W/X FoW Spider Farmer

TheLordOfBlah

TheLordOfBlah

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

California

None

Mo/N

50X easier with flail =P my new fav skill

shadow39365

shadow39365

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

England

Angels Symphonys [AnSy]

i worked out that if you have Legionaires Armour, and a stance active, -2 in a stance is better than +10 armour, i used an article on Wiki, http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Damage if you ask me it makes a good read (but maybe thats just me enjoying maths) But i remember damage calculation is worked out with Percentages, so when you get to a high Armour Level, with the bonuses gained from legionaires (while in a stance) adding another 10 armour does not to alot. As i mentioned about damage calculations and percentages, i found out reducing damage by 2 instead of reducing it by the percentage armour you gain proved better, and a -2/-2 is effective even further.

lambda the great

lambda the great

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

here

Almost a Guild

W/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by kvndoom
I did it with Quivering for a long time, then tried Dragon Slash + Sskai's Sword. Let me tell you, getting ALL your adrenaline attacks recharged immediately (+5 adrenaline x2 when Furious procs) is very very nice.

Still use the w/me phys resistance personally. I just wear knight's chest and leggings so that 60% of the hits are -3. Geoffers is a good shield when you're using Heal Sig, but i still can't say for certian if the +10 vs piercing is better than the 2 in stance of my other shield.

Of course america NEVER has favor when I'm at home, so it's kinda moot anyway. 2000th post ftw

Merciless Paladin

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2006

The Nutcrakerz [Nutz]

W/Mo

I like your work and i really think it is possible -but can u put ALL of the running in and if u can put it all (the fighting and the running) in 1 video~thanks

Racthoh

Racthoh

Did I hear 7 heroes?

Join Date: May 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Merciless Paladin
I like your work and i really think it is possible -but can u put ALL of the running in and if u can put it all (the fighting and the running) in 1 video~thanks
Quote: Getting to the spiders is harder, unless you replace Balthazar's Spirit with Healing Signet (otherwise the degen can become a problem). And replace Frenzy with Flail naturally. Hell at that point since you aren't taking double damage you can probably drop Healing Hands for something else too. I never tried any other builds after that since I've been too busy to farm as much as I used to.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Racthoh
I didn't do a video of the running on the beach because it will be completely different every time. No point in recording one instance of endless thousands.

Corpselooter

Corpselooter

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Netherlands, Woerden

Glob of Ectospasm [GoE]

R/

Lions comfort is actually better as heal signet, if you watch your adrenaline. Both Lions comfort and Heal sig heal for 130 hp, but lions comfort only has 1 sec activation time and it doesnt reduce armour, so it's better.

0siris

0siris

Riding the Gravy Train

Join Date: Oct 2005

Chicago Area

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Merciless Paladin
I like your work and i really think it is possible -but can u put ALL of the running in and if u can put it all (the fighting and the running) in 1 video~thanks Here's a vid I made a while back...

http://files.filefront.com/SpiderRun.../fileinfo.html

Dna

Dna

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2005

Padova - Italy

Spider Pigs [DoH]

Mo/

It's impossible... i tried but i can't pass dryder in the first part of run... i dead for the degen...

how i can pass???

you can upload a full video of run?? the first part is essential for me for understanding the method of run... i'm getting crazy(i had spend 7k .... T_T )

RhanoctJocosa

RhanoctJocosa

Legendary Korean

Join Date: Aug 2006

The Benecia Renovatio [RenO]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dna
It's impossible... i tried but i can't pass dryder in the first part of run... i dead for the degen...

how i can pass???

you can upload a full video of run?? the first part is essential for me for understanding the method of run... i'm getting crazy(i had spend 7k .... T_T ) What build are you using? What armour? Definately not impossible.

RhanoctJocosa

RhanoctJocosa

Legendary Korean

Join Date: Aug 2006

The Benecia Renovatio [RenO]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dna
It's impossible... i tried but i can't pass dryder in the first part of run... i dead for the degen...

how i can pass???

you can upload a full video of run?? the first part is essential for me for understanding the method of run... i'm getting crazy(i had spend 7k .... T_T ) What build are you using? What armour? Definately not impossible.

Poison Ivy

Poison Ivy

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Toronto

Hopping

Mo/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dna
It's impossible... i tried but i can't pass dryder in the first part of run... i dead for the degen...

how i can pass???

you can upload a full video of run?? the first part is essential for me for understanding the method of run... i'm getting crazy(i had spend 7k .... T_T ) You aggrored the Skales...

Blomman

Blomman

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

Stockholm ---> Sweden

Me/

do the build still work?? :P

Sam I Are

Sam I Are

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Club of a Thousand Pandas [LOD???]

