Come on.
Give us PVP lovers a chance to get 15k armor.
This normal armor is just ugly!
The idea is we break up each class.
Warrior, Ranger, Elementalist, Necromancer, Mesmer, and Monk.
Then we break up each piece of armor.
Head, Chest, Arms, Legs, and Feet.
Then we break it up for each type of armor.
Too many to name.
So an example would be: Unlocking a 15k chestpiece for Gladiator Armor for so and so faction would only unlock that piece for the whole account.
Personally I think this would be a great idea.
Anyone else think so?
Maybe after that we can also unlock more weapons, but I don't want to push it too far.
PvE should have it's benefit's.
I don't think nice looking armor would hurt.
Anyways, tell me what you think!
Unlocking 15k armor for PVP characters
Luthor
neoteo
/NO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
if you want 15k armors , PLAY RPG !!!
laizy pvp players FTL
if you want 15k armors , PLAY RPG !!!
laizy pvp players FTL
Akilles
if u excel in pvp then pve should be nothin for u and ur group to power level ur butt to lvl 20 in 5 hours (it can be done as i did it.) and get u to the citidel and or grotto, i say in 6 hours play time u can have it. as for money? u should have some gold items to sell for that huh? i say in all u need 100k for starters (75k for armor then add in materials)
Luthor
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/NO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
if you want 15k armors , PLAY RPG !!! laizy pvp players FTL |
lol i cant deny i aint lazy though, but still.
even if you had 4 pve characters you would never be able to have of the sets for each class.
its just impossible.
wanting to change to a different type of class whenever you want doesnt mean you should be penalized.
being limited to only 4 static characters is just stupid. thats why they have it so you create a level 20 pvp character anytime you want. so you can change to whatever you want, when you want.
and ps. we arent lazy... we have to farm for faction too
RTSFirebat
/no
PvP character already get perfect weapons and armor to begin with, 15K takes time and money to make, plus its the only thing that makes PvE character special... no, not now, not ever.
PvP character already get perfect weapons and armor to begin with, 15K takes time and money to make, plus its the only thing that makes PvE character special... no, not now, not ever.
NatalieD
Heck yeah. I'm tired of every character I see wearing the same old armor. More weapons would be great too.
badd
what about fow armor 
A NERD1989
/no
most people you see in arenas are RP players so why cant you?
most people you see in arenas are RP players so why cant you?
lyra_song
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15k is all for aesthetics. The existing 1.5 armor in PvP is the same stats as 15k.
Without things like 15k or FoW armor as an exclusive, theres even LESS motivation to play PVE.
My friend quit Guild Wars because he considered PVE quests/missions, money, and aesthetic value useless because he primarily a PvP player. When the Ranger interrupts got nerfed (he played that build obviously) he quit because there was nothing left for him to do.
15k is all for aesthetics. The existing 1.5 armor in PvP is the same stats as 15k.
Without things like 15k or FoW armor as an exclusive, theres even LESS motivation to play PVE.
My friend quit Guild Wars because he considered PVE quests/missions, money, and aesthetic value useless because he primarily a PvP player. When the Ranger interrupts got nerfed (he played that build obviously) he quit because there was nothing left for him to do.
Sister Rosette
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what about fow armor
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/no
/play pve
/farm for money and supplies like the rest of us
Trance Addict
Well then find something else I can waste my 10k faction on
Navaros
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The PVP armor is very boring, no doubt about it.
PVP players definitely deserve to be able to unlock Fissure armor.
"Playing" PVE does not get you Fissure armor.
Rather, farming and having to spam in tradechats 100 billion times to sell your items may get you it in a million years from now. I may be exaggerating a bit, but not by much.
The point is that there is no way that "playing" PVE normally will acquire Fissure armor, and grinding in PVE for it is not fun - and the devs said everything in the game is supposed to be fun first and foremost.
Unlocking Fissure armor in PVP = fun! Therefore it should be an option.
The PVP armor is very boring, no doubt about it.
PVP players definitely deserve to be able to unlock Fissure armor.
"Playing" PVE does not get you Fissure armor.
Rather, farming and having to spam in tradechats 100 billion times to sell your items may get you it in a million years from now. I may be exaggerating a bit, but not by much.
The point is that there is no way that "playing" PVE normally will acquire Fissure armor, and grinding in PVE for it is not fun - and the devs said everything in the game is supposed to be fun first and foremost.
