I've been playing for 3 months or so. At the beginning i didnt think that money was really a big issue as i had nothing to spend it on, but as you progress further, how are you meant to make money?
By "getting lucky" and finding a really rare item? (how many times /100 kills?)
By farming lots? (surely not, this has been nerfed on a worldwide scale)
By selling and buying? (does Anet really expect us to spend our time doing this?)
By playing the game? (this proves to be distinguishedly unsuccessful)
By eBay? (please vist *lame-e-oh*) (EDIT: on second thoughts, don't, its pr0n i just discovered)
how can we make money without spending our lives on this game?
Sorry if you disagree but i think that there arent enough ways to get money, and a good amount of it.
*Edit by Dral - removed link for the reasons stated by the author of this post*
Just how ARE you supposed to make money?
Ventius Hozza
Nikki Moonlight
to be honest..its either gonna be getting lucky..or by buying low, selling high
knives
Usually good items come from chests, and you do chest runs, gambling that you get a good item. Then its luck that either you get one with good mods, or one without. Then you sit there and sell it.
Ventius Hozza
I see chest runs are very profitable after doing them, but is this the way that a player is SUPPOSED to make money? Its like farming although what you must avoid are the monsters instead of killing them.
Melkor of ZoSo
I agree... How does ANet expect us to get money enough to pay for things they price rediculously high?
I pwnd U
thats a good question how are we suppose to make money? if it was buy low sell high people wouldnt like it because it would be too much like the stock market(ugh) so realy i have no idea maybe anet has an idea.
Numa Pompilius
How much money are you looking to make?
If you want enough to get you by in PvE, with the best Draknors armor and decent weapons, then you'll easily get the 20K you need for the armor just by playing, and you'll find perfectly good weapons (greens & collectors). All you need to do is pick up loot and turn it in at the merchant and you'll never be short.
If you want 1000 plat for bragging rights or absolutely NEED that perfect gold max rare skin or want to go for FoW armor, then you need to either speculate or farm rare items/max upgrades/shards/ectoplasm to sell to other players.
If you want enough to get you by in PvE, with the best Draknors armor and decent weapons, then you'll easily get the 20K you need for the armor just by playing, and you'll find perfectly good weapons (greens & collectors). All you need to do is pick up loot and turn it in at the merchant and you'll never be short.
If you want 1000 plat for bragging rights or absolutely NEED that perfect gold max rare skin or want to go for FoW armor, then you need to either speculate or farm rare items/max upgrades/shards/ectoplasm to sell to other players.
Lady Cream
- farm 100k / hour months ago (now nerfed)
- abuse new players (buy low, sell high)
- be there the day they reseted prices, and buy 1000 ectos for 200k. (nerfed)
- farm underworld (nerfed)
- run players (more and more nerfed)
- buy on ebay (sadly the only realistic honest way to get fissure armor)
so : you play since the beginning and you made money, or you're new and say thanks to arena net
- abuse new players (buy low, sell high)
- be there the day they reseted prices, and buy 1000 ectos for 200k. (nerfed)
- farm underworld (nerfed)
- run players (more and more nerfed)
- buy on ebay (sadly the only realistic honest way to get fissure armor)
so : you play since the beginning and you made money, or you're new and say thanks to arena net
Mercenary662
i used to run to and from different places...except now te prices are cut in half, or even free, so now i can make as much money as i used to from running, ive been doing alot of UW runs in 4 man trapping groups and 0 ecto drops in them all....and im a ranger so farmingisnt as easy as it is for a 55 monk....
Ventius Hozza
55hp monk is not easy either now... great job.
in terms of how much money, id at least like enough money to never be at 0 gold again.
lady cream speaks the truth
in terms of how much money, id at least like enough money to never be at 0 gold again.
lady cream speaks the truth
Mercenary662
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55hp monk is not easy either now... great job.
in terms of how much money, id at least like enough money to never be at 0 gold again. lady cream speaks the truth |
Sum1
the mission that brings you to circle of fire-very good farming-least i got was 1k love it there every so often i go back and do the mission.thats my favorite farming sofar.
