Just how ARE you supposed to make money?

Yakumo

Yakumo

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

UK

Hearts Of Fury [HoF]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by sabretalon
I now collect items that only take up one slot, regardless of however many you collect i.e. char carvings. I then either sell them on to anyone asking for them or to a merchant. That way the money earned is all mine.
Likewise... I tend to horde any stackable items I come across or have created from salvaging. I have a bag filled with these stackable items (freeing my backpack for other stuff) and I don't give it much thought. I just play the game, and before I know it, I have this nice little nest egg. It grows slowly, but surely.

After awhile, I would sell the items to the merchant, or to the material trader for more gold. And if possible, I would exchange items at a collector and then sell whatever I got in exchange eg I had 39 Charr carvings which I could have sold to the merchant for 117 gold (at 3 gold each). Instead, I exchanged them for 13 bows at a collector and then sold all 13 for a total of 195 gold. I made a profit of 78 gold... To some, that is small change... To me, every little helps. And the bonus is, I didn't even have to work for it, they dropped and I picked them up along the way... easy money from one inventory slot... and my bag has 10.

Esprit

Esprit

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Dvd Forums [DVDF]

E/

I've tried farming Sorrows, and found it to be too frustrating with random groups. Nor do I farm UW.

I do what Yakumo and Sabretalon do, sell crafting materials. 250 Wood Planks will sell for 2k+ and even more if you sell them to players. And once you get to the later missions (Dragon's Lair and on) you usually get 8-10 wood planks from salvaging a simple white, no frills, bow. If you are dedicated, you could probably find a run that has good drops, and can be done with relatively few people, and make about 10k an hour.

Sure, it's not as glamarous, and can be pretty boring, but it's an easy way to make some gold.

Damia

Damia

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

New Haven, CT

Neverland Entity

Me/Mo

why can't we all just be cool and let the koreans farm the gold (no racism, it is a well known fact), and we can all go buy it on ebay!!

Zaklex

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2005

San Jose, CA, USA

Remnants of Ascalon

Quote:
Originally Posted by Damia
why can't we all just be cool and let the koreans farm the gold (no racism, it is a well known fact), and we can all go buy it on ebay!!
Because it's against the EULA and a bannable offense, and quite a few people have had their accounts banned that do this.

AncientPC

AncientPC

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Ascalon 1

W/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yakumo
Likewise... I tend to horde any stackable items I come across or have created from salvaging. I have a bag filled with these stackable items (freeing my backpack for other stuff) and I don't give it much thought. I just play the game, and before I know it, I have this nice little nest egg. It grows slowly, but surely.

After awhile, I would sell the items to the merchant, or to the material trader for more gold. And if possible, I would exchange items at a collector and then sell whatever I got in exchange eg I had 39 Charr carvings which I could have sold to the merchant for 117 gold (at 3 gold each). Instead, I exchanged them for 13 bows at a collector and then sold all 13 for a total of 195 gold. I made a profit of 78 gold... To some, that is small change... To me, every little helps. And the bonus is, I didn't even have to work for it, they dropped and I picked them up along the way... easy money from one inventory slot... and my bag has 10.
I'm pretty sure that the price of collector weapons sold to merchant is the same as the individual pieces to make that collector weapon. At least that is the case with desert collector items.

Mordakai

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Esprit
I've tried farming Sorrows, and found it to be too frustrating with random groups. Nor do I farm UW.

I do what Yakumo and Sabretalon do, sell crafting materials. 250 Wood Planks will sell for 2k+ and even more if you sell them to players. And once you get to the later missions (Dragon's Lair and on) you usually get 8-10 wood planks from salvaging a simple white, no frills, bow. If you are dedicated, you could probably find a run that has good drops, and can be done with relatively few people, and make about 10k an hour.

Sure, it's not as glamarous, and can be pretty boring, but it's an easy way to make some gold.
Last time I checked, price for Wood Planks had dropped to 50 gold for 10, (or 1,250 gold for 250 planks).

Unless those Bows are selling for less than 50 gold, it's not worth it to Salvage them, esp. if you're using a Superior Salvage Kit!

Mordakai

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blu_onyx
GUILD WARS NEEDS A *LOT* MORE ITEMS! i mean a LOT. I believe it to be one of the games biggest shortcomings!.
Well, they have to save something for the Expansions, correct?

