OMG The Prices!

Autumn_Leaf

Autumn_Leaf

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Taunton, Mass.

i heard that prices are gonna be more stable. my friend told me tha prices aren't going to climb as much as befroe. if you read the update they also made the traders from all servers sell the same stock.

Ultimate_Gaara

Ultimate_Gaara

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

BC, Canada.. how aboot that eh?

All i can say is im sorry Korea and Europe, these Americans love going on shoping sprees, say hello to 1k purple dye and 80K black dye...

well it looks like everyone got what they wanted, a million dollars woth of stuff in under 10 minutes, now i expect to never see anyone complain about the econ ever again... ever!

KainShadow

KainShadow

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2005

Legacy of Abyss

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Wow that's nice, i missed this...
well i'll log in and again i'll try to drop some ectoplasms, we got the favor in eu now..
I wanted the fissure armor from the first month of release and i'm at 50 ectoplasm, NONE bought all dropped in groups...
Wow it's nice to see that all others people here bought 100-200 ectos for 100 gold each...

free4all

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Yeah 750 ecto for less than 200k is ludacris. And it happened.

Angelina

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Yes very nice, "how to make millions in a few minutes".
I think it's too much for me. Never seen a such unbalanced game. Bye guildwars

Onito

Onito

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

Death Boring Sweden

Clan Plus

Mo/Me

donate too the poor europeans..

we never have favor änd we are a sleep or the game isnt working when all the americans are making loads of money,.. i hate the US even more now XD

Akilles

Akilles

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Brothers of the Jade

to bad i missed the ecto super sale 330gp *cries lika a baby* but at least i got in enough to buy monk runes, saphires and rubies and some black dye.

I WOULD say that i doubt prices will change much, the reaon we had high prices was that nobody EVER sold to the trader since they got ripped off. NOW since the update and i did notice it, the traders buy at great prices...1 ruby 3.5k sell to trader for 3k. Now that ppl will sell to the trader so they dont have to shop their goods around shold keep prices steady. BUT it is hard to see this as u guys say prices went from 330gp for ecto to 9k already. prices are almost normal, cept for monk runes.

What time did this wonderful event happen, i must have been at work

see how work ruines your life!!!!! I coulda been SO rich, but no i had to make money...that make sense?

Onito

Onito

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

Death Boring Sweden

Clan Plus

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Angelina
Yes very nice, "how to make millions in a few minutes".
I think it's too much for me. Never seen a such unbalanced game. Bye guildwars
Yeah, unbalanced. ANd all stupid ppl in AN and NCS, hope ur happy.......

Quinn Falcon

Quinn Falcon

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2005

UK, Manchester

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ultimate_Gaara
All i can say is im sorry Korea and Europe, these Americans love going on shoping sprees, say hello to 1k purple dye and 80K black dye...

well it looks like everyone got what they wanted, a million dollars woth of stuff in under 10 minutes, now i expect to never see anyone complain about the econ ever again... ever!
Except europe and korea who just got a big old price boost and a midnight (mid-day for korea) shopping spree, though I suppose those who hoarded items before have more effective wealth now though, and this just introduced god knows how much gold into the game for nothing. Bah swings and roundabouts

DiAnna

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

.... Wow. I was feeling pretty good about my personal financial state because my W/Mo20 finally ascended, hit Drokar's with enough money to get her 1.5K set of armor and still had 30K left over. Then I come here feeling pretty danged smug, and read how y'all are thrilled to have "only" lost 100k or so buying investment stuff on speculation?

So much for that warm, fuzzy feeling I used to get when I'd sell a half-dozen gold/purple weapons that I'd spent 20 game hours finding, and make a whopping 3.5K on the deal! Way to make me feel like a dirt-poor failure all over again. The heck with all this exhaustive adventuring stuff. I'm going into the rare material trading business! *grin*

[/end tongue-in-cheek joking mode]

Angelina

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Onito did you just make millions ?

Onito

Onito

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

Death Boring Sweden

Clan Plus

Mo/Me

no Angelina, unforunaly my game isnt working, I am just thinking about these ppl, who getts the idea! " HEY!!, lets restarting the prices in the midddle of the day for america (the most crowded server) so that the economy will be all good again, and everybody will be happy and i will gett a raise" is so fvcking stupid!!!

Ultimate_Gaara

Ultimate_Gaara

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

BC, Canada.. how aboot that eh?

