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Genosha

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2005

Cowville, CA.

31 Mar 2005 at 03:35 - 81

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loviatar

All i can say is that i have not
it simply works out to whatever works for you and there is room for all

Amen to that!

megazero

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2005

31 Mar 2005 at 03:44 - 82

im using a

AMD 2100+
Ati 9600XT
768MB DDR400
17" Monitor
60GB Hard drive + 20 GB hard drive

Ellestar

Munchking

Join Date: Mar 2005

Russian Federation, Moscow

Ladder to Hell (ATM playing with Rus Corp)

31 Mar 2005 at 04:13 - 83

Quote:

Originally Posted by staindreality

well mine doesnt compete with most of yours but mine is:
dell
pentium 4 2.4 mhz
1gig ram
4200ti geforce 4 (? i just ordered a leadtech geforce 6600gt and should be in tomorrow. i was wondering if anyone new if my power supply will be ok to support the card with my dell?)
cd rom drive
cd/rw drive
sound blaster live

I had 300 W PowerMan power supply with same configuration - P4 2400, 1 Gb RAM, GeForce 4 Ti 4200, combo drive (DVD and CD-RW). When i upgraded video to GeForce 6800 it wasn't enough. 360 W PowerMan power supply works fine. GeForce 6600 gt uses almost as much power as GeForce 6800 so probably you need 360 W power supply too.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Perishiko ReLLiK

Also, i gave it an upgrade in ram... up to 511 (even tho i thought 512 was the standard.)

You have 512 Mb RAM for sure. Most likely that BIOS uses 1 Mb to cache ROM and shows that you have less RAM.

Genosha

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2005

Cowville, CA.

31 Mar 2005 at 06:44 - 84

350+, But more like a 400+. For what I run a 400 barely works.. Next Power supply will be a 500+..... But i'm running a Antec Case with a 400W I installed itself because the supply I had was a 350W it did not do the job....

Virtuoso

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2005

31 Mar 2005 at 16:22 - 85

AMD Barton 2500+ ($118)

Intel P4 3.0GHz ($198)

I have benchmarked both of these processors in similar systems and the AMD beat the P4 by a small margin. Not bad considering how much cheaper it is. Keep in mind I also bought my Barton almost 2 years ago, when they first came out, for $80. Do you have any idea how much the P4 3.06GHz was at that time? A lot more.

Oh, and I didn't mind your post. It's not offensive at all. But while were "bashing", it's OK because I realized you shop at Fry's.

The ony people I know that shop there for hardware are people who live in Canada because they can't get some of the deals in other places like we can in the states.

-Virt

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

31 Mar 2005 at 17:33 - 86

Quote:

Originally Posted by Virtuoso

AMD Barton 2500+ ($118)

Intel P4 3.0GHz ($198)

I have benchmarked both of these processors in similar systems and the AMD beat the P4 by a small margin. Not bad considering how much cheaper it is. Keep in mind I also bought my Barton almost 2 years ago, when they first came out, for $80. Do you have any idea how much the P4 3.06GHz was at that time? A lot more.
-Virt

i got mine for 79 (RETAIL PACKAGE)

do not ever buy the OEM processor which has a 30 DAY warranty when you can buy the RETAIL for only a few dollars more with a 3 YEAR warranty

shoot those have gone up in price

DarkWasp

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2005

Paradise

Agency Of Forbidden Fruits [Oot]

R/A

31 Mar 2005 at 19:23 - 87

You know what bothers me sometimes, There is alot of people who bust 600 USD on a 3gig P4 and a Geforce 6800 with all the overclockage and stuff. And you later find them complaining about there PCs running slow and buggy.

There are two reasons for this, They only have 512 mb of ram. If you want to run games with all the settings up, and the veiw distances and all, you will need around 768 or more.

And two clear spyware and adware off often.

Just some advice

Genosha

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2005

Cowville, CA.

