, UK

Devils Scorpions

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Regardless of if you liked or disliked factions (Which I still argue is way to early to presume) Factions is still VERY different to prophecies!!

How you can say they are similar is preposterous.

Tetris L

Tetris L

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

Germany

Servants of Fortuna

Hmmm ... what could have been a nice collection of info about chapter 3 turns into a discussion about chapter 2. Can't you guys stick to the subject?

RTSFirebat

RTSFirebat

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Join Date: May 2005

UK

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tetris L
Hmmm ... what could have been a nice collection of info about chapter 3 turns into a discussion about chapter 2. Can't you guys stick to the subject?
I didn't change the subject, all I said I hope chapter 3 isn't samey...

Anyways yes back on topic...

My best guess is new area will be north of Kryta, it can't be north of Ascalon since the Charr lands would most likely but a wasteland.

Maybe in Chapter 4 we'll be able to take the fight back to the charr!

Nevin

Nevin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2005

Based off of "North African" I'm assuming one of the new professions will be a javelin wielder, with maybe a large shield? Like an amazon. (Remember old fashion tribes in Africa use hand made spears/shields when hunting game or fighting)

Yichi

Yichi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Guild Hall, Vent, Guesting, PvE, or the occasional HA match...

Dark Alley [dR]

The only thing with the elite missions is this, they are the only ones who have control over the territory atm. everyone wants the newest rarest items in the game which at the moment = zodiac and a few others, so why give up control of your wealth? its like cutting your own throat. im not in one of those aliances, but i understand why its like that and everyone needs to realize 1 thing, not everyone will have an opportunity at having the very best in life.

Tr0n

Tr0n

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2005

Maribor, Slovenia

Strah in Trepet

Quote:
Originally Posted by RTSFirebat
Maybe in Chapter 4 we'll be able to take the fight back to the charr!
By the way things are going now, I hope there will be no C4.

A??rendil

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

WotU

R/Rt

what a noncense, i'm still playing factions. And yes i do not like certain things but i think it was worth my money. I really like the concept of guildwars, much better in my eyes then WoW. But that concept art with the floating cities/buildings is definity VERY cool.

Sagaris

Sagaris

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Netherlands.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Makkert
Personally, I found the storyline stronger then Chapter 1.

I mean, escaping from Ascalon. ok.
Wait, suddenly we are helping the White Mantle? eh...ok?
Wait wait, no, White Mantles are baddies. let's help Shining Blade. eh ok?
Ehm, so let's slay Glint. Yes, the one that helps us. That makes sense.
.......
Compared to that, I found Ch.2's storyline quite nicely, with nice flashbacks.
Rofl! You just made me spit out my food.. bastard!

LordMahal

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

Germany

R/Mo

Uh, Factions is an incomplete game... how about Alex and the rest of the so called masterminds fix that first, then work on other things. Makes me sick to see that a new chapter is in the mix when the second one isnt done. Did you all not learn anything here? The third will be worse than this as far as content goes, and even less complete. How many times do you have to touch a hot stove before you understand you are getting burned... for me just once. We can forget about the Charr, by the time they get back to that the original players of prophecies will have long since stopped playing. And you cant have Amazons in north africa, they are in south america.

TimberOwl

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by LordMahal
Uh, Factions is an incomplete game... how about Alex and the rest of the so called masterminds fix that first, then work on other things. Makes me sick to see that a new chapter is in the mix when the second one isnt done. Did you all not learn anything here? The third will be worse than this as far as content goes, and even less complete. How many times do you have to touch a hot stove before you understand you are getting burned... for me just once. We can forget about the Charr, by the time they get back to that the original players of prophecies will have long since stopped playing. And you cant have Amazons in north africa, they are in south america.
Hehe, to right my friend, tooooo right.

Im a little shocked that they are starting the next one, i know it takes along time to develop... But what impression are they trying to make on us?

One of these days, there will be nothing left for them to develop.. The only thing left for them to make a game out of will be zooming the world 3000+ years into the future and giving us all plasma guns of fortitude..

Its a bit sad.

Caelus The Fallen

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Glasgow

Voice of the Darkness

E/Mo

Fpr those of you who have been sittingin a cave. On Mars. With your eyes close. Oh, and your fingers in your ears:
Its no surprise that they are starting on chapter 3, given that the announced that ch3 was started 6 months ago. ANet has 2 development teams developing in 1 years cycles staggered by 6 months; by the launch of ch2 you would expect ch3 to be half done. Moreover, work on ch3 isnt taking away from work on ch2 since its a different development team.

Silent Coyote

Silent Coyote

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

UK

E/N

They aren't starting on a new one (unless you mean chp 4) they have been working on chp3 since november - its a bit late for them to stop and fix percived problems with chp2 don't you think?

They made it pretty clear since the start this is the way it would be, a new chapter every few(6) months. I guess most of you werent paying attention or something.

Tr0n

Tr0n

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2005

Maribor, Slovenia

Strah in Trepet

Last info is they are already in plan and design stages of C4.

