UW Solo Mo/W Build and Tutorial
Levi Garett
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Originally Posted by darkhorse!
graspings are a pain in the you know what now, because when ever i cast healing they hit me and I have a slow casting time! im piss lol.
You don't need any healing spells to solo UW. You don't need any warrior skills to solo UW. All you need are divine favor, protection, and smiting-And a little creativity/testing to figure things out. That is if you can think for yourself. Heaven forbid somebody doesn't use a cookie-cutter build and figures things out for themselves.
You don't need any healing spells to solo UW. You don't need any warrior skills to solo UW. All you need are divine favor, protection, and smiting-And a little creativity/testing to figure things out. That is if you can think for yourself. Heaven forbid somebody doesn't use a cookie-cutter build and figures things out for themselves.
wiz12268
Moltov Joss----??????
That wasn't a flame nor was it anything that I can see than the truth. Korea has favor maybe 1 hour a day lately, they surely haven't had it during the daytime that I can see .Europe had it for maybe an hour another day. Korea had favor early this morning and they just lost it, I imagine the US will have it the rest of the day.
As for a skill bar, ya he gave them the skill bar, the cast sequence, what points to use where, how to switch scalp designs to get max output before casting, where to go; he basically drew a map. I would say he gave them a blueprint and a step by step log. So not "knowing how to play it" isn't even an issue, he TELLS you how. If he didn't a hundred other posts in here helped out. You even have guys posting up videos LMAO. Who cares? Like I say I don't. But obviously you do considering the way you went off on my post.
How does giving every newb player this type of build going to help the game? Who is going to be a healing monk these days? Who will join a group and get bitched at for not healing by an ele who stands in the middle of a meteor shower or a chaos storm casting flare? They will just try this build and go alone. Even if they don't get far even one ecto will makeup for it. They might have to make 4-5 PUG runs to get an ecto.
People do a lot of things that hurt this game, every time a post like this comes up there is an update that fixes an "exploit". There were about 5 updates in a week a while ago, all because, I believe, guys posted topics in forums (not just this one) that told how easy it was to do something. Now every spot that was easy has something that makes it nearly impossible.
If a game is supposed to be based on skill and not hours of play, then how is it "competitve" to take make skills that people have learned how to use together, obsolete by adding in another factor that makes that skill set basically useless. It would be one thing to give the particular monsters that already existed the ability themslves to combat a certain build, but to introduce a whole new array of enemies in an area isn't following the original intentions of this game.
When certain builds do well in PvP arenas other teams have to adapt, you don't have Spirits or Stippers, or some other build killer popping up in random areas to kill that experienced players skills, why kill the experiences for the PvE players who have learned how to put skills together well enough to succeed?
I don't want to get off topic, but it is assinine to argue about these things. He isn't the first, nor will he be the last to figure out some build that will have success somewhere. Him posting it shouldn't be an issue either. But unfortuantely it is. The game is basically getting funneled into the same arena as all the other games. SKILLS don't determine how well you do, but the diversity of a team, not only in PvP but also in PvE. Because once a person finally figures out how to string skills together they change the rules, and make the skill set you learned worth nothing.
Granted it is supposed to be a team based game, but ideally I think the makers envisioned guilds with hundreds of members, not rogue guilds popping up with memebers that aren't into the whole guild thing, and so many PUG players who DO belong to guilds still playing in PUG games. If THAT were the case then no biggie, make a diverse team up, share the loot with your guildies and have fun. But Tyria isn't a perfect world, just as our real world isn't a perfect world, so people deal.
**As for the sudden death, I only use the collector staff, so I do not run into those energy problems. (that is also one of the reasons I mentioned the opening build wouldn't work, because it is mentioned that that focus item is key the -20 HP focus gives +22 energy below 33%) Because you do get that mana gap against the coldefires, and they can't get a backdoor strip on you. That is also something I consider skill related, knowing when something will hurt you like an item that gives or takes away am attribute at a certain break point. Like a warrior with a +45 while enchanted shield , once they lose the enchant they dump the points, and wham...too late to heal them they are dead.
That wasn't a flame nor was it anything that I can see than the truth. Korea has favor maybe 1 hour a day lately, they surely haven't had it during the daytime that I can see .Europe had it for maybe an hour another day. Korea had favor early this morning and they just lost it, I imagine the US will have it the rest of the day.
As for a skill bar, ya he gave them the skill bar, the cast sequence, what points to use where, how to switch scalp designs to get max output before casting, where to go; he basically drew a map. I would say he gave them a blueprint and a step by step log. So not "knowing how to play it" isn't even an issue, he TELLS you how. If he didn't a hundred other posts in here helped out. You even have guys posting up videos LMAO. Who cares? Like I say I don't. But obviously you do considering the way you went off on my post.