For all those complaining about not being able to get FoW armor right away, would you be happy if Anet just gave you armor today?

Now, I admit, it seems like the only reasonable way to get FoW armor was to get it earlier, but....

nothing is in stone. Who knows? Maybe the expansion will have some new piece of armor, with new stuff to collect, and the demand for Ectoplasm will go down. Or maybe GW will reset the price of Ecto to 300 again (although, you'd have to be on at the right time to benefit...)

I was just scammed out of 16 Plat, which set back my collecting for 15K armor. I was mad at first, but then realized that I would eventually get the money back, and I need to focus on just having fun and not on scoring Loot.

So I made up a new character, and am back in Pre! LOL.

Jade

Jade

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

Canada...... Eh!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zaklex
Because it's against the EULA and a bannable offense, and quite a few people have had their accounts banned that do this.
Really? Have you ever even been on ebay and checked that stuff out? Obviously not. The people that sell the gold are very clever in they way they word it. They are not selling you 1000k gold, they are selling you the time they invested in getting that 1000k gold. Sell you gold = bannable offense, sell you thier time = nothing. No one that I have heard of has gotten thier account banned for buying gold on ebay. If they have they'd prolly have a nice little legal case against Anet. I'm not defending the use of ebay to become uber rich, I'm just stating my point of view.
Now, on that note, there were quite a few people that became rich early on because Anet hadn't "fixed" (hehe ) the game yet. But there are many many people who came by thier money the old fashioned honest way. Buy low, sell high. Some have gotten rich just by pure luck. I myself once found a req 8 gold fellblade and sold it unid for 70k. But I guess you could have 5 million people come on here with all the proof in the world that they make thier money honestly, and even show everyone else how to do it, and there would still be people bitching and complaining. That's the best part about living in a free country. You can piss and moan all you want and no one can do anything about it except piss and moan back at you.

Zaklex

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2005

San Jose, CA, USA

Remnants of Ascalon

Quote:
Originally Posted by AncientPC
I'm pretty sure that the price of collector weapons sold to merchant is the same as the individual pieces to make that collector weapon. At least that is the case with desert collector items.
Especially if you ID the weapon(s) before selling them to the merchant, which increases their gold value.

Dancing Blade

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

Me/A

Most of the money i make comes from selling sigils, i usually earn 20 - 60 p a day just from that, plus famepoints.

Yakumo

Yakumo

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

UK

Hearts Of Fury [HoF]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by AncientPC
I'm pretty sure that the price of collector weapons sold to merchant is the same as the individual pieces to make that collector weapon. At least that is the case with desert collector items.
Hmmm... I'm quite sure that a Charr carving was valued at 3g, and for 3 of them I got a collector bow that I sold to the merchant for 15g. Hence getting as many bows as I could from the collector to sell. ACK!... I think I'll double check tonight, for peace of mind... just in case my eyes or my brain is failing me due to old age.

I was going to do the same with Stone Summit Badges last night, but the only collector I found would exchange 5 of them for a pair of necro gloves... Did one exchange to test the market, and found that a badge had a value of 8g and the gloves (which effectively cost 40g) was only worth 24g... Lucky I didn't exchange all the badges for gloves, else I would have had a pair for each day of the week.

There are ways of making money, some are better than others, but I'm in no rush to amass a huge fortune in gold. Yes, gold makes things easier, but if I cannot afford it, then I'll go without it... If I can't afford that mega super duper armour when I arrive at whichever city it's found in, then I'll make do with what I have or can afford... I'm not going to spend time worrying too much about gold... Why? Because I'm an adventurer and I should be out adventuring!

Markaedw

Markaedw

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

N/

save your badges until you get to droks, the collector there has some really good stuff

Talin04

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

places

XoO

W/Mo

dude i just need a better farming spot...or someway to actually break my 200k streak

coolsti

coolsti

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Denmark

Hmm, I never seemed to have a problem with money and I don't spend much time farming. Farming for me means going out once in a while and clearing out SF for the items that drop. But then again, I have no intention of getting FOW armor, although my characters are beginning to acquire 15K armour.