Ironic isnt it, moan and complain and finaly you get what you want, only to have your own kind screw you over (they gave you low prices and now you make it high again.. tisk tisk)... Don't say Anet never did anything for the people

Onito

Onito

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

Death Boring Sweden

Clan Plus

Mo/Me

ahem,,,... americans

Dyeeo

Dyeeo

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

San Diego

Lost Children

E/Mo

NO, I did not buy and ectos or anything for very cheap (I missed it)
YES, I am happy about this update.

Sure some people are going to be filthy rich, but now do you realize how saturated the market is with those "rare" items? The traders seem to be fixed, things will return to normal.

Angelina

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Oh yes gaara they do, fixing the prices is 1 thing, giving 700 ectos for 200k is an other.

Ultimate_Gaara

Ultimate_Gaara

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

BC, Canada.. how aboot that eh?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Angelina
Oh yes gaara they do, fixing the prices is 1 thing, giving 700 ectos for 200k is an other.
ya and i would not be suprized to see that it was just to shut some people up...

I think Anet did the right thing, they did what people wanted, sadly most people (unlike me) abused this and now we are back at square one, congradulations mass buyers you are your own monster now... it is no long Anet's problem

Krank

Krank

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

W/

my god i wish i woulda cashed in on the ecto
Ida easily bought 500k worth

I want fissure SOOOO bad

Angelina

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

gaara, honestly, if you go to the merchant and see ectos for 300 gold each, you won't buy ?

ManadartheHealer

ManadartheHealer

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Awaiting GW2

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OMG I missed the gold rush

*cries and rocks himself to sleep*

But , I knew yesterday the high prices would never hold, and I sold off many things (like dye)

Krank

Krank

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

W/

That is a lie if he say no

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=HT=Ingram

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2005

Anchorage Alaska

Haz Team [HT]

R/W

That all some of these guys do. the actually Never play. all they do is hoard... that's why I originally wanted it so you could only buy so many till getting rid of or using them. But Arenanet didn't go for it... Still the Sole reason the prices are back up there is the hoarders hogging all the items and NOT using them, or selling back to NPCs. they did it for the sole reason to protect their precious market. When NO ONE sells to NPCs the price never comes down. and that's just wrong. Cause these people in turn go and sell their gold to Gold Retailers for Cash. That's how those companies work. so every time you buy from a player instead of a NPC you are supporting cheaters. FACT!!! There are a few legitimate dealers but not many. 80% are nothing more then Gold suppliers for those kinds of operations that sell in game gold to CHEATERS. Most of these people doing this do not even play the game all they do is this. thus destroying the game further. I'm not surprised these kinds of operations have shown up in every game of its kind in existence... but no one cares. why should they... they don't give a shit for anything, or respect anything, so why should anyone expect anything from them. the kinds of people that play these games are as worthless as humans as they come. I am one of them I should know. The best thing we could do for society as a whole is cut our reproductive organs off our bodies and discontinue our waste of gene pull for the future. cause the fact that people like this can procreate, is the worst thing I can imagine for the future.

Ultimate_Gaara

Ultimate_Gaara

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

BC, Canada.. how aboot that eh?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Angelina
gaara, honestly, if you go to the merchant and see ectos for 300 gold each, you won't buy ?
i saw them for like 9k and the shards for like 1k, i didnt want them because im not greedy and i think the fow armor is ugly... so i didnt buy anything, i just wanted to see what everyone was talking about

edwinna elbert

edwinna elbert

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Well, I was pretty happy after I got oyut of Tombs to sell soem steel and I saw Ecto for 230g, I already had the elementalists fissure boots and leggings, but I got the materials to finish the set (20 shards and 39 ectoplasms) for about 10k, then Europe took the favour and I formed a good group went straight in there and got the rest of the aeromancer set Now my inventory is full of stuff (five sets of armour and five sets of wands/artifacts) and I'm happy.

I kind of feel I deserved it anyway after finishing the Fissure and Undworld soooooo many times (well, I've never actually got to the Spawning Pools reaper, but hey).

There will be a few thousand people who may become veery rich now though. What will people do with their millions?