How does giving every newb player this type of build going to help the game? Who is going to be a healing monk these days? Who will join a group and get bitched at for not healing by an ele who stands in the middle of a meteor shower or a chaos storm casting flare? They will just try this build and go alone. Even if they don't get far even one ecto will makeup for it. They might have to make 4-5 PUG runs to get an ecto.
People do a lot of things that hurt this game, every time a post like this comes up there is an update that fixes an "exploit". There were about 5 updates in a week a while ago, all because, I believe, guys posted topics in forums (not just this one) that told how easy it was to do something. Now every spot that was easy has something that makes it nearly impossible.
If a game is supposed to be based on skill and not hours of play, then how is it "competitve" to take make skills that people have learned how to use together, obsolete by adding in another factor that makes that skill set basically useless. It would be one thing to give the particular monsters that already existed the ability themslves to combat a certain build, but to introduce a whole new array of enemies in an area isn't following the original intentions of this game.
When certain builds do well in PvP arenas other teams have to adapt, you don't have Spirits or Stippers, or some other build killer popping up in random areas to kill that experienced players skills, why kill the experiences for the PvE players who have learned how to put skills together well enough to succeed?
I don't want to get off topic, but it is assinine to argue about these things. He isn't the first, nor will he be the last to figure out some build that will have success somewhere. Him posting it shouldn't be an issue either. But unfortuantely it is. The game is basically getting funneled into the same arena as all the other games. SKILLS don't determine how well you do, but the diversity of a team, not only in PvP but also in PvE. Because once a person finally figures out how to string skills together they change the rules, and make the skill set you learned worth nothing.
Granted it is supposed to be a team based game, but ideally I think the makers envisioned guilds with hundreds of members, not rogue guilds popping up with memebers that aren't into the whole guild thing, and so many PUG players who DO belong to guilds still playing in PUG games. If THAT were the case then no biggie, make a diverse team up, share the loot with your guildies and have fun. But Tyria isn't a perfect world, just as our real world isn't a perfect world, so people deal.
**As for the sudden death, I only use the collector staff, so I do not run into those energy problems. (that is also one of the reasons I mentioned the opening build wouldn't work, because it is mentioned that that focus item is key the -20 HP focus gives +22 energy below 33%) Because you do get that mana gap against the coldefires, and they can't get a backdoor strip on you. That is also something I consider skill related, knowing when something will hurt you like an item that gives or takes away am attribute at a certain break point. Like a warrior with a +45 while enchanted shield , once they lose the enchant they dump the points, and wham...too late to heal them they are dead.
NIB
You can get the -50hp focus as a reward for finishing "cities of ascalon" quest. I tried the 55hp build with healing breeze, it worked godlike. I could take like 15 enemies at the same time and i didnt need any healing except healing breeze. But if you are bleeding and your healing breeze is interupted, then things get hard really fast. So you just need to keep spamming healing breeze, use boneti if necessary in order to cast it uninterupted.
Also you can use mending just to be safe. With mending and healing breeze, you shouldnt die to anything. Even if your healing breeze is interupted, mending will keep your hp stable. But it will take a bit more time to kill things.
Also you can use mending just to be safe. With mending and healing breeze, you shouldnt die to anything. Even if your healing breeze is interupted, mending will keep your hp stable. But it will take a bit more time to kill things.
spiritofcat
You see a lot of people advertising for 2 man smite runs for two reasons.
1. If you're going by yourself, you don't need to advertise, so you won't see how many are soloing.
2. For me at least, it's SO much faster if I bring an echo nuker with me.
The only problem is convincing them that as an E/Mo I can do what they think is reserved for Mo/W.
1. If you're going by yourself, you don't need to advertise, so you won't see how many are soloing.
2. For me at least, it's SO much faster if I bring an echo nuker with me.
The only problem is convincing them that as an E/Mo I can do what they think is reserved for Mo/W.
wiz12268
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Originally Posted by spiritofcat
You see a lot of people advertising for 2 man smite runs for two reasons.
1. If you're going by yourself, you don't need to advertise, so you won't see how many are soloing.
2. For me at least, it's SO much faster if I bring an echo nuker with me.
The only problem is convincing them that as an E/Mo I can do what they think is reserved for Mo/W. Well until a couple weeks ago it was all 3 or 5 man smite runs. And generally the warriors were doing the tanking looking for a pro monk and a heal monk or a pro monk and a nuker. Now monks want a healing monk only to come with them, or at least that is what I saw being asked for mostly.
I take people with me all the time, to go faster, to do a couple quests, or to break the monotony. I have almost enough ecto to buy a full set (think I need 12 more) But I as of yet haven't figured out if I am going to or not. I might wait and be the first to get any new armor sets thay have up their sleeves. I have a few rubies and saphires as well, so unless they make them 25 or so each of them I have that covered as well.
