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I'm glad that people agree with me on this.
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Just how ARE you supposed to make money?
Arturo02
Mekanic
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To me, I am not done with a game until I have beaten it...solo. That's without henchmen (unless it's absolutely, positively impossible to do).
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why in Dwayna's name do you think you should be able to solo some of the highest level areas to farm? How realistic is that expectation? I mean, if you could in the past -- and if that wasn't intended or balanced -- does that mean it should be left for players to do so indefinitely? No criticism for farmers, not at all. But in a game built on strategy and teamwork, like Guild Wars, it simply doesn't seem to me that it's reasonable to ask to play the highest end content as a solo player.
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eom
I've been playing one day a week for about a month.
my first and only character is now around 13th level and has just recently done a few things in yak's bend.
ok, so I'm relatively new to gw, and have probably made about 10k so far.
how the hell much money do you need to make to enjoy this game??????
get bean farmer extreme if that's what you're into.
my first and only character is now around 13th level and has just recently done a few things in yak's bend.
ok, so I'm relatively new to gw, and have probably made about 10k so far.
how the hell much money do you need to make to enjoy this game??????
get bean farmer extreme if that's what you're into.
ivanbrooking
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Originally Posted by eom
I've been playing one day a week for about a month.
my first and only character is now around 13th level and has just recently done a few things in yak's bend. ok, so I'm relatively new to gw, and have probably made about 10k so far. how the hell much money do you need to make to enjoy this game?????? get bean farmer extreme if that's what you're into. |
Keep playing though, it's more fun staying alive with sub-great armour. Also looks crazy wearing plate boots and leggings with gladiator cuirass and helm. Lets hope salvaging those runes doesn't wear out though otherwise I'm in deep deep trouble!!!
Generally though you make enough cash playing through to kit up ok, unless you want to buy the really pricey stuff, or start kitting out lower level characters with cools stuff - which is where some of my cash has gone too.
Currently sitting with about 2k and nearly all plate armour. Then need to do infusion run again ---sigh
ah well such is GW.
Banebow
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I've been playing one day a week for about a month.
my first and only character is now around 13th level and has just recently done a few things in yak's bend. ok, so I'm relatively new to gw, and have probably made about 10k so far. how the hell much money do you need to make to enjoy this game?????? get bean farmer extreme if that's what you're into. |
In retrospect, I wish I had made good on the solo monk build when I had the chance, rather than deciding that I found it boring. But, as they say, hindsight does not earn gold.
Back to hydras for me I guess.
Tyson The Slayer
U can get money from leaching off of mission groups or "borrowing" from your guildies
eom
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Originally Posted by Banebow
No offense, but your position is somewhat different that the people who have been playing since release and found that fissure armor (not needed, but desired by many) may be priced somewhat out of line as a gold sink (if you don't think 2 million gold is out of line, then mind telling me what is?)
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I don't understand why I'm supposed to take offense at that, but I could make the case that you are always broke because of your spending habits rather than your income.
I haven't made it all that far, but 2 million sounds ridiculous.
of course, it wasn't so long ago that 10k sounded ridiculous.
anyway, if you don't have it, why worry about it?
personally, I don't want everything handed to me in the first 5 minutes -- but that's me.
(and that's why I would never give advanced stuff to new players in ascalon --- you're killing the game for them)
Ellix Cantero
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Originally Posted by widds2v
it'll just look "plain" and not a unique look.
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Akhilleus
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Originally Posted by eom
(and that's why I would never give advanced stuff to new players in ascalon --- you're killing the game for them)
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i have a habbit of helping new players (specifically guild members), but i'll never give them something worth tons of cash right off the bat; i like to see that the person is willing to work and learn and participate in thier gaming experience, for two reasons:
A: if everything is handed to them they will get bored w/ the game mighty fast.