But how to get money? Isn't it a good idea to take a tour to UW or FOW once in a while? I started to go to FOW with various groups, and I normally get 1 or more shards per tour. A good tour gets me a couple of them, and they sell for at least 3K per piece. And lately I have been going to UW with small trapper groups, 4 people max, and have been averaging 1 ecto for each 2 runs or so. Considering that an ecto can sell for 12-13K, that is good money and certainly enough money for me.

What I am talking about here means nothing to those of you who are farming for 100K and upwards per day. But if you are just a mere mortal like me, then UW and FOW trips can be a good way to get out of that financial hole.

l Selling God l

l Selling God l

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

Xx Hells Angels xX

N/Me

In my honest opinion, the nerfing that Anet has introuduced to GW is causing loss in interest in this game. I know MANY people who are now not even bothering trying to get the money for the armor, which is what EVERY players goal is in this game, it's all about the armor. But when money making is near impossible it get's very boring and at time just stupid. I understand their reasoning for this nerfing, but common at least put it back so its SOMEWHAT hwo it used to be, when i LOVED the game, I'm even losing interest in this dam game. No more running, farming is bloody boring for the time it takes and the garbage drops you get, soloing...I would solo for HOURS on end, but now i go for 5 minutes and shut down the game and head over to MSN or something...yes, it's getting that bad..MSN INSTEAD of GuildWars!

Anyways, thats my 2 cents....

Tiq

Tiq

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

Kryptonian Krew

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by l Selling God l
I know MANY people who are now not even bothering trying to get the money for the armor, which is what EVERY players goal is in this game, it's all about the armor.

Uh, no.....sorry man, but you cant speak for everyone playing the game.

coolsti

coolsti

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Denmark

Quote:
Originally Posted by l Selling God l
In my honest opinion, the nerfing that Anet has introuduced to GW is causing loss in interest in this game. I know MANY people who are now not even bothering trying to get the money for the armor, which is what EVERY players goal is in this game, it's all about the armor. But when money making is near impossible it get's very boring and at time just stupid. I understand their reasoning for this nerfing, but common at least put it back so its SOMEWHAT hwo it used to be, when i LOVED the game, I'm even losing interest in this dam game. No more running, farming is bloody boring for the time it takes and the garbage drops you get, soloing...I would solo for HOURS on end, but now i go for 5 minutes and shut down the game and head over to MSN or something...yes, it's getting that bad..MSN INSTEAD of GuildWars!

Anyways, thats my 2 cents....
Uh, nope, you aren't speaking for me either. Its NOT about the armour. After finishing this game with 4 characters, what makes me continue to log in and play every night is the teamwork and interaction I get from partying with the friends that I have met on line. And trying out different combinations of skills for my four quite different characters.

If the people who spend most of their time farming this game are leaving out of boredom, well, for me that is fine, they are in the way of trying to form a good team to play this game anyway. Time to move on to the next game. Or read a book. Or make dinner for the first time since Guild Wars was released ....

Doikor

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2005

Finland

Storm Bearers [SB]

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by l Selling God l
In my honest opinion, the nerfing that Anet has introuduced to GW is causing loss in interest in this game. I know MANY people who are now not even bothering trying to get the money for the armor, which is what EVERY players goal is in this game, it's all about the armor. But when money making is near impossible it get's very boring and at time just stupid. I understand their reasoning for this nerfing, but common at least put it back so its SOMEWHAT hwo it used to be, when i LOVED the game, I'm even losing interest in this dam game. No more running, farming is bloody boring for the time it takes and the garbage drops you get, soloing...I would solo for HOURS on end, but now i go for 5 minutes and shut down the game and head over to MSN or something...yes, it's getting that bad..MSN INSTEAD of GuildWars!

Anyways, thats my 2 cents....
Well its not my goal. I just wanto have some fun in PvP.
But i got like 150k of gold just from selling sigils

Sharpe_116

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

The Adventurers Society

Mo/W

heres are my main ways of cash, i am very profitable


order from most cash to least

1. Green farming, fa runs exactly 20 times a day with my guild, at the minimum, 4/5 of us get malinons..

2. Uw solo and two man farming. when i solol normmaly around3-4 ectos for me, when i 2 man, around 2-3 ectos per both of us.