I had actualy stopped going down because the drops weren't so good. But started up again last week, still not great, even totally alone. The best run I have had was with someone who I bought something from and as part f the payment they got a couple runs. Well we got 4 ectos (2 each) and that person got a gold shield. Solo the best I have seen is e ectos and that was my first run back, and before the doors even opened. I think I might have gotten 3 ectos from smites in all the runs I have made solo or paired.
As for breeze along with mend, it is overkill, especially if you are at 55 HP. Even with only +3 mend you should hold steady with the bleed, and boon(if you carry) will more than heal you full. Boon cost 7 and is instant, and breeze is 10 and can be interupted. No comparison. (but most people that run it know it)
1. If you're going by yourself, you don't need to advertise, so you won't see how many are soloing.
2. For me at least, it's SO much faster if I bring an echo nuker with me.
The only problem is convincing them that as an E/Mo I can do what they think is reserved for Mo/W. Well until a couple weeks ago it was all 3 or 5 man smite runs. And generally the warriors were doing the tanking looking for a pro monk and a heal monk or a pro monk and a nuker. Now monks want a healing monk only to come with them, or at least that is what I saw being asked for mostly.
I take people with me all the time, to go faster, to do a couple quests, or to break the monotony. I have almost enough ecto to buy a full set (think I need 12 more) But I as of yet haven't figured out if I am going to or not. I might wait and be the first to get any new armor sets thay have up their sleeves. I have a few rubies and saphires as well, so unless they make them 25 or so each of them I have that covered as well.
I had actualy stopped going down because the drops weren't so good. But started up again last week, still not great, even totally alone. The best run I have had was with someone who I bought something from and as part f the payment they got a couple runs. Well we got 4 ectos (2 each) and that person got a gold shield. Solo the best I have seen is e ectos and that was my first run back, and before the doors even opened. I think I might have gotten 3 ectos from smites in all the runs I have made solo or paired.
As for breeze along with mend, it is overkill, especially if you are at 55 HP. Even with only +3 mend you should hold steady with the bleed, and boon(if you carry) will more than heal you full. Boon cost 7 and is instant, and breeze is 10 and can be interupted. No comparison. (but most people that run it know it)
spiritofcat
Yeah, I don't take boon. Maybe I'll try replacing breeze with boon and see how I go.
Okay, I agree. Boon makes it a lot faster, and it heals better than breeze.
However, at the moment, probably just because I'm not used to it, I find myself running out of energy at critical moments, or getting killed because I neglected my boon for a second.
With some more practice I'll probably get used to it.
Okay, I agree. Boon makes it a lot faster, and it heals better than breeze.
However, at the moment, probably just because I'm not used to it, I find myself running out of energy at critical moments, or getting killed because I neglected my boon for a second.
With some more practice I'll probably get used to it.
Jordaan
Im enjoyin this thread and as we speak this build---one quick question and Im sure hate mail will follow lol----When Jelly mentions a superior rune does he mean all superior protection runes? don't hate me lol
kleps
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Originally Posted by Jordaan
Im enjoyin this thread and as we speak this build---one quick question and Im sure hate mail will follow lol----When Jelly mentions a superior rune does he mean all superior protection runes? don't hate me lol
1 of each superior monk rune and 1 duplicate
NIB
Boon doesnt heal better than breeze. Breeze can keep you with full hp for 12secs(with 20% enchanting pommel). Boon can keep you at full hp for 0.1 secs. Sure boon doesnt get interupted as easily but when you are against few enemies or spellcasters, you dont gain energy fast enough. So you just cant keep spamming boon all the time. Also eventually you will need to cast balthazar's aura but if you are tanking many enemies and you are also bleeding, that breef time that you arent getting healed by boon, could be fatal.
Not to mention that you have to stop casting boon for a couple secs when using bonneti, which can also be risky. IMO there are many very viable builds. But its build plays a little different. On some buils you need more enemies than others to work or other builds work slower. Just use whatever build you feel comfortable.
Not to mention that you have to stop casting boon for a couple secs when using bonneti, which can also be risky. IMO there are many very viable builds. But its build plays a little different. On some buils you need more enemies than others to work or other builds work slower. Just use whatever build you feel comfortable.
wiz12268
My point is that with mend you don't need breeze. If you don't have mend then breeze is better option. Also with the signet, mana should never be a problem even one on one, just cast it every time it recharges. you will get 9 mana per cast 12 if you have 4 enchants on. Only time you wait for mana is against coldfires, and they shouldn't be able to hurt you unless smites are all over you, and even then it is a 50/50 shot of an iterupt.
Charcoal Ann
this is all very well and good but if i could afford the 250k for the superior runes then i don't think i would WANT to farm
Levi Garett
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Originally Posted by Charcoal Ann
this is all very well and good but if i could afford the 250k for the superior runes then i don't think i would WANT to farm
ROFL!
Before this post was created you could do this for like 20k
I know my LA tatoos and Superiour runes were probablly cheaper than that when I started....
