W/X FoW Spider Farmer
0siris
Quote:
Originally Posted by Murder In China
Either something is wrong with my runs because whenever I'm farming the Spiders, they still use Healing Springs even though I'm attacking adjacent to them.
Basically keep in mind that if you are real close to them they will not use spring. By real close I mean in their faces.
Say you have 3 spiders lined up horizontally right in front of you. Unless they are bunched up real close you will not be able to attack the one in the middle because the 2 on the sides are going to spam healing spring. I can probably draw this better than I can explain so here it is. The "X's" are the 3 spiders. You are the "v" and should be attacking the underlined "X". This way you are close enough to both of them and they will not cast heal spring. Its pretty simple, I dont even position them anymore. If you let them all come out of the cave and fan out, you should never have a healing spring problem. Just watch for the skales that like to hobble over to the mouth of the cave
XvX X
Say you have 3 spiders lined up horizontally right in front of you. Unless they are bunched up real close you will not be able to attack the one in the middle because the 2 on the sides are going to spam healing spring. I can probably draw this better than I can explain so here it is. The "X's" are the 3 spiders. You are the "v" and should be attacking the underlined "X". This way you are close enough to both of them and they will not cast heal spring. Its pretty simple, I dont even position them anymore. If you let them all come out of the cave and fan out, you should never have a healing spring problem. Just watch for the skales that like to hobble over to the mouth of the cave
XvX X
Jedit
Quote:
Originally Posted by LuxA
I don't have optimal equipment,
You've done runs. You therefore have money. Prioritise optimal equipment - it really isn't all that expensive.
Human slayer
I don't know if this has been posted yet or not, but instead of Hundred Blades, and to counter the poison, do u think u could go W/R and bring Melandru's Resiliance
Cerulean Niteshadow
Again I can not thank Ractoah enough for the build and guidence. Had my best run every last night. Got 5 shards, 2 Golds one being a Max Sundering Shadow Blade of Fortatude, but I wanted to get some other info.
I have seen in some of the posts where sometimes people will after the cave go to others areas either to find chest or to just try to finish filling their invetories. What areas are you talking about and how do you get to them?
I have seen in some of the posts where sometimes people will after the cave go to others areas either to find chest or to just try to finish filling their invetories. What areas are you talking about and how do you get to them?
SirShadowrunner
Here are a couple of ideas, once at the end of the cave go out a little and a couple of
shadow beasts will pop-up, and sometimes a chest just beyond them, back into the
cave and take them out, you will need an interrupt skill to help out, just do not
attack them when you have SS on you, they really can't do much damage. Other thing is
to run over to the Wailing forest and solo it, the run can be tricky, and you will need
ele. res. or mantra of lighting to take on the spirit shepherds, and platemail armor
helps alot, if you want to try all this and use an axe this is the skill setup I take
for it along with my platemail armor in inventory :
sprint, disrupting chop, cleave, cyclone axe, watch yourself, healing signet, phs. res.,
ele. res.
Sirshadowrunner (AxE)
shadow beasts will pop-up, and sometimes a chest just beyond them, back into the
cave and take them out, you will need an interrupt skill to help out, just do not
attack them when you have SS on you, they really can't do much damage. Other thing is
to run over to the Wailing forest and solo it, the run can be tricky, and you will need
ele. res. or mantra of lighting to take on the spirit shepherds, and platemail armor
helps alot, if you want to try all this and use an axe this is the skill setup I take
for it along with my platemail armor in inventory :
sprint, disrupting chop, cleave, cyclone axe, watch yourself, healing signet, phs. res.,
ele. res.
Sirshadowrunner (AxE)
Murder In China
Quote:
Originally Posted by Torric Icefist
Basically keep in mind that if you are real close to them they will not use spring. By real close I mean in their faces.
Say you have 3 spiders lined up horizontally right in front of you. Unless they are bunched up real close you will not be able to attack the one in the middle because the 2 on the sides are going to spam healing spring. I can probably draw this better than I can explain so here it is. The "X's" are the 3 spiders. You are the "v" and should be attacking the underlined "X". This way you are close enough to both of them and they will not cast heal spring. Its pretty simple, I dont even position them anymore. If you let them all come out of the cave and fan out, you should never have a healing spring problem. Just watch for the skales that like to hobble over to the mouth of the cave
XvX X In order to attack them you have to be VERY close in order to do so, but they still use Healing Springs.
