White Dye Formula

bowwow

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ok..since noone is trying it out for real i decided to give it a go on 15k gladiators > this is 3 silver + 1 dye remover



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im happy with it

aron searle

aron searle

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Quote:
Originally Posted by bowwow
ok..since noone is trying it out for real i decided to give it a go on 15k gladiators > this is 3 silver + 1 dye remover



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im happy with it It is very nice

but why 3 silver and dye remover, you get the same from 1 silver and dye remover?

bowwow

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well not really i think. I took 1 dye remover each time, and mixed that with 3 silver...with each silver you see the dye remover become lighter and lighter.

Think about this.. if you mix 1 bottle of red paint with one bottle of white paint you would get lighter red. But then when you use 3 bottles of white to mix with 1 bottle of red the red would be alot lighter.. I take it its working the same way with the GW dyes

Transluecent51

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Heres the closest Ive gotten white on my ele. It works for me...but formula I used is yellow+silver+silver+silver. Depending on where you are it always differs in color if you have a silver in a mix because lighting. Silvers with dye remover just gives some crappy colors no close to white in my trails.

bowwow

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Originally Posted by RTSFirebat
Very cool looking, have to use that on my Warrior once I get her Droknar's or 15K armor... how you can put up with that glowing I'll never know.

I have my graphics turned down slightly to get rid of that bright glowing crap yeah its that anti alliasing that makes it glow a bit. I have all graphicsettings turned up to max. i might try and lower aa a bit. It looks alot better ingame though

aron searle

aron searle

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Quote:
Originally Posted by bowwow
well not really i think. I took 1 dye remover each time, and mixed that with 3 silver...with each silver you see the dye remover become lighter and lighter.

Think about this.. if you mix 1 bottle of red paint with one bottle of white paint you would get lighter red. But then when you use 3 bottles of white to mix with 1 bottle of red the red would be alot lighter.. I take it its working the same way with the GW dyes Right so you didnt use 1 dye remover as you said then but 3?

so its the same as 1 silver dye, and adding 3 dye removers to it.

bowwow

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Quote:
Originally Posted by aron searle
Right so you didnt use 1 dye remover as you said then but 3?

so its the same as 1 silver dye, and adding 3 dye removers to it. noooo..the other way around. Take 1 dyeremover, and throw 3 silvers in it. The dye remover in your inventory will get lighter with each silver you drop in it..hope that explains it

aron searle

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Originally Posted by bowwow
noooo..the other way around. Take 1 dyeremover, and throw 3 silvers in it. The dye remover in your inventory will get lighter with each silver you drop in it..hope that explains it ahhhhh i get you now, i will play about with that.

Rancour

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Now, I haven't actually tested this, but I remember being told that Dye Remover doesn't actually make anything lighter, but makes it more transparent, thereby making the BASE COLOR of armor shine through it.

That means that a Dye Remover with 3x Silvers will make a light silver that lets the base color of the armor it's a applied to, shine through more. That might explain the funny colors people are experiencing; the Dye Remover that everyone is throwing into the mix is letting the color of the blue (?) Platemail armor shine through the 3x Silvers. That was an example and I ain't even sure.

Just throwing in some information.

aron searle

aron searle

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rancour
Now, I haven't actually tested this, but I remember being told that Dye Remover doesn't actually make anything lighter, but makes it more transparent, thereby making the BASE COLOR of armor shine through it.

That means that a Dye Remover with 3x Silvers will make a light silver that lets the base color of the armor it's a applied to, shine through more. That might explain the funny colors people are experiencing; the Dye Remover that everyone is throwing into the mix is letting the color of the blue (?) Platemail armor shine through the 3x Silvers. That was an example and I ain't even sure.

Just throwing in some information. And just to confuse you all further (hell i dont get it).

silver + dye remover applied to 15k dragon armour = purple

bowwow

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Dye Remover is just a bottle of the base color of your armor..so for 15k gladiators its gold/yellow

Rancour

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Quote:
Originally Posted by bowwow
Dye Remover is just a bottle of the base color of your armor..so for 15k gladiators its gold/yellow I'm not so sure. A Dye Remover is a bottle of, well, bleach. It removes any dye/paint that has been applied, leaving only the color of the actual armor. On 15k gladiator's armor, the base color is a goldish-yellow. Dye Remover removes anything BUT that color.

