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You want it - get it.
Its hard?? It supposed to be.
Too hard?? If you want something easier go get 15k.
15K harder still? Get Drok.
Drok still too hard? Sell your account in EBay.
Just how ARE you supposed to make money?
crimsonfilms
You want it - get it.
Its hard?? It supposed to be.
Too hard?? If you want something easier go get 15k.
15K harder still? Get Drok.
Drok still too hard? Sell your account in EBay.
Mahanaxar
Hard is ok.
But a lot harder than some months ago?
THIS is the point.
But a lot harder than some months ago?
THIS is the point.
TokranePo
I don't understand why people are complaining about the difficulty of getting the most expensive armor in the game. There is a reason why it is expensive and hard to get to. If they just wanted to make it easily available, then they should have just put it up for sale at the armor merchant at Droknar's Forge and lowered the price.
There is supposed to be difficulty that adds perceived value to rare items in the game. It is the same way with gold items. They are called "rare," which means that every character isn't meant to be running around with one. What's so special about a gold item if everyone has one and everyone can easily have enough money to simply buy one in trade if they don't already have it? Making grinding and farming easier would do a major disservice to the players because it would make all those nice items that you covet into worthless everyday items that don't mean anything. Which, ultimately, means that the game loses interest faster and A.net drops it faster.
Yes, farming is not easy for the average PVE player. I am one. I don't like PVP. I don't have a monk. I don't have a Warrior/Monk. Farming is not easy for me, and the effort involved means that I will probably never get some of the more rare items in the game. But I like them and the prospect of maybe working to get them still intrigues me. If I could toss in five hours of gaming grind and get all the best items in the game, I would think that all the best items in the game were pretty lame.
[*EDIT When I signed up to the forums I did have a lv15 Mo/N, which I did not enjoy playing. So I deleted the character. Sorry for any confusion. /attempts to remove foot from mouth]
There is supposed to be difficulty that adds perceived value to rare items in the game. It is the same way with gold items. They are called "rare," which means that every character isn't meant to be running around with one. What's so special about a gold item if everyone has one and everyone can easily have enough money to simply buy one in trade if they don't already have it? Making grinding and farming easier would do a major disservice to the players because it would make all those nice items that you covet into worthless everyday items that don't mean anything. Which, ultimately, means that the game loses interest faster and A.net drops it faster.
Yes, farming is not easy for the average PVE player. I am one. I don't like PVP. I don't have a monk. I don't have a Warrior/Monk. Farming is not easy for me, and the effort involved means that I will probably never get some of the more rare items in the game. But I like them and the prospect of maybe working to get them still intrigues me. If I could toss in five hours of gaming grind and get all the best items in the game, I would think that all the best items in the game were pretty lame.
[*EDIT When I signed up to the forums I did have a lv15 Mo/N, which I did not enjoy playing. So I deleted the character. Sorry for any confusion. /attempts to remove foot from mouth]
Garumn
You have Mo/N in profession.....
crimsonfilms
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That is my point. You had an economy where a sword with 1% higher bonus damage would cost 4 times as much. A perfect Wingblade vs 14% was like 250k vs 50k. The same thing for mods and offhand items. In my point of view I thought it was not a big deal since 1% is not going to get me killed.
ANet fixed that by creating green items and easier access to some gold items. The side effect of that is now that people are more oriented in acquiring FoW armor instead of the weapons.
You have now a spike in the price of Ectos and Shards because the increase demand for FoW.
However, if you compare the golds items vs FoW armor - those are more PRAGMATIC things, thus you have a case of fixing the economy.
With FoW armor - not really. They are supposed to be rare and difficult to acquire and they have no strategic advantage unless to distract a noob with all that bling.
There is no proof that UW/FoW drops have been nerfed. People doing their personal anecdotal stories ARE NOT PROOF.
Unless you come up with a sound methadology and results no one can claim this.
quickmonty
It's not that hard to get the gold and materials for Drok's armor, and very good weapons can be found by just playing the game. Anything else is just for looks. So .... if you want the basics it isn't that hard and if you want vanity work for it!
Do you drive a Mercedes or a Civic? Both will get you where you are going but you have to work harder for that prestige vehicle.
Do you drive a Mercedes or a Civic? Both will get you where you are going but you have to work harder for that prestige vehicle.