Before this post was created you could do this for like 20k
I know my LA tatoos and Superiour runes were probablly cheaper than that when I started....
Jade
Lol, I thought that it was extremely expensive to do it when all four of the runes were going for 2k and less each! Guess I got off lucky. and those 3 other sup monk runes burning a hole in my storage......
NIB
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Billiard
The signet seems fine for me in UW and Griffon runs - I usually only have to use it when I am down to one enemy and my energy is not regening fast enough.
And yeah I can't believe how expensive the runes have gotten!
And yeah I can't believe how expensive the runes have gotten!
Eadwyn Mirwen
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Originally Posted by Charcoal Ann
this is all very well and good but if i could afford the 250k for the superior runes then i don't think i would WANT to farm
1. You dont need superior runes for this. Major runes will also do the trick together with the -50 HP from Ascalon Cities.
2. You can farm superior runes easily.
2. You can farm superior runes easily.
HowardJones
I agree that the first build mentioned in this thread is weak, and anyone trying this will see that it sucks, because I tried it when figuring out this build. I think the guy posted it to learn what to do instead and thats a laugh 
because I tried everything to get my build together, and not just using a monk but an el too.
I also think people are deliberatley not saying what the real build is just to confuse and frustrate people, because it takes so long to figure it out.
That being said, I can say that using mending is a joke, because you need to do damgae or it will take you three times as long to solo. You HAVE to have healing breeze, because you WILL bleed to death. Spamming divine boon is actually a good build when used with zealots fire, but I find that you wait for energy.
I also think people are deliberatley not saying what the real build is just to confuse and frustrate people, because it takes so long to figure it out.
That being said, I can say that using mending is a joke, because you need to do damgae or it will take you three times as long to solo. You HAVE to have healing breeze, because you WILL bleed to death. Spamming divine boon is actually a good build when used with zealots fire, but I find that you wait for energy.
spiritofcat
I haven't tried boon in the UW yet, but it works nicely in FoW.
As to what keeps you at full health better, Breeze will make your health come back constantly, at a fairly fast rate, but boon will spike heal you and at the rate at which you can spam it, it does a better job of keeping you alive than breeze. At least in the FoW.
As to what keeps you at full health better, Breeze will make your health come back constantly, at a fairly fast rate, but boon will spike heal you and at the rate at which you can spam it, it does a better job of keeping you alive than breeze. At least in the FoW.
miteethor
Before you debate whether to take breeze or boon, please try my V3.0 build in this thread. I don't take either, and I never need to heal and I never bleed to death. I also have a ton of energy available with both Bonettis and Blessed Signet at my disposal.
Also, Blessed Signet DOES work in UW, just not against Grasping darkness. However, you can use it against Ataxes, Smites, Coldfires, and Dryders. It even works inside a Malestrom because a signet isn't a spell therefore isn't interrupted. And Bonettis works against Ataxes, Grasping Darkness, and Smites but not Coldfires or Dryders, so by bringing both I can do anything I want.
Also, Blessed Signet DOES work in UW, just not against Grasping darkness. However, you can use it against Ataxes, Smites, Coldfires, and Dryders. It even works inside a Malestrom because a signet isn't a spell therefore isn't interrupted. And Bonettis works against Ataxes, Grasping Darkness, and Smites but not Coldfires or Dryders, so by bringing both I can do anything I want.
saphir
one does NEED breeze, or NEED boon. it depends on your style of play.
i've posted shots of all that's possible w/ the skills i like to run. the way i like to play in uw is take the quest, then aggro all 7 bulls and the first 2 mobs of graspers and spam like there's no tomorrow. gather 3 groups of smites and spam like globs will fall from the sky. it's no fun if there's no risk of death with ecto all around you that you can't pick up.
in fow, just grab some energy feeders, bring an interrupt and the shadow groups should be down before you run out of 2 cycles of zealots.
i've posted shots of all that's possible w/ the skills i like to run. the way i like to play in uw is take the quest, then aggro all 7 bulls and the first 2 mobs of graspers and spam like there's no tomorrow. gather 3 groups of smites and spam like globs will fall from the sky. it's no fun if there's no risk of death with ecto all around you that you can't pick up.
in fow, just grab some energy feeders, bring an interrupt and the shadow groups should be down before you run out of 2 cycles of zealots.
Zackile Greenbirth
Miteethors V3.0 Build is the easiest build to solo UW with as you can take on large groups and survive easily, even grasping darknesses are easy as i have constand regen.
Thanks Miteethor....been using your build fo UW runs all the time
With all sup runes and -50hp icon you are almost invincible, Get a monk with Life Bond to join you and you only get 1 dmg a hit........then change Watchful Spirit for Essence Bond then you canhave +1 energy a hit AND still have +1 regen (Healing 13, +4 Mending) when bleeding......only problem would be dryders with immolate, but you can avoid them for Smite Runs.