.probably be raplaced by UW maybe not...i think 1 k is lots-its either it is lots or im just very poor ;(
darkdragon99
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- farm 100k / hour months ago (now nerfed)
- abuse new players (buy low, sell high) - be there the day they reseted prices, and buy 1000 ectos for 200k. (nerfed) - farm underworld (nerfed) - run players (more and more nerfed) - buy on ebay (sadly the only realistic honest way to get fissure armor) so : you play since the beginning and you made money, or you're new and say thanks to arena net |
=HT=Ingram
I'll be very honest. Right now making money is no easy task. If you are not already rich your stuck at farming at some really specific locations only and dependant on the demand for some specific items to sell upon finding.
The only other piece of advice I can offer is try to refocus your gaming goal. ask yourself why you want something. its it really worth it just for one item you may or may not use? is there a cheaper or free alternative to the most expensive items in the game that will work just as well until you can either afford to buy one or find it yourself? In most cases a normal player will be able to answer at least one of these as yes. When that is the case you soon learn that all the prices and items in the game are essentially worthless. And all that is driving this ridiculous economy is a unrealistic trading system, that is curved on the extensive greed of other players for the uber items. However the real players of the game soon learn it is not about the goodies you have but what you can do with what you already have or can get from more legitimate sources. Once you come to this truth, gold is not that big a deal. sure it makes life easier, but when doesn't it? However any weapon in the game can have a collector or pickup item equivalent that may not be "PERFECT" but are equally as good to have in a battle. And in the long run if you get rid of it later its not great loss either...
Just think about it some before worrying about some multi thousands of gold item. typically its not that big a deal anyway. that's the way the game is designed. Its about playing the game, not about acquiring goodies....
good luck
ingy...
The only other piece of advice I can offer is try to refocus your gaming goal. ask yourself why you want something. its it really worth it just for one item you may or may not use? is there a cheaper or free alternative to the most expensive items in the game that will work just as well until you can either afford to buy one or find it yourself? In most cases a normal player will be able to answer at least one of these as yes. When that is the case you soon learn that all the prices and items in the game are essentially worthless. And all that is driving this ridiculous economy is a unrealistic trading system, that is curved on the extensive greed of other players for the uber items. However the real players of the game soon learn it is not about the goodies you have but what you can do with what you already have or can get from more legitimate sources. Once you come to this truth, gold is not that big a deal. sure it makes life easier, but when doesn't it? However any weapon in the game can have a collector or pickup item equivalent that may not be "PERFECT" but are equally as good to have in a battle. And in the long run if you get rid of it later its not great loss either...
Just think about it some before worrying about some multi thousands of gold item. typically its not that big a deal anyway. that's the way the game is designed. Its about playing the game, not about acquiring goodies....
good luck
ingy...
Ventius Hozza
seems like the nerf bat "fell" onto the GW money system
and its not like i'm poor or anything, but this whole thought about money just came to me.
what are we doing to deserve all of the best ways to get money get destroyed?
probably not paying monthly fees...
and its not like i'm poor or anything, but this whole thought about money just came to me.
what are we doing to deserve all of the best ways to get money get destroyed?
probably not paying monthly fees...
Mahanaxar
Good luck buying FoW armor for new players.
Farming is still possible, but is awfully long and boring, and the most profitable places are utterly nerfed.
Running people is a possibility, but there are too many runners, and there is always the risk to be scammed.
You can farm high level chests or hunt greens in sorrow's furnace.
So, big money is no more a reward for dedication and perseverance, but for pure luck.
Oh, and you can hope for random retarded moves like making HoD swords no more available.
Farming is still possible, but is awfully long and boring, and the most profitable places are utterly nerfed.
Running people is a possibility, but there are too many runners, and there is always the risk to be scammed.
You can farm high level chests or hunt greens in sorrow's furnace.
So, big money is no more a reward for dedication and perseverance, but for pure luck.
Oh, and you can hope for random retarded moves like making HoD swords no more available.
Banebow
It has been pointed out before that ANet seems to be doing it's best to keep players poor. As solo farming gets more and more difficult, and as global drop rates fall, earning money becomes a pure chance thing, were you have to depend on getting a rare drop and finding someone who farmed a lot around release to buy it.
The argument is, of course, you don't need the expensive stuff. That is true, droknar's forge armor and a collectors sword work just as well as obsidian armor and a gold fellblade. One does wonder, however, why these items are in the game if ANet will not provide efficient means of getting them? Shall we all just rely on luck? Were these items ment solely for the players who farmed within the first 2 months of release?
