Just how ARE you supposed to make money?

Maxiemonster

Maxiemonster

There is no spoon.

Join Date: Jun 2005

Netherlands

Mo/

If you care about it, so be it, but if you want to look different, stop whining about how hard it is. If it wasn't hard, everyone would look the same anyway, since then everyone would get a FoW armor.

Kalt

Kalt

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

Yeah, play the game, do all the missions and quest and maybe at the end of the week you'll make 5k if you're lucky.

Seriously, once you beated the game more than once, then you pretty much bored of all the missions and quest, so most people will try to do something else like saving money for stuff like FoW, 15k armor and unique weapons.

You can say go trade, but it takes hours when you finaly find someone who wants to buy something from you. It took me some time to sell my Stinger for 10k. Mostly because most who are players in the game don't even have 10k. hell I bet most don't even have 5k.

You can go to UW or FoW, but after a while you get truly bored of it, and still I've been to UW a lot of times and the drops aren't much worth either besides some crappy dark remains, weapons that aren't even max damage and if you're lucky you might get a ecto.

So there is no real way in the game to get rich without being behind the keyboard the whole day.

Maybe someone should tell Anet that some people still need to go to school and work.

twicky_kid

twicky_kid

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quite Vulgar [FUN]

Quote:
Originally Posted by jesh
It's not only the mentality that was previously stated, there's another issue. And that issue is that everybody looks EXACTLY THE SAME. Some people don't like walking into their clone every day, and I'm one of them. I do everything I can so my characters can look pretty and not in the same was as Joe and Josephine. Granted, I hate farming, so this is a long process for me.
you can look good in your stylish armor while my teams name with FLAWLESS VICTORY is right below it. it doesn't make you a better player. most people that have FoW armor played the exact same build for months on ends and nothing else. not being able to adapt is not something or someone i want on my team.

twicky_kid

twicky_kid

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quite Vulgar [FUN]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kalt
So there is no real way in the game to get rich without being behind the keyboard the whole day.

Maybe someone should tell Anet that some people still need to go to school and work.
not exactly true. even with the current econemy i can make 100+ in a few hours.

think outside the box of the normal money makers. the more people that use the same method create competition for you. competition reduces prices and you make less. use a method most are not and you make more.

Maxiemonster

Maxiemonster

There is no spoon.

Join Date: Jun 2005

Netherlands

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by twicky_kid
not exactly true. even with the current econemy i can make 100+ in a few hours.

think outside the box of the normal money makers. the more people that use the same method create competition for you. competition reduces prices and you make less. use a method most are not and you make more.
Those methods get harder to find each day though, every once in a while I come up with one, just to find out I'm not the only one. It's hard to be the only one with the method, when millions (millions right..?) of other people play the game.

jesh

jesh

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

San Diego, CA

Penguin Village

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by twicky_kid
you can look good in your stylish armor while my teams name with FLAWLESS VICTORY is right below it. it doesn't make you a better player. most people that have FoW armor played the exact same build for months on ends and nothing else. not being able to adapt is not something or someone i want on my team.
I seem to have missed the part where I was whining, or the part where I don't have any skill. To me it's rewarding to get the piece of armor I've been saving for, and I hate the way fissure armor looks. I wouldn't buy it if I was an ebayer.

Now next time I post, I'd appreciate it if you kept your crap behind your throat, instead of aimed at me on a message board.

Loch

Loch

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

How is FoW armor an endgame goal?

Sweet, you finally earned that expensive, wicked-looking armor by farming for hours on end.

Now what?

I'd rather do something replayable.

twicky_kid

twicky_kid

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quite Vulgar [FUN]

Quote:
Originally Posted by jesh
I seem to have missed the part where I was whining, or the part where I don't have any skill. To me it's rewarding to get the piece of armor I've been saving for, and I hate the way fissure armor looks. I wouldn't buy it if I was an ebayer.