CHunterX
ANet will NOT drop the material cost for FoW armor. It is meant to be a sinkhole for cash to kill Farmers and eBay buyers money, so the wealth is spread more evenly (although it isn't working). A millionare can become poorer than a pre-searer in 1 hour or less, and that's exactly what they want. It keeps people coming back to the game. It's not made to even be acheived. It's for players who exploited the game in some way to look foolish. It only shows they've spent 100's of hours farming over and over alone, no skill involved. I'd personally rather not party with a FoW armor player, I doubt they remember how to call targets.
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anything less would be making it too easy.
and no i would not get FOW armor if i had the gold to pay for materials.
it is not worth it to me.
if someone GAVE me all materials to get it i would save them for something else
Lady Cream
l o l
They killed their own game with all thoses nerf updates. Of course majority of people here will say me "you noob lololol you don't need armors and weapons get 10k and get the collectors/droknar lolol". This hypocrite attitutes is boring me to be honest.
If you can't admit that old days players have a hudge advantage over new players, I can't do anything for you.
Seriously, who cares about droknar armor and collector items ? If I play PvE, I don't. I want the high priced armor, perfect gold weapons, the most expensive runes. I want them because they're in the game. In pvp, I don't care at all. My goal is to win. But in PvE, my goal is to make an optimized character. Month ago, I was able to do it, and I've done it. Now it's just impossible. What's the point playing PvE with basic stuff ?
I don't understand how arena net hides his face.
I mean, why don't they just say "anti farm update" each time they make one ? Instead of saying BS such as "improved ai, to counter the bots, bs#3 , bs#4 ...." I'm bored with this lack of beeing honest.
I'm not surprized to see people selling their account now.
Let's talk about the famous HOD sword. lol.
What was the point ? "pre nerfed item" ?
The only updates who were good were:
- spirit spam nerf (even if some spirits are totaly useless now)
- hero can cap the altar easily
Oh, and "80% of accounts have less than 20k" ...
- how to buy sup vigor ? absorbtion ? 15k armors ? weapons ? ...
- how many of this accounts are inactives ?
They killed their own game with all thoses nerf updates. Of course majority of people here will say me "you noob lololol you don't need armors and weapons get 10k and get the collectors/droknar lolol". This hypocrite attitutes is boring me to be honest.
If you can't admit that old days players have a hudge advantage over new players, I can't do anything for you.
Seriously, who cares about droknar armor and collector items ? If I play PvE, I don't. I want the high priced armor, perfect gold weapons, the most expensive runes. I want them because they're in the game. In pvp, I don't care at all. My goal is to win. But in PvE, my goal is to make an optimized character. Month ago, I was able to do it, and I've done it. Now it's just impossible. What's the point playing PvE with basic stuff ?
I don't understand how arena net hides his face.
I mean, why don't they just say "anti farm update" each time they make one ? Instead of saying BS such as "improved ai, to counter the bots, bs#3 , bs#4 ...." I'm bored with this lack of beeing honest.
I'm not surprized to see people selling their account now.
Let's talk about the famous HOD sword. lol.
What was the point ? "pre nerfed item" ?
The only updates who were good were:
- spirit spam nerf (even if some spirits are totaly useless now)
- hero can cap the altar easily
Oh, and "80% of accounts have less than 20k" ...
- how to buy sup vigor ? absorbtion ? 15k armors ? weapons ? ...
- how many of this accounts are inactives ?
Kristy D.
Alot of people are saying they can't get any money after all these "nerfs" but if you go to the right places, it isn't hard at all.
One day last week...did FOW run, UW run, SF run. Came back with 2 shards, 1 ecto, 1 Razorstone. Made 100k in 1 day!
Right now I have over 930k and most was obtained after all the nerfs. I didn't buy it on eBay, I just went out, killed stuff, and sold the drops. How hard is that? BTW, great place to farm is outside...on nvm, they will just nerf it if I say.
One day last week...did FOW run, UW run, SF run. Came back with 2 shards, 1 ecto, 1 Razorstone. Made 100k in 1 day!
Right now I have over 930k and most was obtained after all the nerfs. I didn't buy it on eBay, I just went out, killed stuff, and sold the drops. How hard is that? BTW, great place to farm is outside...on nvm, they will just nerf it if I say.
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... It's for players who exploited the game in some way to look foolish. It only shows they've spent 100's of hours farming over and over alone, no skill involved. I'd personally rather not party with a FoW armor player, I doubt they remember how to call targets.
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crimsonfilms
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I don't care if it bores you, it is still a valid answer.
BTW - 'it bores' answer is kind of nonsensical since the argument is not there to entertain you.
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15k armor is not impossible to get. There are hundreds of people walking around who got their 15k and FoW the old fashion way and AFTER the nerf.