B: though they armay be receiving rather substancial amounts of help, they know how hard it is to aquire things in this game, and so acctually appreciate the help, and this makes them more likely to help other people (if someone gets NO help they may not help other people, since they feel they should keep what they earn all to themselves, and if everything is given to them they dont have any respect for the work that went into thier assistance).
eom
I like to help out newer players, but most of the time the only real help they need is advice and answers.
sometimes I'll throw 'em a couple charr carvings, but I don't think that's spoiling them too badly.
sometimes I'll throw 'em a couple charr carvings, but I don't think that's spoiling them too badly.
sabretalon
It was only just recently, that I realised that gold is shared with my henchmen as well!
I now collect items that only take up one slot, regardless of however many you collect i.e. char carvings. I then either sell them on to anyone asking for them or to a merchant. That way the money earned is all mine.
The first build I did, I only did the minimal amount of quests before jumping in to the post searing section of the game, I was a level 5 W/R.
My second build is my favourite at the moment, she is a N/W. I did more quests and levelled her up to a level 7 before jumping into post searing.
I found out by accident that dye is worth way so much more after the searing, this was after I had sold 2 lots of silver to someone for 100g! There are people out there who are on the lookout for new players and will take advantage of them not knowing the worth of items or anything about trading.
I hear people talk about purple and green or gold items but do not know if they mean that the items themselves look purple, green or gold or if it is the text for the name? If so then I have had several purple items that I did not think were that good, or worth changing from my current weapon.
In the end, the game is enjoyable and I have found that in the first week of owning it I put in over 30 hours of gametime!
I'm now working my way through forums to look out for any other tips for new players, to stop me making silly mistakes like the silver dye for 50g each, it is weird with that when they put a value of 1g next to it and someone offers 50g pre searing it looks like a good offer!
If anyone does have any tips for a new player then please let me know.
I now collect items that only take up one slot, regardless of however many you collect i.e. char carvings. I then either sell them on to anyone asking for them or to a merchant. That way the money earned is all mine.
The first build I did, I only did the minimal amount of quests before jumping in to the post searing section of the game, I was a level 5 W/R.
My second build is my favourite at the moment, she is a N/W. I did more quests and levelled her up to a level 7 before jumping into post searing.
I found out by accident that dye is worth way so much more after the searing, this was after I had sold 2 lots of silver to someone for 100g! There are people out there who are on the lookout for new players and will take advantage of them not knowing the worth of items or anything about trading.
I hear people talk about purple and green or gold items but do not know if they mean that the items themselves look purple, green or gold or if it is the text for the name? If so then I have had several purple items that I did not think were that good, or worth changing from my current weapon.
In the end, the game is enjoyable and I have found that in the first week of owning it I put in over 30 hours of gametime!
I'm now working my way through forums to look out for any other tips for new players, to stop me making silly mistakes like the silver dye for 50g each, it is weird with that when they put a value of 1g next to it and someone offers 50g pre searing it looks like a good offer!
If anyone does have any tips for a new player then please let me know.
Arturo02
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Keep playing though, it's more fun staying alive with sub-great armour.
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And honestly, you can go through every pre-Drok's mission and quests with non-Drok's armor as long as you are a level or two below-level or two above what you are fighting. The armor is not as important as your level and the monster's level.
I rarely update my armor on a char when I work it through the game in pve. But many people buy armor every step of the way. Hmmm, why are these people broke?
Roza
All players with more than 1000K in gold have done the invincy solo-UW monk thing a lot (or something similar).
A casual pve-player or someone who has bought the game less than 2 months ago will not have more than 50K, unless this player got very lucky in a trade or spend a looooooong time farming, trading (or cheated by buying gold with real money, something which more and more people are starting to do, it seems).
So the answer is either:
1. new players are NOT supposed to get a lot of gold
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2. Anet has done some things which had the (perhaps unintended) effect of making casual and newer pve-players very poor compared to players who did the solo-uw thing before the nerf, trade/solo-farm a lot or went to bed with virgoods.