3. Griffon farming, well..l. when im bored to such an extent... i got farm griffs for about 10 times and make 10k, then go do something else..

kg_lildude1

kg_lildude1

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

Lionheart Braves [LHB]

W/

you stop 'itchin here and go PLAY the game, and you will make some money

seriously, if you don't like the way ANET is running things, quit the game, you are not in a legal binding contract saying you HAVE to play the game.

thats my 2 cents for all you whiners

Jade

Jade

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

Canada...... Eh!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sharpe_116
heres are my main ways of cash, i am very profitable


order from most cash to least

1. Green farming, fa runs exactly 20 times a day with my guild, at the minimum, 4/5 of us get malinons..

2. Uw solo and two man farming. when i solol normmaly around3-4 ectos for me, when i 2 man, around 2-3 ectos per both of us.

3. Griffon farming, well..l. when im bored to such an extent... i got farm griffs for about 10 times and make 10k, then go do something else..
Sooo, no job then? I mean hell, the rest of us could be making mad money too if all we did all day long was sit and play the game.

Kai Nui

Kai Nui

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Behind you with a knife

Celebrity Gangsters [FamE]

Me/

It's like Anet wants you to have something, but you can't do anything for it. Finding pennies off the street isn't going to help you save up to pay for something like a brand new fur coat. It's ridiculous.

chris_nin00

chris_nin00

Dun dun dun

Join Date: Aug 2005

Reddit Guild

R/

How are you supposed to make money?!
I made a post like this a little while ago...

As for farming for money...
-Running
-Selling
-Scamming (highly discouraged, looked down upon in some societies)
-Farming (Small cash)
-Doing a jig (Dance)
-Prostitution (Also discouraged, although I do know some people that make a pretty penny doing this)
-Begging (It works, PieXags bought his 15k armor using this technique)
-Acting for a music video
-Work at the market stand selling runes at ridiculous prices
-Just be creative

Good luck making money
By the way I only have 5k on my account

wilebill

wilebill

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mt Vernon, Ohio

Band of the Hawk

W/Mo

Early this morning I pretended I was a new player. I grabbed the henchies in Temple of Ages, and with my full up w/mo and trusty axe fought across to the Talmark Wilderness, killed most of the stuff on that map, went on over to Fishermen's Haven, and then on down to Sanctum Cay. Which is a reasonably long trek. Killed a powerful amount of stuff, bosses, elites, you name it.

Total reward for all that? About 200 g maybe. For the ordinary player, it is difficult to make enough money to buy salvage kits and identification kits.

This is not only a problem in GW. World of Warcraft is having a similar problem for much the same reason.

kvndoom

kvndoom

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Communistwealth of Virginia

Uninstalled

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by wilebill
Early this morning I pretended I was a new player. I grabbed the henchies in Temple of Ages, and with my full up w/mo and trusty axe fought across to the Talmark Wilderness, killed most of the stuff on that map, went on over to Fishermen's Haven, and then on down to Sanctum Cay. Which is a reasonably long trek. Killed a powerful amount of stuff, bosses, elites, you name it.

Total reward for all that? About 200 g maybe. For the ordinary player, it is difficult to make enough money to buy salvage kits and identification kits.

This is not only a problem in GW. World of Warcraft is having a similar problem for much the same reason.
You can make a lot of money just soloing Talmark, and get good gold items, plus Imps drop charcoal regularly. Before I got addicted to desert farming, I ran Talmark every day, and made 5-10k a day. Of course now I can make 20k or more a day by spending a few hours in the desert, so it's what I do. I don't need the money; I don't want, need, or have anything better than Droknar's armor. It's just how I enjoy the game. Getting rich by doing it is just a side effect.

SaintGreg

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

After going down to sorrows furnace maybe about 6 or so times in the past 2 days, the money from greens is very lucrative - I've gotten about 200k or so, but I was also probably a bit lucky. Sorrows is also better enjoyed with 8 people, rather than the 5 man farm teams you see. From what I saw, the drop rates were actually better, but that could be my imagination. One boss dropped all 3 greens, another did 2, so overall you do not get that much less money - and it goes much quicker with 8 people and you can involve people that wouldn't usually get in on runs. I wouldn't spend money on the keys though, very rarely will you get anything worth selling to anybody but the trader.

Barinthus

Barinthus

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

California

(TRUE)

R/Me

I find it profitable to sell salvaged materials. I used to try to sell stuff but I got tired of it so went back to salvaging. Now I have a better flow of income.

