100% Canthan Map Discussion and Help
Livingston
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Originally Posted by Shyft the Pyro
I'm now on page 19 of this thread comparing every map that someone has drawn circles on to show missing areas. I'm in the process of comparing with the maps of that one guy who had like 30 spots pointed out by Leighwyn. It's funny as in most cases when I do this the spots that are marked by one of the guys on this thread aren't the spots that I need, but my eye will pick up something else while I am comparing.
I dread to think how many little spots I have left that will make up a whole .2%, considering how many times I've tabbed between these maps, it's hard for me to believe they are all there and I simply can't see them.
Livingston
Edit: I've been looking at one spot and I thought I saw a difference between my map and Leighwyn's but then I lost it. If it's there I can't see it anymore. Maybe you guys can double check it for me.
Am I missing anything right here?
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Shyft the Pyro
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Originally Posted by Livingston
Am I missing anything right here?
Yes. It's the SW corner of Nahpui Quarter explorable, south of the ranger boss.
Incidentally, you're also missing the SE corner of Undercity and west wall of Pongmei Valley in that screenshot, both of which are easier to reach
Incidentally, you're also missing the SE corner of Undercity and west wall of Pongmei Valley in that screenshot, both of which are easier to reach
Livingston
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Originally Posted by Shyft the Pyro
Yes. It's the SW corner of Nahpui Quarter explorable, south of the ranger boss.
Incidentally, you're also missing the SE corner of Undercity and west wall of Pongmei Valley in that screenshot, both of which are easier to reach
That's weird. I don't see any differences there when I compare back and forth, but I'll head out there to see if it changes for me.
Livingston
Incidentally, you're also missing the SE corner of Undercity and west wall of Pongmei Valley in that screenshot, both of which are easier to reach
That's weird. I don't see any differences there when I compare back and forth, but I'll head out there to see if it changes for me.Livingston
Shyft the Pyro
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Originally Posted by Livingston
That's weird. I don't see any differences there when I compare back and forth, but I'll head out there to see if it changes for me.
Well the west wall of Pongmei Valley is rather minor, but I did notice you could uncover more along the west wall of Mount Quinkai and in the NW corner of Arborstone explorable. The Mount Quinkai spot is close to the Luxon Aspenwood Gate, so it's another easy bit for you to check 
Livingston
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Originally Posted by Shyft the Pyro
Well the west wall of Pongmei Valley is rather minor, but I did notice you could uncover more along the west wall of Mount Quinkai and in the NW corner of Arborstone explorable. The Mount Quinkai spot is close to the Luxon Aspenwood Gate, so it's another easy bit for you to check
By Zeus man you must have the eyes of the gods!
What resolution are you checking all this stuff with? Apparently I'm not using a high enough one.
Livingston
Edit: I checked Pongmei. It didn't give me any % but I did notice a subtle change of the fog. I have no idea how you saw that considering I took a zoomed in SS of the area before I did and compared to my zoomed in map afterwards, and I still couldn't see a difference...
With the SE area of the undercity are you referring to the dark black rectangle which has a SE corner that nearly lines up with the Northern entrance of Senji's Corner?
What resolution are you checking all this stuff with? Apparently I'm not using a high enough one.
Livingston
Edit: I checked Pongmei. It didn't give me any % but I did notice a subtle change of the fog. I have no idea how you saw that considering I took a zoomed in SS of the area before I did and compared to my zoomed in map afterwards, and I still couldn't see a difference...
With the SE area of the undercity are you referring to the dark black rectangle which has a SE corner that nearly lines up with the Northern entrance of Senji's Corner?
Shyft the Pyro
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Originally Posted by Livingston
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Originally Posted by Livingston
What resolution are you checking all this stuff with? Apparently I'm not using a high enough one.
Same resolution you used for your "map 1" screenshot. I just zoom into Leighwyn's map until both of them are at equal zoom, which is 90% in my Microsoft Digital Image Viewer. Then I line them up by moving Leighwyn's map until a zone point marker on one map matches the same marker on another. Preferably, the zone marker should be off-center so that the ALT+TAB pop-up menu doesn't obscure it. Once the two windows are lined up, I either ALT+TAB between them or (more likely) move my mouse down to the taskbar and click first one then the other in rapid succession. I find that this way I can check the center of the screenshot as well since it doesn't get obscured by the ALT+TAB menu.