Starbeast

Starbeast

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Cold Plains of the Midland States

The Lost Number (TLN)

Bah to bad I missed out on the insane deals.. DOH! Oh well I'm no worse off than I was I guess. I got lucky when steel glitched and I was able to make a couple hundred thousand thou there was a couple items I've been waiting to buy Black Dye being one of them I would've liked a few for color customizations to items and armor and I was looking forward to the E/MO UW/SOLO build so I needed all the superior Ele runes I wonder what they are sitting at. not to meantion ecto and shards would be nice for a full set of FOW armor I have the FOW helm for my warrior and thats all I want for him but I would like the full elementalist set.


win some, lose some! Does this make you worse off than you were? I doubt it, prices were just as high before and I bet the prices will even out as everyone now wants to sell back to the trader with their increased purchase power if the traders buying items that cost 3.5k at 3k to make a quick profit.
There will be a few players that will be hoarding item for awhile but If they dont act soon with those items I bet you'll get burnt in the end... well maybe i wouldn't say burnt but instead of selling something back to the trader at 30k now I bet it will only be 25k in a week then 20k two weeks and so forth until it evens out. especially with Europe/Korea/USA all distributing the same items and prices. things will move a lot faster now i Bet..

Just my thoughts and Hopes

Starbeast

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Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2005

Anchorage Alaska

Haz Team [HT]

R/W

And yes I bought things for Myself for Equipping. But not for reselling. I give up on the community as a whole. its worthless and should be discarded as a legitimate trade system.. Why? cause it doesn't exists. the trade button Should be removed. completely. Purchase and sell only to NPCs and then you have a fair market. But this will NEVER happen.

Artemis Bladewing

Artemis Bladewing

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Usually Lions Arch 2

Clan Brotherhood

Mo/Me

uhm... I dont know about you guys but dosnt Anet work with ppl who got a life? So they bring in their updates during their working hours. If they work in Amerika, well lucky americans, cuz they get to see the new update first. Its not like they all work at midnight just to make the europeans happy.

Ultimate_Gaara

Ultimate_Gaara

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

BC, Canada.. how aboot that eh?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Artemis Bladewing
uhm... I dont know about you guys but dosnt Anet work with ppl who got a life? So they bring in their updates during their working hours. If they work in Amerika, well lucky americans, cuz they get to see the new update first. Its not like they all work at midnight just to make the europeans happy.
people don't understand Anet does not revolve around their scedual... which im sure would be nice... but no, they do not

Artemis Bladewing

Artemis Bladewing

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Usually Lions Arch 2

Clan Brotherhood

Mo/Me

"people don't understand Anet does not revolve around their scedual"

If they dont revolve around THEIR schedule, whos schedule do they revolve around???

Starbeast

Starbeast

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Cold Plains of the Midland States

The Lost Number (TLN)

WHO CARES ABOUT A SCHEDULE!!!! the fact is someones mad they missed out on becoming a millionaire suck it up people, YOUR NO WORSE OFF!!!



AND NO I'M NOT A MILLIONAIRE FROM TODAYS RESET, FOR ANYONE THAT WANTS TO FLAME ME FOR SAYING THE ABOVE I'VE BEEN AT WORK.

MaglorD

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Night Daftshadow
no point in farming anymore. how stupid can ANet be for resetting the prices of superior runes such as vigor and absorption to 100g? gosh, cant they do something right? now the prices are back up for sup vigor and absorption. 40k for vigor and 80k for sup absorption. now for those lucky few that bought sup vigors and absorptions in bulk when it was 100g. ANet, stupid stupid stupid. every stupid thing they do makes me wanna play this game less.
I agree. To make amends, Anet should give all players unlimited gold. Since they're so good at RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing the economy, why not go with the final solution...make gold totally worthless...

aB-

aB-

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

What they should've done is reset the prices to something reasonable, say 8k for an ecto, or 3k for black dye. Under 1k gold for an ecto is just absurd considering how much profit can be made so quickly.

The people that missed this ARE worse off. The ones who caught this become filthy rich with gold. They can then spend their gold carelessly on items that were not incredibly special before. For example,

Player A has Item X
Player B, C, and D want Item X
Player B and C are both incredibly rich because they were able to catch the traders at low prices
Player B and C can affoard to pay more and more as they each keep outbidding each other
Player D has less gold, and can spend less, so can not get an item he would've been able to before the change.

raven214

raven214

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Onito
this updateded sucked,.. now everybodys gonna gett them self a max dmg gold strom bow and fow armor, it aint exclusive anymore..... fvck this update....
I honestly don't understand what you're trying to say here. How did trying to fix the economy make it easier to get a weapon that only comes from drops (or player trades of course)? I can see how it might be easier to get the materials for fow armor, but then again I don't pay much attention to that (don't really care for the "fow" look).

