UW Solo Mo/W Build and Tutorial

Senior Creft

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2005

Everlasting Crusaders

W/Mo

12 Aug 2005 at 22:25 - 441
UM sorry if this is stupid but just brainstorming
what if u used something like

Divine boon
bonnetti's defense
Bals Aura
zealots fire
protective bond
essence bond
bals spirirt
MEND CONDITION


That way when u take on attaxes u can mend and the mend will heal u fully prtty much.

Thanks i havent tried it yet b/c we dont have favor but if u see any flaws please tell me

Melkor of ZoSo

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

12 Aug 2005 at 22:27 - 442
It may have been mentioned before, Capitalist, but it's a freaking 18 page thread. Really read through all of that when it takes 20 seconds for someone to type an answer for me? Ha.... amusing really

Pandora's box

Pandora's box

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

Netherlands

Mo/W

13 Aug 2005 at 00:02 - 443
Allthough Anet wont nerf skills its obvious they are not happy with this build: consider the taking away of the -50 health icon and the recent adding of bleeding/deep wound on Aatxe. Generally the last thing will only make regular UW runs with a party more difficult. For me its not important to get fashion gear, I just like the challence of going solo. I find it sad that Anet seems to oppose the concept of soloing...

Mygo

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

13 Aug 2005 at 03:36 - 444
You can't use mend condition on yourself, you must use mend ailment. There isn't any real problem dealing with the Aatxes anyhow. You don't need mend ailment to survive and it doesn't really increase the rate at which you kill them.

TideSwayer

TideSwayer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

We Farm Your [?????????s]

13 Aug 2005 at 03:51 - 445
Quote:
Originally Posted by Krank
Where has the -50 icon gone?

The ascalon cities quest doesnt have that anymore They removed it? Lame, ANet. LAME.

I knew I should've gotten one of these for every character. I figured they were going to do something like this. I only bothered to get one. (Could've sold the others for some loot. What's the going market rate for one of these?)

Of all the fixes to nerf this build I'd figure they'd do something like take away the ability to shift attribute points in zones and make attribute refund points FREE in towns/outpost/mission gathering points so you could experiment at will. IMO that's the way it should be, not the way it is now, with free switching at any time but a 250xp cost for every refund point. I also don't see why they allow armor switching at will but didn't put in an armor set toggle (like weapon set toggle) or simply combine the two into a superset toggler. That's ANet for ya.

miteethor

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

13 Aug 2005 at 06:51 - 446
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pandora's box
Allthough Anet wont nerv skills its obvious they are not happy with this build: consider the taking away of the -50 health icon and the recent adding of bleeding/deep wound on Aatxe. Generally the last thing will only make regular UW runs with a party more difficult. For me its not important to get fashion gear, I just like the challence of going solo. I find it sad that Anet seems to oppose the concept of soloing... -50 is there. It doesn't say it as the reward but when you do the quest you will see it's a -50. Also, they have been causing Bleeding and Deep Wounds since before this thread started, it's nothing new.

And for Melkor, this question has been answered no less than 5 times already in this thread, and if you had bothered to even read some of it you would have known instead of making it even more cumbersome by filling it with useless and duplicate misinformation, as well as this totally useless response. I don't see why anyone should go out of there way to help someone who is too lazy to hit the search button.

Krank

Krank

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

W/

13 Aug 2005 at 07:03 - 447
Miteethor, have a question about the quest itself

How do you do it lol? i went inside surmia (the first stop) and nothing is in there?

Pandora's box

Pandora's box

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

Netherlands

Mo/W

13 Aug 2005 at 10:42 - 448
Quote:
Originally Posted by miteethor
-50 is there. It doesn't say it as the reward but when you do the quest you will see it's a -50. Also, they have been causing Bleeding and Deep Wounds since before this thread started, it's nothing new. I know bleeding and deep woulds were there earlier, I only never experienced Aatxe to cast them in a cumulative way: In all my earlier runs a 4 Mending compensated the casting of 3-6 Aatxe easily, today I was only able to take out 2-3 Aatxe at once, using the same variation on the 3.0 build (Symbol of Wrath instead of Watchfull Spririt for more dmg).

Edit: (Whe rereading 'all my earlier runs' I realize it were not that many runs since Europe does not have favor so often lol! So maybe I just ran out of luck today and should return to the build with Watchfull spirit)

HowardJones

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

13 Aug 2005 at 12:50 - 449
ok maybe I didnt try the buuild more than once. yes I had 6 regen on health and your right about taking a lot of hits with the 105 build, but I use a different build that I preffer anyway, without using that icon. Maybe it does work and I was too impatient. All I know is I stepped into 5 aatxes and never got my bonnetis charged in time to even cast SoJ before I bled to death, and kept getting interupted.