The trick is not in greater resolution but in the rapid switch between images. That way, the eye picks up minor differences that aren't usually noticeable. Greater resolutions actually tend to slow down the process a bit since you often have to realign the map to check the same zone twice as it won't fit in the window.
RoadKill97
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Originally Posted by Livingston
Am I missing anything right here?
map1 Yeah, you are. Here you go http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/5052/smapfr1.jpg Well, Shyft was faster, but I found one more spot.
Shyft the Pyro
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Originally Posted by RoadKill97
Well, Shyft was faster, but I found one more spot.
Beat you to it on several of those too
jtchans
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Originally Posted by Shyft the Pyro
Normally I'd send you off to do more work on your own, but it's been kind of quiet lately. Here's what you're missing on Shing Jea: -west wall of Kinya Province; -center, west wall and SW corner of Sunqua Vale; -SW corner of Shing Jea Monastery outpost; -east wall of Panjiang Peninsula; -the mountain spot west of Tsumei Village; -north wall of Jaya Bluffs; -east wall of Haiju Lagoon; -north wall and SW corner of Zen Daijun explorable. Let me know if you want me to look over the rest or you'd rather give it a shot on your own
Thanks to your help I passed 97%. I think I now have all of shing jea island.If you have the time to help me with the rest, that would be very helpful to me.
Livingston
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Originally Posted by Shyft the Pyro
Well the west wall of Pongmei Valley is rather minor, but I did notice you could uncover more along the west wall of Mount Quinkai and in the NW corner of Arborstone explorable. The Mount Quinkai spot is close to the Luxon Aspenwood Gate, so it's another easy bit for you to check
Livingston
Shyft the Pyro
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Originally Posted by jtchans
If you have the time to help me with the rest, that would be very helpful to me. |
I'm so close, and I know the other locations will push it over.
-NW and NE corners of Bejunkan Pier;
-north wall of Bukdek Byway;
-NE corner of Raisu Palace explorable;
-south wall of Shadow's Passage;
-south wall of Dragon's Throat outpost (uncover from outside the outpost);
-east and south walls of Vizunah Square mission;
-north and south walls and SE corner of Undercity;
-NW corner and east wall of Shenzun Tunnels;
-NE corner of Imperial Sanctum mission (banishment path);
-east wall, NW corner and NE corner of Tahnnakai Temple explorable;
-SW corner of Zin Ku Corridor outpost;
-SW corner and south wall of Nahpui Quarter explorable;
-the farmland spot east of Maatu Keep;
-north wall of Boreas Seabed outpost;
-west and south walls of Pongmei Valley;
-NW, NE and SW corners of Arborstone explorable;
-north and east walls of Ferndale;
-west wall of Kurzick Fort Aspenwood outpost;
-NE corner of Fort Aspenwood battle area;
-SE corner of Sunjiang District explorable;
-west wall and NE corner of Jade Quarry battle area;
-east and south walls of Melandru's Hope;
-west wall and NW corner of Drazach Thicket;
-center and south wall of Eternal Grove explorable;
-SW corner of Amatz Basin outpost;
-south wall, SE corner and NE corner of Mourning Veil Falls;
-north wall of Morostav Trail;
-NW corner and south wall of Unwaking Waters explorable;
-north wall of Boreas Seabed explorable;
-center, SE corner and SW corner of Maishang Hills;
-SE corner of Archipelagos;
-NE corner of Gyala Hatchery explorable;
-north wall of Rhea's Crater;
-east wall of Rhea's Crater (SW of Aurios Mines);
-NW corner of Luxon Unwaking Waters outpost;
-NW and SE corners of Silent Surf.
Livingston
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Originally Posted by RoadKill97
Shyft the Pyro
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Originally Posted by Livingston
Actually, the Nahpui Quarter spot I was mentioning also included the north tip of the "fog protrusion," which is why my directions include checking south of the spot where the ranger boss spawns.
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Originally Posted by Livingston
How do you get to the most northern spot you marked? The one near the local square. Is it through Shenzu Tunnels?