And yes, we all know by know that you do NOT NEED a lot of gold. Please stop making that point.
A casual pve-player or someone who has bought the game less than 2 months ago will not have more than 50K, unless this player got very lucky in a trade or spend a looooooong time farming, trading (or cheated by buying gold with real money, something which more and more people are starting to do, it seems).
So the answer is either:
1. new players are NOT supposed to get a lot of gold
or
2. Anet has done some things which had the (perhaps unintended) effect of making casual and newer pve-players very poor compared to players who did the solo-uw thing before the nerf, trade/solo-farm a lot or went to bed with virgoods.
And yes, we all know by know that you do NOT NEED a lot of gold. Please stop making that point.
disarm76
Imagine in real life: everybody has some money. but not a lot of money. Nobody's rich.
So why should a major cellphone company make a state of the art cellfone if nobody can afford it? They just don't make it.
THAT's MY POINT. FOW armor shouldn't exist if nobody can buy it.
So why should a major cellphone company make a state of the art cellfone if nobody can afford it? They just don't make it.
THAT's MY POINT. FOW armor shouldn't exist if nobody can buy it.
Tiq
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Imagine in real life: everybody has some money. but not a lot of money. Nobody's rich.
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And plenty of people can, it just takes some dedication, THATS MY POINT
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And plenty of people can, it just takes some dedication, THATS MY POINT
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What annoyes me is all the people that got fow armour without any real effort (pre UW updates & price reset bonanza), i missed out on all that so i have to put in alot more effort than alot of other people had to.
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But it takes 5x more dedication/time than it used to for lots of people, whatever the reason.
What annoyes me is all the people that got fow armour without any real effort (pre UW updates & price reset bonanza), i missed out on all that so i have to put in alot more effort than alot of other people had to. |
See, thats probably why Im not noticing it, since Im a newbie to GW, where as youve seen how easy it used to be, and your understandably annoyed. So I can understand where your coming from
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So people who wants to FoW should get it and while more pragmatic items like weapon mods and decent sword should go back to being 50K++??
ANet has already made gold items, perfect rare items (aka green) and perfect common items (collectibles) accessible. NOTHING IS LEFT except for the FoW armor. IT WAS MEANT TO BE HARD!!!
If everyone is special, no one is special.
Reseting the price will not solve the issue because rich people will just drain the market in the first several hours!
There is nothing to justify of 'being rich in GW'
FoW ? already addressed.
Weapons? Already addressed
Dyes? Common as bad Wa/Mos
Runes? With very few exceptions all are very affordable. (Sup Abs for some reason is very expensive - I suspect because of some players having more than one in their current set)
Sup Vigor? 9 HP difference is not going to kill you.
Please can someone here justify and frame the argument for being 'rich'??
Majority of the argument falls under the category of 'because I want to be.'
aron searle
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So because you are envious ANet should revert back to what was a broken economy ??!!
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They have made adjustments that effect prices, and availability of items and have not fully balanced it.
2 million for a set of FoW now, it used to be half that.
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The simple point i was making which you failed to understand, is that it is HARDER. I am not asking for it on a plate, but i want a realistic target.
also collectors swords for example are + damage in stance not ^50% health, and as for green items they are for extremly lucky people or green farmers, (and i dont know if there is a green sword +15%^50%)
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There is nothing to justify of 'being rich in GW' FoW ? already addressed. Weapons? Already addressed Dyes? Common as bad Wa/Mos Runes? With very few exceptions all are very affordable. (Sup Abs for some reason is very expensive - I suspect because of some players having more than one in their current set) Sup Vigor? 9 HP difference is not going to kill you. Please can someone here justify and frame the argument for being 'rich'?? Majority of the argument falls under the category of 'because I want to be.' |
(and runes are so expensive because demand outstrips supply, simple enough)
Shadowspawn X
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I'm not saying that FoW armor should be cheap. I'm saying that conditions to buy it should remain steady over time. Now you need 2 millions to buy it (more for warriors), and it's simply unfair. |
As an example I got 61 shards, 2 rubies and 1 sapphire in the last 2 weeks from FoW, now it took me a long time to find decent fellow Forgerunners, because I clear it out and do all 11 quest each time I go, even on a bum failure run, I'm getting lots of loot and XP. There are also 5-6 chests and 4 or more are usually gold and at least one of the gold items is sellable for 10k-60k on average. I get 0 - 8 shards a run but 3-5 is average, also 100,000k XP a pop is nothing to sneeze at.