Unlocking Fissure armor in PVP = fun! Therefore it should be an option.
schutz
NOTSIGNED
PVP is PVP who cares what armor you have on, you paly through the game and get 15k armor and it is sort of a way of showing you have accomplished something not just go around wearing it, if anything its only unlocked if you have owned it on a pve character not through faction
PVP is PVP who cares what armor you have on, you paly through the game and get 15k armor and it is sort of a way of showing you have accomplished something not just go around wearing it, if anything its only unlocked if you have owned it on a pve character not through faction
Janky Crackafoo
/schutz's idea
kawaii_bat
/signed
After unlocking mostly every skill and mostly all the item upgrades and yet not even having 1 15k armor set on any of my characters. It's depressing me. While if I could play PvP in the hopes of unlocking something just for looks. That would be awesome!
It lests those who really can't afford it be able to play/use it.
After unlocking mostly every skill and mostly all the item upgrades and yet not even having 1 15k armor set on any of my characters. It's depressing me. While if I could play PvP in the hopes of unlocking something just for looks. That would be awesome!
It lests those who really can't afford it be able to play/use it.
RotteN
pve = aestetics play a part, hell, you don't wanna have 30 clones of you running next to you
pvp = all about stats, i don't care about looks, i rarely even decently look at a target, so who cares ? (and i only pvp with a pvp-only char created for that build and that build only, i rarely use my pve chars (with 15k and/or FoW armors) for pvp)
anyway, both 15k and FoW armors should remain pve exclusive
pvp = all about stats, i don't care about looks, i rarely even decently look at a target, so who cares ? (and i only pvp with a pvp-only char created for that build and that build only, i rarely use my pve chars (with 15k and/or FoW armors) for pvp)
anyway, both 15k and FoW armors should remain pve exclusive
Kampfkeks
Well... would the PVP Crowd want the PVE Players to gain Fame for winning a mission? No? Why do you want the PVE Version of your /fame command for you to have then?
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Sagaris
Maybe you get another type of armor with your rank? Like 15k armor = rank 6, FoW armor = rank 12?
Luthor
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/signed The PVP armor is very boring, no doubt about it. PVP players definitely deserve to be able to unlock Fissure armor. "Playing" PVE does not get you Fissure armor. Rather, farming and having to spam in tradechats 100 billion times to sell your items may get you it in a million years from now. I may be exaggerating a bit, but not by much. The point is that there is no way that "playing" PVE normally will acquire Fissure armor, and grinding in PVE for it is not fun - and the devs said everything in the game is supposed to be fun first and foremost. Unlocking Fissure armor in PVP = fun! Therefore it should be an option. |
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Well... would the PVP Crowd want the PVE Players to gain Fame for winning a mission? No? Why do you want the PVE Version of your /fame command for you to have then? /Not Signed |
I'm not saying the armor has to be like 3k faction to unlock. To give you a crazy number, why not make unlocking 1 piece of armor take 20k faction. If you don't think 20k faction isn't alot, then you haven't PVP'ed. We're not saying it's something that should come easy for PVP players. It just gives us something to look forward to, and unlock.
Loviatar
the nice armor is OPTIONAL for PVE players who are willing to work for it.that is a PVE PERK and if you want it you can PVE
NOT SIGNED NO WAY
BigTru
/signed
You should be able to unlock it ONLY after you have unlocked it in PvE.
You should be able to unlock it ONLY after you have unlocked it in PvE.
NatalieD
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Well... would the PVP Crowd want the PVE Players to gain Fame for winning a mission? No? Why do you want the PVE Version of your /fame command for you to have then?
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NatalieD
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pvp = all about stats, i don't care about looks, i rarely even decently look at a target, so who cares ?
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Akhilleus
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The PVP armor is very boring, no doubt about it. PVP players definitely deserve to be able to unlock Fissure armor. "Playing" PVE does not get you Fissure armor. Rather, farming and having to spam in tradechats 100 billion times to sell your items may get you it in a million years from now. I may be exaggerating a bit, but not by much. The point is that there is no way that "playing" PVE normally will acquire Fissure armor, and grinding in PVE for it is not fun - and the devs said everything in the game is supposed to be fun first and foremost. Unlocking Fissure armor in PVP = fun! Therefore it should be an option. |
a pvp char requires ZERO work to level up; the only work required is the work involved in unlocking skills, fissure armor exists to show someones status in the pve world, and as such it does not belong in pvp. pvp chars are duel-only, they exist soley for the purpose of pvp; the skills, the stats, the build, etc, a pve char is often just as important asctetically as it is for killing purposes, 15k armor and fissure armor are to show the dedication involved to advance a pve char to that level of equipment; think it is an easyjob or requires no work? then you shouldnt have a problem getting it to begin with.
