100% Canthan Map Discussion and Help
Leighwyn
Go to post #24, Livingston. I could maybe edit one of my posts on page one and put it in there.
Xeno Breaker
99.2% and i am stuck, any help is appreciated. Also the map with 100% cantha by tryia dosent have some aread uncovered, which i am using as a reference.
Leighwyn
Yea, I haven't updated it in like a month...but finally have my PC back and will be doing it this weekend.
JMFD
Thanks for advice all. Using a combination of the zoomed out map/photoshop for larger areas, then Leighwyn's full zoomed map comparioson to find out what actually it was in those areas I was missing, I managed to get Grandmastery without bugging anyone.
Chalk up another Elementalist to the dual protectors and dual grandmasters society
Chalk up another Elementalist to the dual protectors and dual grandmasters society
woundedfighter
98.4... anyone wana go at it?
(previous post was never answered..)
(previous post was never answered..)
Dreikki
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99.2% and i am stuck, any help is appreciated. Also the map with 100% cantha by tryia dosent have some aread uncovered, which i am using as a reference.
Talk to the arena guy in Shing Jea monastery. He should take you to the arena. You seem to be missing it. You will get a few 0.*s out of it but you can't enter the arena to have a fight, so you're missing a little bit.
Talk to the arena guy in Shing Jea monastery. He should take you to the arena. You seem to be missing it. You will get a few 0.*s out of it but you can't enter the arena to have a fight, so you're missing a little bit.
Shyft the Pyro
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(previous post was never answered..)
Quote: Originally Posted by Tamer Of Souls Phew, allright, I have a new map... probably my 10th of the same character by now. I really hope this will be the last one and the very one which will grant me 100% You're still missing:
-NE corner of Bejunkan Pier;
-NE corner of Imperial Sanctum mission (banishment path);
-SE corner of Undercity;
-a spot SW of Zin Ku Corridor outpost (uncover from inside the outpost);
-SW corner of Nahpui Quarter explorable;
-the farmland spot east of Maatu Keep;
-north wall of Boreas Seabed outpost;
-center of Boreas Seabed explorable;
-south wall of Archipelagos;
-west wall, east wall and SE corner of Jade Quarry battle area;
-east wall of Fort Aspenwood battle area;
-NE corner of Aurios Mines battle area;
-center of Rhea's Crater;
-east wall of Unwaking Waters explorable;
-north wall of Morostav Trail;
-SW corner of Amatz Basin outpost;
-west wall of Drazach Thicket;
-east wall of Melandru's Hope;
-NW corner of Arborstone explorable (top level);
-north wall of Jaya Bluffs.
Quote: Originally Posted by CorstedPirate Say, I am not sure if this has been covered exactly. Just how much is actually in the Jade Quarry % wise? I'm at 97.4% and have not ever managed to enter that mission. I am hoping that doing so would help me finish up. Not even close. At the most generous detailed exploration, Jade Quarry will net you 0.5%. For details, see my explanation of that earlier in the thread. As illustrated by someone else earlier in the thread, you could potentially obtain the Grandmaster Cartographer title without ever entering the Jade Quarry battle area, but it would take a lot of clearing up the loose spots in other areas.
At 97% you should still be missing large pieces in other areas though. Compare your map to Leighwyn's using his ALT+TAB method posted on page 2 of this thread to locate them.
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Ooohhhhh my turn my turn. Here is the mystery spot that everyone seems to have but that refuses to reveal itself to me
Leighwyn, could you please provide the "revealed" version of that spot? I don't see what you're missing there.
I highly recommend coming to Jade Quarry in the evenings or on the weekends, when population there increases. Kurzick side is chronically underpopulated, so it might be best to start there and shout for more Luxons to move over from the Luxon side of Fort Aspenwood by telling them a Kurzick team is waiting. Please avoid mapping and leaving, though, as that is one of the reasons people don't like coming back to Jade Quarry.
I've previously posted The Winner's Guide to Jade Quarry on these forums. It can help you figure out what to expect once you do make it in, so please give it a read.
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Originally Posted by Livingston
I believe I have cleared all of Shing Jea Island except I'm not too sure if I've actually gotten one little piece.