So just play the game and have fun, the armor is an enevitable side effect.
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THAT's MY POINT. FOW armor shouldn't exist if nobody can buy it.
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Yichi
The price of ectos and shards are due to so many people wanting fissure armor. The demand for it went up dramatically when everyone realised that they could solo UW with an invincimonk. on anet nerfed the farming skills and the AOE, but still dooable....ok. most everyone in this game with money (including me) has either gotten their money from farming, or spotting a good trade or two when they see one. for example i found a guy selling a req 7 unid falchion for 15k so he could get droks armor for his ranger. I snatched that up liek rosanne barr at a buffet reaching for a jellyroll. then turned around and sold it unid for 40k. same deal, same type of sword, same situation, i decide to id it. 14>50%, 10/9 sundering, +29 health. sold for 90k. so for spending 30k total i made 110k out of it.
Farming is just as productive if you knwo where to go and what types of monsters to look for to farm. im the past week i have gotten 3 sup vigors (2 i used) and 2 sup absorbs. Racnroth has a FoW farming guild for the spiders that i found works a lot of different places, not just in fissure (as my new warrior isnt ascended yet) and allows you to be able to get some of the things you need.
But the biggest hint i could give you is learn to love the collectors. My main char, my monk Mistress Yichi, used collector armor until i could afford better. same with other chars. the armor is a good max def armor for almost nothing but a little time. same with the weapons and shields. example: req 9 longsword, 15% in stance, max dmg, zealous hilt, armor +5 pommel goes for about 50-60k. Collectors longsword req 9 max dmg 15% stance is like 1 or 2k for items needed, and about 25k for add ons. see the difference?
its about knowing how to save your money and use it wisely when u have it, that will allow you to have mroe of it in the future
Farming is just as productive if you knwo where to go and what types of monsters to look for to farm. im the past week i have gotten 3 sup vigors (2 i used) and 2 sup absorbs. Racnroth has a FoW farming guild for the spiders that i found works a lot of different places, not just in fissure (as my new warrior isnt ascended yet) and allows you to be able to get some of the things you need.
But the biggest hint i could give you is learn to love the collectors. My main char, my monk Mistress Yichi, used collector armor until i could afford better. same with other chars. the armor is a good max def armor for almost nothing but a little time. same with the weapons and shields. example: req 9 longsword, 15% in stance, max dmg, zealous hilt, armor +5 pommel goes for about 50-60k. Collectors longsword req 9 max dmg 15% stance is like 1 or 2k for items needed, and about 25k for add ons. see the difference?
its about knowing how to save your money and use it wisely when u have it, that will allow you to have mroe of it in the future
Mahanaxar
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This thinking is the hole that many people fall into and its faulty logic. FoW armor is 60k plus materials. The issue is how do you get materials not 2 million gold. Form a group of buddies and master the FoW or UW. The materials will add up quickly.
As an example I got 61 shards, 2 rubies and 1 sapphire in the last 2 weeks from FoW, now it took me a long time to find decent fellow Forgerunners, because I clear it out and do all 11 quest each time I go, even on a bum failure run, I'm getting lots of loot and XP. There are also 5-6 chests and 4 or more are usually gold and at least one of the gold items is sellable for 10k-60k on average. I get 0 - 8 shards a run but 3-5 is average, also 100,000k XP a pop is nothing to sneeze at. So just play the game and have fun, the armor is an enevitable side effect. |
But in uw average is 2-4 globs for the whole party (clearing labyrinth+village+smites).