PtiteDiablesse

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

Xen of Sigils [XoO]

R/Mo

Saving money's not all that hard. I farm a little bit (by "little bit" I mean no more than a couple hours a week). I don't speculate (frankly, much too risky for my tastes). Don't buy low/sell high (again, don't have the eye for it).

I just play the game. I do FoW/UW questing (no, not farming. Questing. 3+ hours down there). I play the missions and quests. And I don't spend my money on frivolous items like FoW armour or 15K armour (the Drok's stuff is fine for my tastes). I'm not filthy rich, but I've got some monetary presence. 175K cash, maybe another 700K from items I can sell to Traders (black/silver dye, ecto, obsidian, superior vigour runes... all of which I've had drop for me simply as a result of playing through the game). Another ~300K from weapons I can sell (I'm estimating this based solely on one or two big-item drops). I'm probably worth over a million, easy. Not because I'm savvy or unscrupulous or I have uncanny business skills or luck or I'm buying just after ANet resets prices, then reselling. I do it simply by playing.

Rather than complaining.

i0n_st0rm

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Dec 2005

W/Mo

One thing that has me less than impressed with people is their view on how things should be. Why don't we try being realistic about the HoH option, shall we? HoH isn't even PvE, so let's not even go there. It is the "ultimate" of PvP, and suggesting winning there as a source for income is inane at best. Running? Yes, this is a rather good way of making money. The only problem is that ANet is going out of their way to make the truly profitable runs less worth the effort.

The Droknar run is still soloable, but reliability comes in 2-man teams, which cuts the profits in half. (So they just cut that income in half.) Other runs are just pathetic to try and get decent money for. The worse that they make the runs for Droknar/Copperhammer/Granite/Marhan, the more people change over to running Ascalon City to Crystal Desert, or full Desert tours, or running missions. This means that it is increasingly difficult to be the one chosen to run people, because the realms are flooded with "Runnin to XXX for Xk, invite yourself!"

eBay is a non-option, as it is pathetic and a good way to get your account banned.

Farming? Well, farming is still just as doable as ever, and every place that could be farmed in the past is still farmable now (yes, solo and all). The only problem is that every "balancing" change that they make slows the farming speed exponentially. Am I bitter about losing my "aggro everything, take a nap, and come back still at 100% life and energy" pbond build? Of course I am. But it was hardly the only way to do it. They took away the method of doing it with ease that required no skill at all, and that's fine. Then they nerfed one smiting skill after another, until there is only 1 smiting skill even usable with farming now. Not that this is the only way to farm, mind you, not at all. But let's look at the changes that came after nerfing smiting, shall we? In comes the AoE AI update, which was misleading and a blatant anti-farming nerf. It didn't update the Henchie AI at all, as they will still stand in the middle of AoE spells, while the enemy runs right out of it. This isn't just a farming issue, it's a game balance issue. The only thing left balanced in the game is PvP. Perhaps they WANT to force people to lose interest in PvE and switch to PvP. I personally never considered PvE to be a building phase that lead to PvP. PvE and PvP are worlds apart and should stay so. But now, only the most adept nukers can be effective, because the enemy runs straight out of their real nuke skills. Minion Horde body block FTW!

Oh, and let's not forget the option that keeps being brought up: play the game. Really, now. Make a new character, play it straight through the game without putting any money in storage and never using any items in storage. Even if you use nothing but collector gear and buy no skills ever, see just how much you will have when you beat the game. If you find an item worth 150+k, then consider yourself very lucky and not in the norm. I guarantee that yes, you will be easily able to afford Droknar gear when you get there. However, if you think that you will be able to afford 15k for that character by the time that you beat the game, you are sorely mistaken. To get real money with that character, you will end up re-doing Missions for drops, or making multiple trips to the same area for the drops.. and then you are *gasp* farming!

Since this post has gotten long anyway, I'd like to touch on what I've seen people saying about us wanting the economy ruined for our benefit. Well, why don't you try looking at the way that it was compared to how it is. ANet already ruined the economy. Perfect items are worth a fraction of what they used to be, runes are worth next to nothing, the chests have made items that people find from drops completely obsolete because perfect items with perfect mods became horribly common, and let's not forget green items. Green items? What genius came up with this? While I personally would prefer a good gold item to a green any day, they further destroy the economy. Apparently, adding chests that always drop purples and golds wasn't enough screwing of the economy, they had to add easily obtainable perfect stat items that were always the same.