In the future, please try to provide bigger screenshots and use the "U" window instead of the overview map so it's easier to compare your screenshots with Leighwyn's map. The particular piece you're pointing towards looks clear, but I can't be absolutely sure since the shadows on the overview map often obscure details.Quote:
You should read this thread more closely. All mission areas except for Dragon's Throat count towards the Cartography title. There is, however, some leeway built into the title, so you could achieve it without mapping Jade Quarry as someone has demonstrated a few pages back. It would just mean having to scrape every little bit you can out of all the other areas.|
Originally Posted by LethaL ImpuLse
Well.. I did get 2 of the spots I was missing, but that still leaves me at 99.8%
You're still missing:
-east side of Minister Cho's Estate explorable (one spot NE of mission marker); -west and east walls of Haiju Lagoon; -NE corner of Bejunkan Pier; -north wall of Imperial Sanctum mission (banishment path); -south wall of Dragon's Throat outpost (uncover from outside the outpost); -NW corner, NE corner and east wall of Tahnnakai Temple explorable; -SE corner of Undercity; -SW corner of Wajjun Bazaar; -SE corner of Nahpui Quarter mission; -the farmland spot east of Maatu Keep; -south wall of Pongmei Valley; -west wall and SE corner of Arborstone explorable; -north wall of Ferndale; -NE corner of Fort Aspenwood battle area; -NW corner of Drazach Thicket; -SW corner of Amatz Basin outpost; -SE corner of Amatz Basin battle area; -NE corner of Mourning Veil Falls; -SE corner of Unwaking Waters mission; -SE and NW corners of Jade Quarry battle area. You can easily pick up all you're missing in the Tahnnakai Temple explorable. obsidian shard
http://www.fly-onfire.co.uk/images/shard100cantha.jpg - just over a mb in size!
hey guys, seeing a lot of hints and helps on this site, but im struggling at 93% with a tyrian mesmer, and cant find anymore, i'd love help and advice! if you can help i'd appreciate it, ill tip anyone whos willing to help me get my last 7% ... my ign is - I Obsidian Shard I - professionals only plz! <3 very interesting thread
RoadKill97
I just got the title for my Monk fairly over an hour ago.
I have a hint for you cartographers! I assume everyone can tell the difference between the light fog, which can be uncovered and the heavy fog, which can't be uncovered. Well the thing is that often the heavy fog also counts for the title even though you won't reveal any more map. I got last 0.3% by testing this theory in outposts. So my advice is to scrape every wall, corner and edge if they have any kind of fog next to them.
Bane of Worlds
yes, finally got that 100% after exploring every single area again
 the map analysis would have helped me save time    
Monkey Blonde
I'm at 98% and I can't figure out how to clear the "farmland" east of Maatu Keep. Also, when you get banished by Shiro, where do you end up ? I just tried that mission and actually was lucky enough to get banished.... for about 4 seconds as the rest of my team killed something to bring me back. Before I could figure out where to go, I was back - lol. So, any suggestion here would also be appreciated.
Poison Ivy
Alright, I retook some U shotties, here they are.
City http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...ot911/city.jpg Jea http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...oot911/jea.jpg Maatu Crossroads http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...tuforstsea.jpg Sea http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...911/sea1-1.jpg http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...911/sea2-1.jpg Forest http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1.../forest1-1.jpg http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1.../forest2-1.jpg And there ya go. LethaL ImpuLse
w00t! Just got my grandmaster title! Big thanks to shyft, couldn't of gotten those last few tenths without ya.
MasterZ
Thanks all for the fantastic maps, and especially Shyft the Pyro, who possessed the eyes of an eagle's, sharp enough to get the final 0.x percent of unrevealed bits. U are truly a Cathan GREATgrandmaster cartographer. All the best to all who is trying to get this awesome title.
woundedfighter
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Originally Posted by Shyft the Pyro
The only person who has compared full-scale Canthan maps in this thread is Dougal. If you want him to compare yours, I would advise first to take a "clean" screenshot of the map, removing all the markers by holding SHIFT as you press PRINT SCREEN.
k i pm'd him recently hes been workin on it but he ran into a prob at home lol.
also... uhm ive been using Shife Print Screen but it dosent remove the markers for sum reason .... SoadLink
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ok i didnt fully read the previous posts, i guess zoomed out maps are no longer clear enough to compare -_-. hmm... ill post back if i need help again, but leiweigh's (sorry if i spelt your name wrong) method of alt+tabbing seems to be working good for me. 99.0% now. stupid jade quarry could probably bump me to 99.4
Livingston
Hey guys.