Now next time I post, I'd appreciate it if you kept your crap behind your throat, instead of aimed at me on a message board.
obviously you missed the point of that so nvm. not going to fight with someone childish on a forum.

i know exactly what you mean Maxiemonster. i used to sell the 15% (enchanted) swords for about 1-1.5k each because of the ammount of w/mo in the game. about 2 weeks later about i saw them everywhere people selling them and killed my prices.

be creative and enjoy it while it last.

Dax

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Hrmm.... interesting viewpoints. I guess I feel that part of the game is not having things and what keeps me playing is what I have to look forward to. I know the latest MMO's have made strides to be more fullfilling in the early part of the game but the problem, IMO, is that people will just grab everything at once.

To me if I got end game armor right away...yes I would be bored.

I dunno just playing through, my coffers are full and I have more gold than I know what to do with. That's not to say I have alot...it's just that I'm not trying to buy anything I can't earn myself. I really wish there was more to the game than that, but before I get bored I wannna dovetail into chapter 2.

So I would say, just enjoy the game and don't worry about gold.... Hell you can be a level 10 (or less) and have pimpin items if ya want but good games are meant to be savord, not rushed.....but that's just my 2cents

PieXags

PieXags

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

The Infinite Representation Of Pie And Its Many Brilliances

Quote:
Originally Posted by twicky_kid
obviously you missed the point of that so nvm. not going to fight with someone childish on a forum.
Hahaheh. That made me laugh.

DeepFyre

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

maybe not everyone is supposed to be rich

....no way.....

lg5000

lg5000

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Australia

Hmm.. I still want fow armor for my warrior. In the meantime though, I have gotten my mesmer and my monk the clothing I like the looks of, Not all of it is 15k either, just whatever I thought looked best and the weapons to go with it. My warrior still has not got the full set of weapons I want, but damn close to it and with her, I'd prefer to find them myself.

As for making money.. damn.. farming is boring for me, I'd much prefer to play the actual game. Consequently, her wearing fow armor might never happen. So yeah, farming did help a lot in clothing and equipping 2 out of 3 chars, but I'm buggered if I know how to get 120 ecto without buying it.

KANE OG

KANE OG

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2005

Ogmios Graybeards

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mahanaxar
People here are talking about a serious amount of money
I'm over 200k, seems serious to me.

alexcave

alexcave

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

Dubai

Shameful Spirits

Mo/W

Has anyone noticed that there are more and more scammers in the game since the latest bout of nerfing.

I still farm griffons, uw and other areas and am not poor, but the making of farming more difficult has led to an increase in people attempting to make money out of scamming other players.

And if I see Red Apple, Yellow Apple or any other colour apple selling perfect items 24/7 I am going to go mad. It is easy for Anet to do something about scammers and obvious farming bot agents.....they just do not seem to react fast enough.

Ebay and scamming are being boosted by Anet's current actions, which is ruining an otherwise brilliant game.

HOXMAN

HOXMAN

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

TN, USA

Amber Order [AMBR]

E/Me

When i lost it all.. (0 gold to my name) i stuck to farming... GF and SF are where i usually go.. w/ my Ele/Me... Fire/Dom.. w/ 7 hench... i still get the job done and i try for greens when i can and last night i got a sup rune of prot.. sold at trader for 7.5k.. not bad for a few runs.. there's no way to get rich quick w/ out a little effort.. i still hope i might stumble upon some more rare items.. but if i don't.. that's alright.. half of the fun is the journey

Roza

Roza

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Amsterdam

The War Masters

R/W

I just wish Anet would put in that auction house, or put in some otherway of actually making a profit by selling items form chests etc. without having to stand around for ages, advertising and dealing with 'traders' (very few of them interested in buying anything for more than 25% of the price they expect to get by selling it off again). I end up selling any good items not near perfect to the merchants and giving the best stuff away to guildies.

I hate trading. I guess I should just give up on that 15K armour or go solo farming for hours and hours and hours...

Numa Pompilius

Numa Pompilius

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

At an Insit.. Intis... a house.

Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF]

W/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Banebow
It has been pointed out before that ANet seems to be doing it's best to keep players poor.
This is just so much bullshit. You're not going to be poor in this game. The people complaining about "being poor" are either blowing shitloads of cash on beer & chest keys, or trying to buy perfect gold weapons (which aren't any better than collectors or greens costing 1/20th as much).