Melkor of ZoSo

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

13 Aug 2005 at 16:01 - 450
Too lazy to hit the search button? Do you know how many results come up for "solo" and "FoW"??

If you dont want to help, then dont help. But dont be negative either. If no one wants to help, well then I'll go and look. Real mature of you.

miteethor

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

13 Aug 2005 at 17:41 - 451
1. You should read the whole thread. There is much more information than on the first post. That was more of a "Beta" build and there are a number of other builds that solve some critical flaws from the first one, all of which are viable and have different strengths and weaknesses. It also contains multitudes of strategies for dealing with all of the different enemies you will find in UW

2. If you had read any part of the thread you would realize that Protective Bond will reduce all damage to 5% of your HP regardless of your armor, so you can use pre-searing if you want. Most people choose the tatoos for the energy bonus as the rest is irrelevant. Lions Arch Tatoos are the cheapest to obtain.

3. I still think you are lazy

MiteeThoR

Melkor of ZoSo

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

13 Aug 2005 at 18:31 - 452
Now look... in the time you've spent flaming me and making yourself look like an ass, you could've probably just typed 8 skills and been on your way, making yourself twice as useful and half as obnoxious.

Pandora's box

Pandora's box

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

Netherlands

Mo/W

13 Aug 2005 at 20:53 - 453
Melkor, many people who tell someone to search the forum before asking can answer the question with the same effort. And they probably did many times until they got tired of answering the same questions over and over. Its no flaming, just a way of self protection. But I understand that knowing someone who can just give the answer but does not do it may cause a spontanious reaction of one of the fingers . Just try to see both sides of the story.

VengeanceRTD

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2005

RTD

13 Aug 2005 at 21:02 - 454
miteethors Build (post number 275) is the best I have tried yet! Thank you miteethor I can stand there and let 6 or more Blade aataxes <---sp Beat on me all day long with no problems! Only thing is I don't have Shield of Judgment yet so I use Symbol of Wrath until I get SoJ.

Thanks miteethor

VengeanceRTD

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2005

RTD

13 Aug 2005 at 21:36 - 455
Quote:
Originally Posted by Melkor of ZoSo
Now look... in the time you've spent flaming me and making yourself look like an ass, you could've probably just typed 8 skills and been on your way, making yourself twice as useful and half as obnoxious.
But he has already, go read post #275. Has all you will need.

TideSwayer

TideSwayer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

We Farm Your [?????????s]

13 Aug 2005 at 23:45 - 456
Quote:
Originally Posted by Krank
Miteethor, have a question about the quest itself

How do you do it lol? i went inside surmia (the first stop) and nothing is in there? Are you talking about finding the historical monument of Surmia for the Cities quest? You have to go into the Ruin of Surmia mission (already stated by you, but just reiterating for anyone else who needs to know) to get it. It's near the far end on a hillside just past the river, which means you have to play through the mission a ways to get to the site. You can't really run there either, as this is an 'escort Rurik' quest and leaving him alone means he will most certainly die before you can get to the place. You have to stick with Rurik until he gets to the drawbridge, then you can go the rest of the way alone as he leaves you to go around and lower it (don't bother with this - no need to get to the site).

If you have the Cities quest on your mission log, the green marker will show up in the mission map once you enter RoS.

EDIT: So the -50 item HASN'T been removed? Just a misunderstanding from one of the earlier posters in this thread?

Pandora's box

Pandora's box

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

Netherlands

Mo/W

14 Aug 2005 at 10:35 - 457
Quote:
Originally Posted by TideSwayer
EDIT: So the -50 item HASN'T been removed? Just a misunderstanding from one of the earlier posters in this thread? I did the quest yesterday and got the -50 as a reward (and it realy makes a lot of difference!)

spiritofcat

spiritofcat

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2005

Sydney, Australia

Order of the Sanguine Dragon [OSD]

E/Mo

14 Aug 2005 at 10:57 - 458
Quote:
Originally Posted by miteethor
Before you debate whether to take breeze or boon, please try my V3.0 build in this thread. I don't take either, and I never need to heal and I never bleed to death. I also have a ton of energy available with both Bonettis and Blessed Signet at my disposal.