Say you have 3 spiders lined up horizontally right in front of you. Unless they are bunched up real close you will not be able to attack the one in the middle because the 2 on the sides are going to spam healing spring. I can probably draw this better than I can explain so here it is. The "X's" are the 3 spiders. You are the "v" and should be attacking the underlined "X". This way you are close enough to both of them and they will not cast heal spring. Its pretty simple, I dont even position them anymore. If you let them all come out of the cave and fan out, you should never have a healing spring problem. Just watch for the skales that like to hobble over to the mouth of the cave
XvX X In order to attack them you have to be VERY close in order to do so, but they still use Healing Springs.
Cerulean Niteshadow
Quote:
Originally Posted by SirShadowrunner
Here are a couple of ideas, once at the end of the cave go out a little and a couple of
shadow beasts will pop-up, and sometimes a chest just beyond them, back into the
cave and take them out, you will need an interrupt skill to help out, just do not
attack them when you have SS on you, they really can't do much damage. Other thing is
to run over to the Wailing forest and solo it, the run can be tricky, and you will need
ele. res. or mantra of lighting to take on the spirit shepherds, and platemail armor
helps alot, if you want to try all this and use an axe this is the skill setup I take
for it along with my platemail armor in inventory :
sprint, disrupting chop, cleave, cyclone axe, watch yourself, healing signet, phs. res.,
ele. res.
Sirshadowrunner (AxE) Thanks, where is the forest from they cave?
shadow beasts will pop-up, and sometimes a chest just beyond them, back into the
cave and take them out, you will need an interrupt skill to help out, just do not
attack them when you have SS on you, they really can't do much damage. Other thing is
to run over to the Wailing forest and solo it, the run can be tricky, and you will need
ele. res. or mantra of lighting to take on the spirit shepherds, and platemail armor
helps alot, if you want to try all this and use an axe this is the skill setup I take
for it along with my platemail armor in inventory :
sprint, disrupting chop, cleave, cyclone axe, watch yourself, healing signet, phs. res.,
ele. res.
Sirshadowrunner (AxE) Thanks, where is the forest from they cave?
0siris
Quote:
Originally Posted by Murder In China
In order to attack them you have to be VERY close in order to do so, but they still use Healing Springs.
Hmm...thats wierd they never do that to me. Keep in mind that once they start casting it they will not stop even if you run up close to them. Maybe thats what is happening to you. Its rare for 3 or even 2 spiders in the same group to start casting healing spring at the same time.
Once they cast it there is nothing you can do but wait that 10 seconds.
Once they cast it there is nothing you can do but wait that 10 seconds.
Tigers Anger
I normally aggro all of them them get them to ball by the wall so I can cyclone them all to death but last time I tried they still use HS. Maybe it was just bad positioning that time anyone got any specific comments for aggroing them to ball?
Lambentviper
my advice would be not to ball them at all. I find that they wont use HS when you are within a cyclone axe distance from them. If my CA hits them, they wont use...probably knowing that they could get interupted.
Murder In China
Whenever I hit a spider's Healing Spring it comes back 20 seconds later.
Jedit
Quote:
Originally Posted by Murder In China
Whenever I hit a spider's Healing Spring it comes back 20 seconds later.
Wow, you mean skills have recharge times now? 
Of course it comes back 20 seconds later.
Of course it comes back 20 seconds later.
ultimate2
Blah.. i wanna try this but dont want waste 1k cuz maybe i fail.. :/
Jedit
Quote:
Originally Posted by ultimate2
Blah.. i wanna try this but dont want waste 1k cuz maybe i fail.. :/
You will fail. Then you'll try it a few more times and you'll start succeeding. Then you'll make the money you lost back in short order.
Got to spend money to make money, they say.
Got to spend money to make money, they say.
ultimate2
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jedit
You will fail. Then you'll try it a few more times and you'll start succeeding. Then you'll make the money you lost back in short order.
Got to spend money to make money, they say. Tryed. Resultat: Didint make the run -.-
Got to spend money to make money, they say. Tryed. Resultat: Didint make the run -.-
Jhadur
This run took me several attempts before I finally made it to the cave. I still die sometimes on the way across the beach.