04 Apr 2005 at 01:58 - 88

Virtuoso

Hee hee, Most of the people that argue CPU's get offended when I get into the differences of durability & power.

Your pretty cool....

Quote:

DarkWasp
You know what bothers me sometimes, There is alot of people who bust 600 USD on a 3gig P4 and a Geforce 6800 with all the overclockage and stuff. And you later find them complaining about there PCs running slow and buggy.

There are two reasons for this, They only have 512 mb of ram. If you want to run games with all the settings up, and the veiw distances and all, you will need around 768 or more.

And two clear spyware and adware off often.

Now now, I run 512 mb of ram on 3 computers and they are some of the fastest you have ever seen. BUT, you are right for the most part most people don't ever clean the cache in their browser or run drive clean-ups (I.E. Defrag) and scan disk in XP is useless.

CheopisIV

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2005

Calgary, AB

04 Apr 2005 at 05:37 - 89

My latest wanna-build is as follows...(and I predict SLI will go the way of 3DFX aka

IE!) (<---- edit = oopsy, made a stoopid

face read as "DIE!)

Dave's Dream Machine

Intel Pentium 4 Processor 660 3.60 GHz $829.95

Asus P5AD2-E $329.95

eVGA e-Geforce 6800 Ultra 256MB DDR3 PCI-E w/ Dual DVI, TV-Out $829.95

Antec TruePower 550W EPS12V for Server Boards $169.95
Viewsonic P225FB (Pure Flat CRT, 22in, Black) (Special Order) $829.95
Samsung SyncMaster 213T (LCD, 21in, Black - Special Order) $1199.95

Kingston 1GB PC2-4200 DDR2 SDRAM $239.95
Kingston 1GB PC2-4200 DDR2 SDRAM $239.95
Kingston 1GB PC2-4200 DDR2 SDRAM $239.95
Kingston 1GB PC2-4200 DDR2 SDRAM $239.95

-Western Digital Raptor 74.8GB 10,000 RPM Serial ATA $249.95
-Western Digital Raptor 74.8GB 10,000 RPM Serial ATA $249.95
Seagate 400GB Barracuda 7200.8 Serial ATA w/ NCQ, 8MB Cache $469.95
Seagate 400GB Barracuda 7200.8 Serial ATA w/ NCQ, 8MB Cache $469.95

LiteOn 52x32x52x/16x CD-RW/DVD-ROM Combo Drive, Black (OEM) $64.95
Plextor PX-716A 16x16 Dual Layer DVD+/-RW (Retail) $169.95

Wave Master Aluminum Case, Black (Special Order) $209.95

Creative Labs Sound Blaster Audigy 4 Pro (Retail) $339.95

Logitech Z-5500 Digital THX® Certified 5.1 Speaker System $369.95

$7744.05
+GST
$8286.13

or maybe I'll buy a Jeep lol.

Lews

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2005

Seattle, Washington

R/E

04 Apr 2005 at 05:54 - 90

I hate to say it, but for that money you could buy a way better pc... There's these things called amd and ati.

NEWater

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

04 Apr 2005 at 07:53 - 91

Here is my humble system.

Intel Pentium 4 2.8E
1 GB Corsair DDR-SDRAM
80GB Toshiba HDD
80GB Western Digital HDD
ATi Radeon 9800 Pro 128MB 256-bit memory
Creative Audigy Platinum External
Creative 5.1 speakers (forgot model number)
Sennheiser PC150 (for gaming)
Sennheiser HD477 (for music/movies)
Logitech MX510

Zfactor

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

NYC

Freelance

Mo/E

04 Apr 2005 at 11:54 - 92

Intel P4 560 3.6 GHz w/ HT
ATI Radeon x800 XT 256MB PCI Express x16
1024MB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM @ 533MHz (2x 512 MB)
2x 74GB Serial ATA Western Digital "Raptor" HDD (@ 10,000 RPM)
48x CD-RW/ || 16x DVD+/- RW
SoundBlaster Audigy ZS 2 THX Certified
Windows XP SP2
Logitech MX1000 Lazer Mouse

I just got the system to replace my 5 year old hunk of junk about 5 months ago (Near the release of Half-Life 2)

CheopisIV

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2005

Calgary, AB

04 Apr 2005 at 20:56 - 93

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lews

I hate to say it, but for that money you could buy a way better pc... There's these things called amd and ati.