You don't have to farm.

If you WANT to farm, you still can. Anyone who says farming is nerfed is ALSO full of bullshit. Even the classic farming spots like Gates of Kryta and the griffins outside Augury Rock still yield tons of gold & items.

But when these guys talk of farming, they mean "solo-farming the UW with a 55-monk" nothing else. And that's nerfed; now you'll either progress much more slowly or you'll need to be TWO farming.

The problem with farming now is that everyone already got nearly perfect gear & atleast 100K, so it's impossible to sell anything but gold perfect max items of prestige stuff. A purple max defender shield with 12 strength requirement? Hardly worth carrying home, because noone will buy it. THAT'S why farming isn't as profitable as it used to be.

bowwow

bowwow

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Holland

Hells Elite LEgions

W/R

i find quite a lot of decent golds and greens, but i just can't be arsed spamming them for 2 hours in LA.

Best would be something like a Auction House/Marketplace where you can just put ur items up for sale for a fixed price. Would def. make me a few 100k's more.

Roza

Roza

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Amsterdam

The War Masters

R/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius
This is just so much bullshit. You're not going to be poor in this game. The people complaining about "being poor" are either blowing shitloads of cash on beer & chest keys, or trying to buy perfect gold weapons.
I have a lot of skill points I would like to use for buying skills and I would like to buy 15K armour some day. I have never bought any dwarven ale. And I have bought some keys (which did make me a lot poorer, which is strange, when did treasure hunting become a gold sink?). And sometimes I spent gold inviting guests and new members for the guild I am in, or paying our way ito the UW. And I have farmed a bit (solo) in the usual places. I haven't bought any items in months. Still, I have about 15K. And I am sure that even if I had been more stingy, I would not have had 100K. You ARE going to be poor in this game.

Earning gold is a grind now. So, if I want to avoid the grind, I should stop wanting 15K armour and using my skill-points. I do find nice items from time to time. But trading is a grind too (and you are dealing with unpleasant people who only care about gold, outsmarting you and scamming, a lot of the time). An auction house would solve my gold problems, I think.

tenira

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

E/Me

thats so true... i get so fed up with trying to sell stuff my msging 'wts ...' all the time, its so time consuming and most of the time fruitless. tradng house would be good.

Numa Pompilius

Numa Pompilius

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

At an Insit.. Intis... a house.

Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF]

W/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Roza
I have a lot of skill points I would like to use for buying skills and I would like to buy 15K armour some day. --- items in months. Still, I have about 15K. And I am sure that even if I had been more stingy, I would not have had 100K. You ARE going to be poor in this game.
That's 15 skills you can buy right now.

Then just keep playing, and you'll make more money for the next skills you'll find. You already have the droknars armor, so you'll not need to spend another gold on armor until the game is over. You'll find the weapons you need for PvE while you play.

Want to play PvP? Make a PvP character and equip him with PvP gear for free. You'll quickly make enough faction to unlock the perfect gear & skills you need.

Don't buy chest keys. They're gold sinks. If you got gold to spare then they're a fun gamble, if you don't, then you shouldn't buy chest keys.

So how are you poor when you can afford what you need when you need?

It all boils down to those FoW armors and perfect gold items. Which are purely status symbols, nothing else. They get you no noticeable advantage in-game, neither in PvE nor PvP.

Quote:
An auction house would solve my gold problems, I think.
Possibly. What an auction house would definitely do is speed up the mudflation immensely, as absolutely everyone would have all green or perfect gold items in short order. It's already difficult to sell non-perfect gold items or "common" greens, with an auction house those would soon be as worthless as that max-armor purple strength 12 req defender shield already is.

Then farming would REALLY be nerfed for everyone except the bots and the UW monks.

Amn_En_Tarsath

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

It allways takes me by surprise to see morons go wild as soon as someone says "making money is too hard". Shove that "bullshit" up your ass, all you folks are doing is sowing flamebaits to get some attention.