Thanks Miteethor....been using your build fo UW runs all the time
With all sup runes and -50hp icon you are almost invincible, Get a monk with Life Bond to join you and you only get 1 dmg a hit........then change Watchful Spirit for Essence Bond then you canhave +1 energy a hit AND still have +1 regen (Healing 13, +4 Mending) when bleeding......only problem would be dryders with immolate, but you can avoid them for Smite Runs.
Arton
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Originally Posted by saphir
one does NEED breeze, or NEED boon. it depends on your style of play.
I don't use Breeze or Boon.
David Lionmaster
i hate u monks that solo in uw, u ruined the prices of storm bows and the economy!!!! 
Mygo
So how do you guys do the mindblades? Migraines/Conjure phantasm/Ignorance hexers.
Lynnrose
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Originally Posted by David Lionmaster
i hate u monks that solo in uw, u ruined the prices of storm bows and the economy!!!!
Honestly? I have a 105/55 monk smiter I use to grind/farm UW and other areas, primarily for the XP (to unlock skills so I don't have to take an E/Me through the linear, predictable, now-stale storyline yet again). Wanna know what I do with storm bows? I either give them to friends, sell them for less than 1K in Ascalon (or give them away if I can tell the person is a newbie), or sell them to the merchant for their 50 gp inherent value. Yeah -- that's wrecking the economy. This thread is about discussing and improving upon the builds for smite monks, not for bitching about who's to blame for the state of the GW economy.
Honestly? I have a 105/55 monk smiter I use to grind/farm UW and other areas, primarily for the XP (to unlock skills so I don't have to take an E/Me through the linear, predictable, now-stale storyline yet again). Wanna know what I do with storm bows? I either give them to friends, sell them for less than 1K in Ascalon (or give them away if I can tell the person is a newbie), or sell them to the merchant for their 50 gp inherent value. Yeah -- that's wrecking the economy. This thread is about discussing and improving upon the builds for smite monks, not for bitching about who's to blame for the state of the GW economy.
capitalist
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Originally Posted by Ryun
Honestly? I have a 105/55 monk smiter I use to grind/farm UW and other areas, primarily for the XP (to unlock skills so I don't have to take an E/Me through the linear, predictable, now-stale storyline yet again). Wanna know what I do with storm bows? I either give them to friends, sell them for less than 1K in Ascalon (or give them away if I can tell the person is a newbie), or sell them to the merchant for their 50 gp inherent value. Yeah -- that's wrecking the economy. This thread is about discussing and improving upon the builds for smite monks, not for bitching about who's to blame for the state of the GW economy.
/signed
Straight to the merchant for all my storm bows.
Straight to the merchant for all my storm bows.
Melkor of ZoSo
What's good Armor to use with this build? Any of Droknar's Armor? I've got Droknars Censor's Armor right now... Dont want to put all the runes on if there'd be a better choice for the build...
Zackile Greenbirth
Lions Arch tatto armor is best as cheapest and armor value doesn't matter
Phoenix Of The Rising Sun
dats so cool-to solo UW and FoW!! i guess dats something to be proud of.. i'm gonna be a mo\w too!! =p
Daren
How do you colour you scapls? -.- doesnt seem to work with one dye for me..
capitalist
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Originally Posted by Melkor of ZoSo
What's good Armor to use with this build? Any of Droknar's Armor? I've got Droknars Censor's Armor right now... Dont want to put all the runes on if there'd be a better choice for the build...
I know someone answered this for you but if you read the damn post it has been mentioned numerous times.
HowardJones
ok...
I tried the V.3 build and it sucks. mending+watchfull spirit = < healing breeze. Your build fogoes essence bond for two healing enchants that you have to maintain, and it DOES NOT prevent you from bleeding to death. Also, you DO NOT have the time to cast shield of judgement vs them. You CANNOT sacrifice exxence bond.
with my build I can take on more aatxes than with yours and I do about the same dmg as you say you can do.
PS- the divine boon + zealots fire works well but I dont use that one
also, for those of you thinking taking the foclli that negs 50 health is smart, do the math. You are getting one or two hits more than taking the 105 build, plus you have lower health window if your breeze is interrupted while bleeding, PLUS you give up the bonus of energy and recharge from either the monk staff or proper icon.
I laugh because I decided to sell my staff of smiting collectors with perfect enchant and energy mod and people told me I was stupid and laughed at me and offered 3k for it. Thiss staff is probably better than anything else for farming, because its the balth aura that you need recharged fastest. I took so much grief from morons...
I tried the V.3 build and it sucks. mending+watchfull spirit = < healing breeze. Your build fogoes essence bond for two healing enchants that you have to maintain, and it DOES NOT prevent you from bleeding to death. Also, you DO NOT have the time to cast shield of judgement vs them. You CANNOT sacrifice exxence bond.
with my build I can take on more aatxes than with yours and I do about the same dmg as you say you can do.