Lol, I know..this was just a composite of the "top-o-the-line" parts available at one particular store in my city. Remember, this price is in Canadian funds, which translates to about $62.53 US...give or take a couple G's.

Elythe

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

04 Apr 2005 at 22:05 - 94

Quote:

Originally Posted by Genosha

Now now, I run 512 mb of ram on 3 computers and they are some of the fastest you have ever seen. BUT, you are right for the most part most people don't ever clean the cache in their browser or run drive clean-ups (I.E. Defrag) and scan disk in XP is useless.

512 mb of ram works just fine for me, too. And as far as defragmentors go, I've found Diskeeper works pretty well.

www.diskeeper.com

Sennarc

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2005

AR

05 Apr 2005 at 02:02 - 95

I am overdue for a little bit of an upgrade. When Guild Wars comes out I will be running it on a Athalon XP 1800, 512mb of standard DDR ram, Radeon 9700, Soundblaster Audigy. but, by the end of the summer I should be running on a
Athalon 64 FX 939 3500, 1 gig of Corsair ram, ATI Radeon 9700, Sound Blaster Audigy and hopefully, I will have enough left over to throw in a 200 gig 7200 rpm HD.

SSE4

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

05 Apr 2005 at 03:33 - 96

Just so some of you know, the XP line of processors were typically behind in consideration to their "P-scale".

Quote:

Originally Posted by Virtuoso

"I am really surprised by the number of Intel users in this post."

You can truly be surprised by the number of Intels out there when it owns more than 75% of the market share?

I have several computers but I intend on using my AMD for Guild Wars, like I do for all games.
AMD64 3500+ Winchester
Neo4 Platinum SLI
512MB XMS Corsair RAM
GeForce 6600GT

Also Sennarc, you might be misinformed, but the normal "3500+ models" are not called FX.

The majority of you don't need to worry about your computer specs. It's not like you're playing Half-Life 2, it's mostly your VGAs that are going to take a hit from a MMORPG.

Virtuoso

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2005

05 Apr 2005 at 04:33 - 97

Quote:

Originally Posted by SSE4

Just so some of you know, the XP line of processors were typically behind in consideration to their "P-scale".

You can truly be surprised by the number of Intels out there when it owns more than 75% of the market share?

I have several computers but I intend on using my AMD for Guild Wars, like I do for all games.
AMD64 3500+ Winchester
Neo4 Platinum SLI
512MB XMS Corsair RAM
GeForce 6600GT

Also Sennarc, you might be misinformed, but the normal "3500+ models" are not called FX.

The majority of you don't need to worry about your computer specs. It's not like you're playing Half-Life 2, it's mostly your VGAs that are going to take a hit from a MMORPG.

Yes, because almost all of the gamers I know run AMDs. Therefore, in a gaming forum, I am suprised at the number of people running Intels.

-Virt

Virtuoso

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2005

05 Apr 2005 at 04:35 - 98

Quote:

Originally Posted by Genosha

Virtuoso

Hee hee, Most of the people that argue CPU's get offended when I get into the differences of durability & power.

Your pretty cool....

Thank you for the compliment. I try to stay cool, although it can be difficult at times, lol.

-Virt

SSE4

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

05 Apr 2005 at 04:45 - 99

This forum may focus around a MMORPG, but when I see MMORPG players they hardly classify as "gamers" in a lot of respects. They aren't typically as enthusiastic. Sure they have that drive for classical RPG action on a wider scope, but it doesn't even put them anywhere near the "enthusiast" list, which is really one of the only prominent groups that would think of using AMD. Also, Intel has superior influence in the market due to companies like Dell.