"So you don't need that Armor bla bla...". Who cares? Why is it in the game then? For the dedicated players? Impossible to reach? Ahahaa? THAT is Bullshit. A.Net obviously just underestimated Economy (Want a proof? Take a look back at the Update Notes, just look at all those Trade and Farming focussed updates). Things like these are in the game and they are meant to be possessed.

About the next argument "Work for it!". Okay mister "I have lost contact to the real world" what is your problem with the word "Game". What is so hard to understand that as soon as something turns into work in a game it is going awfully wrong? You are playing a game for fun and not for getting frustrated about work. If that pleases you, so be it... but don't expect everyone to be the same. And don't try to force your "Grinding Wonder Land" unto others.

Numa Pompilius

Numa Pompilius

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

At an Insit.. Intis... a house.

Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF]

W/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Amn_En_Tarsath
"So you don't need that Armor bla bla...". Who cares? Why is it in the game then?
As a reward to keep people playing PvE after they've completed the campaign but before chapter 2 has been released.
You're aware it's got the exact same stats as the droknars armors, right? That the ONLY difference is price and looks?
Quote:
About the next argument "Work for it!". Okay mister "I have lost contact to the real world" what is your problem with the word "Game". What is so hard to understand that as soon as something turns into work in a game it is going awfully wrong?
Actually what I said was 'play for it'. You want that FoW armor, go explore the underground. By the time you've fully explored the FoW and the UW, you can probably afford it. Can't be assed? Well, I guess the FoW armor wasn't for you then.

I'm amazed people are actually complaining about that it requires effort to get the most expensive gear in the game - which isn't even any better than the gear they've already got. Or whine about that they can't afford gold perfect items of status skins, only equally good greens & collectors items.

Medion

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Netherlands

Ok, lets say Anet would give everyone 1000K for free.

What would happen??
Everyone would have FoW armour!!!!!

All you guys are talking about is that you can't have FoW armour. So should Anet give it away?
Ofcourse not, because at that moment, about 99% of the people who want FoW armour, won't "need" it anymore.

If you want it to be made easy, what then is so special about FoW armour?

The looks?

The looks aren't any better, just because they are rare doesn't mean they look better.

Kuptain

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2005

The funny thing is if Anet decided to make obtaining these items easier, in a few weeks time everyone would be complaining about their armor/weapon not being special anymore or pve being boring because everyone now has the special armor and weapons and there is nothing else left to do.

I'm really getting irritated at the amount of claiming that Guild Wars has too much grind. In fact Guild Wars has the least amount of "grind" in an online game that I know of. Seriously, complain about "grind" in Guild Wars all you want to but it is no where close to as much grind required to stay competitive in Eve-Online where many of its players joke about it being a second job.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Amn_En_Tarsath
It You are playing a game for fun and not for getting frustrated about work. If that pleases you, so be it... but don't expect everyone to be the same. And don't try to force your "Grinding Wonder Land" unto others.
if this game is work for you get something else.

THERE ARE 3 LEVELS OF STATUS ARMOR IN THE GAME TO FIT MOST PEOPLES PLAYING TIME.

DROK STATUS ARMOR FOR CASUAL

15K FOR THE MIDDLE LITE NON CASUAL PLAYER

FOW FOR THE LONG TERM HARDCORE PLAYER.

SOME STATUS ITEM FOR EACH CLASS OF PLAYER

chapter 2 will have additional ways to make your character less os a clone.

wait for it and deal with it now by leaving or simply taking a break before chapter 2.

sheesh


EDIT

I FORGOT

COLLECTORS ARMOR FOR THE PERSON WITH NO GOLD AT ALL (SOME PEOPLE PREFER THE COLLECTOR LOOK)

widds2v

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2005

Japan

House Palomides

W/Mo

"FoW armor, cool looking weapons, dyes, runes.
Of course, we don't *need* these things, but some people want them."

So if you wan't them, work for them. I for one thing FoW armor looks ugly on most classes, which is why my war will stay in 15k plate instead of getting FoW, my choice on not having to have the most expensive just saved me millions.