A/N

I was thinking maybe you could use phys resistance, watch yourself with 10-12 tactics, Frenzy, and Whirling Axe( It only takes 2 adrenaline and causes about 20 dmg per hit with 12+ axe mastery) I'm not sure if this has already been mentioned but I think it would work well. I haven't tried it yet and im not sure if the frenzy part would kill... So if anyone wants to try this and tell me that would be great thanks

@Blomman: Yes it does work except for the cyclone axe bit. The sword build still works well.

0siris

0siris

Riding the Gravy Train

Join Date: Oct 2005

Chicago Area

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

W/

I've messed around with whirling axe. The DPS is a bit better than with cleave, so I perfer it. I would not recommend bringing frenzy down there however...

karunpav

karunpav

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Yeah, since Frenzy and Physical Resistance are both stances I don't think it would work out very well for you...

Sam I Are

Sam I Are

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Club of a Thousand Pandas [LOD???]

A/N

lol.... Forgot about Physical Resistance being a stance XD

Blomman

Blomman

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

Stockholm ---> Sweden

Me/

sry but im kind of new to the fow farming :P what skills is the sword farming using?

-.-

-.-

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2006

Trying reading the thread first.

Blomman

Blomman

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

Stockholm ---> Sweden

Me/

just wondering is it neccesary to get all the expensive pro eq?

lambda the great

lambda the great

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

here

Almost a Guild

W/N

Expensive?
Collector shield:2 worm things
Zealous mod: 10kish
Defense mod: 500goldish
1.5k glads

You can make well over 20k on a good run.

0siris

0siris

Riding the Gravy Train

Join Date: Oct 2005

Chicago Area

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

W/

whoa zealous is 10K?

Sorry about the highjack

lambda the great

lambda the great

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

here

Almost a Guild

W/N

For a sword at least.

Sam I Are

Sam I Are

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Club of a Thousand Pandas [LOD???]

A/N

I have a question for Racthoh. The w/mo build you showed with healing hands and frenzy, is that the fastest build you have created? And is it for more beginners or advanced players? It looks easier than the original hundred blades build.

A thought of mine:
I was thinking of using mark of rodgort and making a sword with a fiery sword hilt to burn the spiders to death. like maybe with the same build as the first w/x build but instead of flurry put in makr of rodgort.

P.S. I like most of the songs u use Racthoh . A few ended on my iPod

aB-

aB-

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Mark of Rodgort would be interrupted by the spiders.

Racthoh

Racthoh

Did I hear 7 heroes?

Join Date: May 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam I Are
I have a question for Racthoh. The w/mo build you showed with healing hands and frenzy, is that the fastest build you have created? And is it for more beginners or advanced players? It looks easier than the original hundred blades build.
A thought of mine:
I was thinking of using mark of rodgort and making a sword with a fiery sword hilt to burn the spiders to death. like maybe with the same build as the first w/x build but instead of flurry put in makr of rodgort.

P.S. I like most of the songs u use Racthoh . A few ended on my iPod Mark is 25 energy isn't it? And since they'll use Melandru's Resistance, it will only be -4 degen from the burning while that is in effect. And as aB- mentioned, they will Savage Shot it.

kvndoom

kvndoom

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Communistwealth of Virginia

Uninstalled

W/Mo

Been loving this run, still love this run. Here's my setup currently:

15 swords
14 tactics
9 str
3 inspiration

Dragon Slash
Standing Slash
Silverwing Slash
Flail
Shields Up
Physical resistance
HEal Sig
Sprint

I Use a Duelists cap, knight's chest and legs, and Beserker everything else (though you could go full Knight's exceot for cap if you so desire).

Strongroot's Shield (9str, +30, -2 in stance)
Sskai's sword (+30, 10% furious)

I take 2 extra pieces of armor with minor runes, to swap out for the initial run, that gives me 600 health. When I get to the cave, I swap back and do the spiders with 450. Less heath is better, since the Savage Shot spam is based off a percentage of full health, not an arbitrary number. Healing 1/3 of max helth with Heal Sig is a good thing.

Shield's Up is my bread and butter. When it's up, I can use Flail liberally. Plenty of Armor, IAS, and my "in stance" bonuses still apply (shield and Standing Slash). When SU runs out, I hit Physical Resistance until it recharges.

I exclusively use Sskai's sword. When Furious procs on Dragon Slash, it's a sight to behold. Can't help but love when your elite recharges itself (not to mention your other 2 attacks as well).

Many thanks to Ractoh for starting this crazyness. I just can't get enough...

Marty Silverblade

Marty Silverblade

Administrator

Join Date: Jun 2006

After ~15 months of playing GW and not once having 100k on either a char or in storage, I've decided to do something about it (I've also never had an ecto either, (unless you include the frozen kind that featured during Wintersday 2006) but thats another story).