I usually go with 3/4 trappers, but try to imagine a "regular" party of 8.
A good run is 1 glob for 4/8 players. A standard run is 1 glob for 2/8 players, and i have seen *many* runs with no ectos dropped at all.
Sure, you can go deeper into the chaos plain, but you still have to cross the whole behemots area, and behemots do not drop ectos.
Probably you are right, now is quicker to get the materials, instead of 2 millions, only because now we gain money 10 times slower than 2 months ago.
Antagonist
Well, thanks to everybody for ignoring my complaint about skill costs and continue ranting about items. I wonder if I should take it as a hint where the true interests of the PvE community lies...
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Well, thanks to everybody for ignoring my complaint about skill costs and continue ranting about items. I wonder if I should take it as a hint where the true interests of the PvE community lies...
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DevilStick
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I hear people talk about purple and green or gold items but do not know if they mean that the items themselves look purple, green or gold or if it is the text for the name? If so then I have had several purple items that I did not think were that good, or worth changing from my current weapon.
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Green items came later and are boss specific weapon drops in the Sorrow's Furnace. Info here:
http://www.guildwiki.org/wiki/Unique_Item
Guildwiki.org is a great resource. Reading forums is a good way to learn about scams. Or, you can spend that time taking your lumps in game and play instead.
led-zep
being rich is nothing if you hoard gold and are selfish. i myself hate fow armour, its ALL ugly and as such i have bought a lot of my guildmembers 15k armour and i still have over 200k left.
none of my earnings have been gathered by selling overpriced green items like the majority of greedy people online (100k for a common green weapon -yes common lots of people are selling them- , no thanks i'll mod a collecters for a fraction of the price and still hit as hard) and i have never bought money off of ebay (real money for game money??? no thanks), salvaging and using material crafters can earn so much gold if you casually save up and sell stuff.
gold in guild wars means nothing, it wont enrich your real life (if you have one) and the only reason i am keeping 200k is because no doubt i'll be getting 15k armour for the new proffessions at some time. its more rewarding to help friends and guildmembers than to sneak off to storage and look at your 500k or whatever for a few minutes knowing you'll not spend it cos it looks so nice sitting there.
none of my earnings have been gathered by selling overpriced green items like the majority of greedy people online (100k for a common green weapon -yes common lots of people are selling them- , no thanks i'll mod a collecters for a fraction of the price and still hit as hard) and i have never bought money off of ebay (real money for game money??? no thanks), salvaging and using material crafters can earn so much gold if you casually save up and sell stuff.
gold in guild wars means nothing, it wont enrich your real life (if you have one) and the only reason i am keeping 200k is because no doubt i'll be getting 15k armour for the new proffessions at some time. its more rewarding to help friends and guildmembers than to sneak off to storage and look at your 500k or whatever for a few minutes knowing you'll not spend it cos it looks so nice sitting there.
Loviatar
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were you aware that before the change skills went ABOVE 1k rapidly and kept right on climbing with each one you bought without any cap at all?that is why the skill cost is being ignored......BECAUSE IT IS AN IMPROVEMENT.
Dax
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Imagine in real life: everybody has some money. but not a lot of money. Nobody's rich.
So why should a major cellphone company make a state of the art cellfone if nobody can afford it? They just don't make it. THAT's MY POINT. FOW armor shouldn't exist if nobody can buy it. |
There always needs to be something that is slightly out of reach to strive for. Even in real life. If everyone could have everything they wanted, life would be boring.
Red Locust
Back in the good 'ole days, we used to farm riverside and arid sea to high hell, to the point where we'd get more gold than we could stuff under the mattress. Between that and selling off some sigils, most people made enough gold to last them through the rest of their GW gaming days.