Fact: collector armor/weapons will get you just as far in the game as everyother item. if you use them as they're intended to be used (ie, killing for the items needed)... you can be fully equipped in 80af, max dmg 15>50, etc items for absolutly no cost at all... leaving the money you make for skills.

The above should describe like 60% of GW population. The next 20% or so limited by droks armor, lower end "less than perfect" gold items (aka the smart people, who look at a 29hp item and a 30hp item and realize the 1hp is not worth 400k). Then you have 15% in 15k armor. Those who have extra $$ and wan't to stick out and show people they have $$. These are the people that usually use higher-end greens (rago staff, razorstone, brohns, etc) or high-end golds (perfect longsword). Finally you have 5% of GW... and this is what too many people are expecting to be handed to them for free. FoW armor, the status symbol of wealth. These people dont just use perfect golds, they use perfect rare weapons like that 1.5mil perfect crystal sword, or anyother rare skin/drop weapon.

I think the problem with GW is that it attracts too many different kinds of people and ANET cant cater to them all. Vetern MMOG players know there are tiers of players, and most MMOG players accept that they'll probably never be in a "FOH/Triton/AL/TR" tier (for those former EQ ppl), but they continue playing and have fun. GW, being free, draws crowds from every type of game where the difference between being on the bottom and being on the top isn't that big.

Anyways, you want the best, work for it. You don't want to work for it, you can still have the best, it just doesnt look different.

Lady Cream

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2005

W/Mo

suppose that Mr.Everybody buy the game today.

Tell me **honestly** that he's able to get fow armor ?

"Hey, I'd like to get fow armor!
- hahahah, you're a new player, www.ebay.com"

Compared to this



He "still" have like 500 ectos. Considering he had fow armor, +5 sword ...

It's easy to rich players to tell to poor ones that they don't "need" fow armor and stuff.


Gaile, a word on this "reset" ?
Probably not I guess.

Orbberius

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

ANet should just implement a form of this idea.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady Cream
suppose that Mr.Everybody buy the game today.
do you really think after chapter 2 comes out the very few who got the price reset bonus will make a drop in the pool of players?

people will know that for the most part FOW armor is not in their budget.

possibly even all the super high end new stuff in chapter 2 for that matter.

if you only play to get the very best to lord (used on purpose) it over other players and your game is actually *LOOK AT ME AND SEE HOW SUPERIOR I AM* rather than playing GUILDWARS as a game get something else.

as stated there are 3 levels of *STATUS* armor to fit different playing styles.

not everybody gets the 500k exoticar

some have a corvett

some have a minivan

deal with it as they arent going to start giving out ectos at 50g each so everybody can get the FOW and complain that all the *COMMON* people have it

Network

Network

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Loviatar
do you really think after chapter 2 comes out the very few who got the price reset bonus will make a drop in the pool of players?

people will know that for the most part FOW armor is not in their budget.

possibly even all the super high end new stuff in chapter 2 for that matter.

if you only play to get the very best to lord (used on purpose) it over other players and your game is actually *LOOK AT ME AND SEE HOW SUPERIOR I AM* rather than playing GUILDWARS as a game get something else.

as stated there are 3 levels of *STATUS* armor to fit different playing styles.

not everybody gets the 500k exoticar

some have a corvett

some have a minivan

deal with it as they arent going to start giving out ectos at 50g each so everybody can get the FOW and complain that all the *COMMON* people have it
I have the exoticar and a corvett

Mahanaxar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Italy

Lupus Et Agnus

R/

Someone here is getting really annoying.
Nobody says that FoW armor should be acquirable in a week.
But some months ago 1000k was enough to buy it, now we need almost 2000k (not mentioning that moronic price-reset...just look at Lady Cream's screen).

I *want* a hard PvE objective, but now it's not hard, but insane, and not fair at all.

Some Anet's moves are just incoherent. We have Gaile blabbering on game economy's balance, and we have to fear random updates with incomprehensible moves like price resets or items removal (if HoD sword is so overpowered, remove it completely, don't make it simply unavailable...people are making 300k from a single sword...smart way to balance things ).


Heck, I wish my english wasn't so crap, to answer appropriately to some provocations.