Virtuoso

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2005

05 Apr 2005 at 05:05 - 100

Yea, I agree with you. I was just surprised. Nothing more, nothing less.

-Virt

Genosha

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2005

Cowville, CA.

05 Apr 2005 at 21:47 - 101

Cough Cough... AMD's Hmm...You see I still disagree about AMD, but I also had AMD's before this Intel. My last ASUS motherboard with AMD XP CPU bit the dust do to a little glitch it didn't take a beating. Gotta watch Gigabyte though for motherboards they can be touchy. But my ABIT is nice and smooth no problems yet with the same 2.4gig cpu and my free floating fan from my Gigabyte board. As for the XP line I never really saw anything special about them. I know that I had come across an article that said they were under power and some of the timing was off. Something about bus speeds.

LordFu

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2005

Mid-MO

|Dickheads 1n Excess|

05 Apr 2005 at 22:03 - 102

Well, here are my stats, if anyone cares.

P4 2.8C w/HT
Albatron 865PE Pro MoBo
Corsair XMS 1GB Dual Channel
Seagate Caviar 80GB x2
GeForce 5200 w/256MB (soon to be replaced)

Genosha

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2005

Cowville, CA.

05 Apr 2005 at 22:10 - 103

Quote:

Originally Posted by LordFu

Well, here are my stats, if anyone cares.
Albatron 865PE Pro MoBo

I CARE

Anways that's a Gigabyte correct? With Dual Bios? Did they fix the glitch the with dieing Bios after a year? I had the 845PE and croaked on me.... Sniff sniff and I thought I was special...

LordFu

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2005

Mid-MO

|Dickheads 1n Excess|

06 Apr 2005 at 13:17 - 104

Nah, the manufacturer is Albatron. The only problem I've had with it is with the on board NIC. It's far to sensitive to line noise, and it reports being disconnected every 5 or 10 seconds. I had to use a PCI Ethernet adapter.

Genosha

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2005

Cowville, CA.

06 Apr 2005 at 23:33 - 105

Try a line filter maybe that will clean it up... FYI if you have dsl you need 2 line filters... Unless you use a filter on the DSL line....

Vyxxen Heartstomper

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

San Diego

Mistress Alexa's Minions

W/Mo

07 Apr 2005 at 00:28 - 106

This is not spam, but ummm... do you have a license for that rig, sir?!

I'm actually enjoying reading these posts as I'm shopping for a new computer, about $1600.00. Any suggestions, anyone? And not some custom built jobber that will take too long to get to me. And I'd like something portable. ... good gaming laptop. Suggestions?

--Vyxxen Heartstomper

==

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chev of Hardass

Intel 2.4ghz HT with 800mhz fsb
Chaintech 9CJS motherboard w/dual LAN
512megs PC3200 @ 400mhz and dual channel
NVidia GeForce 5200
Sony 48x burner/pos cdrom
7.1 Vinyl Audio sound card hooked up to 4 Altec Lansing computer speakers and 1 Cerwin Vega 15" downfiring 200w sub
NEC 21" main monitor and after I get the adaptor Gateway 17" secondary
Enough fans tha I can hardly sleep at night with it on
Apogee software monitoring the 39-45C degree CPU temp displayed on the 6-in-1 card reader/ usb/firewire port
160G Seagate,40G Seagate, 40G maxtor, and 6G Fugitsu HD all 7200 excpt the 6G
400w powmax power supply (never buy powmax)
Gateway internet keyboard and Dell mouse on a Elderly Intrument mouse pad

Lansing Kai Don

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2005

Kansas

07 Apr 2005 at 01:12 - 107

Quote:

Originally Posted by SSE4

The majority of you don't need to worry about your computer specs. It's not like you're playing Half-Life 2, it's mostly your VGAs that are going to take a hit from a MMORPG.