The argument is, of course, you don't need the expensive stuff. That is true, droknar's forge armor and a collectors sword work just as well as obsidian armor and a gold fellblade. One does wonder, however, why these items are in the game if ANet will not provide efficient means of getting them? Shall we all just rely on luck? Were these items ment solely for the players who farmed within the first 2 months of release?
Dax
You need money in this game? I've just been playing I've never had a problem.
Malafis The Great is IGN
well personally i have 200k and 4 pieces of fissure and droks etc. etc. i have a really good farming build if u want it u can just pm me ingame and we can work something out. This build actually works very well
Loviatar
i am saving my gold for what is in chapter 2.in the meantime it is Drok armor and collectors weapons
would i like everybody bowing to me in my godley armor with the unique weapon only a few people can see only when you are out of town?
sure would but am i willing to pay the price for it?
NO WAY
so i play for the fun of it when i feel like it.
i also give away most of the imperfect golds/purples i find as lower level peeps seem to get a kick out of them.
one thank you is better than a few k in my opinion
One and Two
Need money for ebay? Get a job! Or be like my friends. Hustle =/
Lady Cream
Suppose you're a dedicated PvE player :
- of course, droknar armor and collector weapons will do the job. It's like in any rpg, like final fantasy or diablo. You can finish the game without any problem with commons weapons/items. But fissure armor is a goal for any pve player I think. Once you finished the game, what more to do?
- the economy, "lol", ectos stayed at their ~9k price... and now, spiked... like before the patch/reset. Ladies and gentlemen, don't go at school, don't go at work, one day, you'll see ectos at 300 gold at the merchant, it will be your turn to be rich
ridiculous, isn't it?
- I suggest also to buy and collect each item from collectors/crafters. The day they will be removed (hod sword...), you'll sell them for like 300k each !
ridiculous, isn't it?
- stop the pve joke and go pvp, oh wait, no, you're probably not rank6, get a warrior/ranger, a pet, an axe, a bow, send pets with bows, once they die, start shouting "i will avenge youuuuuuu!!!" and farm faction till rank6. (or even rank9, this is not a problem)
ridiculous, isn't it?
- also, try to find old movies of flesh golem farm, in perdition rock. it also works with griffons, ... and think about all this money you missed.
ridiculous, isn't it?
- go in trade forums, and see the peoples who made their fortune by buying a +15^50 fellblade req 8 for 2k to a newb, and reselling it 1000k, then re buying low and reselling high etc...
ridiculous, isn't it?
- that should be enough, to see that if you recently bought the game, you bought a totally different game that it used to be.
- of course, droknar armor and collector weapons will do the job. It's like in any rpg, like final fantasy or diablo. You can finish the game without any problem with commons weapons/items. But fissure armor is a goal for any pve player I think. Once you finished the game, what more to do?
- the economy, "lol", ectos stayed at their ~9k price... and now, spiked... like before the patch/reset. Ladies and gentlemen, don't go at school, don't go at work, one day, you'll see ectos at 300 gold at the merchant, it will be your turn to be rich
ridiculous, isn't it?
- I suggest also to buy and collect each item from collectors/crafters. The day they will be removed (hod sword...), you'll sell them for like 300k each !
ridiculous, isn't it?
- stop the pve joke and go pvp, oh wait, no, you're probably not rank6, get a warrior/ranger, a pet, an axe, a bow, send pets with bows, once they die, start shouting "i will avenge youuuuuuu!!!" and farm faction till rank6. (or even rank9, this is not a problem)
ridiculous, isn't it?
- also, try to find old movies of flesh golem farm, in perdition rock. it also works with griffons, ... and think about all this money you missed.
ridiculous, isn't it?
- go in trade forums, and see the peoples who made their fortune by buying a +15^50 fellblade req 8 for 2k to a newb, and reselling it 1000k, then re buying low and reselling high etc...
ridiculous, isn't it?
- that should be enough, to see that if you recently bought the game, you bought a totally different game that it used to be.