Nowadays, I suppose you've got to "play the market" or some crap like that
Unless you win halls daily, I don't see any reliable way of raking in the thousands. Sigils are pretty cheap, runes are practically free, and items have dropped down in value (last I heard).
Nowadays, I suppose you've got to "play the market" or some crap like that
Unless you win halls daily, I don't see any reliable way of raking in the thousands. Sigils are pretty cheap, runes are practically free, and items have dropped down in value (last I heard).
AncientPC
1) Farming
2) Trading
3) Running
4) eBay
Don't like your options? Then don't complain about not having that Crystalline sword or Fissure armor that's no better than crafted DF items. Collector items and DF armor are on par performance wise with the majority of the stuff out there.
@roaz: FOW armor is obtainable. I have been playing for a little over 2 months and I can afford FOW armor.
@aron: Don't blame someone just because they started playing at the right time. That's like getting angry at rich people for buying eBay stock when it was $0.25 a share.
2) Trading
3) Running
4) eBay
Don't like your options? Then don't complain about not having that Crystalline sword or Fissure armor that's no better than crafted DF items. Collector items and DF armor are on par performance wise with the majority of the stuff out there.
@roaz: FOW armor is obtainable. I have been playing for a little over 2 months and I can afford FOW armor.
@aron: Don't blame someone just because they started playing at the right time. That's like getting angry at rich people for buying eBay stock when it was $0.25 a share.
Arturo02
5) play the game
Anther option, and one that is much more fun. Of course you have to manage your money with this choice, but it is much more enjoyable of an avenue.
I can't wait until there is a Monopoly MMO so all the people obsessed with money have a place to play.
Anther option, and one that is much more fun. Of course you have to manage your money with this choice, but it is much more enjoyable of an avenue.
I can't wait until there is a Monopoly MMO so all the people obsessed with money have a place to play.
AncientPC
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5) play the game
Anther option, and one that is much more fun. Of course you have to manage your money with this choice, but it is much more enjoyable of an avenue. I can't wait until there is a Monopoly MMO so all the people obsessed with money have a place to play. |
Mr. Self Destruct
I dont get this "play the game" arguement. You only have so many quests and co-ops that you can do, and yeah you can do missions more than once but who the hell wants to for 200g and a miniscule chance at looting something of modest value? If you say "for fun" you're in the wrong thread.
If you wanna make some gold without investing too much time in it, you might try Sorrows Furnace. Helluva lot more fun than solo-farming and potentially very lucrative. I'll admit that each run is a gamble, you might get an item worth 100K or you might get squat. But all it takes is one good drop and you've got enough money for the all the expert salvage kits and vials of yellow dye you'll ever need.
If you wanna make some gold without investing too much time in it, you might try Sorrows Furnace. Helluva lot more fun than solo-farming and potentially very lucrative. I'll admit that each run is a gamble, you might get an item worth 100K or you might get squat. But all it takes is one good drop and you've got enough money for the all the expert salvage kits and vials of yellow dye you'll ever need.
Arturo02
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Haven't you PvE "holier than thou" players realised that it might be possible that other players find non-PvE activies fun?
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Farming and running are pve activities. Player vs enviroment, that's what pve means. Let's call a spade a spade.
Trading and ebay sales are something different entirely, and aren't neccesarily pve but the items you sell will most likely be used for pve.
You apparently missed my two points: that you can succeed in the game without doing any of the four things you listed, and that money is not everything in GW.
Arturo02
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I dont get this "play the game" arguement. You only have so many quests and co-ops that you can do, and yeah you can do missions more than once but who the hell wants to for 200g and a miniscule chance at looting something of modest value? If you say "for fun" you're in the wrong thread.