PS- the divine boon + zealots fire works well but I dont use that one
also, for those of you thinking taking the foclli that negs 50 health is smart, do the math. You are getting one or two hits more than taking the 105 build, plus you have lower health window if your breeze is interrupted while bleeding, PLUS you give up the bonus of energy and recharge from either the monk staff or proper icon.
I laugh because I decided to sell my staff of smiting collectors with perfect enchant and energy mod and people told me I was stupid and laughed at me and offered 3k for it. Thiss staff is probably better than anything else for farming, because its the balth aura that you need recharged fastest. I took so much grief from morons...
xAzNx
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Originally Posted by HowardJones
ok...
I tried the V.3 build and it sucks. mending+watchfull spirit = < healing breeze. Your build fogoes essence bond for two healing enchants that you have to maintain, and it DOES NOT prevent you from bleeding to death. Also, you DO NOT have the time to cast shield of judgement vs them. You CANNOT sacrifice exxence bond.
with my build I can take on more aatxes than with yours and I do about the same dmg as you say you can do.
PS- the divine boon + zealots fire works well but I dont use that one
also, for those of you thinking taking the foclli that negs 50 health is smart, do the math. You are getting one or two hits more than taking the 105 build, plus you have lower health window if your breeze is interrupted while bleeding, PLUS you give up the bonus of energy and recharge from either the monk staff or proper icon.
I laugh because I decided to sell my staff of smiting collectors with perfect enchant and energy mod and people told me I was stupid and laughed at me and offered 3k for it. Thiss staff is probably better than anything else for farming, because its the balth aura that you need recharged fastest. I took so much grief from morons... are u sure u tried the build.. it works like a charm for me :P
I tried the V.3 build and it sucks. mending+watchfull spirit = < healing breeze. Your build fogoes essence bond for two healing enchants that you have to maintain, and it DOES NOT prevent you from bleeding to death. Also, you DO NOT have the time to cast shield of judgement vs them. You CANNOT sacrifice exxence bond.
with my build I can take on more aatxes than with yours and I do about the same dmg as you say you can do.
PS- the divine boon + zealots fire works well but I dont use that one
also, for those of you thinking taking the foclli that negs 50 health is smart, do the math. You are getting one or two hits more than taking the 105 build, plus you have lower health window if your breeze is interrupted while bleeding, PLUS you give up the bonus of energy and recharge from either the monk staff or proper icon.
I laugh because I decided to sell my staff of smiting collectors with perfect enchant and energy mod and people told me I was stupid and laughed at me and offered 3k for it. Thiss staff is probably better than anything else for farming, because its the balth aura that you need recharged fastest. I took so much grief from morons... are u sure u tried the build.. it works like a charm for me :P
miteethor
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Originally Posted by HowardJones
ok...
I tried the V.3 build and it sucks. mending+watchfull spirit = < healing breeze. Your build fogoes essence bond for two healing enchants that you have to maintain, and it DOES NOT prevent you from bleeding to death. Also, you DO NOT have the time to cast shield of judgement vs them. You CANNOT sacrifice exxence bond.
with my build I can take on more aatxes than with yours and I do about the same dmg as you say you can do.
PS- the divine boon + zealots fire works well but I dont use that one
also, for those of you thinking taking the foclli that negs 50 health is smart, do the math. You are getting one or two hits more than taking the 105 build, plus you have lower health window if your breeze is interrupted while bleeding, PLUS you give up the bonus of energy and recharge from either the monk staff or proper icon.
I think you haven't thought this through all the way. With 105HP that means you take 5 dmg per hit. With a max Healing breeze you can heal 20HP per second, which is 4 monster hits per second. If you are bleeding then it's 7 arrows or 14HP per second, which is not even 3 monster hits.
You also have to cast it maybe 5-6 times per minute at 60 energy, and there is a chance yours can get (fatally) interrupted meaning you may have to cast more like 7-8 times per minute. You are spending a lot of time and energy re-casting a healing spell you don't need.
With 55HP, you take only 2 dmg per hit because of rounding, and with Mending+Watchful spirit on you can heal 6 hits per second. Plus I never have to spend any points healing because mine is on all the time and it can't get interrupted.
Now when you use Bonettis or Shielf of Judgement, the attack rate drops from about 1 attack per person every 1.25 seconds to 1 attack per monster every 3-4 seconds, which means you can effectively take a mob of 18-24, without using a single healing spell.
I don't see how it's possible you bled to death - bleeding is only -3 arrows and you should have +6, meaning you can bleed plus have 4 monsters and not even drop below maximum. You should also be able to take 9-12 monsters and bleed at the same time by using Bonettis Defense and Shield of Judgement to space out their hits.