That's the NW corner of Shenzun Tunnels. Head west along the north wall of Shenzun Tunnels out of Tahnnakai Temple and you'll only have to deal with (or run away from) one mob of Am Fah. The rest of the area is "friendly" (guards, peasants, collectors).
Livingston
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Originally Posted by Shyft the Pyro
That's the NW corner of Shenzun Tunnels. Head west along the north wall of Shenzun Tunnels out of Tahnnakai Temple and you'll only have to deal with (or run away from) one mob of Am Fah. The rest of the area is "friendly" (guards, peasants, collectors). I hugged the wall like hell all along the north wall, and it didn't give me anything. Are you sure you don't have to go through the skyway to get it maybe? Livingston
Shyft the Pyro
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Originally Posted by Livingston
I hugged the wall like hell all along the north wall, and it didn't give me anything. Are you sure you don't have to go through the skyway to get it maybe?
That spot's pretty far east of the zone point to be accessible from anywhere else, but you might want to try the east wall of Undercity, just south of the Local Quarter of Vizunah Square, in the corner by Dwayna's shrine. Some people have reported uncovering things that show up as NW Shenzun Tunnels from there, but you may already have cleared those. Can't relate because I already had the spot they were referring to cleared when I started comparing.
Livingston
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Originally Posted by Shyft the Pyro
That spot's pretty far east of the zone point to be accessible from anywhere else, but you might want to try the east wall of Undercity, just south of the Local Quarter of Vizunah Square, in the corner by Dwayna's shrine. Some people have reported uncovering things that show up as NW Shenzun Tunnels from there, but you may already have cleared those. Can't relate because I already had the spot they were referring to cleared when I started comparing.
OK, I've now tried north of Shenzun, east of Skyway, and east of Undercity near local quarter entrance. I haven't seen any difference and I have zoomed in and out as far as possible and have seen no difference here between my map and the %100.
Here is that spot again in case I've got it now and I just didn't notice a change. If you think it is still there, could you please please take a zoomed in shot of it clear and post it side by side with my shot to show where the difference is, because I am not seeing it... Livingston Edit: Forgot to include the screenshot of the area: Northbastardspot Answer to post below: Yeah I'm going for the arborstone one now, it's really annoying that you can only reach it from the south end. The thing is even when I get %100 I'll still want to clear everything I can which would include that spot.
Shyft the Pyro
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Originally Posted by Livingston
OK, I've now tried north of Shenzun, east of Skyway, and east of Undercity near local quarter entrance. I haven't seen any difference and I have zoomed in and out as far as possible and have seen no difference here between my map and the %100.
Here is that spot again in case I've got it now and I just didn't notice a change. If you think it is still there, could you please please take a zoomed in shot of it clear and post it side by side with my shot to show where the difference is, because I am not seeing it... If it's this much trouble it's not worth it. Check on the other spots you're missing and you'll surely pick up that last 0.1% with less effort.
RoadKill97
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Quote: Originally Posted by Shyft the Pyro In fact, all the spots I mentioned are circled in that screenshot except for the west wall of Pongmei Valley (the part I saw the difference in was the NW corner). I didn't see any difference there when I was comparing Livingston's map to mine, but when I compared to Leighwyn's map I noticed the difference. It seems to me that Leighwyn is missing a piece there, not Livingston.
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Leighwyn's map on page 1 and 2 is definitely 100%. It's not the most up to date, and apparently Roadkill has more, but it is definitely enough to get the title. I'm hoping that Roadkill will post one as well though.|
Originally Posted by Livingston
Here is that spot again in case I've got it now and I just didn't notice a change.
If you think it is still there, could you please please take a zoomed in shot of it clear and post it side by side with my shot to show where the difference is, because I am not seeing it... Edit: Forgot to include the screenshot of the area: Northbastardspot You got that one cleared. Congrats.
Shyft the Pyro
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Originally Posted by RoadKill97
I didn't see any difference there when I was comparing Livingston's map to mine, but when I compared to Leighwyn's map I noticed the difference. It seems to me that Leighwyn is missing a piece there, not Livingston.
Ah. That's quite possible, considering Leighwyn hasn't updated that map in a while.
