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Sandman Uk

Banned

Join Date: May 2005

Uk Leicester

N/R

19 Aug 2005 at 07:50 - 1

Lions arch d1 08:30 GMT

And its live talk not recorded it answered me back as sandman

I will take that as a compliment

IGN SandMan Uk

says

"Before sorrows there will be more exciting news (Have screenie)"

"The tale is told that combatatants and heroes of all kinds will relish in the news to come"

"Something new something fun that cannot be revealed"

"There will indedd be new monsters to combat. And new items to add to your possesions"

"The frog cannot tell of skills.Except to say that all that is known will become known again, in the future".

"Those who serve this world will examine this "Out of stock" matter the frog will ask that they do"

"The frog does not know "nerf" but will say that those who seem invincible will not always seem so"

"The frog believe the story of Gwen is not yet complete"

"The frog has a message before he sleeps: Watch for unheraldednews within the week"

"Something New something not yet revealed"

"And with that, Good day to all Tyrians"

There was alot of talk before but spamming was manic and i couldnt get to capture it

Ultimate_Gaara

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

BC, Canada.. how aboot that eh?

19 Aug 2005 at 08:55 - 2

I still think its someone at Anet.. im not saying they are spying on us.. but its just a fun way to confuse people and answer questions while having fun at the same time.. but then again i could be wrong

i am yet to see this frog..mainly because i hate going to LA

Queto

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Belgium

Dynasty Warriors [DW]

A/W

19 Aug 2005 at 09:00 - 3

Quote:

The frog does not know "nerf" but will say that those who seem invincible will not always seem so

Monk 105/55 build?

corax5

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Ye olde England.

19 Aug 2005 at 10:38 - 4

Quote:

Originally Posted by Queto

Monk 105/55 build?

Same thing I was thinking. And wow, thats quite cool, that stuff throws up loads of possibilites about what could be comming soon.

Kampfkeks

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

19 Aug 2005 at 10:41 - 5

Quote:

Originally Posted by Queto

Monk 105/55 build?

If they do, i hope they nerf the Wa/Mo Healing Exploit too.

Numa Pompilius

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

At an Insit.. Intis... a house.

Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF]

W/Me

19 Aug 2005 at 10:45 - 6

"The tale is told that combatatants and heroes of all kinds will relish in the news to come"

(No doubt. Though on GWguru there will be bitching, moaning, and wringing of hands aplenty!)

"Something new something fun that cannot be revealed"

Event?

"The frog cannot tell of skills.Except to say that all that is known will become known again, in the future".

UAS?

"Those who serve this world will examine this "Out of stock" matter the frog will ask that they do"

OK, they'll look in to it.

"The frog does not know "nerf" but will say that those who seem invincible will not always seem so"

Smacking down the 55/105. Good news for all but the 55/105's, which is, oh, about 1/5th of all players by now, and increasing rapidly. This will spawn the mother of all shitstorms!

"The frog believe the story of Gwen is not yet complete"

(Noone else either. I've even kept an red iris flower!)

wheel

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

Topeka, Kansas

Tyrian Fo Lyfe [word]

19 Aug 2005 at 11:00 - 7

Quote:

Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius

"The frog cannot tell of skills. Except to say that all that is known will become known again, in the future".

UAS?

It said, "In the future," meaning in the future after you grind 10000's of hours.

Tactical-Dillusions

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Grimsby, UK

R/

19 Aug 2005 at 11:26 - 8

Indeed numa. Taking away the 105 build or nerfing it to players disadvantage would cause uproar.
You can't take peoples lollipops away and expect them to settle for apple pie...not everyone likes apple pie, including myself.

Time will tell anyway.

I think i'm going to farm myself to death incase it gets nerfed.

And Mr frog, NERF means Numbing Enjoyment of Repetitive Farming.

I am however glad that there may be more to the Gwen story.

And sandman, rofl. Why did he pick on you? heh. Dancing like a loony in front of the tree? Oh dear.

Than

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Texas

UGLY

Me/N

19 Aug 2005 at 11:35 - 9

Who the hell would choose a lollipop over apple pie? Its APPLE PIE.