Quote:
Originally Posted by Raco
Oh and thanks anet i have now millions because of the update.In the next update can you add the fissure armor guy to lions arch because i have a bad leg and cant run to far.

Seriously Can anyone please try to explain what the hell anet are trying to acheive
You have millions? I had 10k before the change. I spent it mostly on runes I needed and some dyes I wanted. I now have nothing - which btw is fine with me - I'll make it back eventually. I guess my problem is I play the game, not the market. If you want to give me some of your millions, I won't turn it down. Otherwise, I'm going back to play the game.

gabe99

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Vengeance of the Old Gods

N/W

Well I'm not an economist but why can't they just make traders with endless supplies of items at fixed prices? I'm sure there'd be some problem economically that I don't get but why not like 10k for all sup runes except maybe a lil more for absorbtion and vigor and set prices for dyes, materials and everything. That way you'd have a goal to shoot for and once you reached that amount of cash you could get what you'd been saving for. Also, when you got a good dye drop or something, you'd know the value. You'd know how much the trader will take for it and you'd know how much you could try to sell it to people for. I just get frustrated with all the get rich quick scams that accompany this wildly swinging economy. It's hard to feel good about working for hours and days saving up cash for something (my FoW armor) only to find that while you were gone the economy went crazy and tons of people made more in 5 minutes than I have in a month. I got taken on the steel glitch too. Yeah life's not fair, it's just a game, but at this point I'm bout to say to %!?* with farming and PvE and just go PvP all the way.

BezoomnyDroog

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Tavern Raiders

N/E

Well next time you see "SELLING ECTOS ONLY 6k EACH SELLING FAST BUY NOW" in local channel, you know who was lucky enough to catch the rush.

shinseikaze

shinseikaze

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Dark Side Of The Force

E/Mo

personally i think the idea was good to make all traders in line with each other as far as prices.....but they should of just had a maintenace

Ultimate_Gaara

Ultimate_Gaara

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

BC, Canada.. how aboot that eh?

Quote:
Originally Posted by MaglorD
I agree. To make amends, Anet should give all players unlimited gold. Since they're so good at RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing the economy, why not go with the final solution...make gold totally worthless...
I sure hope your being sarcastic, after all everyone kept saying "fix the econ, we want cheap as free stuff now!"... they never gave Anet a suggetion on how to fix the econ (that would not result in lower prices)... nor did anyone give a time and date, so how were they supost to know little Timmy was AFK for an hour and would miss the big gold rush...

Please ignore these fools Anet, you have bigger fish to catch.. or something

ShinJin Kahn

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

Dragon Slayer Guild

W/Mo

ecto for 2k and I missed it, I actually feel sick now.

EternalTempest

EternalTempest

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

United States

Dark Side Ofthe Moon [DSM]

E/

Quote:
Patch Notes
* Improved traders so that they maintain more stable prices and closer spreads between buy and sell prices.

* Improved traders so that traders from all regions (America, Europe, and Korea) now buy and sell from the same stock and charge the same prices.
Thank You Anet

1. To those that were there for the reset bargain congratz
2. To those that weren't, I'm in the same boat as you.

It's so good to know that anet if doing something about the economy, and I think this is a step in the right direction. With more stable traders making it worth while to sell to the npc again which in theory will cause the sell price to be lower over all and synch all three worlds to the same economy removes the cross server market and much much larger base for prices.

I too wish I could of joined in the buying frenzy but doesn't bother me, this is a game. I know that if they succeeded in droping the value of everything and keeping it there, the traders (not taking npc here) are going to make less money, harder to sell stuff for too much money and generally voice there dislike but I personally think if Anet makes the economy less likely to go out of control so we can concentrate on the playing the game and making it easier to get equipment and stuff

Time will tell if this holds true but even if it's makes the situation better then it was and not to the extent they wanted I'm very happy.

Rossaroni

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

Knight Vision [KnV]

Mo/

Black dye is 7k, silver is 1.3k, shards are 5.5k, ecto is 9k, sup. vigor is 55k, sup. absorption is 85k, you can only buy earth, fire, water, and expertise out of all the other superiors. Hopefully prices will stabilize, but, given ANet's explination of the new system, I don't think it'll help things in the long run. What we need is an objective standard.

I'll repeat that, because I think it's important.

What we need is an objective standard of currency.