Plus might I add that Essense Bond is useless against Dryders who cast all the time, and Blessed Sig makes up for it in versatility.
I think you need to re-examine how you were using the skills in that build.
MiteeThoR
I tried the V.3 build and it sucks. mending+watchfull spirit = < healing breeze. Your build fogoes essence bond for two healing enchants that you have to maintain, and it DOES NOT prevent you from bleeding to death. Also, you DO NOT have the time to cast shield of judgement vs them. You CANNOT sacrifice exxence bond.
with my build I can take on more aatxes than with yours and I do about the same dmg as you say you can do.
PS- the divine boon + zealots fire works well but I dont use that one
also, for those of you thinking taking the foclli that negs 50 health is smart, do the math. You are getting one or two hits more than taking the 105 build, plus you have lower health window if your breeze is interrupted while bleeding, PLUS you give up the bonus of energy and recharge from either the monk staff or proper icon.
I think you haven't thought this through all the way. With 105HP that means you take 5 dmg per hit. With a max Healing breeze you can heal 20HP per second, which is 4 monster hits per second. If you are bleeding then it's 7 arrows or 14HP per second, which is not even 3 monster hits.
You also have to cast it maybe 5-6 times per minute at 60 energy, and there is a chance yours can get (fatally) interrupted meaning you may have to cast more like 7-8 times per minute. You are spending a lot of time and energy re-casting a healing spell you don't need.
With 55HP, you take only 2 dmg per hit because of rounding, and with Mending+Watchful spirit on you can heal 6 hits per second. Plus I never have to spend any points healing because mine is on all the time and it can't get interrupted.
Now when you use Bonettis or Shielf of Judgement, the attack rate drops from about 1 attack per person every 1.25 seconds to 1 attack per monster every 3-4 seconds, which means you can effectively take a mob of 18-24, without using a single healing spell.
I don't see how it's possible you bled to death - bleeding is only -3 arrows and you should have +6, meaning you can bleed plus have 4 monsters and not even drop below maximum. You should also be able to take 9-12 monsters and bleed at the same time by using Bonettis Defense and Shield of Judgement to space out their hits.
Plus might I add that Essense Bond is useless against Dryders who cast all the time, and Blessed Sig makes up for it in versatility.
I think you need to re-examine how you were using the skills in that build.
MiteeThoR
Dragou Du Porzan
I've tried miteethor's build and I can confirm it's outstanding for raw survivability. You'd have to be extremely negligent to bleed to death using this build. Essence Bond is redundant when you're carrying Blessed Sig. And Bonetti's provides ample opportunity to get SoJ up. I personally run with a different build because I find that while I enjoy the safety that miteethor's setup provides, I appreciate the faster killing speed of my own build. This is particularly true vs. Coldfires, where BS's casting time goes from 2 to 6 seconds thanks to Rust. Of course a lot of people skip Coldfires entirely, and if you do then that's clearly something you don't have to worry about.
That's what is ultimately so great about these Monk soloing builds: there are so many different variations that are equally workable depending on individual play styles. But it's just silly to say that miteethor's build sucks, since it obviously works for him and a number of people here. If you're that confident that your build can go toe to toe with his, post it up here and let the masses decide. If you don't want to publicize your build, that's fine too... but don't just take potshots from the sidelines. Nothing cool about that.
That's what is ultimately so great about these Monk soloing builds: there are so many different variations that are equally workable depending on individual play styles. But it's just silly to say that miteethor's build sucks, since it obviously works for him and a number of people here. If you're that confident that your build can go toe to toe with his, post it up here and let the masses decide. If you don't want to publicize your build, that's fine too... but don't just take potshots from the sidelines. Nothing cool about that.
FFF_WarRaven
ok just a few thoughts.
Im basically using miteethor's version execpt that i don't have shield of judgement yet, so for the time i tried signet of judgement it was ok but took too long to recharge, my last few tries i used mending +4 after casting prot bond for the -1 and respec'n to max smiting and adding to divine fav, and using symbol of wrath, casting it after i cast bonetti's and take a few hit's to regain energy, that works well as if u time it right bonnetti's won't end untill symbol is finished casting, and of course throwing in bal's arua.
Now for me this works good if i donot aggro more than 2-3 axes, sometimes i can get 3 and a group of graspings no more than 5 so total of 7-8 in a mob, but, when getting more than that aggroed sometimes even just the 3 axes i seem to take quite a bit of damage, energy doesn't seem to be much of a problem.
Now i mix it up between 105 and 85 as i do not have the -50 from the asclon cities quest, even at 85 it seems slightly tuff with larger mobs, I have myself bleed to death but that includes getting hit by 5-8 creatures.
One thing for certain is i need to be very careful with 4 or more atxes, or with more than 8 graspings, and for the 5 times i tried this just this morning smites seem to eat me alive and i cannot understand why, talking about 5-6 of em.