Why are so many of us banned?
Why are so many of us banned?
TheYellowKid
jus want to say thanx to ractoh and everyone else with builds and tips.. been practicing this today, took a while but i got to the cave but no inside yet lol, im using the W/Me build w/ Swords
for the record i was within melee distance of 2 spiders and they used healing spring, range on it doesnt seem that big tho so if im in the middle and one does it i dont really need to worry about it as it has no effect on the one im killing.. only prob im having is the skales near the cave, but might try bringing dolyak and running into the middle and see if i do better like that.. damn skales!
ultimate if ur only gonna try a couple times ull never perfect it, if it was easy it wouldnt warrant a thread of this size
for an axe build wat mods are necessary? zealous? and if poss could u give a rough est of price.. also do u reckon its easier then a sword build?
for the record i was within melee distance of 2 spiders and they used healing spring, range on it doesnt seem that big tho so if im in the middle and one does it i dont really need to worry about it as it has no effect on the one im killing.. only prob im having is the skales near the cave, but might try bringing dolyak and running into the middle and see if i do better like that.. damn skales!
ultimate if ur only gonna try a couple times ull never perfect it, if it was easy it wouldnt warrant a thread of this size
for an axe build wat mods are necessary? zealous? and if poss could u give a rough est of price.. also do u reckon its easier then a sword build?
Jedit
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jhadur
This run took me several attempts before I finally made it to the cave. I still die sometimes on the way across the beach.
Why are so many of us banned? Well, in your case it's because you're a fool.
Why are so many of us banned? Well, in your case it's because you're a fool.
Tigers Anger
April Fool's.
Jhadur
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jedit
Well, in your case it's because you're a fool.
Ah I knew there was a good reason for it
Ah I knew there was a good reason for it
Sab
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jedit
You've done runs. You therefore have money. Prioritise optimal equipment - it really isn't all that expensive.
A bit further down I wrote that I modified the build to compensate for my lack of optimal equipment, which works out just as well as if I was equipped with top-of-the-line stuff. Having a +10 Piercing/-2 Stance shield wouldn't help that much, I'd rather have the 300k instead.
About Healing Spring and spiders, I found that standing adjacent to one (in GW terminology) is enough to stop it from using HS. It's easy to overestimate this distance, so if a spider starts using HS, you're too far away.
About Healing Spring and spiders, I found that standing adjacent to one (in GW terminology) is enough to stop it from using HS. It's easy to overestimate this distance, so if a spider starts using HS, you're too far away.
Jedit
Quote:
Originally Posted by LuxA
A bit further down I wrote that I modified the build to compensate for my lack of optimal equipment, which works out just as well as if I was equipped with top-of-the-line stuff. Having a +10 Piercing/-2 Stance shield wouldn't help that much, I'd rather have the 300k instead.
What are you talking about? The standard build doesn't need a +10/-2 shield. I use a -2 stance/-2 hexed shield for the run and against Dryders, switching to Grog's Shield against ACSs only, and I still take zeros almost every time. Dolyak Sig is overkill.
Sab
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jedit
What are you talking about? The standard build doesn't need a +10/-2 shield. I use a -2 stance/-2 hexed shield for the run and against Dryders, switching to Grog's Shield against ACSs only, and I still take zeros almost every time. Dolyak Sig is overkill.
Nevermind the exaggeration. Anyways, Watch Yourself steals one strike of adrenaline from Galrath/Final every 9-10 seconds so I prefer something that's free to use and more effective (and makes all of the spiders' arrows -0, Healing Sig or not).
Daft Frik
I love Obsidian Chests
Lambentviper
lucky. I just got a Gold Holy Rod with 11-22 req. 12 +3nrg<50%
Nater
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lambentviper
lucky. I just got a Gold Holy Rod with 11-22 req. 12 +3nrg<50%
We can add that to my req 8 & 9's, which are 15<50 Shadow Blade, Chaos Axe, FDS, and Shadow Bow.(I wouldn't be so jaded if they were 20<50) I've never found a 15>50 anything out of the countless chests I've opened. I've wasted at LEAST 100K on keys, and probably found another 30K worth or so.