Freaks.

StarGatherer

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

On a speck of dirt in a great big place

The Resurrected

19 Aug 2005 at 12:26 - 10

Bring on the fecal storm.Since i have yet to play a monk and because of that i am ridiculed and chastised even with over 600 hours on my Runaway Ranger avatar....woot

Borealis

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Black Rose Gaming

Mo/W

19 Aug 2005 at 13:35 - 11

That frog and it's cryptic messages are starting to get to me...

Soul Shaker

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Sunshine Coast, Australia

Soul Crusaders

19 Aug 2005 at 13:53 - 12

Lol, i gotta see this frog sometime...and i can't wait til the shitstorm comes....TAKE COVER!

Algren Cole

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

19 Aug 2005 at 13:58 - 13

if they kill the invinci-monk build...I will start duping gold and items. There's no way I'm spending hours upon hours farming for fissure armor without an invinci-monk build.

Sandman Uk

Banned

Join Date: May 2005

Uk Leicester

N/R

19 Aug 2005 at 14:19 - 14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tactical-Dillusions

And sandman, rofl. Why did he pick on you? heh. Dancing like a loony in front of the tree? Oh dear.

"I ask when will the law of averages drop me a awersome drop"

He replied Sandman the law of averages is for the average. You are hardly average

Which I take as nothing more than an absoulute compliment.

primal98

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

19 Aug 2005 at 14:21 - 15

You can dupe items? I admire your endurance in farming, I can at most do 1 hr before I plop dead of boredom :P

~prime

primal98

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

19 Aug 2005 at 14:22 - 16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandman Uk

"I ask when will the law of averages drop me a awersome drop"

He replied Sandman the law of averages is for the average. You are hardly average

Which I take as nothing more than an absoulute compliment.

Wait so you can actually talk to this frog? It's not like a programed response thing? Thats waaaaaaaay cool

~prime

Sandman Uk

Banned

Join Date: May 2005

Uk Leicester

N/R

19 Aug 2005 at 14:26 - 17

Yes we thourght it was automated but he was answering questions this morning. And calling me Sandman When IGN is SandMan Uk proves someone was there typing it in

The Frog was still there when I logged out in Lions D1 up on the storage hill under the tree at the back. Might be still there.

MSecorsky

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

So Cal

The Sinister Vanguard

Me/

19 Aug 2005 at 15:09 - 18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandman Uk

"Before sorrows there will be more exciting news (Have screenie)"

Doesn't this lead into Gaile's comment/hint about a Halloween/fall update of some sort?

Quote:

"The tale is told that combatatants and heroes of all kinds will relish in the news to come"

Relish... hmm, food vendors?

Quote:

"Something new something fun that cannot be revealed"

"There will indeed be new monsters to combat. And new items to add to your possesions"

Again, the fall update?

Quote:

"The frog cannot tell of skills.Except to say that all that is known will become known again, in the future".

If not UAS, are there skills from Beta that didn't make the final cut, but should have?

Quote:

"Those who serve this world will examine this "Out of stock" matter the frog will ask that they do"

Hey Frog! Resupply the merchants regularly!

Quote:

"The frog does not know "nerf" but will say that those who seem invincible will not always seem so"

Yeah, the monks... but what also of the elite spirit spammers? I fear NR make take a hit somehow...

Quote:

"The frog believe the story of Gwen is not yet complete"

WTS Uber-godly Tapestry shred! 100K

Quote:

"The frog has a message before he sleeps: Watch for unheraldednews within the week"

"Something New something not yet revealed"

"And with that, Good day to all Tyrians"

Well, it's Friday, not much "within the week" time left, is there?

Heh heh... I love this game...

Takkun

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

19 Aug 2005 at 16:11 - 19

Quote:

"The frog believe the story of Gwen is not yet complete"

DUUUH! Who do you think is driving that Giant Robot in the video?

EtrnalXellotath

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

Massachusetts

19 Aug 2005 at 16:19 - 20

Me hearts a-flutter!

This is sooooooo cool! Its so awesome that a dev talks to us in the game... ::giggles girlishly::
within the week! bring it on!