Anyway, I looked at the equipment and it mentioned a zealous mod :0!!!! I don't have one of those! So I looked at the skills and tried to change stuff to make it energy friendly.

Sprint -> Won't be used in a fight. It is fine, not to mention essential.
Flurry -> Flail. This was written in 2005 and I don't see why it can't replace.
Hundred Blades -> Well, it's needed. No other Sword skill could replace it without reworking the build.
Watch Yourself! -> Adrenaline skill. No problem.
Galrath Slash -> Adrenaline skill. No problem.
Final Thrust -> Adrenaline skill. No problem.
Healing Signet -> Signet. No problem.
Dolyak Signet -> Signet. No problem.

Wow. So I'm only thinking of swapping Flurry for Flail. That shouldn't be too bad. If anyone sees a problem then I'd appreciate it if it was mentioned. Also if there are tips for someone new to this then I'd appreciate them too (I don't want to waste the 50k I have spent forever saving up). Keep in mind I haven't farmed anything in ages.

Also, I'm sorry for bumping this thread, although it's not really a bump... Well if I did something I shouldn't have then I'm sorry.

zeroxy

zeroxy

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Dark Angels of Rising Chaos [DaRc]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by lambda the great
Expensive?
Collector shield:2 worm things
Zealous mod: 10kish
Defense mod: 500goldish
1.5k glads

You can make well over 20k on a good run. Actually..wont knight's armor work better?

mathijn

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

holland

[PIKY]

R/

any armor will work, when you master the run, you can run it with almost every build

Racthoh

Racthoh

Did I hear 7 heroes?

Join Date: May 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Marty Silverblade
Sprint -> Won't be used in a fight. It is fine, not to mention essential.
Flurry -> Flail. This was written in 2005 and I don't see why it can't replace.
Hundred Blades -> Well, it's needed. No other Sword skill could replace it without reworking the build.
Watch Yourself! -> Adrenaline skill. No problem.
Galrath Slash -> Adrenaline skill. No problem.
Final Thrust -> Adrenaline skill. No problem.
Healing Signet -> Signet. No problem.
Dolyak Signet -> Signet. No problem. Well that was the first build when all there was the chapter 1 skills (geez, so long ago ). This was just the first build I tried since at the time it was what I was using in normal FoW groups except sprint for a res naturally.

Vexed

Vexed

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2006

Mo/

@ Marty,

You certainly don't need a zealous mod with that skillset.

And Hundred Blades is hardly required. Probably the best sword elite for the run is Dragon Slash, assuming you have Factions.

Just make sure you have your Strength pumped so you can keep Dolyak up as much as possible until you get the feel for it. Honestly if you're just starting out I'd drop Dolyak and go /me for Physical Resistance, it's easy to keep up constantly with about 6 inspiration. You lose your IAS, but it's a bit safer for learning the ropes, in my opinion.

MMSDome

MMSDome

Raged Out

Join Date: Sep 2005

I find a +45/-2 shield work better then a shield with +10 armor vs piercing and +35 in stance. Is it me or is this so? Also I am looking for a -2/-2 shield so if anyone has one please pm me in game!

mathijn

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

holland

[PIKY]

R/

dont underestimate quivering blade =)
its a fine skill for spiders

Mesmer in Need

Mesmer in Need

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

[ToA]

I tried this for the first time last night, and i guess i got lucky.

this works great

FrazzAZA

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

Masterminds

Me/

does this still work???? I tried with my dervish build... which is proven to work on wiki but i cant seem to manage to get to the spiders without agroing scales or dryders at the sae tme as the driftwoods. can anyone help?

manitoba1073

manitoba1073

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

ManitobaShipyards Refit and Repair Station

(SFC)Star Fleet Command,(TDE)The Daggerfall elite,(SOoM)Secret order of Magi

For those wondering yes it still works. Still use my original one like Racthoh's. Still havent seen anyone beat 14 shards yet in a single run.

Racthoh

Racthoh

Did I hear 7 heroes?

Join Date: May 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)

Quote:
Originally Posted by FrazzAZA
does this still work???? I tried with my dervish build... which is proven to work on wiki but i cant seem to manage to get to the spiders without agroing scales or dryders at the sae tme as the driftwoods. can anyone help? What does the dervish build use for running? When you aggro skales you should be booking it out of there.

FrazzAZA

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

Masterminds

Me/

well i use avatar of balth for almost constant speed boost and armour.

FrazzAZA

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

Masterminds

Me/

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Build:D...olo_FoW_Farmer here is a link to the build, i haven't got pious haste yet though.... I know that i should run but i never make it out in time and i cant seem to find safe spots where i dont aggro

SnipiousMax

SnipiousMax

Perfectly Elocuted

Join Date: Sep 2005

Has anyone tried Enraging Charge in place of Sprint? It's not quite as long a speed burst, but it's definately more useful when you start fighting.