I personaly think that's a bad idea. GW was fun while it lasted.

It's time to move on.

Blitzy

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

Destiny Forsaken

Mo/W

When's Diablo 3 out?

fallot

I'm the king

Join Date: Nov 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nevin
Based off of "North African" I'm assuming one of the new professions will be a javelin wielder, with maybe a large shield? Like an amazon. (Remember old fashion tribes in Africa use hand made spears/shields when hunting game or fighting)
Africa is a big place. You need a history lesson . Somehow I cant envisage spear-weilding tribes in Morocco.

Vaga

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by RTSFirebat

Flashbacks are confusing, always have been when use in any story.

Fireworks aren't tradeable and are very shortlived... wish they were tradeable.

Elites Missions is what I was refering to, and they are limited and not matter how you put it, I would like to have a go at them. Shame none of the current alliances wish to share.

New battle system while good and fun are just another form of GvG once you look at the core dynamics. Guild Scrimmages is for Chapter 1 and 2. Replaying quests is interesting, at first.

And getting skillpoints is all good and fine, but skills still cost me 1K each now, gold rewards are still too low.

I still find farming skills in Chapter 1 faster by just running quests quickly.

In short...
Flashbacks aren't confusing at all, you probably weren't paying attention at the beginning or somthing.

Your fireworks idea? what would be the point of trading them?

Funny that you say none of the current alliances wish to share, when the alliance owning HzH has been guesting people to the elite mission for the past week.

Going through the game on a tyria character took me about a week, and during that time I acquired 70 skill points, thats a lot for just breezing through the game without doing many quests. In chapt 1 it would take you probably a month to get that many if you were just farming them.

Also, leveling up is much less tedious, you can get to level 20 in just over a few hours.

Everyone knew elite missions would only be available to the top alliances before factions came out anyway, which is what seems to upset you the most.

GranDeWun

GranDeWun

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

I'm certain each chapter will follow the pattern of Ch2 - a new continent, with a starter area and an entry port, which you reach via ship. Keeps the mechanics clean for those with different chapters unlocked.

If Ch3 has an arab-y OR ancient egyptian theme (or both!), I'll be happy.

Snowman

Snowman

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

Wales, UK

Devils Scorpions

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tr0n
Last info is they are already in plan and design stages of C4.

I personaly think that's a bad idea. GW was fun while it lasted.

It's time to move on.
You may think its a bad idea, however it was the ORIGINAL Idea!.. they originally planned to release short expansion-type updates 'regularly' as that fell completly off track and have basically decided to make Factions one BIG release only now are they back on track.

So actually Guildwars, really, is only just starting!

I dont expect Chapter 3 to be a completly new land like factions is, not at all, rather it will be a much smaller expansion.

No game ever sufferd from too many expansions, rather, the more expansions and the more content they get the better they become!.. you've only got to take a look at Eve-Online, CoH, WoW, NwN... they continue to be popular, where as the games which decline and grow old are those which stop their expansions to work on other games/projects!...

LONG LIVE GUILDWARS!!!

Hip hip....

Alex Weekes

Alex Weekes

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2005

Brighton, UK

Firstly, RTS - Just wanted to note that my earlierpost re: Challenge missions was only made to ensure that no one became confused about access to these missions. Glad you're enjoying the game .

As for the new campaign ... well, you're just going to have to wait and see. I've seen a lot of it as a work in progress, and it's looking amazing. I'm teasing, I know, but you'll just have to wait a little longer for full details. When those details are announced, though, I think you'll find much of your feedback has been addressed .

GUE Tech

GUE Tech

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex Weekes
I think you'll find much of your feedback has been addressed .
Thank You.

jackie

jackie

/retired

Join Date: Dec 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Snowman
No game ever sufferd from too many expansions, rather, the more expansions and the more content they get the better they become!.. you've only got to take a look at Eve-Online, CoH, WoW, NwN... they continue to be popular, where as the games which decline and grow old are those which stop their expansions to work on other games/projects!...

LONG LIVE GUILDWARS!!!

Hip hip....
/amen to that.

GloryFox

GloryFox

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Good ol' USA, where everyone else wants to be

Now Plays World of Warcraft on Whisperwind

Quote:
Firstly, RTS - Just wanted to note that my earlierpost re: Challenge missions was only made to ensure that no one became confused about access to these missions. Glad you're enjoying the game .
Yes Alex

Let us not be confused about the less then 1% game base who can enjoy "ELITE" missions. While the remaining 99% game base should just be satisfied with the challenge TIMED missions.

BTW: I do love the Ritualist class and I hope I can see a Spear wielding native of some kind if you do go the African route.

pbspectre

pbspectre

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

Oral's Chosen

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex Weekes
When those details are announced, though, I think you'll find much of your feedback has been addressed .
so, is this a "OMG Chapter3 will rawk!!" statement or a "Sorry you aren't happy with a lot of Chapter 2, wait 'til next time" statement?

btw: i'm not being belligerent, i'm just wondering...