Miteethor's build has helped me a lot and has made it farther than the other builds i have tried and expermented with, i am going to try dropping the essence bond, and adding watchful spirit, as the 1 energy per taken hit seems like a waste esp when bonetti's give 5 per atxes fill the bar easy, same with graspings, smites i need to test a bit more as i haven't had much luck with them.
Not sure how i feel about zelots fire and db together, that needs a bit more testing as well for me anyway.
I'd just like to thank eveyone here who has added to this thread, even if uw is nerfed, no build is perfect esp with so many different people trying this concept out, it has made me change the way i look at builds, and building them it's put a lot of fun back into going into the uw for me, oh and i did pick up 1 glob this morning hehe wish they would drop more often tho :P
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Im basically using miteethor's version execpt that i don't have shield of judgement yet, so for the time i tried signet of judgement it was ok but took too long to recharge, my last few tries i used mending +4 after casting prot bond for the -1 and respec'n to max smiting and adding to divine fav, and using symbol of wrath, casting it after i cast bonetti's and take a few hit's to regain energy, that works well as if u time it right bonnetti's won't end untill symbol is finished casting, and of course throwing in bal's arua.
Now for me this works good if i donot aggro more than 2-3 axes, sometimes i can get 3 and a group of graspings no more than 5 so total of 7-8 in a mob, but, when getting more than that aggroed sometimes even just the 3 axes i seem to take quite a bit of damage, energy doesn't seem to be much of a problem.
Now i mix it up between 105 and 85 as i do not have the -50 from the asclon cities quest, even at 85 it seems slightly tuff with larger mobs, I have myself bleed to death but that includes getting hit by 5-8 creatures.
One thing for certain is i need to be very careful with 4 or more atxes, or with more than 8 graspings, and for the 5 times i tried this just this morning smites seem to eat me alive and i cannot understand why, talking about 5-6 of em.
Miteethor's build has helped me a lot and has made it farther than the other builds i have tried and expermented with, i am going to try dropping the essence bond, and adding watchful spirit, as the 1 energy per taken hit seems like a waste esp when bonetti's give 5 per atxes fill the bar easy, same with graspings, smites i need to test a bit more as i haven't had much luck with them.
Not sure how i feel about zelots fire and db together, that needs a bit more testing as well for me anyway.
I'd just like to thank eveyone here who has added to this thread, even if uw is nerfed, no build is perfect esp with so many different people trying this concept out, it has made me change the way i look at builds, and building them it's put a lot of fun back into going into the uw for me, oh and i did pick up 1 glob this morning hehe wish they would drop more often tho
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Ka RaTae
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Originally Posted by HowardJones
ok...
I tried the V.3 build and it sucks. mending+watchfull spirit = < healing breeze. Your build fogoes essence bond for two healing enchants that you have to maintain, and it DOES NOT prevent you from bleeding to death. Also, you DO NOT have the time to cast shield of judgement vs them. You CANNOT sacrifice exxence bond.
Dude...are you on ludes? Did you have a mending of 4 or did you do something stupid and have a mending of 1? Did you actually run this with the correct setup? You have to have the 55 health. What does essense bond have to do with any of what you just said? If you can't get a shield off, then you aren't playing the build correctly....cast it when bonnetis defense is on. I think it sounds more like you are trashing the build because you do not understand how to play it or the game or the area.
I tried the V.3 build and it sucks. mending+watchfull spirit = < healing breeze. Your build fogoes essence bond for two healing enchants that you have to maintain, and it DOES NOT prevent you from bleeding to death. Also, you DO NOT have the time to cast shield of judgement vs them. You CANNOT sacrifice exxence bond.
Dude...are you on ludes? Did you have a mending of 4 or did you do something stupid and have a mending of 1? Did you actually run this with the correct setup? You have to have the 55 health. What does essense bond have to do with any of what you just said? If you can't get a shield off, then you aren't playing the build correctly....cast it when bonnetis defense is on. I think it sounds more like you are trashing the build because you do not understand how to play it or the game or the area.
kleps
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Originally Posted by Ka RaTae
Dude...are you on ludes? Did you have a mending of 4 or did you do something stupid and have a mending of 1? Did you actually run this with the correct setup? You have to have the 55 health. What does essense bond have to do with any of what you just said? If you can't get a shield off, then you aren't playing the build correctly....cast it when bonnetis defense is on. I think it sounds more like you are trashing the build because you do not understand how to play it or the game or the area.
i completely agree. i think the build works just fine and it is not limited to only being used in the UW. check your skill points. are you utilizing your skills correctly?
Krank
Where has the -50 icon gone?
The ascalon cities quest doesnt have that anymore
The ascalon cities quest doesnt have that anymore
Melkor of ZoSo
I see you've been soloing FoW too....
Any tutorial on that?
Any tutorial on that?