I agree that the general user doesn't need to know (probably... but knowledge is power). But how do you get that your VGA's will take most of the hit? The CPU has to process the data before it gets to the VGA... I agree with you except it can be misleading. Just tring to keep from "I've got a 450MHz w/ a 128MP GeForce 6800GT and the game is all laggy"

Lansing Kai Don

P.S. Wow, Drizzt, do you not think they've hit a block with how small they can go? And your numbers are really loos Virt, 5Mhz is equal to 5x10^6 cycles per second, or 5 cycles per microsecond. Didn't know if that was intentional, just trying to make sure that people undestand.

Genosha

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2005

Cowville, CA.

07 Apr 2005 at 01:17 - 108

Quick Answers:
www.outpost.com

www.ebay.com

Curious:
You can always go to Paypal and check out their sales...

Cronic

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

Florida, St. Pete

07 Apr 2005 at 01:53 - 109

Intel Pentium 4 CPU 2.66GHz
512 RAM (Kingston HyperX)
ASUS "P5GDC-V Deluxe" 915G Chipset Motherboard For Intel
GeForce 6800 GT OC (256 onboard)
80 Gigabite HD (western Digital)
500 watt (video sucks up a lot of power) Antec P.S.
HP DVD burner-
52x CD drive

I think thats it---- LOL

I also dont think this matter---ON a piece of crap Monitor

--AGAIN-- also an 24 bit sound blaster "LIVE!" [Wit the best surround sound head phones- There cool

Jugalator

Site Contributor

Join Date: Feb 2005

Sweden

The Amazon Basin [AB]

07 Apr 2005 at 02:23 - 110

Pentium 4 2.6 GHz
Abit IS7-E motherboard (I don't need no stinkin' RAID

)
512 MB DDR-RAM
Samsung SyncMaster 957MB 19" monitor
Maxtor DiamondMax 9 160 GB drive
Geforce FX 5600 128 MB (bahh, what's making GW often run at ~20 fps, just low enough to be a bit annoying

of course I could lower the detail level from what it recommends me to use, but what fun is there in that

)

Armaio

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

Canada

07 Apr 2005 at 02:36 - 111

AMD Athlon XP 2500+ (1.46 GHz - My Power Supply BLOWS)
1.00 GB Generic RAM (Good RAM, QUALITY)
Nvidia Geforce 6600GT
Asus A7V8X-X Motherboard
Integrated Soundblaster Live
Western Digital HD 40GB (Dont know specs, lost packaging, I know there is something extra on it I paid for...)

Chev of Hardass

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2005

Under a rock

zP

Me/

07 Apr 2005 at 02:58 - 112

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vyxxen Heartstomper

I'm actually enjoying reading these posts as I'm shopping for a new computer, about $1600.00. Any suggestions, anyone? And not some custom built jobber that will take too long to get to me. And I'd like something portable. ... good gaming laptop. Suggestions?

--Vyxxen Heartstomper

==

I'm glad you appreciate the rig, but $1600? sure i'll sell you mine for $1600. I think over the last 2.5 years I have spent $1200 or so on this thing. Little bits at a time, but my chip is over 2 and a half years old. I want a 1600Mhz FSB 3.0Ghz with the 12Gig of ram I saw parts for online..............

Ahh the beauty of waiting till the technology comes down in price. If you want some advice go to tigerdirect.com they have a great online resource for putting together a system. Also, get the best motherboard you can and fill it with memory.

BTW I just replaced my powersupply with a SP? 400W with a 120mm fan and my temp dropped 10 degrees. That was worth every penny of the $27 I spent.

Virtuoso

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2005

07 Apr 2005 at 04:43 - 113

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vyxxen Heartstomper

This is not spam, but ummm... do you have a license for that rig, sir?!