However, you might be right too. The problem is that we don't know, and that causes some problems. Either Dye Remover ADDS the old color on top of everything new, or it removes all the new and leaves the old.

I think it's the last one but...

Slade xTekno

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rancour
I'm not so sure. A Dye Remover is a bottle of, well, bleach. It removes any dye/paint that has been applied, leaving only the color of the actual armor. On 15k gladiator's armor, the base color is a goldish-yellow. Dye Remover removes anything BUT that color.

However, you might be right too. The problem is that we don't know, and that causes some problems. Either Dye Remover ADDS the old color on top of everything new, or it removes all the new and leaves the old.

I think it's the last one but... /sigh I really wish you guys would read the first post.

Dye Remover is a gimmicky name. It doesn't actually remove any dye, but instead dyes the Armor its original base color. It's basically a Vial of Dye that is always the base color of the armor it's used on, and it also acts as such when used in a dye mix.

Weazzol

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Any Mesmers out there find a nice white'sh combination yet? If so, do you have any pic's?

I did the yellow + 3 silvers on mine that has drok armor (rouge chest & boots, and I think just ench's hands & legs). It made the trim pretty darn close to white, but the main color was just more of a light grey. I'll try to remember to post a couple pics when I get home.

aron searle

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Quote:
Originally Posted by bowwow
noooo..the other way around. Take 1 dyeremover, and throw 3 silvers in it. The dye remover in your inventory will get lighter with each silver you drop in it..hope that explains it Well i just want to confirm, i also tried this on my 15k plate and its quite a good white compared to what i had before.

fyi

the helm is orange and silver
the breastplate dye remover +3 silvers
the arms silver
the leggs plain
(was experimenting)

twicky_kid

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yellow + silver + silver + silver is more of a tanned color than white. white would be the color of the monks robes.

i think its all a gimmick and really depends on your graphics card and what your settings are. hell i can make green purple just by using my card settings if i really wanted to.

kimo the healer

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Anyone know how to dye ascetics white?
Here is my experiment with yellow+silver+silver+silver
It's just looks light blue.

Maybe i should've done more research first.

Slade xTekno

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Quote:
Originally Posted by kimo the healer
Anyone know how to dye ascetics white?
Here is my experiment with yellow+silver+silver+silver
It's just looks light blue.

Maybe i should've done more research first. Hmm, Yellow should have done the trick. Did you accidently use Dye Remover instead?

ump

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Join Date: Nov 2005

The way I see it, people are wasting too much silver dyes (although they can probably afford to). Anyways, why not use a dye remover only as a test on the armor. Now if the dye remover shows that the base color of the armor is not yellow, then you do not have a choice and must use the yellow. If it is yellowish then try yellow only probably on a different armor to compare. Pick the lighter of the two colors as the base color (or yellow if the remover does not make it yellow). Adding a silver to the base makes it lighter. Adding silver to the base three times makes it even more lighter. So you have either yellow+silver+silver+silver or possibly dye remover+silver+silver+silver (that doesn't always work). I have not tested this because I cannot afford it, but would love to make my monks armor white in the future and this seems like the method to make it as white as possible. You can probably even test out with a dye remover only to see what parts of the armor is dyable to see if it's worth changing the color.

Bugeater

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Quote:
Originally Posted by aron searle
Blue + Blue = Blue
Confirmed - First off it's hard to even mix Blue with Blue. It won't let you double click a stack and apply it to the same stack. So I got one in my storage and one in my inventory and applied one to the other (why does that work? I don't know) The result is exactly the same color. I have screenies if anyone needs proof.

Quote: Originally Posted by Slade xTekno Dye Remover is a gimmicky name. It doesn't actually remove any dye, but instead dyes the Armor its original base color. It's basically a Vial of Dye that is always the base color of the armor it's used on, and it also acts as such when used in a dye mix. Unconfirmed - You might think that was the case, but after I dyed my platemail white (YS3) I tried dye remover and got a bit of a yellow color. Tried dye remover again - no change. What's that about?

And the YS3 formula does make platemail white - as much as you can dye drok's platemail. The dye-able areas are much smaller than the blue-silver that the main, non-dye-able areas are. So you're left with normal armor with white trim.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ump
The way I see it, people are wasting too much silver dyes Confirmed - I'm a major offender.