And though I have avoided saying it, I'll do it anyway. We all know where the people that made GW came from, and what their track record was. I stopped playing GW for a time after all the nerfs, because it just gave me flashbacks of Diablo 2. And now, with the extent of the nerfs, the adding of chests, the adding of green items, and now the verification of an Assassin profession in Chapter 2... I think that it's safe to say: Welcome to Diablo 3 MMO. When I bought this game, it was truly innovative and new in the MMO world, but it has become more and more like the standard fodder out there. In many ways, the only difference now between this game and the others out there is the lack of a monthly fee. They sold over 1 million copies of their game on the "fresh" and "new" angle, why do they feel the need to ruin their game to become more like the standard garbage out there?

WOlff the fighter

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

Phoenix knights of sparta

W/R

LoL, i dont know if anyone already mentioned but.. If no one did yet..Then the best way to get lots of money easliy is to join a guild that has a hall,cape. Then Eventual enherited then sell it for 21plat-50plat, depending on how many active players there are. Ingenious eh?!

Doctor Rhino

Doctor Rhino

Banned

Join Date: Sep 2005

MFC

W/Mo

Yeah, if you have a month or so to spend making a good enough relationship with the leader...

Konrow

Konrow

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

NY, New York

Warlords of Earth [WAR]

i never have financial problems and i'm doing pretty well progressing with the game as well. Theres no rule that says u need to have more than 100k everyday and then need to buy stuff that has a nicely collored name. ooh look its gold, i'm gonna pay a ridiculous amount of cash to get it! I always avoid doing and barely ever buy anything from people unless i plan to sell it higher. I also don't spend hours buying low selling high. i just do it if i see at the spur of the moment when i see someone selling for low. Altho it'd be nice tyo have more than the 40k i have now, i don't really care since all that 40k is doing is just sitting there.

This is pretty much wat i do and it works incredibly well with no financial or gaming problems:

--play through the game slowly, trying to clear out every area at least once. this makes money pretty fast. (for example: when going to yaks from ascalon, try to uncover the entire map while wiping out all the monsters. it'll get you up at least another lvl and provide 1k or more. but thats a bad example since ascalon isn't really a good place for money/exp imo)
--when i get to kryta, actually the maguuma jungle, i start taking the henchies and doing runs. when at lvls 15-18 this makes some good xp and some pretty good money.
--you can easily get thorugh the game with yaks bend/ascalon armor until droks. believe me, i've done it and it worked well without me spending tons of my money for other armors.
--DO NOT pay for runs. its a waste of time and fighting it out is much more profitable while runs just take away money without giving much back. (only time you might want to get run is to the desrt missions and by then u should have a guild with at least one guildmate that will happily run you for free)
--if you die, do not be afraid of the dp and just keep on going forwards instead of back. i have found that when i do this and go back to where i died, i usually beat that area quickly thanks to the mobs already being decreased in numbers from the first battle.)
--do a few runs and solo farms but not for hours on end. i'd say two or three runs/farms while having 3 keys at your disposal will give you a more than sufficient profit.

well anyway its up to you if you want to follow my advice or not. its worked for me very well and its still working out well. anyway good luck and if i think of something else i'll be sure to share it with anyone that wants it.

Manic Smile

Manic Smile

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

Hawaii

----- 15^50[Rare] ---- Alliance: ----- [SMS] -----

Quote:
Originally Posted by WOlff the fighter
LoL, i dont know if anyone already mentioned but.. If no one did yet..Then the best way to get lots of money easliy is to join a guild that has a hall,cape. Then Eventual enherited then sell it for 21plat-50plat, depending on how many active players there are. Ingenious eh?!
the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO? or is it just me...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kai Nui
It's like Anet wants you to have something, but you can't do anything for it. Finding pennies off the street isn't going to help you save up to pay for something like a brand new fur coat. It's ridiculous.
Let me guess...you think that shiny new Ferarri should be given to you...