I'm actually enjoying reading these posts as I'm shopping for a new computer, about $1600.00. Any suggestions, anyone? And not some custom built jobber that will take too long to get to me. And I'd like something portable. ... good gaming laptop. Suggestions?

--Vyxxen Heartstomper

==

Check out this post of mine. It answers your question pretty well.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lansing Kai Don

P.S. Wow, Drizzt, do you not think they've hit a block with how small they can go? And your numbers are really loos Virt, 5Mhz is equal to 5x10^6 cycles per second, or 5 cycles per microsecond. Didn't know if that was intentional, just trying to make sure that people undestand.

Yeah, it was intentional. Just trying to make things a little easier on people. I dunno about everyone else, but when I see numbers like 5x10^6 describing something I know very little about I get a little confused. Thanks for the information, though.

-Virt

Kellogs

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2005

[oOo] Oodles of Noobles

07 Apr 2005 at 08:34 - 114

I have a 2.2 Gig p4 processor
512mb ddr ram
geforce 4 ti 4600

Got this pc about 2-3 years ago. It works great with Guild Wars even though graphics card is far from top of the line, but im planning to build a new pc in the summer anyway for FPS games...

Jaythen Tyradel

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

07 Apr 2005 at 15:01 - 115

Dell Computer
Pentium 4
2.2ghz
1 gig of mem
128mb pci nvidia geforce 5500 graphics card
cable modem hookup

runs fine....

Droniac

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2005

The Netherlands

Orto Sole

W/N

07 Apr 2005 at 15:27 - 116

I have a:

AMD Athlon64 3200+
Asus K8V SE DX Motherboard
Club3D ATi Radeon X800 Pro
1024 MB RAM (Kingston)
160 GB Harddisk (Western Digital)
Audigy 2 soundcard
Antec P160 case (aluminium, perfect for LAN-parties!)
19" Iiyama monitor (horrible for LAN-parties! ;p)
Razer Viper as a mouse (probaply most sensitive mouse ever made, a bit small though ;\) with a Steelpad 4D for grip (Viper works on very few surfaces, but no mouse can compare to a Viper on a steelpad - no mouse at all)
A 6.1 Surround Sound system from Creative
And a Speedlink Multimedia headset (which simulates surround sound & is very comfortable)

Then there's the best part:
A DVD player that won't open (not even with emergency eject) ;\

Nichos Katran

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2005

Windsor, Ontario, Canada

Eternal Knights

N/Me

07 Apr 2005 at 15:53 - 117

AMD Athlon 2600 XP 1.9 GHz
512MB DDR Ram
ATI Radeon 9600 SE 128MB Vid Card
Sound Blaster 16 Channel Audio Card
19" Flat Screen CRT
80GB Western Digital HD 8MB Cache
Logitech Internet Chat Headset (same one offered in CE, but still buying it)

Khelnozz

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2005

The Fireblades

N/W

07 Apr 2005 at 16:06 - 118

Just built this system a few weeks ago:

AMD 64 3000+
MSI Neo4 Plat M/B
1 gig Corsair matched pair Ram
MSI 6600gt Graphics
200 gig seagate 7200.8 Hard Drive
Wraped in a Antec aluminum (sp.

) case w/400 watt true power PS

I have been enjoying it since I came from an AMD K6-2 500 with 192 Mb Ram. This will be my first BWE that I can actually play. I have been with Guild Wars since the WPE in October but I could just use it as a high end chat client.

Can’t wait and hope to see you all there.

Cronic

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

Florida, St. Pete

07 Apr 2005 at 19:48 - 119

Whats it with people and there AMD?

Go intel!

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

07 Apr 2005 at 21:16 - 120

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cronic

Whats it with people and there AMD?

Go intel!

well lets see

cheaper
more efficient per clock
fastest AMD beats fastest current extreme edition intel cpu

thats a few right there

i use them for best bang for buck

however i dont go around yelling go AMD

there are lots of them because the people who build their own pcs made a choice

there is room for all

even intel