Also, Blessed Signet DOES work in UW, just not against Grasping darkness. However, you can use it against Ataxes, Smites, Coldfires, and Dryders. It even works inside a Malestrom because a signet isn't a spell therefore isn't interrupted. And Bonettis works against Ataxes, Grasping Darkness, and Smites but not Coldfires or Dryders, so by bringing both I can do anything I want. Does your V3.0 build work for an E/Mo? Remember that's what I am. I can't have level 17 protection or any of that nonsence.

miteethor

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

14 Aug 2005 at 12:26 - 459
Quote:
Originally Posted by spiritofcat
Does your V3.0 build work for an E/Mo? Remember that's what I am. I can't have level 17 protection or any of that nonsence. No, V3.0 is designed around 17 protection

TideSwayer

TideSwayer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

We Farm Your [?????????s]

14 Aug 2005 at 12:41 - 460
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pandora's box
I did the quest yesterday and got the -50 as a reward (and it realy makes a lot of difference!) Yeah, I just did the Cities quest with one of my other characters and got another -50. Still available.

Rob2010

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2005

14 Aug 2005 at 16:00 - 461
is solo UW really worth it that much since ecto price is so low, if ur there for stormbows and eternal shields the chances of them being rare is slim to none, not worth it now imo

cat1982

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Order of the Skull

14 Aug 2005 at 16:05 - 462
definitely still worth it, had a great run earlier, the cash drops alone make it worthwhile IMO, i mean, what do u really want money for? If u want 700k+ sitting in ur storage soloing UW might not be the quickest way to get it, but if u just wanna make enough so u will have more then u can spend, UW is quick and easy, and Ectos r still worth 10k, u can sell em to a merchant for 7.5k (last time i checked) but they arent in stock, people want them, people will still have to pay 10k for em

C
Xxx

Rin

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

14 Aug 2005 at 17:11 - 463
I have a question:

What is your health before the -75 runes?

FFF_WarRaven

FFF_WarRaven

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

Behind the black shroud.

FFF

R/Me

14 Aug 2005 at 17:17 - 464
i made a total 100k yesterday solo'n the uw, and that was just gold drops(gp) of course i played all day, and collected 5 ectos and a buncha materails, and for someone like me looking for specific weapon or items for other characters that i don't seem to be able to get just getting drops it's def worth it,i need the cash, your talking about a 3-5k per run, plus if your looking to get fissure armor, you can collect ectos and save yourself some cash.

:::End Transmission:::

FFF_WarRaven

FFF_WarRaven

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

Behind the black shroud.

FFF

R/Me

14 Aug 2005 at 17:29 - 465
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rin
I have a question:

What is your health before the -75 runes? 480-425=55 (75x5+50=425)

:::End Transmission::::::

Rin

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

14 Aug 2005 at 17:37 - 466
monk only has 4 superior runes right? Not 5?

NeVerMinD

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

15 Aug 2005 at 07:50 - 467
.. and it turns all in circles ..

Green-Tea

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

Thee Fallen

Mo/W

15 Aug 2005 at 08:12 - 468
Quote:
Weapon Set 1:
Protective Icon
Energy +8
Protection Prayers +1 (20% Chance while using skills)
Health +30
-Obtained from collector north of Lions Arch by the Caromi Tengu Boss/Imp anyone wanna show me (screenshot) where that is because i cant find it, thnx

VengeanceRTD

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2005

RTD

15 Aug 2005 at 12:37 - 469
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob2010
is solo UW really worth it that much since ecto price is so low, if ur there for stormbows and eternal shields the chances of them being rare is slim to none, not worth it now imo
Not to brag or anything but after building my monk up and getting set for UW, I had just over 7K left in storage. And now after 4 days of Soloing UW I have around 218K in storage. And Now I'm about done with it. Im good waiting for the summer (fall) update to come out. And Im not greedy either, Every storm/eternal bow I get thats not purple or gold I take to Ascolon city and give to a low level Ranger for free!


Quote:
Originally Posted by Rin
monk only has 4 superior runes right? Not 5?
Yes, so you just double up on one. Something cheap, you wont get the points from it, but you will get the -75hp.

kleps

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

W/Mo

15 Aug 2005 at 16:53 - 470
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob2010
is solo UW really worth it that much since ecto price is so low, if ur there for stormbows and eternal shields the chances of them being rare is slim to none, not worth it now imo they may be slim to none, but say that to my unided rare storm bow of req 10. i think i'll hold it for a little while.

the whole point is that if you dont try, you wont get anything.