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Originally Posted by Melkor of ZoSo
I agree... How does ANet expect us to get money enough to pay for things they price rediculously high?
Stop expecting to have 15k armor overnight? I don't know... People just whine too much. Everyone wants to be rich and have FoW armor...lmao...or that Crystaline Sword 15% with no negative mod now...ok hyperbole here. I remeber getting 8k armor on my nec before vellum could be bought from merchants...I'd litterally buy them out after 3 or 4 pieces. I had to make the money, farm the items, then run to a material guy. Be patient and you can buy anything...or farm if you can't wait. I mean I played this game for 6ish months with having only one character a collector staff, good mods I admit +5 energy +29 health but I found them myself through missions. If you actually put the time into game to play it you ill get good drops sometimes...enough to fund one thing. But if you expect to run your 4th character to droks get 15k armor and the best green/golds all in one day you better have the cash...note it cost me 3 days 60ishk to get my Mez to 20 with droks armor and 20/20 Rockmolder with a +5 energy 7% regen cane. Add on for the 15k if I chose and you get the idea of how much this can cost. If you want it quick you have to farm. I've made 200kish from IDS solorunning. 80k from one run in FoW....60ish k from shards...so it is doable if you must insist on farming, but other wise you have to be patient.

Those really are you options. Frankly I'd like to see the farming utterly nerfed. Put team drop bonuses in like in D2 and crank up the fading of repeadted farming sites. Make people have to actually play the game instead of doing 5 man SF farming all night. Why should a person who plays this game 20 hours a week in parties be worse off then a farmer playing 4 hours solo in UW?

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Originally Posted by wilebill
Early this morning I pretended I was a new player. I grabbed the henchies in Temple of Ages, and with my full up w/mo and trusty axe fought across to the Talmark Wilderness, killed most of the stuff on that map, went on over to Fishermen's Haven, and then on down to Sanctum Cay. Which is a reasonably long trek. Killed a powerful amount of stuff, bosses, elites, you name it.

Total reward for all that? About 200 g maybe. For the ordinary player, it is difficult to make enough money to buy salvage kits and identification kits.

This is not only a problem in GW. World of Warcraft is having a similar problem for much the same reason.

Why should you have enough for Droks let alone FoW armor or End Game weapons after just that? Geez people, it's only a problem because of society as a whole...

Kassad

Kassad

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

W/

Farm ettins for a few hours hours non-stop, you should get about 5 sup absorps and sup vigors.

Manic Smile

Manic Smile

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

Hawaii

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Originally Posted by Kassad
Farm ettins for a few hours hours non-stop, you should get about 5 sup absorps and sup vigors.
wow...hook me up with this spot...not for farming but for getting them for my war

Kassad

Kassad

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Manic Smile
wow...hook me up with this spot...not for farming but for getting them for my war
The ettins outside beetletun, go through the east exit.

TheLordOfBlah

TheLordOfBlah

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

California

None

Mo/N

How I make money:

Runs

Go out with my warrior outside of warcamp with 4 henchies and kill the bosses. I made 150k in a few days. 1 lucky drop = shitload of money

spartans

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

We have seen many arguments about not needing expensive armour for example and that is very true, it is not needed, does not offer any bonus in game mechanics at all, yes we could all do with collector armour if we had to im sure. The thing is though its a goal, something to reach for, purely from a PvE point of view. Its also insanely unreachable to the average casual player or to players that now start the game as opposed to those who made their fortunes much more easily from release. I had played since release and have seen a downward spiral from constant nerfing. The game totally suits PvP no doubt at all in my mind, perhaps that was the point all along, for me personally PvE was where I had most fun but we are geared invariably to PvP, the two styles really are exclusive of each other and at confict when combined in the Guid Wars context. WoW seems to have achieved this extremely well (please this is not a free plug or wow discussion, simply and observation)

I was fortunate, I got to farm like a madman, it was brilliant simply brilliant, customizing your builds to see how many you could do FTW not the gold. Gold came second but was also handy There would be guild competitons to see who could take on x amount of this nasty and survive. What a blast, and how satisfying to see 20 minotaurs drop around you. But you know what, that also honed the skills of all the players in the guild, they knew their characters inside out, knew how to tweak for different situations, knew each and every skill, experimented together and that learning transfered to missions and to S/F both in guild and in PUGs.