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And don't say you are talking about PvE because the truth is most in GW is more useful in PvP than PvE and vice versa.
If you did not know by now - most town merchants are meant to be gold sinkholes. They are NOT meant to be your primary source of equipment (except armor of course).
Dyes, runes, and crafting material are better off acquired either through normal gameplay or traded with another player.
Normal gameplay allows you to unlock it for PvP - can't do that with merchant items.
Dye's and crafting materials are much cheaper if traded with other players - not to mention you can be much more creative (like shards for ectos, or wood for ingots).
Maxiemonster
Pff, Female FoW Monk armor is hidious.. 15K Judge's > FoW Armor, so no thanks, not worth the time, especially, for a crappy looking armor.
And if there's anyone with a FoW armor (actually the same with 15K..), and no Superior Vigor rune, please go kill yourself.
And getting FoW Armor is indeed, very time consuming (I'm not saying it's hards, because it's not). It's even more time consuming if you want to do it in a nice way (farming SF for green items for example), since if you buy low, sell high, you can make 100-500K each day, and that's not a joke.
And if there's anyone with a FoW armor (actually the same with 15K..), and no Superior Vigor rune, please go kill yourself.
And getting FoW Armor is indeed, very time consuming (I'm not saying it's hards, because it's not). It's even more time consuming if you want to do it in a nice way (farming SF for green items for example), since if you buy low, sell high, you can make 100-500K each day, and that's not a joke.
Zaklex
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Nope, after the last desert mission you don't get skill quests anymore and there are still about 30 standard skills left from both classes. You use up the early discount for about 20 signet of captures.
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It only shows they've spent 100's of hours farming over and over alone, no skill involved..
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I think there's skill involved because if someone who doesn't understand what is needed tried to use the same skills with the same character, they'd die. They can learn to do it. And that in itself seems to indicate that it's a learned skill.
Is everything learned in farming transferable to other parts of the game? No. But I'm convinced that learning to use the right combinations of skills has made me a better player. And if you think of the givens in farming - you must stay alive in a hostile environment and still be able to kill - well, that can come in handy in other parts of the game.
AncientPC
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Pff, Female FoW Monk armor is hidious.. 15K Judge's > FoW Armor, so no thanks, not worth the time, especially, for a crappy looking armor.
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Maxiemonster
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OMG YOU DIDN'T GET SUP VIGOR THAT'S +9HP OVER MAJOR!!!11!!!1 Maybe you'd have a point about sup absorp on warriors, but sup vigor is meh.
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Jetdoc
I think you have to be careful of the "slippery slope" when it comes to health bonuses. Think about what you could apply that too...
1. Superior Vigor versus Major Vigor - 50K difference, +10 Health
2. Perfect Fortitude Sword Pommel versus minimum Sword Pommel - 50K difference, +10 health
3. Perfect Shield Health Mod versus +20 Shield Health Mod - 50K difference, +10 health.
So, in the end, each is CRAZY higher than the others, but for that 150K you've bought yourself 30 extra health. Some may not think it justifies the cost, but to me I'd rather have that extra advantage in the game and be out some fictional cash.
1. Superior Vigor versus Major Vigor - 50K difference, +10 Health
2. Perfect Fortitude Sword Pommel versus minimum Sword Pommel - 50K difference, +10 health
3. Perfect Shield Health Mod versus +20 Shield Health Mod - 50K difference, +10 health.
So, in the end, each is CRAZY higher than the others, but for that 150K you've bought yourself 30 extra health. Some may not think it justifies the cost, but to me I'd rather have that extra advantage in the game and be out some fictional cash.
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I think it's lame people choose looks above things that are actually useful. And indeed, 9HP is nearly nothing, but it's better then nothing.
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Kristy D.
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I think it's lame people choose looks above things that are actually useful. And indeed, 9HP is nearly nothing, but it's better then nothing.
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twicky_kid
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That's true. It may seem that paying 50k extra for the 9hp you get is crazy, but I just got done a battle and when it was over, I had 1hp left! 1hp made the difference between life and death. So that extra 9hp may just save your life one day!
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i've been at 1 hp many times but i do not contribute that to my sup vigor rune. it was my monk or the foe's skill that got me at 1 hp. my sup vigor had no say so in the matter.
its vanity pure and simple. you cannot prove beauty or attraction it is all opinions. saying that it takes too long to get or its too expensive is just opinions. to this day people are still paying for the fow armor in high demand so the price must not be too much otherwise no one would bother getting it.
as in optomizing a pve character you really only need about 100k at max. the good upgrades are cheap (no sundering is not a good upgrade). fortitude is expensive but only should be used on warriors. the other classes need more armor than they do life. +5 armor upgrades are extremely cheap. greens are also cheap and save you alot of time trading.