Fistandantulus

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

Mo/

15 Aug 2005 at 17:40 - 471
wow i finally finished reading the whole thing, nice builds but if someone can think of something similar but with an e/mo i would be even happier.
this is my current build:

energy storage 16
smite 12

draw conditions/symbol of wrath
divine boon
ether renewal (gives 5 energy and 21 health per cast at this lvl for anyone curious)
balthazars spirit
aura of restoration
zealots fire
and i cant think of a good last skill

PhAnToM

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2005

GwX

Mo/W

16 Aug 2005 at 01:15 - 472
The collector's item for +1 prot prayers can be found here:

spiritofcat

spiritofcat

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2005

Sydney, Australia

Order of the Sanguine Dragon [OSD]

E/Mo

16 Aug 2005 at 04:49 - 473
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fistandantulus
wow i finally finished reading the whole thing, nice builds but if someone can think of something similar but with an e/mo i would be even happier.
this is my current build:

energy storage 16
smite 12

draw conditions/symbol of wrath
divine boon
ether renewal (gives 5 energy and 21 health per cast at this lvl for anyone curious)
balthazars spirit
aura of restoration
zealots fire
and i cant think of a good last skill I do well with an E/Mo, using only about 8 energy storage, that's including the +4 from sup rune and headgear.
The rest of my points go into smiting, protection and healing.
Smiting is maxed, healing is at the level that gives +3 mending and protection is high enough to give about 15 sec prot. bond
I use Balth's Aura, Ether Renewal, Zealot's Fire, Healing Breeze or Divine Boon, Prot. Bond, Mending, Balth's Spirit and Essence Bond.

Green-Tea

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

Thee Fallen

Mo/W

16 Aug 2005 at 04:52 - 474
Quote:
Originally Posted by PhAnToM
The collector's item for +1 prot prayers can be found here: thanks

Zackile Greenbirth

Zackile Greenbirth

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

UK

R/

16 Aug 2005 at 06:52 - 475
I was thinking about Blessed Aura........and whether to swich it with Sheild of Judgement

SoJ works verywell for coldfires in UW and if you agrro too many foe's
But With Blessed Aura (and weapon upgrade with Enchant 20% longer) you could cast Balth Aura and it will recharge before it finishs soo you could have it constantly.

But would losing SoJ be too big of a loss?

I'm going to try 1 run with it......i'll post back if it works well

miteethor

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

16 Aug 2005 at 13:53 - 476
SoJ has the advantage that it works on ranged attackers, such as coldfires and terrorwebs(when they are out of energy to cast that is)

I believe Bleesed Aura costs you an arrow doesn't it? You have to be careful about running -5 arrows because the wrong drain can kill your Protective Bond...

tanwarv

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

16 Aug 2005 at 21:27 - 477
First of all, thanks miteethor for a great build.

I've been fairly successful using it in the UW. I've been trying to use it in FoW and keep running into energy issues against shadow monks/shadow warriors in particular. Right now, I have 48 energy with flat regen. I can cast SoJ, then balth aura, and I'm down to 8. I cast blessed signet and I can get back up to around 20. However, SoJ is not recharged yet, and I don't have enough energy to cast aura again, so I have to wait; meanwhile the targets heal too quickly. If I'm getting hit fast enough I can cast bonetti's, but all to often I'm not getting hit often enough.

I was thinking... would it be dangerous to switch to temporarily switch to either a +15 energy / -1 regen wand or +27/-1 focus (or even both)? As long as I keep my energy above zero, my enchants should stay up, and I think I should net about 34 more energy that way.

I'll try this out tonight, but was curious if anyone else tried this...

corky

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

BUST

W/Mo

16 Aug 2005 at 21:29 - 478
the only items i see as a reward for the cities quest are ones for earth and blood magic, nothing monk-like. still possible to get one? sorry if this has been explained, but i read the entire thread and it said nothing about this. am i supposed to use the one for earth or blood magic (even though i wont get any energy bonus)? help appreciated.

NIB

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

LF top 100 guild

E/Me

16 Aug 2005 at 23:35 - 479
You should use the blood focus and yes it wont give you that much energy. But who cares about energy?

kleps

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

W/Mo

17 Aug 2005 at 00:02 - 480
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zackile Greenbirth
I was thinking about Blessed Aura........and whether to swich it with Sheild of Judgement

SoJ works verywell for coldfires in UW and if you agrro too many foe's
But With Blessed Aura (and weapon upgrade with Enchant 20% longer) you could cast Balth Aura and it will recharge before it finishs soo you could have it constantly.

But would losing SoJ be too big of a loss?

I'm going to try 1 run with it......i'll post back if it works well the kicker with SoJ is the knockdown effect. it helps a lot when you are constantly being attacked. depending on your build, you need that extra second of downtime to cast healing breeze or whatever you use to heal.

once again, all depending on your build.