Slade xTekno

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bugeater
Unconfirmed - You might think that was the case, but after I dyed my platemail white (YS3) I tried dye remover and got a bit of a yellow color. Tried dye remover again - no change. What's that about?

And the YS3 formula does make platemail white - as much as you can dye drok's platemail. The dye-able areas are much smaller than the blue-silver that the main, non-dye-able areas are. So you're left with normal armor with white trim. Hmm. Some armors come dyed a color that is not their base. I think Droknar's Tormentor's Armor for Necros is one such example.

I am also such an offender. I have spend over 50k testing formulas.

kimo the healer

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ok, i did more testing.
chest: yellow+silver+silver+silver
arm: dye remover
leg: dye remover+silver+silver+silver

chest and legs look the same to me. it's just light blue, not even close to white. Anyone know how to get ascetics white?

Bugeater

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Do differerent tatoos dye differently? I just saw a monk with white tatoos and asked him what color they were. He told me plain silver.

Tactical-Dillusions

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3 Silver + 1 dye remover on Droknars ranger drakescale.



I can't believe i removed my black just to try it, lol.

Omega_2005

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seems that 3 silvers and a dye remover makes it er.... grey in some areas... AFAIK there is no proper white dye formula, and even mixing red green and blue comes out more hideous than I first thought...

I'll try and see what it comes out of on a spare drop item that I've found before I conclude the 'closest thing to paper-white'

also, it does show up brilliant white on my uber-hammer (ish, the Yellow +3 silvers) so it's just what type of item you have before testing. The Necro and Monk tattoos have different color sheets as well as the Chaos Axe.

tlr1293

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I have on my Ranger Armor, what could be considered a 'dirty white'. The formula:

Silver + 1 Dye Remover + 1 Dye Remover + 1 Dye Remover

The Dye Remover is mixed to the Silver before placing on the armor. You will notice that the color of the new 'Mixed Dye' is nowhere near White. I placed it on the armor anyway and was very suprised at the outcome!


So, Silver Dye in the bag, applied 3 Dye Removers no matter the look of the result, then applied it to armor. It is the best formula I have seen for White as it seems to come the closest.

No perfect 'White Mantle' White, but dirty white is OK for me.




(if this was mentioned earlier, my apologies)

Nefertem

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No perfect white dye, if you consider white to be R(255),G(255),B(255). You can get close, but you won't get it.

Slade xTekno

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nefertem
No perfect white dye, if you consider white to be R(255),G(255),B(255). You can get close, but you won't get it. Of course not. I made a not in the original post that it is actually a "cream." I just wish I could get Evennia white.

twicky_kid

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this is my 15k ranger armor before and after. you tell me which one is which.



defenitly not worth the money. in game there is no way anyone would even tell that is white (or what claims to be white).

Holy Arch

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its uh...a little less silver

Mustache Mayhem

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anyone try 4 silver.. I stuck all my silver in storage then bought new one.. brought the silver back from the bank into inventory but on another slot- got 2 silver to mix like that

twicky_kid

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Holy Arch
its uh...a little less silver exactly

those pics are taken from the closest if can get with my own camera. in game most people have birds eye view and will never get close enough to you to even notice it. not worth the 18k it cost to make 5 of these dyes (silver keeps going up b/c of this).

Klmpee

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i bought the forum a while ago.. didnt like the turn out on the monk tattoos due to my skin color but on nec tattoos it looks nice and white..
the mix i got was.
Silver Silver YELLOW Silver...
may come outt he same as ysss but u never kno

Amok

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I tried this (yellow+silver+silver+silver) on my 15K Aeromancers, it's more of a tanned colour as someone here mentioned. Screenshots for those of you wanting to try before you buy:





treserious

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ive known this recipe for months now.
i also have a good recipe for pink. purple+yellow+silver
i have a really good recipe for baby blue(looks slighly turquoise in certain zones)
but im not willing to share it. i am however willing to make it for you at cost price(1400-1600 dependant on dye prices at the time).

heres a pic;

Venus

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Amok
I tried this (yellow+silver+silver+silver) on my 15K Aeromancers, it's more of a tanned colour as someone here mentioned. Screenshots for those of you wanting to try before you buy:





That is such a pretty color, I love how it goes with the blonde hair! I am getting rid of my black color on 15k aero for that, awsome

Hyper Fire

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cool THNX FOR THE FORMULA!