Dax
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i am saving my gold for what is in chapter 2.in the meantime it is Drok armor and collectors weapons would i like everybody bowing to me in my godley armor with the unique weapon only a few people can see only when you are out of town? sure would but am i willing to pay the price for it? NO WAY so i play for the fun of it when i feel like it. i also give away most of the imperfect golds/purples i find as lower level peeps seem to get a kick out of them. one thank you is better than a few k in my opinion |
Cjlr
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Technically do you need to actually earn godly armor?
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Zeru
The hall of heroes is an excellent place to make a steady income if you can put up with the degenerate and random environment of tombs. With all the IWAY and that all the good teams flocked to gvg it's really not difficult anymore either. With sigils selling at 30k? (last time I checked, idk now) and an even splitting of the loot 3 holds alone is a good 33k. Even if you can't consistently work there it's a good goal to find likeminded folks and play with them often. Your victories will come sooner than you think, IWAY or not.
Trading is always a solid way if you are patient enough. It's not as good before the rune trader was put in but it's still a steady way for money if you can shift through the spam and dumb people.
Trading is always a solid way if you are patient enough. It's not as good before the rune trader was put in but it's still a steady way for money if you can shift through the spam and dumb people.
Markaedw
Interesting, the only option left, buy from an unknow source on ebay. A clear violation of the "EULA". How hard is it to go to ebay, find the account of the online seller and cancel their account.
I know a little about servers, they are expensive to maintain, I cant imagine that my $50 will be enough to maintian my life time share of the server space.
So maybe GW has other ways of making money, and don't like the competition.
I know a little about servers, they are expensive to maintain, I cant imagine that my $50 will be enough to maintian my life time share of the server space.
So maybe GW has other ways of making money, and don't like the competition.
Nawn Centz
I still farm but, when I could a kill all the griffons at once it was.. fun. Now with the AoE nerf thingy where monsters run away from most AoE.. farming is hella boring. It's hack and slash for dmg and for a monk (or warrior), using shield of judgement and standing there can be INCREDIBLY boring and dreadful. Like Loviatar said, I'm holding onto my previously earned money and waiting for chapter 2. I'm sure there will be a few farmable areas with more skills like shield of judge, and massive groups to farm. Prolly real good drops too. If you want money seriously now, I prefer buy/sell, begging (heh..), scamming (I hope not though), soloing thirsty river mission (great money), or just going to one of the top spots in the game and coming up with a build to farm it.
Akhilleus
one word: trading.
in the past 2 months ive been tutoring some of my guild members on how to make money via trading, and the ones who listen and are willing&able to put in the time, have made a comfortable living for themselves.
one of my officers has gotten himself 15k for all of his characters, and a few hundred thousand; nothing compared to be, but by large&far no small accomplishment.
another got his account broken into and lost about 150k, and hes still standing finiancially.
the potential for profit from trading is unparalleled compared to any other means, but the potential for loss is there, and it is ridiculously time-consuming in the begining (the mroe you trade the easier it gets).
in the past 2 months ive been tutoring some of my guild members on how to make money via trading, and the ones who listen and are willing&able to put in the time, have made a comfortable living for themselves.
one of my officers has gotten himself 15k for all of his characters, and a few hundred thousand; nothing compared to be, but by large&far no small accomplishment.
another got his account broken into and lost about 150k, and hes still standing finiancially.
the potential for profit from trading is unparalleled compared to any other means, but the potential for loss is there, and it is ridiculously time-consuming in the begining (the mroe you trade the easier it gets).
KANE OG
Play the frickin game, you'll make money. Seems simple enough. I was able to bring my first char up doing all missions and quests, and was able to afford 15k armor when I wanted it. Quit ur bitchin.
widds2v
Things beyond the basics shouldn't be handed out. ANET added pretty good items to collectors, and just by playing the game you can be decked out in the same 80af, max dmg 15>50 weapon as everyone else... it'll just look "plain" and not a unique look. Minimal farming will net droks armor easily. When my W/Mo was like lvl 14 farming griffons outside rankor I'd get ~500g in 10min or so per run.. and thats just selling to merchant. Play "merchant" in LA or Ascalon dist 1 every now and then (mixing things up in the game really make it more bearable... pvp -> pve mission -> pve farming -> playing merchant) and buy low sell high. Hang out on the forums, grab good deals and resell. I've built up a list of contacts ingame (farmers for the most part) that sell me in bulk cheap and I resell it slowly for profit.