I believe I have cleared all of Shing Jea Island except I'm not too sure if I've actually gotten one little piece. When I compare maps it looks like the 100% has this part clearer, but I'm not really sure. If it is clearer I have no idea how you would clear it, so I could use some help. Is it clear or do I need to do more? Map Also do you need to enter the jade quarry mission and fort aspenwood to clear the areas or is it enough to clear the outpost? Thank you, Livingston Monkey Blonde
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Originally Posted by Monkey Blonde
I'm at 98% and I can't figure out how to clear the "farmland" east of Maatu Keep. Also, when you get banished by Shiro, where do you end up ? I just tried that mission and actually was lucky enough to get banished.... for about 4 seconds as the rest of my team killed something to bring me back. Before I could figure out where to go, I was back - lol. So, any suggestion here would also be appreciated.
Ok, disregard my above post.
Leighwyn, thank you for posting that map on page 1 (or 2) and for your method of alt + tab. I was able to use your map and method to find my last 1.0% and get the title. It was incredibly helpful. I was pulling my hair out trying to find spots and when I started using your method, it was quick, and very easy to find spots I needed. Now, I have only Tyrian Grandmaster Cartographer to get Kind of a Big Deal.
Livingston
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Hey guys.
I believe I have cleared all of Shing Jea Island except I'm not too sure if I've actually gotten one little piece. When I compare maps it looks like the 100% has this part clearer, but I'm not really sure. If it is clearer I have no idea how you would clear it, so I could use some help. Is it clear or do I need to do more? Map Also do you need to enter the jade quarry mission and fort aspenwood to clear the areas or is it enough to clear the outpost? Thank you, Livingston Ok, I just found TC Fish's map and compared it, and I think I have cleared it as much as I can. I'd still like to know if I have to enter the battle area in the Jade Quarry and Fort Aspenwood. Livingston SoadLink
I think we should all plan a time to meet up and start a battle for jade quarry (just for explorers). And if we dont get enough people, we could go around advertising in big places that we're starting a battle for explorers. Seems like our only hope with that one
Livingston
I've visited them a dozen times, but no one is ever around. That's why I was hoping that you wouldn't need to go inside of them...
Livingston LethaL ImpuLse
You just have to get on at the right time. I've gotten about 3 games in a row last night.
RoadKill97
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I'd still like to know if I have to enter the battle area in the Jade Quarry and Fort Aspenwood.
You'll need both if you don't have Monastery Overlook. Both The Jade Quarry and Fort Aspenwood add 0.5% to map so I recommend doing both.
For Fort Aspenwood start at the Luxon side and explore at same pace as Luxons are progressing at attacking. You'll only need to scrape the southern wall of the battle area. Everything else can be mapped from the outposts. For The Jade Quarry start at the Kurzick side if possible, because there is a small part of map to north where Kurzicks start, which seems to be possible to map only from the Kurzick starting area. The rest of The Jade Quarry can be mapped with relative ease. The hardest part is to get into TJQ.
Shyft the Pyro
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Livingston |
I highly recommend coming to Jade Quarry in the evenings or on the weekends, when population there increases. Kurzick side is chronically underpopulated, so it might be best to start there and shout for more Luxons to move over from the Luxon side of Fort Aspenwood by telling them a Kurzick team is waiting. Please avoid mapping and leaving, though, as that is one of the reasons people don't like coming back to Jade Quarry.
I've previously posted The Winner's Guide to Jade Quarry on these forums. It can help you figure out what to expect once you do make it in, so please give it a read.
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Quote: Originally Posted by SoadLink ok i didnt fully read the previous posts, i guess zoomed out maps are no longer clear enough to compare Only Dougal has compared zoomed-out maps in this thread. Comparing Canthan overview maps is harder than comparing Tyrian ones because the Canthan map is darker and does not have the same sharp contrast between fogged and cleared areas as the Tyrian one does.
Quote: Originally Posted by woundedfighter ive been using Shife Print Screen but it dosent remove the markers for sum reason The same commands might not work on different computers/accounts because your keyset might be different from mine. Please check what function each of your keys is bound to as your "clear screenshot" key may be different from mine.