Now I cant do those things I like most, I mean I dont need to tweak to kill one nasty when every other one scatters because of AOE lol.

The same with items, yes collectors items are fantastic, but what if you want to experiment, tweak and fine tune you character, hone a certain style or build? We can argue till the cows come home that the game is about skill not items, heres the thing though ITEMS DO MATTER, they matter in the skill you use to build a character to best use that item and the stats with it, and dont tell me that one tiny little bit of health left over is the same as a wipe.

To fully explore the game content requires a certain amount of gold no doubt at all, sure I dyed some things black, I tried this sword and that skill, I tried this armour and that armour, I supported many other character through the game as well, it all took gold to some extent, it wasnt mandatory to do so, wasnt even necessary but it was FUN. Fun to experimet with the all the element of the game, the look and the feel.

Cant imagine celebrating using collector armour and collector items the entire time, and I used them, I sure as hell did, but you simply have to be curious about whats out there to play with.

I believe the game in its current form requires gold, I desire that there be quests and missions to obtain any item that is rare as a reward instead of farming. Peace.

Manic Smile

Manic Smile

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

Hawaii

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Originally Posted by spartans
I believe the game in its current form requires gold, I desire that there be quests and missions to obtain any item that is rare as a reward instead of farming. Peace.
Again all the pronouns are generalized and don't refer to the previous poster specificly...if you're offended by this post, most likely it applies to you.

While I do belive there should be more incentive for doing missoins/quests/exploring I disagree with offering everything throug missions/quests. There needs to be something better about random drops or it'll be just as bad as FFXI...everyone who did the same missions uses the exact same weapons. Take a tip from D2 the random drop is what makes the game worth playing..better with GW since for the most part there are no presets...or at least the random drop can be better then the presets/look different. Why should a casual player look better then a hardcore player. That's like saying a part time worker should make as much at the end of the year as a full time worker. I'm tired of hearing this argument...go play WoW...that is for casual players...if you REALLY NEED that different looking armor/weapon as that really is all it is; different looking or % of a damage difference...were talking 5k for 10-12% items MAX vs the 100k for 15% items then you need to pay for it. And that 3ish% really won't make a difference, because if you were good enough for the outcome between you and your apponent in PvP to be decided by 3ish% you'd have enough money for the 15% already...and don't even beging to try to telling me you need it for PvE...it's not a need it's a want and most cannot fufill that want...get over it. I want to be elected president with my 3.2 gpa but it aint gonna happen.

If you really can't manage to scrounge together 5k in 30min to an hour to get yourself something "good" then in game message me and I'll take you on a run with me or something...and don't be coming to me with your lvl 13 pre-desert character wanting max dmg 15% mods...

+25 health mods are easy to get for any item and only cost around 1k. All mods under max by 3% are dirt cheap uaually. All weapons under 3% max dmg are 10k max and that's usually for skins. There is no reason you cannot try out any build minus the appearence to test it's effectiveness...that 2 extra mana/3% dmg/3% chance isn't an issue short of highly competivtive PvP which most whiners should not be/are not a part of. If you really are a hard core player and have been here since the start of this game and are dirt poor...then you really need to take a look at how you spend your time/money.

funbun

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

I forget. Really. I don't know.

Mo/

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Originally Posted by Manic Smile
If you really are a hard core player and have been here since the start of this game and are dirt poor...then you really need to take a look at how you spend your time/money.
Good point. For a while I was one of these "gotta make 1000k" people. I was constantly scouring forums to find builds. I was spending uber almounts of cash buying sup. runes and leet weapons. Signing up for this academy and that. I must have burned through 500k just chasing waterfalls.

But I quit all that. I decided to have a goal: that I will keep a minimum of 20k in my account. This instantly put a cap on my spending. I started using collectors weapons and other less than perfect items.

If I want cash I just get my W/Mo and go pwn hydras for a few minutes, then it's back to PvP or off to the auction to buy a mod or something. If I find an good weapon via farming I just put it up for auction. If it sells; then, so be it. If it doesn't; it goes to the merchant.

In other words, I quit worrying about money and start having fun. Which for me is PvP arenas. Some ppl like running or playing the marketplace, but those things aren't fun to me. I'd rather figure out new builds for PvP, do a little farming to make enough cash to buy mods and such, or help newb guildies out in the game.