Caged Fury
At the moment, I'm just playing the game (PvE). I'm just doing the quests and missions - I make money by just selling drops to merchants and it's enough to get by on. I don't trade with other players as most of the drops I pick up are pretty naff and no one will want them anyway. Sometimes I would like to have more gold than I actually have, but it doesn't really bother me. If I don't have the monies to buy something then I'll do without until I get enough. As for these fancy, expensive armour people are talking about...well, I'm not desperate for them. When the time comes when they can be bought, then I'll see if I can afford them or not. I just want to play the game and farming for items just to get monies doesn't really appeal to me.
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I think it's lame people choose looks above things that are actually useful. And indeed, 9HP is nearly nothing, but it's better then nothing.
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Antagonist
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Your problem is buying signets of capture, all normal skills can be bought from a trainer at Ember Light Camp, you only need the signets for Elite skills. Buy the normal skills first at the cheap price, then buy signets for Elites.
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I suspect that many players who defend ANet's changes to gold income are people who have been playing since release and have made a nice amount of money when it was still easier to get gold (even with normal playing / without farming). So they aren't affected as a new player would be by overdone things like the huge price changes to the skills which they can afford with no problem.
Tiq
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Thanks for the answer, but I honestly don't know how that is relevant for my problem. In the end I need all skills both standard and elites and the overall price of 30 k per character doesn't change. After all signets of capture are nothing more than skills in disguise.
EDIT: I suspect that many players who defend ANet's changes to gold income are people who have been playing since release and have made a nice amount of money when it was still easier to get gold (even with normal playing / without farming). So they aren't affected as a new player would be by overdone things like the huge price changes to the skills which they can afford with no problem. |
Im a new player, Ive only started about a month ago, and Im defending them
Loviatar
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Thanks for the answer, but I honestly don't know how that is relevant for my problem. In the end I need all skills both standard and elites and the overall price of 30 k per character doesn't change. After all signets of capture are nothing more than skills in disguise.
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how much gold do you think you actually need and what for?also what have you wasted money on that wasnt needed ?
also you want every skill you dont NEED every single one of them
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Thanks for the answer, but I honestly don't know how that is relevant for my problem. In the end I need all skills both standard and elites and the overall price of 30 k per character doesn't change. After all signets of capture are nothing more than skills in disguise.(Snip)
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The first skill you buy will cost 50gp, the price then increases for each subsuquent skill, even with needing to get 30 skills still it shouldn't cost anywhere near 30k. Also, your first 2 Signets of Capture are FREE, only costing a skill point. I know it only cost me less than 6k to buy all of the remaingin Ranger and Mesmer Non-elite skills for one of my characters, leaving 24k for Elites, of which 2 I already have(ok I have more, but that's an example). In theory and practice you will run out of skill points before ever running out of gold, and I never farm for my gold. I just clear out zones, ID everything(this increases the gold value) and sell to merchant, can easily make 3k an hour doing this.
asdar
They have it just right.
It's easy, too easy to get the very best armor in the world. They call it Droknar's armor. It's also very easy to get weapons that are so close to the best that the difference is negligible.
It takes a long time to get FoW? It's supposed to, it's a time sink to keep all those PvE devoted people playing until chapter 2.
Fight the machine and settle for Droknars!
It's easy, too easy to get the very best armor in the world. They call it Droknar's armor. It's also very easy to get weapons that are so close to the best that the difference is negligible.
It takes a long time to get FoW? It's supposed to, it's a time sink to keep all those PvE devoted people playing until chapter 2.
Fight the machine and settle for Droknars!
Xenrath
I wish people would stop making comparisons like Civic vs Mercedes, or diamonds being the "real thing" etc. those points are not how it is. In terms of "usefulness" or stats etc, all the armours beyond droknar, and a good number of collector/other items are pretty much the same under the hood.
It's not comparing a Civic with a Mercedes. It's comparing a Civic to a Civic with a Mercedes shell. The engine, the gears, the performance, everything inside and under the hood is identical, you just put a Merc. shell on the outside. There's a word for that in motoring, I believe the popular term is "riceboy" basically no different from a standard car just has nice bits bolted on top A very large percent of items and armours in GW are just like that. Not that I'm against it but if you're looking to save money, don't spend it on things which are just pure vanity, or get those things after you've secured good equipment for use in the game first.