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I did read a lot of it, but it is 30+ pages, so it's kind of hard to read everything and still remember every little detail you read, when it might not be pertinent to you at the time. I actually had read and remembered that bit, but I wasn't sure these areas would be counted as mission areas as you don't have to enter the area in order to complete any missions, you just talk to an NPC at the fort and you are done. |
Originally Posted by Poison Ivy
Alright, I retook some U shotties, here they are
I hate Photobucket. All your images have been resized to about 1/4 of their original size, so I can't do anything with them. Please upload them to Imageshack or another hosting site, and consider using multiple unmerged screenshots of your "U" window if your merged files exceed the size limit.
You should read this thread more closely. All mission areas except for Dragon's Throat count towards the Cartography title. There is, however, some leeway built into the title, so you could achieve it without mapping Jade Quarry as someone has demonstrated a few pages back. It would just mean having to scrape every little bit you can out of all the other areas.
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Thank you very much RoadKill.
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I highly recommend coming to Jade Quarry in the evenings or on the weekends, when population there increases. Kurzick side is chronically underpopulated, so it might be best to start there and shout for more Luxons to move over from the Luxon side of Fort Aspenwood by telling them a Kurzick team is waiting. Please avoid mapping and leaving, though, as that is one of the reasons people don't like coming back to Jade Quarry.
I've previously posted The Winner's Guide to Jade Quarry on these forums. It can help you figure out what to expect once you do make it in, so please give it a read. Evenings in what time zone and which server? I'm in Australia and on the European servers.
And I'll have a read of your guide, thanks for the link.
I've previously posted The Winner's Guide to Jade Quarry on these forums. It can help you figure out what to expect once you do make it in, so please give it a read. Evenings in what time zone and which server? I'm in Australia and on the European servers.
And I'll have a read of your guide, thanks for the link.
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Originally Posted by Shyft the Pyro
In the future, please try to provide bigger screenshots and use the "U" window instead of the overview map so it's easier to compare your screenshots with Leighwyn's map. The particular piece you're pointing towards looks clear, but I can't be absolutely sure since the shadows on the overview map often obscure details.
I was using the U window; I thought the little red dots would make that obvious.
How do you make a bigger screenshot? I took a normal screenshot and cropped the section I was referring to. What else can I do to make it bigger? Livingston SoadLink
Did it. Thanks a lot guys. I was at 99.9% and looking for another spot, started walking around... decided to open up my Titles window........ and it said 100%... so whatever
I also had Jade Quarry, and most of the Shing Jea training area though (from when the dragon festival took place). I was still missing about .1 or so from the Shing Jea training area though. This was a lot harder than the Tyrian title in my opinion (at least for a Tyrian). You really have to compare with tons of different high res maps, dont use just 1 because some people have what uncovered things that others haven't yet. Use Leighwyn's alt+tab method when comparing with those many different maps. Zoomed out comparing worked for me until about 90 - 95% when it started getting real hard to find spots, then I had to compare with high res maps. Tyrian was easier for me because i didnt need to compare with high res maps at all, zoomed out maps worked fine. Good luck to those who still needs this title, and thank you to everyone in this thread who gave tips/help on getting the title. And last but not least:
RoadKill97
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Originally Posted by SoadLink
You need to play a round as both luxon and kurzick in order to FULLY explore Jade Quarry. The main bases are guarded by guys who do 999 dmg if you enter the enemies base, so you cant explore it all in 1 go. I went from 99.0% to 99.6% with JUST jade quarry today, so it really does help.
You CAN fully explore The Jade Quarry in one go if you start at the Kurzick side. Everything you can map inside the Luzon base can also be mapped outside the base by scraping the wall.
Mournblade
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Originally Posted by Livingston
I really really appreciate you helping people with their maps, but could you please make your responses into links so they don't warp the thread?
It is so irritating having to scroll down and over to read posts. Also what's up with the quality, it mostly looks black, you can hardly see anything... The blackness is due to the difference mapping he's doing - it blacks out everything that is the same, highlighting the areas that are different. Most people said you couldn't do difference maps with Cantha, and I believed them - but Dougal has a keen eye apparently. Aw come on, a little scrolling never hurt anybody. It takes less time than exploring your own map, right? =)
Livingston
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Originally Posted by Mournblade
The blackness is due to the difference mapping he's doing - it blacks out everything that is the same, highlighting the areas that are different. Most people said you couldn't do difference maps with Cantha, and I believed them - but Dougal has a keen eye apparently.
Aw come on, a little scrolling never hurt anybody. It takes less time than exploring your own map, right? =) LOL true. But how can those be helpful when you can't see anything at all? It's too small. Or am I missing something? Livingston |