Lots of ways to make money, its just not handed out for free.
Lots of ways to make money, its just not handed out for free.
Mahanaxar
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Play the frickin game, you'll make money. Seems simple enough. I was able to bring my first char up doing all missions and quests, and was able to afford 15k armor when I wanted it. Quit ur bitchin.
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Saborath Gilgalad
With my main charecter i was able to make alittle over 100k by mostly selling common crafting supplies. I sold a few weapon but nothing over 18k. now with my mm i do alot of farming and i get alot of money that way but still i can get more money selling crafting materials and running.
Dax
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Not at all.
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Play the frickin game, you'll make money. Seems simple enough. I was able to bring my first char up doing all missions and quests, and was able to afford 15k armor when I wanted it. Quit ur bitchin.
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People here are talking about a serious amount of money
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Really this game isn't too complicated, it's not meant to be a 'he who has the most gold wins' game. Yes I know that everyone's on their 500th character and doesn't want to 'bother' with actually playing.... geez what am I saying we all want the best character money can buy.
Maxiemonster
Gold isn't needed, so just don't make money.
Mahanaxar
FoW armor, cool looking weapons, dyes, runes.
Of course, we don't *need* these things, but some people want them.
These items don't provide any kind of advantage, but are the only objective for pve-players when they complete the game with 4 chars.
And they dont hurt anyone farming/trading for these items.
Open your mind, there isn't PvP only...
Of course, we don't *need* these things, but some people want them.
These items don't provide any kind of advantage, but are the only objective for pve-players when they complete the game with 4 chars.
And they dont hurt anyone farming/trading for these items.
Open your mind, there isn't PvP only...
Maxiemonster
It's the same as in real life. If you want that 500 thousand dollar sports car just to look cool with your friends, so be it. But you're fine in a crappy car too, but indeed, your friends wouldn't be so impressed.
Though, what I think is, people care about this too much. Actually, I'm one of the fewer ones (I'm one of the fewer ones with brains too btw), that has more respect for people with 1.5K Droknar's Forge armor which are doing a great job, then people with FoW Armor doing the same job. It's about the quality of the player, not about the quality of his impressiveness.
Though, what I think is, people care about this too much. Actually, I'm one of the fewer ones (I'm one of the fewer ones with brains too btw), that has more respect for people with 1.5K Droknar's Forge armor which are doing a great job, then people with FoW Armor doing the same job. It's about the quality of the player, not about the quality of his impressiveness.
Mahanaxar
People with FoW armor wich are doing a great job are even better, don't you think?
I'm not saying that FoW armor should be cheap. I'm saying that conditions to buy it should remain steady over time.
Now you need 2 millions to buy it (more for warriors), and it's simply unfair.
I'm not saying that FoW armor should be cheap. I'm saying that conditions to buy it should remain steady over time.
Now you need 2 millions to buy it (more for warriors), and it's simply unfair.
twicky_kid
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It's the same as in real life. If you want that 500 thousand dollar sports car just to look cool with your friends, so be it. But you're fine in a crappy car too, but indeed, your friends wouldn't be so impressed.
Though, what I think is, people care about this too much. Actually, I'm one of the fewer ones (I'm one of the fewer ones with brains too btw), that has more respect for people with 1.5K Droknar's Forge armor which are doing a great job, then people with FoW Armor doing the same job. It's about the quality of the player, not about the quality of his impressiveness. |
america is just about the only place that you find this mentality. we are too "brand" only thinking. since our pop culture is spilling over to the rest of the world is it becoming more and more in other countries.
so do you pay $80 for that tommy t-shirt or go to wal-mart for a pack of 5 for $10? only difference is its got the tommy name on it so which is better?
the diamond industry is what really kills me. they only became "rare" in the 20s when a commercial said they were. you never heard of any talk of the rich empires ever having diamonds pre 1850. btw, they aren't even "rare" they can be created.
Maxiemonster
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People with FoW armor wich are doing a great job are even better, don't you think?
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jesh
It's not only the mentality that was previously stated, there's another issue. And that issue is that everybody looks EXACTLY THE SAME. Some people don't like walking into their clone every day, and I'm one of them. I do everything I can so my characters can look pretty and not in the same was as Joe and Josephine. Granted, I hate farming, so this is a long process for me.