ZenPali

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

South Jersey

N/Mo

19 Aug 2005 at 16:26 - 21

This is hillarious. I have got to see this frog with my own eyes.....

raven214

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

R/

19 Aug 2005 at 16:44 - 22

"The frog has a message before he sleeps: Watch for unheralded news within the week"

"Something New something not yet revealed"

"And with that, Good day to all Tyrians"

Quote:

Originally Posted by MSecorsky

Well, it's Friday, not much "within the week" time left, is there?

Heh heh... I love this game...

Hmm, either he meant within "this" week, which would basically leave one day... or he meant within the "next" week. Either way, I'm so excited at the prospects of the update coming soon!

I like how there's this mysterious, random way that the dev's (or whomever) can inject information into the game.

Count Feanor

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Hellsing Organization or... RIGHT BEHIND YOU!!

The Royal Priesthood

N/W

19 Aug 2005 at 17:18 - 23

MMmmmmmmm, frog legs. Mmmmmmmm.....
I've seen this frog but it wouldn't speak to me. So I ate him. LOL

Hookecho

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Red States

The Runners Academy

W/Mo

19 Aug 2005 at 17:59 - 24

Well so much for Anets statement of "We are not against Legitimate Farming of areas"

I mean why have +anything runes or items? Why work towards inovative builds?...I mane if they go this rout and with the wonderful fire sale they had last week, then Anet can be seen as protecting High powered guilds and their early players that cleaned up early and now are activly working to control the game thru the economy and materials.

Figures, it was too good of a game to last in the long run.

MSecorsky

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

So Cal

The Sinister Vanguard

Me/

19 Aug 2005 at 18:00 - 25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hookecho

Well so much for Anets statement of "We are not against Legitimate Farming of areas"

I mean why have +anything runes or items? Why work towards inovative builds?...I mane if they go this rout and with the wonderful fire sale they had last week, then Anet can be seen as protecting High powered guilds and their early players that cleaned up early and now are activly working to control the game thru the economy and materials.

Figures, it was too good of a game to last in the long run.

Just got your 105 built, eh?

Theos

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

River Dancing

Eternal Treachery [TimE]

Me/E

19 Aug 2005 at 18:14 - 26

Quote:

Originally Posted by MSecorsky

Just got your 105 built, eh?

Gasp, this means that the real monks will be back! Yay, no more having to ask people if they are 105/55 just coming to glorify in UW or FoW (mainly dieing quickly in FoW). Also last I checked farming isn;t the same as being inivicble in any non enchantment removal area... dunno I could just be biased... anyway you can still farm. Every class can farm, it just won't be so easy and painless. :P

Dazzler

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

E/Me

19 Aug 2005 at 18:33 - 27

/me runs off to farm like a mofo machine until the next update!!

ManadartheHealer

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Awaiting GW2

W/

19 Aug 2005 at 19:41 - 28

The word of The Frog is law!

I have yet to see The Frog speak with my own eyes

Syuveil

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Minnesota

Wrath of Nature [WoN]

R/

19 Aug 2005 at 20:12 - 29

My 55 build is not yet complete.... NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

Blight And Ruin

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Never guilded ;-)

19 Aug 2005 at 20:58 - 30

They could very easily add a lowish level necromancer suicide bunny to areas farmed by the 55/105 invincimonks, give it this skill http://www.guildwarsguru.com/skill/2...d-enchantments and call it done.

You'd see a lot less invincimonk soloists.

Dazzler

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

E/Me

19 Aug 2005 at 21:01 - 31

You'd also see ALOT less fun. They have used disenchants to nerf most areas and it takes away the fun from the regular PVE as you rarely get to use all the cool enchantments you get. A large portion of a spellcaster's skillset is devoted to enchantments. I surely hope their nerf is to prot bond and not to the areas.

Shayul

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

Blades of Redemption

Mo/E

19 Aug 2005 at 21:10 - 32

I doubt they can mean the 55/105 builds...because anyone who thinks those are invincible are loonies. Seriously.