If you wanna make some gold without investing too much time in it, you might try Sorrows Furnace. Helluva lot more fun than solo-farming and potentially very lucrative. I'll admit that each run is a gamble, you might get an item worth 100K or you might get squat. But all it takes is one good drop and you've got enough money for the all the expert salvage kits and vials of yellow dye you'll ever need. |
You'd be surprised how far your gold will go when you do this
Arturo02
to further the argument...
this isn't real life, you can't go into the woods and fight monsters and they will then drop money and loot for you.
If you are tight with your money supply, you can have everything you want. You don't have to be obsessive as far as obtaining gold in the game.
But yet people treat it like they must have all the gold and all the best items in the game, despite whether the items actually have relevance to their gameplay.
this isn't real life, you can't go into the woods and fight monsters and they will then drop money and loot for you.
If you are tight with your money supply, you can have everything you want. You don't have to be obsessive as far as obtaining gold in the game.
But yet people treat it like they must have all the gold and all the best items in the game, despite whether the items actually have relevance to their gameplay.
Xenrath
Also another money saving tip is to not buy "perfect" weapons/upgrades. There really isn't all that much of a difference between 18% and 20% for example or 9% and 10% yet the prices can hike up massive amounts for minimal gain (e.g. goes from 5k to 50k!) You can have virtually max stat stuff for a fraction of the cost of total max stuff, just shop around
aron searle
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Originally Posted by Arturo02
to further the argument...
this isn't real life, you can't go into the woods and fight monsters and they will then drop money and loot for you. If you are tight with your money supply, you can have everything you want. You don't have to be obsessive as far as obtaining gold in the game. But yet people treat it like they must have all the gold and all the best items in the game, despite whether the items actually have relevance to their gameplay. |
so thanks for your "contribution".
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have you tried the 'play the game' option and managed your money at the same time? You'd be surprised how far your gold will go when you do this |
(unless your extremely lucky and get say a 15%^50% sword and sell it for 50k ish, which i just had drop on me after 600 hours of play).
Roza
[QUOTE=AncientPC]1) Farming
2) Trading
3) Running
4) eBay
Very true. Hence my whining.
1) Farming = grind. Boring
2) Trading = slow. Boring. Out-witting the newbies? I don't like it.
3) Running = Hard for non-primary warriors and you tend to ruin the game for those you run ("lvl 10 in Thunderhead LFG") AND ruin the lower lvl Arena's too.
4) eBay = Against the rules and rather pathetic, imo.
There is 5): winning HoH often. That is not a realistic option for most players, though. (The number of people able to do that is limited: only 8 people can do that at any one moment).
My wish:
1. that quests (such as the harder quests like the titan quests) would yield more gold (perhaps by adding a gold reward)
2. That people here would stop pointing out that you do not NEED gold.
2) Trading
3) Running
4) eBay
Very true. Hence my whining.
1) Farming = grind. Boring
2) Trading = slow. Boring. Out-witting the newbies? I don't like it.
3) Running = Hard for non-primary warriors and you tend to ruin the game for those you run ("lvl 10 in Thunderhead LFG") AND ruin the lower lvl Arena's too.
4) eBay = Against the rules and rather pathetic, imo.
There is 5): winning HoH often. That is not a realistic option for most players, though. (The number of people able to do that is limited: only 8 people can do that at any one moment).
My wish:
1. that quests (such as the harder quests like the titan quests) would yield more gold (perhaps by adding a gold reward)
2. That people here would stop pointing out that you do not NEED gold.
AncientPC
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Originally Posted by Arturo02
lol, yah I am a pve 'holier then thou' player.
Farming and running are pve activities. Player vs enviroment, that's what pve means. Let's call a spade a spade. Trading and ebay sales are something different entirely, and aren't neccesarily pve but the items you sell will most likely be used for pve. You apparently missed my two points: that you can succeed in the game without doing any of the four things you listed, and that money is not everything in GW. |
3) Running = PvE
5) play the game = PvE
So aren't you just reiterating what I've already said? Haven't you read my previous posts stating that you don't need these vanity items to compete in GW? Do you have any reading comprehension skills?