Barristan the Bold
Not sure if someone has said anything regarding this already. I'm having some trouble getting the area just southwest of Zos Shivros Channel. Any ideas?
Livingston
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
   6:21AM and I finally got it!!!!!   Thank you so much for your help. Considering I couldn't even see the spots when I knew where to look, I really couldn't have done it without you. Livingston
Livingston
Hey RoadKill, could you possibly upload a copy of your map. I'd really like to check it against the one I was using to see if I can find any differences in the places you mentioned.
It was the part in the SW of Nahpui Quarter that got me the last bit for my 100%. Which is weird because I had just redone that area yesterday. However, this time I turned up my gama to near full so I could see exactly where everything was, which I believe is what did it for me. I went to get the spot in Arborstone right before that. Here is the updated SSs of those areas. Could you guys check to see if they look clear to you now? Small Large Now I'm off to get that spot on the mountain. Livingston Edit: I've been to the map. I did notice any change but here's the updated SS: Mount Does it look clear to you guys now? Edit 2: Here is my Shing Jea Island: Shing Jea Island Can you guys have a look and see if I missed anything. I don't think I have but now that I have 100% I'd like to double check everything.
RTSFirebat
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Originally Posted by Barristan the Bold
Not sure if someone has said anything regarding this already. I'm having some trouble getting the area just southwest of Zos Shivros Channel. Any ideas?
Enter the Mission at that town, and you can explore that area for 1 min before the challenge mission begins.
Easy.
Loralai
Hi. I've been following the thread relatively closely, and I have a problem. I don't have Photoshop, so I've basically been utilizing the 100% map in either MS Paint or a browser, and doing the alt+tab method, as well as the side by side comparison. I am now at 98.8% and can no longer see anything.
What is the best method for me to post screenshots? Minimaps in multiples or what? It's not my forte so I apologize. Never have been good with programs of the like.
Two April Mornings
99.9...determined not to ask for help
...looking through 40 pages of stuff is help enough methinks EDIT: GRANDMASTER NOW Thank you to: Leighwyn Shyft all others who posted and whom i leeched from.
Cebe
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Originally Posted by Shyft the Pyro
-north wall of Imperial Sanctum mission (banishment path); -SE corner of Divine Path; -north wall of Raisu Palace explorable; -south wall of Dragon's Throat outpost (uncover from outside the outpost);  -west and east walls of Tahnnakai Temple explorable; -SW corner of Amatz Basin outpost; -south wall of Eternal Grove explorable; -north wall, south wall, NE corner and SE corner of Mourning Veil Falls; -north and east walls of Morostav Trail; -south wall and NW corner of Unwaking Waters explorable; -south and east walls of Archipelagos; -SW corner of Maishang Hills; -NE corner of Gyala Hatchery explorable; -SE corner of Arborstone explorable; -north wall of Ferndale; -west wall of Kurzick Aspenwood Gate outpost; -south wall and NE corner of Fort Aspenwood battle area; -NW and SW corners of Jade Quarry battle area; -SW corner of Saint Anjeka's Shrine outpost; -center of Melandru's Hope; -west wall of Drazach Thicket; -north and east walls of Kinya Province; -south wall of Nahpui Quarter explorable; -SE corner of Nahpui Quarter mission; -NE corner of Nahpui Quarter outpost; -SW corner of Shing Jea Monastery outpost; -south wall of Sunqua Vale; -north wall of Jaya Bluffs; -north wall of Zen Daijun. Thanks to Shyft for posting my missing spots - The denote the places I have visited - I know it was a while ago - I'm slow, unfortunately I have a real life job, and they wont pay me to play guild wars! Anyway - 99.2% now...There are a fre places you mentioned I have a queries over... - SW Corner of Shing Jea Monastery - I know this is an often missed-out spot and i have visited it 3 times on 3 separate occaisons and cannot seem to reveal any more of the map! Is there anything special about this I should know? - South wall of Sunqua Vale - again - edge walked this, got as far into the water as I could (also tried exploring the SW corner of the Monastery from outside) but didn't seem to show any more map... - Dragon's Throat outpost - you say explore from outside the outpost - by this do you mean go through Vizunah Square mission? Also, is it possible for someone to let me know where there is the most recent 100% map? I would look through the thread but it is very long so if someone knows the post number off the top of their head I would really appreciate it. I was just wondering if the map I was using wasn't completely 100%... Thanks.