Mimi Miyagi

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Port Orchard, WA

The Second Foundation: [TSF]

19 Aug 2005 at 21:13 - 33

I SERIOUSLY hope they don't nerf the farming monks. Why?

Because it's the only viable way for PVE players to unlock runes from farming certain areas.

Before I started seriously farming, I had never seen a superior vigor or absorption rune. After hundreds of hours of "normal" play, ascending multiple characters, I had only seen ONE drop in all of the parties I had been in. PVP players can unlock one in a few hours.

In normal play, chances of getting anything worthwhile is very slim. At least with farming, if you've managed to get the correct runes and skills, you can have a much better chance of getting those items unlocked - that would otherwise be nearly impossible to get otherwise.

Nerfing farming, or the 105 monk is stupid. It hurts NO ONE, and just is getting called for a nerf because some people can't STAND the thought of someone being able to do something "cheap". Waaaahhhhhh.

Hookecho

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Red States

The Runners Academy

W/Mo

19 Aug 2005 at 21:18 - 34

Quote:

Originally Posted by MSecorsky

Just got your 105 built, eh?

No...been using it for about 8 weeks or so. Just because you dislike something doesnt mean you need to ruin everyones fun

Hysteria

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

19 Aug 2005 at 21:28 - 35

I haven't used this build for a few weeks since I was able to get my fissure armor. I personally don't see harm in this given there aren't really that many areas to use this build effectively, imo. The only way I would agree with the decsion to correct this issue is if some of the talk I hear about the lvl 17 cast being a bug is true. I read that it shouldn't get down to requiring only 1 energy until a lvl 19 cast but I havent really done the math yet myself. The dev's little hints might not even be aimed at the 105 build. There's some speculation it refers to spirit build's also.

Racthoh

Did I hear 7 heroes?

Join Date: May 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)

19 Aug 2005 at 21:32 - 36

Prehaps they'll indirectly nerf the 105/55 builds. Prehaps they'll just add some enemies that can poison and disease. Maybe a few enemies that can cast Life Siphon/Transfer. I've heard too much life degen ruins those monks.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

19 Aug 2005 at 21:34 - 37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius

"The frog cannot tell of skills.Except to say that all that is known will become known again, in the future".

UAS?

another slant could be that changes will be made and what is known will change and have to be relearned.

UAS was flatly rejected by the company

Aradia Ashkal

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

19 Aug 2005 at 21:38 - 38

I agree. Let the 105ers stay. I don’t even have one but anything that may help lower the price on some stuff is ok with me especially ecto and shards and such.
I don’t see how it is ruining anyone's fun. Most missions aren’t possible with them because somewhere along the line there are enchantment breakers so if they are smart most monks carry two armors. One with their superiors and then a normal set to do normal game play.
Also as someone started before they are not invincible. I’ve read many threads in the monk forums of people complain cause they thought they wouldn’t die in uw only to be owned by the axes and such because it does take a certain rhythm to get used to from what I have read and of course run into any enchantment breaker and dead they are.
Whats next? Nerfing trappers cause they can go down in groups of only 3? Nerfing War/Mo?
Is it really that hard to ask a monk if they are a 105/55 before inviting? Shouldnt you be asking them anyways if they are a protection or smiting monk? IS it to hard to accept that not every monk you see is a pure healer whos sole job is to heal and rez you when every you scream for it?

Banebow

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

[KoA] Knights of the Alliance

Me/

19 Aug 2005 at 21:44 - 39

Quote:

"The frog does not know "nerf" but will say that those who seem invincible will not always seem so"

Whether it is enchantment removal, or changing prot bond, or is not going to effect the 105/55 monks at all, any change makes me happy!

If it is the monk build...

I suppose the easiest fix would be to, say, make prot bond cost 2 even at 17 protection prayers. I admit that I am no guru about this monk build, though I have successfuly used it (and I must say, while interisting, it was not that enjoyable. Of course, farming has never been my thing), but I think without the energy gain you will have trouble surviving.

And of course, I am a fan of enchantment removal. Makes a nice challenge.

Numa Pompilius

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

At an Insit.. Intis... a house.

Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF]

W/Me

19 Aug 2005 at 21:48 - 40