Vroom Vroom!
It's not comparing a Civic with a Mercedes. It's comparing a Civic to a Civic with a Mercedes shell. The engine, the gears, the performance, everything inside and under the hood is identical, you just put a Merc. shell on the outside. There's a word for that in motoring, I believe the popular term is "riceboy" basically no different from a standard car just has nice bits bolted on top
A very large percent of items and armours in GW are just like that. Not that I'm against it but if you're looking to save money, don't spend it on things which are just pure vanity, or get those things after you've secured good equipment for use in the game first.Vroom Vroom!
Shadowspawn X
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It's not made to even be acheived. It's for players who exploited the game in some way to look foolish. It only shows they've spent 100's of hours farming over and over alone, no skill involved. I'd personally rather not party with a FoW armor player, I doubt they remember how to call targets.
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I suspect that many players who defend ANet's changes to gold income are people who have been playing since release and have made a nice amount of money when it was still easier to get gold (even with normal playing / without farming). So they aren't affected as a new player would be by overdone things like the huge price changes to the skills which they can afford with no problem.
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The game is flooded with gold, but it does take effort to get any of it. The probelm is there is a new breed of player today with an entitlement complex. They call questing grind and just want the quest rewards. I went to cap a skill in "Elona Reach" yesterday and instead of LFG all I saw was "willing to pay" and " need to be ran" spammed in local chat. These guys are paying warriors to run them through the mission using the crystal trick. Yet these very same people want FoW armor and UAS, but can't be bothered to play the game. There is no way people with this mentality will ever get anything out of this game. Yet they get their half-baked toon acsended somehow and think they are entitled to FoW armor and UAS, this is not a good trend for the community, I don't think.
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Wrong, it is achievable by honest play. To bash people as you are doing because you cant get FoW armor is ridiculous. You and the people who go out of their way to critize the armor are part of a sub-class of people who have flooded the game recently. The do nothings and want everything group. I have never exploited this game (except the soon to be nerfed book trick, hehe) and resent your rude comments. The probelm with people like yourself and other whiners is when you tell them exactly what to do to meet their goals and they dissmiss it as grind and keep crying and bashing everything and everyone.
I haven't been playing since release I started in June , not April. Gold has never been easy to get. I finished the storyline in my 1.5 droks and 32k to my name, the 1st time I got a max damage weapon was hells precipice from the lich and it didn't have a bonus mod. You are crying about things that have always been that way. There is was no golden age of prosparity in this game other than now. There is more gold available now in this game than there ever was, the FoW/UW is now well documented for any n00b to conquer, the green item market is a boon to all, chests of gold items litter the landscape and skills have come down in price and have never been so cheap! The game is flooded with gold, but it does take effort to get any of it. The probelm is there is a new breed of player today with an entitlement complex. They call questing grind and just want the quest rewards. I went to cap a skill in "Elona Reach" yesterday and instead of LFG all I saw was "willing to pay" and " need to be ran" spammed in local chat. These guys are paying warriors to run them through the mission using the crystal trick. Yet these very same people want FoW armor and UAS, but can't be bothered to play the game. There is no way people with this mentality will ever get anything out of this game. Yet they get their half-baked toon acsended somehow and think they are entitled to FoW armor and UAS, this is not a good trend for the community, I don't think. |
there was a golden age in GW. up until 2 months after lease was the golden age. i could make 100k+ per hour with ease. mainly because the merchants were screwed up and prices for anything was extremely high. the drops were not nerfed so solo farming was an endless cash cow. there is a huge difference in wealth from people that have played from release and people that started from june on.
yes this is unfair but does it matter? no it doesn't. most people from the beginning has hundreds or millions in gold and nothing to do with it. i am worried about chapter 2 if we are able to transfer our characters with the ammount of gold in the market right now. econemy would be shot to peices the first week.
CHunterX
Yup, I don't do anything in this game. I just join random PUG's and turn on my "Faction Bot" and follow around the nearest player, to make them think I'm playing. I've made 850k this way. I also just started playing in November and continually sell in the Local chat with my "Merchant Bot." Man, how did you find out my secret? You sure know everything about everyone else.
/endsarcasim
I'm sorry but its pretty much guarenteed that 80% of people exploited the game in some way to get FoW armor. My post wasn't directed towards you, stop taking it personally. In my experience of playing this game, people with FoW armor are no better, and some times worse (FoW warriors charging into mobs shouting for heals) than the average player. I'm not saying I've played with everyone ever, but I have yet to come across a skilled player in FoW armor.