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Watmonster
/no
armor is just about the only thing that distingiushs (pardon the spelling) pvp peeps from pve peeps. I5k armor is what makes pvp fun to play as your pve char because you get to brag and the pvpers think ur the shizz since you've got it.
If you dont have the armor, why would you want to waste time playing as a pve char when you could simply make the best char in about 10 seconds? also since they opened the storage in pvp, you can just give ur awsome items to ur pvp chars. I ask you..?
armor is just about the only thing that distingiushs (pardon the spelling) pvp peeps from pve peeps. I5k armor is what makes pvp fun to play as your pve char because you get to brag and the pvpers think ur the shizz since you've got it.
If you dont have the armor, why would you want to waste time playing as a pve char when you could simply make the best char in about 10 seconds? also since they opened the storage in pvp, you can just give ur awsome items to ur pvp chars. I ask you..?
lord_shar
PvP is about stats, scores, and winning... fassion is secondary and usually reserved for heavy PvE-only investments.
Therefore, I have to concur with the majority of the replies and vote nay.
Therefore, I have to concur with the majority of the replies and vote nay.
legandry
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/signed
The PVP armor is very boring, no doubt about it. PVP players definitely deserve to be able to unlock Fissure armor. "Playing" PVE does not get you Fissure armor. Rather, farming and having to spam in tradechats 100 billion times to sell your items may get you it in a million years from now. I may be exaggerating a bit, but not by much. The point is that there is no way that "playing" PVE normally will acquire Fissure armor, and grinding in PVE for it is not fun - and the devs said everything in the game is supposed to be fun first and foremost. Unlocking Fissure armor in PVP = fun! Therefore it should be an option. |
It took me about 150 hours of farming/running to get my current 105 shards and 85 ectos. I will tell you this though: it was fun. Yes, it was fun. I DO enjoy farming, even soloing (*gasp!*). I think that FoW armor is great the way it is - I truly feel that I will be rewarded for my time, whereas if I just unlocked it through PvP, it would just be common. Anyway, ANet will not make FoW armor (or even 15k most likely) unlockable because it is supposed to be special.
Just my 2 cents.
NatalieD
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It took me about 150 hours of farming/running to get my current 105 shards and 85 ectos. I will tell you this though: it was fun. Yes, it was fun. I DO enjoy farming, even soloing (*gasp!*). I think that FoW armor is great the way it is - I truly feel that I will be rewarded for my time, whereas if I just unlocked it through PvP, it would just be common.
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calamitykell
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You pvp have your fame and ranking and ladder and such. pve has 15k armor and fow.
So no. If you want 15k armor, roll a pve char and get it. It takes too long? Too bad. That's what you get for going for it.
You pvp have your fame and ranking and ladder and such. pve has 15k armor and fow.
So no. If you want 15k armor, roll a pve char and get it. It takes too long? Too bad. That's what you get for going for it.
NatalieD
I sense a great deal of hostility towards PVP-oriented players here. 
Akhilleus
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I sense a great deal of hostility towards PVP-oriented players here.
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even if you can only unlock it from pve, you could get 1 char with fissure, unlock it, then get 3 more pvp chars of the same class, all with fissure, for absolutly free; X3 1.5 million gold armors, for free. you can NOT repeat this act in PVE, and with good reason; it would essentially make FoW meaningless in terms of the difficulty/cost in aquiring it; which is the SOLE reason its held in higher regard than other armors.
if you dont see whats wrong with that, god help you.
Watmonster
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thats because you guys want all of the benifit for half the work (if you can even call playing in the pvp arenas "work;" its a chocolate sprinkled cupcake compared to trading for hours on end).
even if you can only unlock it from pve, you could get 1 char with fissure, unlock it, then get 3 more pvp chars of the same class, all with fissure, for absolutly free; X3 1.5 million gold armors, for free. you can NOT repeat this act in PVE, and with good reason; it would essentially make FoW meaningless in terms of the difficulty/cost in aquiring it; which is the SOLE reason its held in higher regard than other armors. if you dont see whats wrong with that, god help you. |
also, pvp isnt about fashion (as already stated). Its about shoving an axe into another persons ribcage and watching the.... you get the idea
Banebow
I think not. Someone who plays PvP exclusively does not deserve access to everything in the game, same as someone who only plays PvE. If you play some of both, and want 15k or FoW armor in PvP, bring your PvE character.