Venus

Venus

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Boston, MA

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady Cream

It's easy to rich players to tell to poor ones that they don't "need" fow armor and stuff.
Thats very true. I hate it when really rich people with FoW lecture the poor people and say that, its so hypocritical. They just want to be unique (i can respect that though).

Its hard for me to form an opinion about richness to poorness because I can see both sides of the argument

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mahanaxar

Heck, I wish my english wasn't so crap, to answer appropriately to some provocations.
in all honesty there are probably 50 percent of the teachers here in the US today that would be happy to get a paper in as good english.

it is not crap.

aron searle

aron searle

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius
Actually what I said was 'play for it'. You want that FoW armor, go explore the underground. By the time you've fully explored the FoW and the UW, you can probably afford it. Can't be assed? Well, I guess the FoW armor wasn't for you then.
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Sorry but thats not true, most people would be unable to afford 1 peice. Unless they were extremely lucky and got some perfect item to sell.

Xenrath

Xenrath

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/Me

I agree with the other posts. Droknar's armour is the best you can get stats-wise, and desert collector items are pretty much perfect stats too (plus modifiable). You don't need hundreds of thousands for those. Beyond that, almost everything else is vanity...

Oh the minivan/corvette/exoticar comparison is misleading. All the armours have identical performance, again it's just the bodywork that's different. Edit: yes my chars do all have 15k armour, but only after I got the droknar/desert stuff first and had nothing else to spend it on.

Tiq

Tiq

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

Kryptonian Krew

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Amn_En_Tarsath
About the next argument "Work for it!". Okay mister "I have lost contact to the real world" what is your problem with the word "Game". What is so hard to understand that as soon as something turns into work in a game it is going awfully wrong? You are playing a game for fun and not for getting frustrated about work. If that pleases you, so be it... but don't expect everyone to be the same.

MMO's take work or "dedication", most people accept this. What is so hard to understand that the best items in the game should be challenging to get, rather than being handed to you?

Your playing a game for fun, no doubt, and if you get the best items easily, it stops being fun alot quicker, because you no longer have anything to wo-- umm......dedicate yourself to.

Ray

Ray

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Denmark

Win in the Hall of Heroes, get sigils, sell sigils, get good weapons, sell good weapons :l

Sagius Truthbarron

Sagius Truthbarron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Animal Factory [ZoO]

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by OP
By playing the game?
This is how you are supposed to make money. No, I'm not talking "BIG BUX" I'm talking about the way you buy and afford Droknar's Forge armor and materials for a weapon or custome weapon.

This game is not about getting 15k or Fissure armor. That is only there for hardcore PvE'rs in the UW, FoW, and Sorrow's Furnace. 15k/Fissure armor is shear vanity and there is no point to having it, thus only a fool would think that they need it. A fool thinks he needs it to be socially esteemed.

You pickup dropped money, you pickup everything in missions and quest asif you are a can collector and by the time you need to use it for anything, you will have about 14k or more.

You need to just pick things up, fill your bags, and then sell them to the merchant.

This is how you make money for the things you need and is all that is important."Distinguishedly unsuccessful" for those who want to be distinguished to themselves only.

Teufel Eldritch

Teufel Eldritch

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Shadar Logoth

The Legendary Majestic 12

N/

If you want to make tons of money...run ppl. That is the most profitible means of making money in GW.

Regarding FoW armor...it is no longer rare. I see a lot & I mean A LOT of ppl wearing it nowadays.

Funny how so many ppl buy the expensive armors but don't even know about the cheaper ones. The other day I was on my FemMez, just kickin it when some another Mez came along & saw that I was wearing plain ol' Stylish armor. However because it is a "normal" armor this person didn't recognise it. They asked me what type of armor it was, where I got it & how much.....it's nothing but plain armor! But yet this person thought it was "leet" armor because of the fact they always see 15k & FoW armor everywhere. "Rare" armors ARE NOT rare.

If you think FoW armor is rare then do me a favor...go sit in ToA for a hour or 2 & keep track of all the FoW armor you see. Goto Tombs & do the same.