Epinephrine
Hi, trying for 100% on a Tyrian toon; I notice some say that you can't, others say that you can, and a map of a Tyrian's 100% of Cantha is shown - but how do you access the "insignia" area as a Tyrian? I notice that that area is uncovered on the Tyrian map of Cantha, and I have no idea how to get there.
I'm not close enough to 100% to need help with an overall map; I am just starting the process really but I thought I had roughly 100% of accessible Shing Jea (starting with the easy bits) and then saw that others had this starter area that I can't get near.
Cebe
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Originally Posted by Epinephrine
but how do you access the "insignia" area as a Tyrian? I notice that that area is uncovered on the Tyrian map of Cantha, and I have no idea how to get there.
You can't
At least you can't unless they have another event (like the Dragon Festival) which allows non-canthans in there... It's been proven that Tyrians don't need the Monastry Overlook to gain Grandmasters title, there's a 1.0-1.2% leeway. you'll just have to work a little harder at it than us Canthans!!
Livingston
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Originally Posted by Epinephrine
Hi, trying for 100% on a Tyrian toon; I notice some say that you can't, others say that you can, and a map of a Tyrian's 100% of Cantha is shown - but how do you access the "insignia" area as a Tyrian? I notice that that area is uncovered on the Tyrian map of Cantha, and I have no idea how to get there.
I'm not close enough to 100% to need help with an overall map; I am just starting the process really but I thought I had roughly 100% of accessible Shing Jea (starting with the easy bits) and then saw that others had this starter area that I can't get near. I don't really know what you mean by insignia area. Are you talking about the arena or the monastery overlook? Those are the only places that you can't access normally as a Tyrian. Yet on Dragon Festival you could access the overlook, and you can still travel to the arena outpost, which will give you most of the map, if not all. It doesn't matter though, because you don't need it to get the title. I have it now, and I don't have the area either, even though I was here for the festival, I didn't realize you could get in there until after it was over. Livingston
Epinephrine
Thanks; yes, the "insignia" area I guess is called Monastery Overlook - it's where the testing for the Insignia happens for new Canthans, so I assumed that it would be clear. Ok, then I won't worry about that little bit and I'll work on the rest of the continent, and when I get stuck in the high 90s I'll be back to plumb this thread.
Shyft the Pyro
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Canthan characters initially start out in the Monastery Overlook and can uncover the whole area by following the tutorial. Tyrian characters could only access the area during the Dragon Festival, and even then it would not show up on the overview map as the Monastery Overlook because the Dragon Festival turned the arena into an extension of Shing Jea Monastery outpost.
Quote: Originally Posted by Celestial Beaver - SW Corner of Shing Jea Monastery - I know this is an often missed-out spot and i have visited it 3 times on 3 separate occaisons and cannot seem to reveal any more of the map! Is there anything special about this I should know? The spot is against the wall behind the Xunlai storage agents in the very SW corner of the zone. If you've already visited it, please post an updated screenshot of your "U" window so we can determine if you've uncovered everything you could. As stated before, not all fogged spots are large enough to net you a % towards the exploration title, so you might have unfogged the spot without noticing it.
Generally though, if it takes too much time to unfog, move on to the next spot. There are always easier ones, since you don't have to uncover them all to get the title.
Quote: Originally Posted by Celestial Beaver - South wall of Sunqua Vale - again - edge walked this, got as far into the water as I could (also tried exploring the SW corner of the Monastery from outside) but didn't seem to show any more map... Same as above. Please post and updated screenshot or just move on to other spots.
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- Dragon's Throat outpost - you say explore from outside the outpost - by this do you mean go through Vizunah Square mission?
No. As posted earlier, Dragon's Throat outpost is glitched in that it doesn't show your character's location marker on the "U" map, same way as in the Dragon's Throat mission. To uncover the outpost you need to walk outside into Shadow's Passage and get as close to the zone barrier as you can without entering. That won't uncover the outpost completely, but is sure to net you an easy fog spot or two. Quote:
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