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Wilheim Eversmann
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the different armors in PVE actually keep the players from leaving the game by giving them a goal, like the greens, ppl may want to collect them all and for the armor, ppl want to get them from repeating farming and trading, without those experience players' trading and farming, the game is end...
more weapon in pvp is non-sense...... in pvp there are already godly weapon(except the look) but actualy you can transfer your pve weapons to pvp char (as what i did offen)....the 15K armor and more weapons types in pve is actually used to keep the players in pve.....
on the other hand, if you just get all the godly weapons and armor in pvp...that would be boring, coz it make no differents from now....all other players will have them...so nothing change
unlock them from faction points or rank would be possible....but i think pvp is aim at having fun from killing other players (not npc) and playing teamwork, so how ppl looks like in pvp may not be a problem for Anet, coz thats what they want~~to keep players in pve and providing different experiences for the pvp players
i do agree with Akhilleus's, pve players pay a lot more for what they got, we need to fight, we need to trade , we need to farm, we need to run and many others to collect the money, and in pvp you just need to fight!!
the different armors in PVE actually keep the players from leaving the game by giving them a goal, like the greens, ppl may want to collect them all and for the armor, ppl want to get them from repeating farming and trading, without those experience players' trading and farming, the game is end...
more weapon in pvp is non-sense...... in pvp there are already godly weapon(except the look) but actualy you can transfer your pve weapons to pvp char (as what i did offen)....the 15K armor and more weapons types in pve is actually used to keep the players in pve.....
on the other hand, if you just get all the godly weapons and armor in pvp...that would be boring, coz it make no differents from now....all other players will have them...so nothing change
unlock them from faction points or rank would be possible....but i think pvp is aim at having fun from killing other players (not npc) and playing teamwork, so how ppl looks like in pvp may not be a problem for Anet, coz thats what they want~~to keep players in pve and providing different experiences for the pvp players
i do agree with Akhilleus's, pve players pay a lot more for what they got, we need to fight, we need to trade , we need to farm, we need to run and many others to collect the money, and in pvp you just need to fight!!
Tailon
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derrtyboy69
/super-uber ultra NOT SIGNED
Venus
/Unsigned
NatalieD
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the different armors in PVE actually keep the players from leaving the game by giving them a goal, like the greens, ppl may want to collect them all and for the armor, ppl want to get them from repeating farming and trading, without those experience players' trading and farming, the game is end... more weapon in pvp is non-sense...... in pvp there are already godly weapon(except the look) but actualy you can transfer your pve weapons to pvp char (as what i did offen)....the 15K armor and more weapons types in pve is actually used to keep the players in pve..... on the other hand, if you just get all the godly weapons and armor in pvp...that would be boring, coz it make no differents from now....all other players will have them...so nothing change unlock them from faction points or rank would be possible....but i think pvp is aim at having fun from killing other players (not npc) and playing teamwork, so how ppl looks like in pvp may not be a problem for Anet, coz thats what they want~~to keep players in pve and providing different experiences for the pvp players i do agree with Akhilleus's, pve players pay a lot more for what they got, we need to fight, we need to trade , we need to farm, we need to run and many others to collect the money, and in pvp you just need to fight!! |
"I don't want this, so you can't have it either." Man. I knew there would be opposition to the idea of pvp armors, but man...
Shattered Self
The 15k and FoW armors really should be for PvE only, it gives the PvE characters something to show off.
I do agree that PvP people should have something to work towards after they've unlocked all the currently existing stuff though...
I do agree that PvP people should have something to work towards after they've unlocked all the currently existing stuff though...
2_fingers
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I do agree that PvP people should have something to work towards after they've unlocked all the currently existing stuff though...
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/No!
Come on man, this is a ridiculous post. Pvp peeps complain if they see a pve charac in their arena, then why should we allow them to have the one thing that sets the pve from pvp? If u do find the armour boring, try this. Go to ur gw start up screen, create new rpg charcter. Its that easy. Play the game thru, get ascended, explore uw/fow with both crappy and good groups and then get ur armour that way. Its much more satisfying then simply unlocking.
If i were to be resonable and set a reasonable amount of faction for the unlocking to start, it would be at
For 15k
60k Faction - Chest
20k Faction- boots, hands (each)
30k Faction- head
50k Faction- leggings
For FoW armour
110k Faction - Chest
40k Faction- boots, hands
60k Faction- head
90k Faction- leggings
per class. And you wouldnt be able to use a warrior armour on anyone other than a warrior. If you think that i'm not being reasonable, think about how long it takes for 1 fow armour to be made for one character. And if u unlock it for pvp, u can have an enless supply of fow armour. So naturally the cost must be higher.
I suppose only then would it ever be equal in a sense to the effort that the pve guys go thru to get their fow stuff.