Senator Tom
i always get shadow bows from the chests 
Rhuobhe
3 of the shadow bows I found in FoW in the past week or 2:
And 2 Chaos axes:
And 2 Chaos axes:
remmeh
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhuobhe
3 of the shadow bows I found in FoW in the past week or 2:
And 2 Chaos axes:
holy crap... how often do you do this??
And 2 Chaos axes:
holy crap... how often do you do this??
Across The Battle
That is just the most insane luck humanly possible.
Murder In China
Bastard, stealing all the good drops.
Rhuobhe
Quote:
Originally Posted by remmeh
holy crap... how often do you do this??
I do the run 2 times per day on average. Got a 20% charr slaying sword pommel and a +30 hale staff head today.
I seriously think my luck is on a different level than most. I wonder about that sometimes - no one else I know gets drops like I do.
I do the run 2 times per day on average. Got a 20% charr slaying sword pommel and a +30 hale staff head today.I seriously think my luck is on a different level than most. I wonder about that sometimes - no one else I know gets drops like I do.
Leighwyn
yes, luck really does exist
mint
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhuobhe
I seriously think my luck is on a different level than most.
that would be an understatement
agentnull
When I do this, I use 15 str, 12 swords, and 11 tactics. I just tried using Frenzy instead of Flurry and had no problem, as long as I only aggroed 2 dryders at a time.
jonnybegood
but jamy's a newb and he just likes frenzy! (j/k)
But nah I can't .seem to kill the spiders, i hear that they do no dmg with all the stances and stuff butthey still kill me, I also use balth's insted of zealous hilt. seems to work well. but I started today and made 12 plat killing no spiders, so just gettin there makes a profit.
But nah I can't .seem to kill the spiders, i hear that they do no dmg with all the stances and stuff butthey still kill me, I also use balth's insted of zealous hilt. seems to work well. but I started today and made 12 plat killing no spiders, so just gettin there makes a profit.
Jedit
Quote:
Originally Posted by jonnybegood
but jamy's a newb and he just likes frenzy! (j/k)
But nah I can't .seem to kill the spiders, i hear that they do no dmg with all the stances and stuff butthey still kill me, I also use balth's insted of zealous hilt. seems to work well. ... until a Dryder strips it.
If you can't kill a Spider one-on-one, then this run is not for you.
But nah I can't .seem to kill the spiders, i hear that they do no dmg with all the stances and stuff butthey still kill me, I also use balth's insted of zealous hilt. seems to work well. ... until a Dryder strips it.
If you can't kill a Spider one-on-one, then this run is not for you.
jonnybegood
of course not against the dryders
striderkaaru
slightly off-topic, but nice avatar design jack, jonny.
^_~
they say that the greatest form of flattery is imitation.
*flattered*
^_~
they say that the greatest form of flattery is imitation.
*flattered*
SirShadowrunner
Quote:
Originally Posted by jonnybegood
but jamy's a newb and he just likes frenzy! (j/k)
But nah I can't .seem to kill the spiders, i hear that they do no dmg with all the stances and stuff butthey still kill me, I also use balth's insted of zealous hilt. seems to work well. but I started today and made 12 plat killing no spiders, so just gettin there makes a profit. Heal before your health hits 50%, I bet you are fighting to much and not healing
enough, I find soloing high lvl monsters require a "focus" on healing at right times
when starting out. Don't worry about how fast monsters are dropping or I almost have
this one dead, just a couple more hits, you risk yourself doing that. Go try and solo
Titans out of LA for awhile and them throw blind on you and you will quickly get an
idea of healing versus fighting.
But nah I can't .seem to kill the spiders, i hear that they do no dmg with all the stances and stuff butthey still kill me, I also use balth's insted of zealous hilt. seems to work well. but I started today and made 12 plat killing no spiders, so just gettin there makes a profit. Heal before your health hits 50%, I bet you are fighting to much and not healing
enough, I find soloing high lvl monsters require a "focus" on healing at right times
when starting out. Don't worry about how fast monsters are dropping or I almost have
this one dead, just a couple more hits, you risk yourself doing that. Go try and solo
Titans out of LA for awhile and them throw blind on you and you will quickly get an
idea of healing versus fighting.