/endsarcasim
I'm sorry but its pretty much guarenteed that 80% of people exploited the game in some way to get FoW armor. My post wasn't directed towards you, stop taking it personally. In my experience of playing this game, people with FoW armor are no better, and some times worse (FoW warriors charging into mobs shouting for heals) than the average player. I'm not saying I've played with everyone ever, but I have yet to come across a skilled player in FoW armor.
Teufel Eldritch
I've said it before numerous times & I will say it again. FoW armor ONLY means you have a lot of money to spend. It doesn't mean you farm, it doesn't mean you exploit, it doesn't mean you Ebay, it doesn't mean you are skilled.....it only means you had/have a lot of money.
Khadgar of Dalaran
you want to know how to make some cash, aye?
I farm with my 55-hp monk in the desert. if i get a gold item with a req of >=10 then i sell it un-ided for roughly 5k (depending on what it is). i clear desert (griffion area mostly) and pull in about 1k in gold, 500 in ''white'' drops, and anywhere from 500-1k in collector items (wings, horns, carapaces)...this is if we don't have favor or i don't see we have favor b4 leaving augury rock **easier now cause sup. monks runes have dropped alot in price**
if we do have favor:
take my trapper ranger to ToA get into a 4-6 trapper team and farm UW selling un-IDed, low req Eternals and Ghostlies for about 30k-50k.
I just now broke the 100k mark so it still takes awhile to get a lotta gold; but it's possible
i also have another way....but i'm not telling (and now i'm not cheating i just don't want the price to change :P)
*+Me: 10, Anet: 0 >I WIN!<
I farm with my 55-hp monk in the desert. if i get a gold item with a req of >=10 then i sell it un-ided for roughly 5k (depending on what it is). i clear desert (griffion area mostly) and pull in about 1k in gold, 500 in ''white'' drops, and anywhere from 500-1k in collector items (wings, horns, carapaces)...this is if we don't have favor or i don't see we have favor b4 leaving augury rock **easier now cause sup. monks runes have dropped alot in price**
if we do have favor:
take my trapper ranger to ToA get into a 4-6 trapper team and farm UW selling un-IDed, low req Eternals and Ghostlies for about 30k-50k.
I just now broke the 100k mark so it still takes awhile to get a lotta gold; but it's possible
i also have another way....but i'm not telling (and now i'm not cheating i just don't want the price to change :P)
*+Me: 10, Anet: 0 >I WIN!<
Markaedw
I think it is a bad thing, when we feel that we are at war with A-net.
Xia
what is thsi 55-hp monk thing i hear about alot?
Khadgar of Dalaran
you literally have 55/55 Health
The Fox
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Originally Posted by asdar
They have it just right.
It's easy, too easy to get the very best armor in the world. They call it Droknar's armor. It's also very easy to get weapons that are so close to the best that the difference is negligible. It takes a long time to get FoW? It's supposed to, it's a time sink to keep all those PvE devoted people playing until chapter 2. Fight the machine and settle for Droknars! |
I think gold is the downfall of this game. People get greedy because it's useful, and now we know why -> CHAPTER 2. Anyways, a game can be designed as fun without the use of gold. Sure gold is a standard among rpgs... but is it necessary?
Banebow
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Originally Posted by Xia
what is thsi 55-hp monk thing i hear about alot?
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Originally Posted by Markaedw
I think it is a bad thing, when we feel that we are at war with A-net.
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Originally Posted by Shadowspawn X
Wrong, it is achievable by honest play.
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Blu_onyx
I find Guild Wars very lacking in goodies. Even in the Underworld.
I was with a awesome team once, who were so good that we lasted hours in Underworld, just looking for loot.
Eventually everyone became so bored, they just began to leave one by one.
THERE WAS NO LOOT!. Even the phantom chest's were filled with uninsipred, boring items.
GUILD WARS NEEDS A *LOT* MORE ITEMS! i mean a LOT. I believe it to be one of the games biggest shortcomings!.
I was with a awesome team once, who were so good that we lasted hours in Underworld, just looking for loot.
Eventually everyone became so bored, they just began to leave one by one.
THERE WAS NO LOOT!. Even the phantom chest's were filled with uninsipred, boring items.
GUILD WARS NEEDS A *LOT* MORE ITEMS! i mean a LOT. I believe it to be one of the games biggest shortcomings!.